Post-Modern/Marxist distinction

[Anonymous No.20539747]

This is a nice introduction and rats out a lot of Petersonian bullshit, but who were some the (probably post-structuralist) writers that rigorously outlined this distinction? I think JP fanboys may possibly benefit from learning the distinction and this video is only a rough overview.

Any strong passages on this?

https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas

[Anonymous No.20539752]

>>20539747
>overly theatrical tranny wearing weird shit
Nah, thanks.

[Anonymous No.20539755]

>>20539752
Giver her a chance. She makes some solid points.

[Anonymous No.20539768]

>>20539755
I want to suck her big dick

[Anonymous No.20539770]

>>20539755
>her
>she
Well you baited me into replying twice. Congrats.

[Anonymous No.20539773]

>>20539747
this is a janny thread

[Anonymous No.20539775]

>>20539747
None

[Anonymous No.20539776]

This is a brief reminder that all of these threads are spam posts from the guy in the video to up view counts.
Don’t engage, just walk away.

[Anonymous No.20539780]

Don't post on this board again.

[Anonymous No.20539793]

>>20539747
I’m an adorable heckin transbian. Peterson chuds need to read booooookkkk

[Anonymous No.20539814]

She is so hot. Breaks my heart that she is a communist

[Anonymous No.20539837]

>>20539776
>>20539780
not your safe space, chuds

[Anonymous No.20539855]

[Anonymous No.20539860]

>I’m an adorable heckin transbian.

[Anonymous No.20539865]

>>20539793
wtf does this mean "one more game"

[Anonymous No.20539877]

saged and reported

[Anonymous No.20539882]

>>20539747
>This is a nice introduction and rats out a lot of Petersonian bullshit
Refuting Peterson is like refuting a Mcdonalds menu. And nothing could make it more unbareable and infuriating than this "woman" "philosopher" Contrapoints presenting it. And I hope none of our friends in the western right still take the idea of "cultural-marxism" seriously.

[Anonymous No.20539901]

>contrapoints
>peterson
bruh, what year is this?

[Anonymous No.20539959]

>>20539752
Ill pass as well. My channel is much nicer

[Anonymous No.20540025]

>>20539855
Aw sweet, thanks. Downloading it out now!

Hey, why is someone pounding on my door and whose van is that? Hold on brb, I'm gonna check this out.

[Anonymous No.20540030]

>>20539882
>Refuting Peterson is like refuting a Mcdonalds menu
McDonald's menus represent reality and are helpful.

[Anonymous No.20540031]

>>20539752
fpbp

[Anonymous No.20540054]

>>20539747
Every single commie and socialist should unironically, non post-modernly, without a hint of Marxism just neck themselves.

[Anonymous No.20540102]

>>20539747
What is it about Peterson that makes these people seethe so hard? Post modern marxists is a perfectly fine way to call people who are openly influenced by both post modernism and marxism. Same shit with people going crazy when they hear cultural Marxism. The same ACKs who will tell you Gramsci was a visionary who revolutionized Marxism by focusing it on culture will go ape shit telling you cultural Marxism is impossible because Marx was a hardcore materialist.

[Anonymous No.20540122]

>>20539747
Fredric Jameson

[Anonymous No.20540133]

It's time to start calling libtards cultural marxists again.
>b-b-but!
https://carlsbad1819.wordpress.com/2018/04/25/cultural-marxism-an-alternative-history/

[Anonymous No.20540142]

>>20540102
Now tell me: in what way
trannies showing anal sex to kids are related to capital accumulation or labor theory of value?

[Anonymous No.20540151]

>>20540142
They are all bioleninist, using group politics to increase their status because they are unable to achieve anything by their own merits.

[Anonymous No.20540175]

>>20540142
It's very simple.
First of all the LGBT side of it comes directly out of the Communist promotion of Feminism, it's only natural the liberation of oppressed groups under capitalism would expand. The racial aspect is obvious too. Coming directly out of the third worldist politics of the Cold War, with the USSR and China arming black nationalists across the world. Now the battleground is on domestic ground in the US.

[Anonymous No.20540183]

>>20540151
I'm a Peterson fan, but quoting spandrel should be a baneable offence. He's an unironic fascist. Even Keith Woods is tame compared to him. If we allow talking about people like spandrel then this board will eventually become what people assume 4chan is, and I don't think anyone wants that.

[Anonymous No.20540194]

The huffing and puffing about evil Prager U chuds "misusing" the term Cultural Marxism is just as silly as when leftists are scandalized when someone calls a black man "colored" as opposed to "of color".

Until recently it was commonly used in academia, of course the bunkertrannies on here know next to nothing about the development of theory and stick to Stalin hagiographies.
e.g. Cultural Marxism in Postwar Britain
History, the New Left, and the Origins of Cultural Studies (1997), Duke University Press
>In this intellectual history of British cultural Marxism, Dennis Dworkin explores one of the most influential bodies of contemporary thought. Tracing its development from beginnings in postwar Britain, through its various transformations in the 1960s and 1970s, to the emergence of British cultural studies at Birmingham, and up to the advent of Thatcherism, Dworkin shows this history to be one of a coherent intellectual tradition, a tradition that represents an implicit and explicit theoretical effort to resolve the crisis of the postwar British Left.
>Limited to neither a single discipline nor a particular intellectual figure, this book comprehensively views British cultural Marxism in terms of the dialogue between historians and the originators of cultural studies and in its relationship to the new left and feminist movements. From the contributions of Eric Hobsbawm, Christopher Hill, Rodney Hilton, Sheila Rowbotham, Catherine Hall, and E. P. Thompson to those of Perry Anderson, Barbara Taylor, Raymond Williams, Dick Hebdige, and Stuart Hall, Dworkin examines the debates over issues of culture and society, structure and agency, experience and ideology, and theory and practice. The rise, demise, and reorganization of journals such as The Reasoner, The New Reasoner, Universities and Left Review, New Left Review, Past and Present, are also part of the history told in this volume. In every instance, the focus of Dworkin’s attention is the intellectual work seen in its political context. Cultural Marxism in Postwar Britain captures the excitement and commitment that more than one generation of historians, literary critics, art historians, philosophers, and cultural theorists have felt about an unorthodox and critical tradition of Marxist theory.

[Anonymous No.20540196]

>>20540133
DEBOONKED
https://commonruin.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/on-the-myth-of-cultural-marxism/

[Anonymous No.20540200]

Someone explain to me why 4chan tourists always fucking think Peterson is a thing

Why do they keep saying "Petersonian"? Are they EXCLUSIVELY getting their internet experience strained through youtube video essays that are stuck in 2016

[Anonymous No.20540212]

>>20539747
>Explicitly leftist propaganda channel made by tranny
Not even a kek. Come up with more creative bait. I'm not even going to watch this but if it's the old "POSTMODERNISM AND MARXISM ARE DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY, YET YOU SAY POSTMODERN NEOMARXISTS ARE TAKING OVER THE UNIVERSITIES. CURIOUS." then lol he's even more retarded than I thought.

[Anonymous No.20540219]

>>20539793
>transbian
Real women hate these fucking invasive species faggots more than anything else on earth

[Anonymous No.20540237]

The reason why intelligent leftists (i.e. cultural marxists as opposed to reactionary stalinists) oppose the term is just simple optics. Academics were happy to use the term previously. They used it because it made sense, but when the plebs got a hold of it during the Trump election it was time to "debunk" it and rewrite history. Why? Because the term Marxism is explicitly tied in people's minds with the failed communist projects of the 20th century which most people in the west view negatively.

Picrel is an example from a book from 1982 called Philanthropy and Cultural Imperialism: The Foundations at Home and Abroad, published by Indiana University Press, describing Gramsci as a cultural marxist.

[Anonymous No.20540239]

>>20539837
Don't care, suck start a shotgun because that's your ultimate fate

[Anonymous No.20540245]

>>20540183
Clue me in because I have never heard of this guy except maybe in passing

[Anonymous No.20540249]

>>20539755
but that is exactly what he dont do. He just talks loosely about the subjects and make some jokes about it he never says anything. You say he make some solid points can you sum them up very briefly?

[Anonymous No.20540255]

>>20540151
Right wing bioleninism should be a thing

[Anonymous No.20540256]

>twitter faggots come out of the woodwork
kys tourists

[Anonymous No.20540262]

Here we can see, via Google Ngrams which tracks word usage in books, how it first gained popularity in academia in the 1980s, and came back once again in the early 00s. The return of the term, now controversial post-Trump, in recent years still doesn't reach its previous heights.

[Anonymous No.20540274]

Why do people have such a strong opposition to using "postmodern neo-Marxism" as a colloquialism for "a cohort of left-wing intellectuals drawing on both Postmodernism and Marxism?" I mean, everyone knows who the major names are here.

[Anonymous No.20540277]

>>20540274
Should say "postmodern Neo-Marxists" but you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.20540297]

>>20540255
It is. Spandrel is right that it's the useless people at the bottom of the barrel the ones who naturally get heavily involved in politics because they can't achieve anything by themselves, but when normal, competent people, get pushed out of society, like how it's happening now with white people, they will get politicized too, so they can collectively push for a more meritocratic society that would benefit them, which is exactly what happened in the Weimar republic.

[Anonymous No.20540306]

>>20540249
>she's a qt
>peterson's a jew
>.........
>cute!

[Anonymous No.20540337]

>>20539747
the fact that peterson ignores the huge contradiction that is calling someone a post-modern marxist always suprise me, how someone with a degree in humanities doesn't know such basic stuff?

[Anonymous No.20540348]

>>20540297
Whites are a broken and conquered people, there will be no white collective political action

[Anonymous No.20540374]

>>20540337
Sometimes people use the distinction Marxian/Marxist to indicate people whose thought is heavily influenced by Marxist thinking (directly or indirectly) but departs from Marx in some signal way, like rejecting his economist "materialism." You could argue that the Frankfurt School, already Adorno and Horkheimer but certainly and especially Marcuse and Habermas, were postmodern in this sense. Adorno and Horkheimer completely abandoned economistic determinism and tried to find a "continuously" radical modus vivendi for critique within bourgeois society, but Marcuse directly tried to de-couple Marxist radicalism from economism/materialism and connect it to a much broader project of "liberation," inspired by Freudian philosophy just as French postmodernism is.

Marx would have called Marcuse a lumpenproletariat agitator to be honest. And it can't be denied that Marcuse was decisively influential for the New Left, which is responsible for the mentality of most left and progressive academics today, and which happily calls itself Marxist.

The French poststructuralists made a very similar move from the Marxist radicalism of their teachers, like Merleau-Ponty and Althusser and to an extent Lefebvre, toward a "liberation" philosophy that exists within bourgeois society. Only Badiou remained Maoist and that was a LARP.

All of these people could easily be called cultural Marxist. They are Marxists that focus on culture. That is an apt description of the Frankfurt School's first generation, a shift of focus to the superstructure, and a bringing in of tools from parallel "schools of suspicion" like psychoanalysis to diagnose supposedly regressive tendencies in the superstructure (read: why did bourgeois society irrationally fail to embrace communist revolution?). If I weren't lazy I'd go look up some citations proving the point in Jay's Dialectical Imagination.

[Anonymous No.20540379]

>>20540245
A neorreactionary blogger who mostly writes about parallelisms between the modern world and the art of war, but his claim to fame are his posts about bioleninism. His use of language can be too edgy, but his main thesis is solid.
https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/
https://spandrell.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/
https://spandrell.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism
If you're lazy, here's the audio book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZvjNJxzevM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmroKlAJMsM&t=1s

[Anonymous No.20540384]

>>20540245
You really can't tell it's either some twitter blogfag talking about himself in third person to drum up interest, or one of his paypigs? Or you're samefagging this shamelessly.

>>20540372
>read my blog, my buzzword internet meme ideology i've been pushing for 7 years is going to take off as a "thing" any day now
No, you failed even in the heyday of things like this being popular

[Anonymous No.20540388]

>>20539793
Nah, you're just a fat greasy pedophile. But nice try.

[Anonymous No.20540389]

>>20540379
>as mencius moldbug noted
Never have i turned a video off so fast.

[Anonymous No.20540390]

>>20540374
Postmodernism and Marxism are opposed to each other, imbecile. Postmodernism is all about the end of the big narratives, like Marxism. YOU CANNOT BE A POSTMODERN MARXIST. Period.

[Anonymous No.20540398]

>>20540390
Thanks for your youtube comment tier reply, phonefag. Hopefully someone who can actually read and isn't just looking to downvote THE ENEMY might find my post useful.

If you had read my post you'd know I agree. I said Marx would disavow Marcuse. Doesn't mean 99% of "Marxists" today aren't reasonably well described as cultural Marxists.

[Anonymous No.20540400]

>>20540337
He doesn't ignore it, retard. He's talked about it in the past, multiple times. You can find clips of him talking about it to Rogan, the one he did with Weinstein as a co-guest. The fact that nobody ever mentions this just indicates that his critics never actually watched any of his shit, thereby validating all of the criticisms his braindead followers levied against the troons.

[Anonymous No.20540404]

>>20540348
I wouldn't count them out so easily, but even if globohomo completely defeated them, eventually the same problem would arise with the competent spics and uncle toms. People always look after increasing their status, so for now minorities will support credentialism because they are at the bottom, but once they conquer whitoids, the competent ones will start pushing for meritocracy again.

[Anonymous No.20540405]

>>20540337
If you're not trolling to le epicly own the transphobic Nazi, he's explained this many times. They are contradictory, yet *they* are the ones who continue do it. It's like if a bunch of capitalist communists suddenly seized power in society and when anyone points this out they are met with a screech of "BUT CAPITALISM AND COMMUNISM ARW CONTRADICTORY, HOW CAN THEY EXIST THIS IS BASIC STUFD LOL IDIOT"

[Anonymous No.20540410]

>>20540400
>Rogan

kek

[Anonymous No.20540416]

>>20540410
Beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.20540418]

>>20540405
>It's like if a bunch of capitalist communists suddenly seized power in society and when anyone points this out they are met with a screech of "BUT CAPITALISM AND COMMUNISM ARW CONTRADICTORY, HOW CAN THEY EXIST THIS IS BASIC STUFD LOL IDIOT"
Isn't that exactly what is happening though?

[Anonymous No.20540419]

>>20539959
>Ill pass
YWNBAW sorry

[Anonymous No.20540423]

>>20540410
Don't you have a noose to slip into? Must be hard to knot the rope with your HRT tremble.

[Anonymous No.20540432]

>>20540348
It won't come from whites as a whole, just like trying to have a "black" global uprising would make no sense since there are a million different kinds of African and they all hate eachother. Whites hate eachother a little less, but they also have no single white identity.

What will happen is that individual white countries in uniquely pressurizing situations will react in novel ways to the pressures they are facing, and while some of these might not work, others will be successful, occasionally surprisingly successful, and this will serve as a model for other countries just beginning to face similar pressures.

Imagine Rhodesia happening but in a continental European country. Then imagine two or three Rhodesias becoming friends, instead of what actually happened to Rhodesia, where "global public opinion" (neoliberal regimes) collaborated to cut them off from supply and crush them.

This is also the exact recipe that gets you WW2. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The enemy is neoliberalism, or Anglo finance, and its weapons are demographic dilution and psychological warfare.

[Anonymous No.20540435]

>>20540390
How is that contradicting what he said? Most of those academics don't earnestly believe in the inevitability of a Communist revolution. But they still maintain a nostalgic attachment to the days when it seemed like a Communist revolution was really possible, and still remain committed to some kind of emancipatory politics.

[Anonymous No.20540444]

>>20540418
Yes. Leftists deny the postmodern neomarxist cabal because lol idiot they can't exist that would be contradictory. Yet exist they do.

[Anonymous No.20540452]

>>20540423
Nah, he's right.
Mentioning Rogan on /lit/ is just sad.

[Anonymous No.20540478]

>>20540444
The only people who get upset about useful terms like postmodern neomarxist are upper middle class fags who don't understand how social movements actually work. As long as the phrase basically designates an enemy, it doesn't matter how fuzzy it is, it will have mobilizing power.

Online leftists are all sheltered coastal elites who go to Coachella (or refuse to go to Coachella but know people who do go to Coachella) who don't know what the real stakes are in society and instinctively despise their "lessers." So when they see the grubby plebs imperfectly expressing their hatred of the upper classes and their effete ivory tower theories, something Marx would have been overjoyed at and stoked the flames of as much as he could, they act perfectly bourgeois. They start going "lolll are you even educated? I'm terribly well educated you know, I went to my second choice elite university and my dad paid for it."

There is a lot of room for a new working class movement with actual teeth, because ordinary people are reaching critical levels of self-consciousness of how these pseudo-leftist upper middle class losers are dead weight. It will take the form of a national populist movement or something like Buchanan's "economic nationalism" or Francis' nationalist-socialism.

[Anonymous No.20540488]

>>20540452
>thread about Peterson
>presented by nonpassing Troon
>marxism/postmodernism distinction
>mentioning Rogan is "just sad"
I feel so sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.20540501]

>>20540488
>watching Rogan
Likewise

[Anonymous No.20540509]

>>20540444
The west is slowly becoming one big Argentina. The government is in bed with a few big corporations that have a centralized control over the whole economy and leftists are useful idiots who conspires to help them by playing both good and bad cop. On one hand, they play as rebels by telling you they are against corporations, but the problem isn't the centralization of power, but capitalism, so they push for things like higher taxes that, surprise, only fuck over small business and make these corporations even bigger. On the other hand, they openly support these corporations for being woke and will cancel any small business for not toeing the line. The most insidious leftists will even pretend to be against woke capitalism. They will tell you they are perfectly aware about how corporations use their plight to commodify them and how dehumanizing it is. But if you pay attention to their actions, they, just like any other leftist, will make sure to support all these corporations with their wallets, because "at least they aren't bigots."

[Anonymous No.20540514]

>>20540337
I like the term cultural marxism, its like calling them groomers you know you are into something when you piss all the right people off.

[Anonymous No.20540519]

>>20540452
JEEZ! They really mentioned Rogan on /lit/? God, this place is becoming even worse than /r/books and with /r/badlit dead I don't even know where to go now?

[Anonymous No.20540522]

>>20540501
Not him but Rogan is at least inoffensive background noise, it's just a dude who interviews people. I'll watch a clip here and there if the algorithm pushes it on me and it seems interesting. You're watching a literal fucking crossdressing faggot in neon colors for an hour and all he says is shit you could have heard on CNN in five minutes.

[Anonymous No.20540524]

>>20540488
imagine how much porn that dude must have watched to end up like that

[Anonymous No.20540527]

>>20540519
>how can i make it look like i fit in here? i know, i'll mention all the reddit boards i'm familiar with and talk like a queer

[Anonymous No.20540531]

>>20540519
>they
always nice to see a faggot outed

[Anonymous No.20540532]

Wow, touched a nerve with the Rogan criticism.

[Anonymous No.20540535]

>>20540522
Natalie was a PhD student. What about Rogan? Yeah. I thought as much.

[Anonymous No.20540536]

>>20539747
>tranny
Oh come one now. If you want me to watch video about Marxism then I require it to be made by sane human being.

[Anonymous No.20540539]

>>20540524
Trannies are 50% porn sick, it's true, but the other crucial 50% of the recipe for a tranny is a desire to rape cis women and get away with it. Because they've been so successful at bullying mainstream opinion into supporting them they're now starting to rape kids too.

[Anonymous No.20540545]

>>20540535
>student
Are you done shilling? We're not watching your creepy fetishist.

[Anonymous No.20540549]

>>20540535
Isn't Peterson an academic too? Who gives a fuck about academic credentials anyway? I finished my PhD three years ago. You want to watch a video I made of me playing catch with my dogs?

[Anonymous No.20540558]

>>20539747
I have already read lots of anti trans books so by this point id be more interested in reading pro trans literature. What could possibly justify this madness?what is some science or theory i can read which can help me check my privilege and learn more about the awful plight the diverse and vibrant culture of these warm body politically correct victimhood unit NPCs, this snivelling priesthood of pedophilic apparatchiks, cowardly hiding behind political correctness and victimhood in order to rape, groom abuse and indoctrinate our children, purpose engineered biopolitical clientele for pharmaceuticals, the corporate monoculture and the democratic party, i mean these most noble and progressive these most pitiful and wretched of creatures?

Any lgbt/ gay/queer theory/ transgender/ cultural marxism books you would recommend to a straight white cis male who is trying to overcome his deepseated heteronormative prejudices, and be a better ally to our politically correct friends in the corporate social engineering and propaganda/child molestation community? prejudices which cant help but flare up at the beautiful and heartwarming display of diversity and progress in pic related?

https://poptopic.com.au/tech/twitter-defends-gross-little-girls-are-kinky-tweet-by-alok-vaid-menon/

People are getting banned for calling out trans activist Alok Vaid-Menon tweet saying that “little girls are kinky” and should be sexualised

[Anonymous No.20540559]

>>20540432
It’s interesting you mention Rhodesia, because movements like you describe in Europe would amount to a “decolonization of Europe” in a way. Other races have had to deal with that, but outside of maybe the Irish, no group of whites has been on the native side of a decolonization struggle before. We’ll see if they are capable of it.

[Anonymous No.20540562]

>>20540219
are ALL of those pictures trannies? if so, some of them actually pass.

[Anonymous No.20540578]

>>20540549
peterson has a degree in psychology, contrapoint in philosophy, so a vid about philosophy by a person with a phd in philosophy has some weight, also Pterson in geenral knows next to nothing about philosophy, his lectures on Sartre and Hediegger are awful

[Anonymous No.20540589]

>>20540559
I'm betting everything on this normie meme picture I saw 8 years ago (unironically)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1720spO4yQ

[Anonymous No.20540591]

>>20540562
>some of them actually pass.
Really, I couldn't find any.
Sometimes the trannies on /b/ pass. I save the pic if they got a big dick. Lots of them do for some reason.

[Anonymous No.20540593]

>>20540558
why must it come from a book? just talk to trans people.

also, read this: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/n1x-gender-acceleration-a-blackpaper

[Anonymous No.20540606]

>>20540593
I'm always worried I'll fall in love.

[Anonymous No.20540607]

>>20540593
>just talk to trans people.
You mean, like, at a seance?

[Anonymous No.20540609]

>>20540578
The troon has a Masters, not a PhD. He isn't qualified to make contributions in his chosen field and isn't a published academic. Peterson is a Psych PhD with legit contributions in psychometrics and alcohol addiction. Stop bullshitting. The troons only claim to fame is the YouTube personality, with an audience of gullible adolescents and even uglier troons.

[Anonymous No.20540610]

>>20540591
okay when I say some, i meant one. I thought one of them was just a more butch woman. but hey some of other ones could probably pass as ugly women under the right light.

[Anonymous No.20540612]

>>20540607
>You mean, like, at a seance?
I'm pro-troon but this was good.

[Anonymous No.20540616]

>>20540578
That's not even a knock on Peterson's goofy ass. Zizek has a basic bitch understanding of philosophy and he is considered a philosopher even though he studied psychoanalysis in school like Peterson.

[Anonymous No.20540620]

>>20540616
The bar is awfully low anymore.

[Anonymous No.20540635]

>>20540606
that's more reason why you should talk to some. you might meet your soulmate.

>>20540607
that's not funny

[Anonymous No.20540643]

>>20540635
>you might meet your soulmate.
yeah trannies are looking real good in 2022, >>20540219

[Anonymous No.20540644]

>>20540151
>bioleninist
I understand the postmodern marxism thing but this term I don't get. Has Lenin ever said something that explains this?

[Anonymous No.20540655]

>>20540607
Lmao best kek I've had in a while.

[Anonymous No.20540658]

>>20540593
Abusing your god given human body like it was some sort of gross secondlife avatar that isnt even fully customizable yet

[Anonymous No.20540665]

>>20540607
You sir have won the internet.

[Anonymous No.20540668]

>>20540658
Let it happen. The longterm HRT carcinomas are win-win. They get to die for speaking their truth.

[Anonymous No.20540691]

>>20540658
Guenon talks about this somewhere in Reign of Quantity, how the modern age is characterized by an obsessive desire to blur and distort boundaries and make distinct things swirl into eachother until all that's left is a soup or aggregate blob

[Anonymous No.20540701]

>>20540691
I might actually read that despite my slight disdain for Guenon

[Anonymous No.20540706]

>>20540668
Niggas really out here blasting whoremones just so they can get breast cancer and suck dick.

[Anonymous No.20540709]

>>20540644
Its a newer term to designate people who are degraded human beings pushing their selves on the "collective consciousness" I want the same thing but for racist white dudes. Basically Incel praxis.

[Anonymous No.20540710]

>>20540183
>He's an unironic fascist
So? Also you dont decide what this board is or who gets banned. You are just another anon so lose the attitude.

[Anonymous No.20540713]

>>20540635
Tfw no jewish trans gf with high functioning autism who gets off being degraded as a retarded faggot who fell for pedophilic ZOGaganda that was anyhow meant for the goyim and takes turn calling me out fof internalized ableism and antisemitism and queerphobia and insufficient enthusiasm for the managerial therapeutic state post liberal biop>>20540635
olitics

[Anonymous No.20540724]

No need to overcomplicate this, post-modern neo-Marxist is a catchall term Peterson made up to encompass people he doesn't like
his repeated failure to define his term, or name examples, testifies this
(ranting something-something Frankfurt school, is not a informative definition, retard)

[Anonymous No.20540728]

>>20540643
You shouldn't focus on the looks. That should go for any partner you have, cis or trans or otherwise. Besides, those are bad examples anyways.

>>20540658
It's not abuse. It's really just modification. It's the same as when you get your ear pierced or get a vasectomy. Your body adapts to the changes and bounces back to function healthily. There's no harm being done from transitioning.

[Anonymous No.20540739]

[Anonymous No.20540749]

>>20540728
this you are a bigot if you are attracted to healthy members of the opposite sex instead of poorly groomed androgynous people who are like a bingo board of traits correlated with asperger's syndrome

[Anonymous No.20540765]

>>20540255
Why do you think they pretend they care about white opioid junkies

[Anonymous No.20540777]

Peterson just addressed this question

https://youtu.be/iPcILp35oU4?t=5637

If the link doesn't work it's at the 1:34 mark

[Anonymous No.20540793]

>>20540749
Well that's what I meant about them being bad examples. Some of them are poorly groomed and could pick out better clothes to pass better, but that's a small challenge that can be fixed with a conversation. You shouldn't let that get in the way of a loving relationship.

>>20540713
I'm not jewish you /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.20540809]

>>20540388
Based dubs.

[Anonymous No.20540822]

>>20540793
>only takes offense at being called a jew

[Anonymous No.20540824]

>>20539747
very ugly

[Anonymous No.20540833]

>>20540777
He didn't really address the question. He deflected. I agree with what he's saying, and he's essentially correct. But this isn't a satisfactory response.

[Anonymous No.20540835]

>>20540793
>Some of them are poorly groomed and could pick out better clothes to pass better, but that's a small challenge that can be fixed with a conversation.
I dont think conversation can fix male bone structure and other male traits anon.

[Anonymous No.20540839]

>>20540793
as an autist with poor social skills i wouldconsider getting a tranny to be my training wheels GF, dump xer after i have gained the skills needed to attract a live human female

[Anonymous No.20540844]

>>20539747
the idea comes from a book by Lyotard called The Postmodern Condition: A Report on Knowledge

[Anonymous No.20540852]

>>20540839
A guy and I actually did this, where we dated but it was with the understanding that we were training ourselves for dating women. In the end guy-guy relationships are different form guy-girl relationships so it didn’t work out as planned.

[Anonymous No.20540853]

>>20539747
What the fuck are tranny jannies doing they let eceleb threads reach the bump limit. Why is a thread about a man in a dress ranting about Jordan Peterson still up

[Anonymous No.20540856]

>>20540839
No anon, you are supposed to use fat girls as a training wheels not trannies.

[Anonymous No.20540860]

>>20540237
Gramsci is undoubtedly a marxist, and he is known for extending the cultural dimensions of marxist theory. the frankfurt school were largely disillusioned with marxism by the time many of their major works were produced. postmodern theorists are a separate group from gramsci and the frankfurt school altogether.

[Anonymous No.20540882]

>>20539747
Sorry tranny, but this is a Keith Woods board.

[Anonymous No.20540889]

>>20540839
I'm autistic and managed six exes

[Anonymous No.20540896]

>>20540835
That's why choice of clothes are so important. Regardless, it seems like you're a transphobic person, so trans women won't give you the time of day.
You just want to argue with me so you have an excuse to "le dunk the troons" or whatever.

>>20540839
You shouldn't waste a person's time like that including your own. If you dont like somebody, don't get in a relationship with them. You'd save yourself a lot of drama.

[Anonymous No.20540906]

>>20540777
>>20540833
Mostly because he's relying on Hick's shit book on postmodernism and stuff he remembers from Grad School. If he could differentiate Foucault from Derrida, I'd be very surprised. The way to address this properly is to point out the abysmal historiography Foucault relies on to buttress his épistémè nonsense. Then, discuss Althusser through Lyotard. Ignore Derrida and Lacan completely. Finish off by quoting Kołakowski.

[Anonymous No.20540909]

>>20540896
>trans women wont give you the time of day
Are you implying that most men find these things sexually appealing?

[Anonymous No.20540917]

>>20540909
damn she really hit the wall lmao

[Anonymous No.20540927]

>>20540917
Before or after raping his demented mother?

[Anonymous No.20540929]

>>20540896
I am transphobic but I was sincere in that comment. I have never seen a passing tranny. When its still photo, with make up and lightning, then maybe I could be fooled but never in-person or on video. Short of paper bag over the head, the choice of clothes has no effect.

[Anonymous No.20540931]

>>20540896
Hello, ContraPoints. Didn't you say you would stop browsing 4chan to get validation?

[Anonymous No.20540933]

>>20540917
>she

[Anonymous No.20540938]

>>20540929
The voice is always a giveaway.

[Anonymous No.20540949]

>>20540938
not being a pervert who wants to fuck crossdressing NEETs with autism stares and gayvoice vocal fray sperg monotone

[Anonymous No.20540957]

>>20540949
You dropped this >

[Anonymous No.20540965]

>>20540909
You keep posting the most unkempt trans women you can find, as if all trans women look like that. You do know there are a lot of trans women that pass, right?
Regardless, you've must've never heard of chasers. They'll have sex with any AMAB person with a wig.

>>20540929
You also don't talk to many trans women, so of course you wouldn't know anything different. People here only post the worst examples of trans women they can find. You're in a vacuum, away from them.

[Anonymous No.20541005]

>>20540245
A chinese shill

[Anonymous No.20541008]

>>20540965
Where could I possibly be to have opportunity to talk to many trannies? I form my opinion by those I encounter online and in-real life which gives me sufficient sample to determine that they dont pass 99%(1% is me being VERY generous.)

[Anonymous No.20541014]

>>20540965
>You're in a vacuum, away from them.
I want to be in that place too.

[Anonymous No.20541025]

>>20540965
I've never met a tranny that passed, and I live in a progressive area in California. Some look alright but the voice and face never look quite right.

[Anonymous No.20541047]

>>20539747
That fucking jaw line.

[Anonymous No.20541076]

>>20541025
They do not pass in person, ever. Online, in pictures and at a distance sure. But upon actually engaging with them it is immediately noticable.

[Anonymous No.20541083]

>>20541008
Admittedly, since they're so rare, it's hard to find a place with a lot of them, outside of just going to a gay bar. They're still people so they all have their own unique personalities and interests. That being said, from what I can tell, it seems like a surprising amount of them into "geeky" hobbies like gaming and programming.

>>20541025
You wouldn't know if they're trans if they pass. Besides, they can still be beautiful despite "not passing". To go all the way back to my first point, if you love them, you shouldn't focus so intensely on the looks.

[Anonymous No.20541092]

>>20541083
>Besides, they can still be beautiful despite "not passing".
Kek. Come on now thats just not true.

[Anonymous No.20541111]

>gay left-liberal retard talking about a gay right-liberal retard
Really riveting stuff

[Anonymous No.20541112]

>>20541083
>You wouldn't know if they're trans if they pass. Besides, they can still be beautiful despite "not passing". To go all the way back to my first point, if you love them, you shouldn't focus so intensely on the looks.

>Ignore biology
>Ignore attraction
>Love the person
>Watch as they slowly age in to their gender
>No pills, no clothes, no surgeries can stop it
>Gradually realize you never loved them or cared about then
>Realize too late it was a fetish that grew out of hand.

It is truly evil to lie to people and tell them this is not what happens every time.

[Anonymous No.20541122]

>>20539747
Disgusting freak

[Anonymous No.20541127]

>>20541092
But it is. If the only thing stands out to you are small "male" features like voice, shoulders, hands, or feet then you're hyperfixating on small details and not considering the person in their totality.

>>20541112
Attraction grows through time. After a while, you'll love the person for who they are and the looks dont matter. That's what keep old married couples stay together for decades.

[Anonymous No.20541133]

>>20541047
I hate Sartre as much as any red blooded man but I have to give that frog looking fuck his due. He was running through pussy on some easy mode shit.

[Anonymous No.20541138]

>mods delete bible threads and keep these satanic threads

[Anonymous No.20541146]

>>20541025
I live in la and the first tranny I saw didn't even try to pass. He had a better beard than me lol while he was wearing a dress and fuck me heels.

[Anonymous No.20541150]

>>20541138
Bible threads belong in /sffg/

[Anonymous No.20541176]

>>20541127
>Attraction grows through time
No it does not. It fades with looks, passion, heat and physical attraction fades leaving behind commiment, stability, memories and most importantly, offspring.

>>20541133
Pussy is not everything, look at the greatest they married once and began a rich family. Junger married, had a family and remained loyal and honorable. Sex is like food, only those who dont have any value it so highly. Sartre was uttely repugnant in action, appearance and thought.

[Anonymous No.20541177]

>>20541133
I will never understand that. He is probably the ugliest person I have ever seen. He looks like a slime ball that has human features randomly thrown on it. How could any woman let him touch her?

[Anonymous No.20541191]

>>20541127
Those male(no quotes here) features are very important. One could argue that for the purposes of finding a mate male and female features are the most important thing. Person in their totality will always be male or female and nothing will change that.

[Anonymous No.20541211]

>>20540379
Good post

[Anonymous No.20541216]

>>20541177
>>20541133

It was his wife, he was cucked by his wife with other men and women. It is as story as old as time. In every open relationship there is one attractive person getting sex and one unattractive who thinks they can get it but can't, yet thinks it is his choice.

[Anonymous No.20541226]

>>20541216
Forgot to add picrel.

[Anonymous No.20541241]

>>20541226
Its good that these two never had any children. Imagine the abomination that would come from them.

[Anonymous No.20541244]

>>20541216
Everyone can get sex, just not always the kind they want.

[Anonymous No.20541256]

>>20541177
Frenchwoman are easy whores. Simple as

[Anonymous No.20541264]

>>20541176
>No it does not. It fades with looks, passion, heat and physical attraction fades leaving behind commiment, stability, memories and most importantly, offspring.
Not at all. This sounds like some pessimistic cope from someone unsuccessful in relationships.

>>20541191
What makes you think they're so important?

[Anonymous No.20541278]

>>20540824
Bet you clicked on the thread because of that pic though

[Anonymous No.20541287]

>>20541226
Mao Castro definitely fucked that slut.

[Anonymous No.20541291]

>>20539755
>Giver her a chance
>her

[Anonymous No.20541308]

>>20541264
>What makes you think they're so important?
I am a human male. I am an animal. I desire the females of my species because I want them to bear my offspring. There is some rationalizations and cultural perspective added but underlying instinct remains the same. Modern humans are borderline braindamaged with their unhealthy sexuality.

[Anonymous No.20541340]

>>20539755
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ahem
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.20541350]

Jannies? Jannies please

[Anonymous No.20541414]

>>20541308
You can adopt a child like so many other couples have. There are so many child stuck in orphanages who could use the love, care, and guidance of two responsible adults. You'd doing them a massive favor and plus you wouldn't have to end a great relationship over fertility concerns.
Besides, not to sound like an anti-natalist, but it's not like we have too few people in the world. Why not help the people who are already here instead of bringing in new ones to potentially suffer from the same problems as everyone else?

[Anonymous No.20541418]

>>20539755
>her
LMAO CMON NOT EVEN YOU BELIEVE THAT

[Anonymous No.20541427]

>>20541350
Jannies make this threads

[Anonymous No.20541458]

>>20541414
Ah but that would be highly irrational. Some animals can get confused and start raising foreign young(sometimes even of other species!) but I am human so with my intellect I can direct my instincts, if they would ever get confused, towards their proper end. That is healthy, young females. Women. Also I dont really care about children of others. I dont hate them, I would even help them if the need arises but they will always be secondary to my own. So to sum it up, why would healthy human being ever compromise their natural inclinations to indulge in destructive and non-productive fantasies?

[Anonymous No.20541543]

>>20541458
>I am human so with my intellect I can direct my instincts, if they would ever get confused, towards their proper end.
Then you could can get surrogate to have your child while also maintaining a relationship with someone who can't have children. People do it all the time.
>Also I dont really care about children of others.
That's a small hurdle that you can very quickly overcome when they're under your care and can feel their love. So long as you aren't outright abusive, anyone can learn to love a child. Besides, you've never raised anyone else's child to know in the first place.

[Anonymous No.20541572]

>>20539747
Contrapoints is stupid. 'She' is not good at critical thinking and it's no wonder 'she' dropped out from getting her degree. Her last video was so dumb, it was another one of 'her' debate skits where she was arguing with a sexually repressed Christian fundamentalist. It's just so stupid, there is nothing intellectual about it, who is the video aimed for? All 'she' does is preacr to the choir and it's annoying. I do like 'her' makeup and outfits, however. 'She' should just stick to that instead of telling teenagers what to think.

[Anonymous No.20541579]

>>20540607
Lol nice

[Anonymous No.20541582]

>>20539752
This kys

>>20539755
Lmao

[Anonymous No.20541612]

>>20541543
I could also eat grass instead of meat. Crawl on my belly instead of walk on my feet. The bottom line is why would I ever force myself to do something like that? If I see apple made of wax I wont eat it because I am intelligent enough to know its not edible. I would have to actively brainwash myself to prefer raising children that are not my own over my own offspring. I would have to straight up give myself brain damage to ever think trannies are real women. Why would any sane individual go to such lengths just to obtain sub-optimal outcomes?

[Anonymous No.20541771]

>>20540423
you seem to know a lot about how hrt effects people

[Anonymous No.20541794]

>>20540593
Reading this made me discard Landian accelerationism

[Anonymous No.20541801]

>>20540593
>this is what theorycels want you to read

[Anonymous No.20541840]

>>20539747
This is a man, his name is Nick Parrot

[Anonymous No.20541877]

>>20539793
So Steve Jobs is the first step towards being a troon

[Anonymous No.20541888]

>>20541572
I honestly thought at first his channel was satire, then I realized he was serious and I was in a mix of fear and laughter that people could be that dumb while having their heads stuck up their asses.

[Anonymous No.20542061]

>>20541612
>The bottom line is why would I ever force myself to do something like that?
Because you're in a relationship with a woman you love and adore but unfortunately can't bear children.
>I would have to actively brainwash myself to prefer raising children that are not my own over my own offspring.
I already said you could get a surrogate, that way you can still can have your child not have to adopt. Btw, it's very telling that you think it would require brainwashing to do something that has been done for millenniums. You sound like you're shitty person in general, completely lacking basic human sympathy.

[Anonymous No.20542078]

>>20541801
Did you read it though? It's a short read but it's very interesting. Has a lot of good observations and explains a lot of the current beliefs around gender that we have.

[Anonymous No.20542082]

I HATE THEATER KIDS!!! I HATE THEATER KIDS!!!!!

[Anonymous No.20542110]

>>20539747
you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.20542371]

>>20540710
I know there are a lot of edgelords on this board, but the majority of anons just come to chill. We don't like identity politics nor how ridiculous PC culture has gotten, but we're still moderate leftists. I still describe myself as a classical liberal. Debating with conservatives is fun and it's important for a healthy democracy, but allowing fascist views to creep in is another matter entirely. If we let it happen then we can say goodbye to everything that makes this board good. Fascism can't coexist with an open and honest intellectual pursuit.

[Anonymous No.20542377]

>>20542371
Decent bait.

[Anonymous No.20542384]

>>20542371
>we leftists
shut the fuck up retard

[Anonymous No.20542392]

The recent news of that gay hawaiian school teacher who was caught fucking his 13 year old students and filming it to send the videos to the other gay teachers irrevocably proves that faggot are groomers. The guy had long tirades in twitter about how it was perfectly innocent to push sex education on little kids and no one was trying to groom them LMAO

[Anonymous No.20542424]

>>20542392
i don't like faggots but you think straight people don't fuck kids? LMAO

[Anonymous No.20542436]

>>20542392
I honestly feel like this case will be the last nail in the coffin and will give the right wing the complete victory in the culture war. The ok groomer thing was already incredibly effective, but now being told ok groomer while also posting the screencaps of that guy is such a hard blow. You can't defend yourself against something like that.

[Anonymous No.20542444]

>>20542424
Gay people are the black people of raping children, they do it at a rate 30-100x higher than their normal counterparts per capita

[Anonymous No.20542450]

>>20542444
I dont agree or disagree
But why is that??

[Anonymous No.20542451]

>>20542392
>>20542436
This sounds hilarious. Source?

[Anonymous No.20542459]

>>20542451
https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1537928261467983872

[Correan Collar No.20542472]

>>20540728
hey, don't listen to these assholes <3

[Correan Collar No.20542477]

>>20539747
jfc when did this go from "hey, what do yall think of this video critiquing jordan peterson" to "grrr trans people bad!!!" :/

[Anonymous No.20542486]

>>20542436
>>20542451
>>20542459
this is a fucking nothing burger. woah a faggot engaged in pederasty? is the sky also blue?

you would be surprised the kinds of thinks freud found in early 20th century Vienna. this is fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.20542495]

>>20542486
Ok, groomer

[Anonymous No.20542509]

>>20542495
>ok groomer
yes, I am a cunnyseur. you should fucking go back to >>>r/eddit.

[Anonymous No.20542525]

>>20542477
The only tolerable trannies are the ones who were born with genuine gender dysphoria. I've known a couple and they are well aware of how miserable it is being trans, but they are extremely rare, and most trannies, like hontra, are just autistic coomers who get off from being "lesbians." They deserve no sympathy at all. The only difference between hontra and someone like digibro or chris-chan is that hontra is slightly less autistic and has money, so he can fit better, but overrall he's as much of a freak. Real trannies aren't porn addicts who suddenly "realize" in their mid 20s that they were woman the whole time.

[Correan Collar No.20542531]

>>20542525
chud

[Anonymous No.20542532]

>>20542525
>but overrall he's as much of a freak
can i see some evidence of this
i'm curious, u'know

[Anonymous No.20542542]

>>20542472
Are you hitting on me?

[Anonymous No.20542609]

>>20542371
>Fascism can't coexist with an open and honest intellectual pursuit

Sure glad them nasty Nazis didnt advance rocketry, healthcare or masonry in any real way.

[Anonymous No.20542685]

>>20542392
I thought the Catholics already sorted this out for us..

[Anonymous No.20543013]

>>20540374
Very based

[Anonymous No.20543026]

>>20540728
>There's no harm being done from transitioning.
There absolutely is in "transitioning" the way we understand it. People who support transitioning often use intentionally wishy-washy language on what it actually means.

At the same time there is a conservative American hypocrisy on scapegoating the evils of transitioning while also being totally supporive of circumcision.

[Anonymous No.20543036]

>>20542436
Why didn't the gays just stay away from the goddamn children? They already had everything they wanted but then they started wanting to push it onto 6 year olds too and now people are starting to hate them.

[Anonymous No.20543039]

>>20540432
>It won't come from whites as a whole, just like trying to have a "black" global uprising would make no sense since there are a million different kinds of African and they all hate eachother. Whites hate eachother a little less, but they also have no single white identity.
>What will happen is that individual white countries in uniquely pressurizing situations will react in novel ways to the pressures they are facing, and while some of these might not work, others will be successful, occasionally surprisingly successful, and this will serve as a model for other countries just beginning to face similar pressures.

What will happen is that the anti-white rhetoric and racism from the left will make white people start creating a white identity and unite over country borders and continents and they'll decide to start cleansing their lands. The very outcome that they fear from white people is the outcome they are creating.

[Anonymous No.20543053]

>>20539747
oh my, did that child diddler not kill himself last year?

[Anonymous No.20543183]

>>20542078
Too bad the conclusions are awful.

[Anonymous No.20543279]

>>20539747
don't you have a cock to gobble? what are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.20543301]

>this thread actually has over 200 replies
this website is fucking done for holy shit

[Anonymous No.20543302]

>>20543183
was the part about the crustaceans off-putting?

[Anonymous No.20543322]

>>20542082
Holy SHIT what a brilliant post. I dont hate contrapoints because hes a lefty, or because hes a tranny. I hate him because hes a dramatic fucking theater kid. They type of faggot that cant resist filming skits every five minutes in his faggoty theater kid videos. Thank you anon, I realize who the enemy is now. Theater kids fucking faggots. I forgot how much they sucked

[Anonymous No.20543450]

>>20539747
Peterson is psy-op. This Contrapoint guy probably too.
Deep state is very talented in making believe it's always about identity, and not class. Blackrock main shareholders got richer again today. While you little boys talk about this bullshit for hours.