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[/wg/ Writing General No.20536335]

Dorothy Parker edition. Thread Question: If someone made a drinking game to play while reading your writing, what would the first three rules be?

Previous thread: >>20528795

For General Writing>The Rhetoric of Fiction, Booth
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft, Burroway
>Steering the Craft, Le Guin
>The Anatomy of Story, Truby
>How Fiction Works, Wood

YouTube Playlists for Writing
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTCv6n1whoI23GmdBZienRW0Q0nFCU_ay Robert Butler
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6HOdHEeosc

Technical Aspects of Writing
>Garner's Modern English Usage, Garner
>What Editors Do: The Art, Craft, and Business of Book Editing, Ginna
>Artful Sentences: Syntax as Style, Tufte

Books Analyzing Literature
>Poetics, Aristotle
>Hero With a Thousand Faces, Campbell
>The Art Of Dramatic Writing: Its Basis in the Creative Interpretation of Human Motives, Egri
>The Weekend Novelist, Ray

Note to anyone posting a sample of your writing for critique:
>IF YOU HAVE NOT PERFORMED A CURSORY PROOFREAD, DO NOT EXPECT TO BE TREATED KINDLY. EDIT YOUR WORK FOR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR BEFORE POSTING.

Traditional Publishing
Pros:
>you get to focus mostly on writing
>you must write a proposal to the publishers and sell your story to them
>you make 10-15% profit max, but they also eat all the risk and the costs
>self publishing is basically like running your own company
>you only need to do some simple marketing and reach out to readers
Cons:
>don’t
>you make 10-15% profit max
>self publishing you make 70%+
>they’ll still require you to do all the leg work of a self published author anyways

Self Publishing Options
>https://archiveofourown.org/
>https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/
>https://www.kobo.com/us/en/p/writinglife
>https://www.royalroad.com/
>https://www.scribblehub.com/
>https://www.wattpad.com/

Self Publishing How-To
>risky, but much more profitable
>you must pay for everything yourself
>if you do, you will spend more time on running a business than writing, but can be worth it
>https://selfpublishingwithdale.com/

Poetry
>This Craft of Verse, Borges
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual, Kooser
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry, Mason

Anime Writing (^･o･^)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4on26mKakgs
>https://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-Anime-Story

For advertising
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQygKqJVFXg

AI-generated book covers
>https://nightcafe.studio
>https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini
>https://app.wombo.art/

/wg/ Authors and Flash Fiction Pastebin
>https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ (embed)

Other forums
>https://reddit.com/r/writing
>https://writing.stackexchange.com/

[Anonymous No.20536350]

>>20536282
Ask gene wolfe

[Anonymous No.20536351]

>Intentionally makes their MC a mental potato just to explain world law.
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.20536359]

>>20536228
Ask gene Wolfe it just works

[Anonymous No.20536378]

Cute book.

[Anonymous No.20536416]

I tried to warn you guys. This fucking retard is intentionally vandalizing the threads

[Anonymous No.20536427]

>>20536420
NonVandalized Thread here - Use this instead

[Anonymous No.20536444]

>>20536416
What's vandalized about it?
Anon set the name to "/wg/ Writing General" instead of the subject, and neglected to add a newline after "For General Writing".
The other thread claims anime is a higher form of literary fiction, and has duplicate advertising YouTube videos.
Seems like they both have issues, but only minor ones.

[Anonymous No.20536450]

>>20536444
The lack of a subject is a big glaring issue and the bigger problem is that Anon is doing it intentionally. This is the third time.

[Anonymous No.20536462]

Tell me it's terrible

[Anonymous No.20536466]

>>20536450
Not enough to qualify as vandalism IMHO.
>>20532663
Ugh...Winbloze.
>>20532755
If you can't withstand criticism, you have no business being a writer.
My advice...blow off that critic. Cancel culture is dead anyway.
Dave Chappelle and Joe Rogan managed to slay it.
Oh, you wrote it for a girl? Definitely not your type. Stop thinking with your dick.

[Anonymous No.20536480]

>>20536450
This is only the second time I've created this thread. I fucked up the subject line because I'm a moron. At least this time I didn't fuck up the youtube links. I'm definitely not doing it deliberately or trying to "vandalize" anything. I'm just trying to be a good anon and failing.

[Anonymous No.20536505]

>>20533835
seethe
Tell us all about your tradpubbed works, then.
>>20534922
Just remember your incredibly low emotional IQ.

[Anonymous No.20536562]

>>20536335
I love this chick. If elegance had name, she's it.

[Anonymous No.20536575]

Two threads? Cool

[Anonymous No.20536602]

>>20536444
>What’s vandalized about it

Not enough F Gardner memes.

[Anonymous No.20536620]

>>20536602
I can't even comprehend the level of pseudness and insecurity it would take to repeatedly commit that sort of vandalism.

[Anonymous No.20536633]

Blurbs are tough. How do you capture the insanity of your book in just two paragraphs? Catch-22 did it.

[Anonymous No.20536643]

>>20536462
it's not terrible. it's an interesting concept.

>unfolding like origami paper
not really sure if this visual is working. origami paper makes me think of something being folded, not unfolded.
>unraveling vs unfolding / spaghetti strings vs origami paper
which one is it? i think you need to do a better job describing what is actually happening to Asuka's body. unfolding and unraveling are different visuals. also if it's coming apart like spaghetti that's different than coming apart like paper.

i think you need to make the sentences a bit shorter and just explain bit by bit what is actually visually happening to this girl's body because the imagery isn't making sense right now.

>one morning Asuka's skin [...] vs loud gusts had been bellowing every night
kinda confusing, just stick to what is happening during this moment. instead of talking about how winds had been bellowing every night

>probably her father had taken an axe to the door
we should "hear" the sound of the axe bashing the door, right? why would it be "probably"?

i think overall you just need to break things down into smaller sentences. and really try to paint a picture of what is going on for the reader. like break each visual down into 5 more sentences because as of now it's kinda confusing. and just try to keep it all in the moment rather than saying things like "probably an axe" or "loud gusts had been bellowing almost every night" etc.

[Anonymous No.20536838]

Which one should I use to organize my notes if I'm too cheap for one of those meme subscription programs for genreniggers like me?
Zim, Scrivener, or Obsidian?

[Anonymous No.20536858]

>>20536838
excel

[Anonymous No.20536861]

>>20536838
Google docs
Pen and paper

[Anonymous No.20536871]

>>20536861
>Google docs
What if I don't want to have my characters' pronouns forcibly changed at random?

[Anonymous No.20536877]

>>20536838
I use an outline editor called TreeLine.
It allows me to organize my notes hierarchically, making it easy to expand on ideas randomly.
It's also free and open-source.

[Anonymous No.20536895]

>>20536871
That doesn't happen. Go use libre office then.

[Anonymous No.20536909]

Wish me luck, bros.

[Anonymous No.20537797]

bump

[Anonymous No.20538805]

>>20537797
Can't you think of a more creative way to bump a thread?
This is /wg/, after all.

[Anonymous No.20540155]

I didn't have the time and I'm a pretty slow writer.
Sorry.

[Anonymous No.20540228]

>>20540155
You better be sorry, Mr Martin. Do you know how many people are waiting for the next release of your book?

A lot less since you let J.J. Abrams jew your show into Daenerys water diarrhea shit stream.

[Anonymous No.20540371]

>>20536562
I feel just the same way.

[Anonymous No.20540378]

>>20536909
Best of fortune to you!

[Anonymous No.20540553]

>tfw no matter what concept for a story i come up with, it always finds a way to require me to finally read the bible start to finish

[Anonymous No.20540577]

>>20540553
>reading the jew book about the jew god
I'll sum it up for you. The jew god is the best. the jew god's enemies are bad. The jew god's slaves should be poor. The jew god's chosen go to heaven or wherever after suffering a miserable existence here.

[Anonymous No.20540596]

>>20540577
Anon, every classic author read the Bible, don't be dumb.

[Anonymous No.20540611]

>>20540596
the number of people who've read the entirety of the bible is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of those who had no choice but to be subjected to a pastor droning every sunday. my summation of the flesh eating god of abraham is more than sufficient. be poor goy, you'll inherit the earth! a perfect religion for slaves

[Anonymous No.20541601]

Someone write a LitRPG based on F.A.T.A.L. already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.A.T.A.L..
I would, but I'm busy.

[Anonymous No.20541662]

>>20540611
And no wonder. Saklas couldn't come up with a better persona for himself, being a Kenomaic entity.

[Anonymous No.20542351]

Don't miss the thread of literary waifus, while supplies last: >>20518631

[Anonymous No.20543822]

>>20542351
Bump

[Anonymous No.20545121]

[Anonymous No.20545362]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLfrpEAfB8

>this is the most famous writer from all of 4chan

Literally how? Is he LARPing with this Flat Earth shit? Or does F Gardner actually believe in all of this? Also how can I get on this podcast for when I finish my book. I know you guys are in this thread.

[Anonymous No.20545584]

>>20536335
This op is /biz/ tier propaganda filled with disinformation, low quality resources, and trying to make it all about self-promotion. Despicable.

[Anonymous No.20545600]

>>20545584
As opposed to what, all the other /wg/ threads?
Have any high-quality resources you'd like to share?
Or are you only capable of complaining?

[Anonymous No.20545674]

>>20545362
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Mike Ma is more famous, wealthy, and successful than F Gardner.

[Anonymous No.20545792]

>>20545600
You're even worse.

[Anonymous No.20545814]

>>20545674
I don’t think MA is actually from here. Gardner’s whole shtick seems to be based around being a “4chan author.”

[Anonymous No.20545821]

>>20545674
F Gardner seems to be wealthy somehow. I’ve seen posts about how he lives in a literal mansion.

[Anonymous No.20545850]

>>20545821
His parents' mansion.
He comes across as a NEET.

[Anonymous No.20545856]

>>20545792
>no i can only complain
Big surprise there.

[Anonymous No.20545872]

>>20545856
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.20545909]

>>20545872
After all, if there's one thing 4chan doesn't have enough of, it's seething complaints.
Our cup truly doth runneth over...th.

[Anonymous No.20545917]

>>20545674
I know who F Gardner is but I don’t know the other guy.

[Anonymous No.20545927]

>>20545814
His gimmick is twists. People eat that up. That’s the reason horror writers do it. Except with Gardner the twists are bafflingly retarded. Which is kind of the appeal I guess.

[Anonymous No.20546358]

New thread
>>20546251
Let this title-free thread die.