book rec

[Anonymous No.20498470]

Hey fellas. Can anyone reccomend any esoteric/buddhist books? I want the actual good ones not the ny times bestseller bs

[Anonymous No.20498905]

MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.20499317]

>>20498470
Yes. You can read Jamgon Kongtrul Lodro Taye.

[Anonymous No.20499388]

>>20498470
I've found Thanissaro Bhikkhu's books and on the Thai Forest Tradition very useful in practical terms. They're available free at https://www.dhammatalks.org/ebook_index.html
Also "An Introduction to Zen Training" by Omori Sogen.

[Anonymous No.20499956]

>>20498470
New memebook "Self-Arising Three-fold Embodiment of Enlightenment [of Bon Great Completion Meditation]" is the one you search for

[Anonymous No.20500020]

>>20498470
drop buddai and read the Bible

[Anonymous No.20500188]

>>20500020
Jesus will not save you from samsara brother. You have already suffered for so long, and in your ignorance you will continue to suffer. You already know the name of the Buddha, so you should check out what he has said, with the intent to change your mind or to not do so, and then judge for yourself

[Anonymous No.20500216]

>>20498470

[Anonymous No.20500228]

[Anonymous No.20500336]

>>20500216
The only good recommendation in this entire thread

[Anonymous No.20500740]

>>20500188
based coompassionate anon

[Anonymous No.20500783]

I really look at the words used. What information they transmit. Like the first time a character is introduced. Trying to describe my characters in somewhat similar way, even playing with the idea how the writer i'm reading would write my characters. Stuff like that. I really think of the passages. Spend time on them. I don't just write them down and think that it in itself makes me a better writer in any way

[Anonymous No.20500792]

>>20500783
I don't know how to respond. I can't do koans.

[Anonymous No.20500854]

>>20498470
If by "esoteric" you mean Vajrayana, see Snellgrove – Indo-Tibetan Buddhism
>>20500020
Volcano demons need not apply

[Anonymous No.20500857]

>>20500228
>the religion of reason

[Anonymous No.20500963]

>the religion of reason
WOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.20501008]

>>20500857
>>20500963
Buddhist scriptures and treatises, and many of those of other Indian religions, generally attempt to argue for their positions and explain experience, consciousness, phenomena, etc. in various ways such that there is a path to liberation that comes from having a proper understanding. Since the word "rational," here no doubt used for marketing purposes to make Buddhism sound appealing to the irreligious, irks you, I can only assume you are viciously contrarian and extremely online christlarpers playing dress-up. In which case, if we compare what "your" religious founder's utterances were about, they largely consist of him exhorting his co-ethnics to recognize him as the son of their tribal god, a claim very irrelevant out of that context, while many of the claims the Buddha put forth with regard to the human experience are far more universal in scope.

[Anonymous No.20501123]

>>20501008
Calling it a "religion of reason" is still stupid. Its a religion, not just a philosophy. There are lots of legends and mystical stories about Buddha himself having magic powers, and the devas are mentioned lots of times in the pāli canon. There is a lot of non-falsifiable shit and lots of statements that are meant to be taken as they are themselves, without any arguing to lube it up to make it easier for you to be convinced. People pray to Buddha. Buddha is an icon. The whole notion of reincarnation can only be taken as an axiom, just like how the notion that God exists or God does not exist can only be taken as axiom.

Obviously if you compare Buddhism to other religions with your standard of truth coming from Buddhist ideas, you'll find that Buddhism is the most correct religion. Just like how Christians and Muslims and Zoroastrians and Hindus find that their own religions are the most correct religion, using a standard of truth that they derive from their own religion OR that they got from philosophical ideas that compliment their own religion (and that they accept for the fact that it compliments their own religion).
You cannot reason yourself into enlightenment, Buddha himself warned against trying to reason out the unreasonable, because what matters the most out of all other virtues is enlightenment. Why should enlightenment, the cessation of suffering, be strived towards, instead of acquiring knowledge? Because Buddha said so. You certainly are free to say no, you are certainly free to say that reason is better than faith, and you are free to say yes, you are free to say faith is better than reason, you are free to say anything in between (that reason brings you to the shores, and faith takes you across the waters). But nothing you say is conclusive, it is all taken as axiom in the end. So have faith that Buddha really did figure things out, that his definition and solution to suffering is correct, and act out the plan.

[Anonymous No.20501166]

>>20501008
>Buddhist scriptures and treatises, and many of those of other Indian religions, generally attempt to argue for their positions and explain experience, consciousness, phenomena, etc. in various ways
And yet it was the Greek philosophers of the classical age and the european philosophers of the age of discovery, age of enlightenment, and all the ages ever since who have actually contributed anything worthwhile to humanity, while the Indians were hard at work making houses out of cow shit and getting raped by muslims for the past 800 years

[Anonymous No.20501181]

>>20501123
I don't dispute that it is a religion with fantastical elements, but if you compare the doctrines of the world religions, it would be difficult to argue the "do what god says" religions are more rational than the ones based on analysis of phenomena through an admittedly dogmatic framework, but one which nonetheless is not backstopped entirely by faith in revelation.

[Anonymous No.20501185]

>>20500188
>suffered
I don't suffer. God created evil as a painter uses the black color, we are unable to see the full picture.

[Anonymous No.20501194]

>>20501181
>But if you compare the doctrines of the world religions...
Read again my second paragraph of
>>20501123
Where it says "Obviously..."

[Anonymous No.20501205]

>>20499956
I ordered all three volumes in hardcover. They should be arriving in a week or so.

[Anonymous No.20501219]

>>20498470

[Anonymous No.20501224]

>>20501194
From the standard of "rationalism" then, Buddhism is the most rational religion, which doesn't make it wholly rational nor less of a religion

[Anonymous No.20501232]

>>20498470
What have you read about before? What are you interested in? The tantras I'd assume because you're mentioning esoteric stuff

[Anonymous No.20501266]

>It's RATIONAL to get in the cuckBox

[Anonymous No.20501270]

>me having my special mindfulness moment

[Anonymous No.20501307]

>>20501219
See also

[Anonymous No.20501791]

>>20501266
>>20501270
>The box that killed Buddhism
Lol @Buddhacucks

[Anonymous No.20502032]

>>20501791
The first time Buddhists have ever been roasted in the history of mankind

[Anonymous No.20502156]

>>20501266
Using a set of practices that intentionally causes depersonalization but removing the framework which orients it toward the understanding of the nature of reality and spiritual enlightenment and instead just teaches employees to kill the part of their brain that tells them their job sucks is wrong, yes. Are you just trying to score points against your imaginary foes or do you actually want to have a conversation about why corporate mindfulness sucks?

[Anonymous No.20502164]

>>20502156
>he responded to the AmaZen concern troll
A
I appreciate you for busting his bubble senpai

[Anonymous No.20502223]

>>20498470
I got this one which might be of interest to you

[Anonymous No.20502294]

Is it true that Advaita Vedanta is just inconsistent Buddhism?

[Anonymous No.20502366]

>>20502294
It seems to be built around the same mystical experience with a different interpretation

[Anonymous No.20502408]

>>20502294
Thanks to the efforts of Gaudapada and Shankara, Buddhism lives rent-free in India to this day

[Anonymous No.20503746]

>>20500188
If practiced properly, Jesus' teachings are as potent as Buddha's, even more in today's world. But the thing with both teachings is that they require you to become a monk, no matter how much you try to cope.

[Anonymous No.20503894]

>>20498905
What's a good commentary on this?

[Anonymous No.20504030]

Who wrote the best commentary on Mūlamadhyamakakārikā ? (MMK) ?

Also looking forward to living like this

[Anonymous No.20504118]

>>20503746
I don't mean to be rude, but weren't Jesus teaching kind of junk? Love your neighbor is irrelevant in Globalization, not worrying about food or sustenance is junk in capitalism, and loving your enemies is junk in neoliberalism. Jesus taught ways to self-defeat yourself.

[Anonymous No.20504154]

>>20504030
Aryadeva and Chandrakirti are probably the best known Indian commentators

[Anonymous No.20504262]

>>20504030
Candrakirti's is probably the most influential in general but you should also probably read Tsongkhapa's "Ocean of Reasoning". Tsondru's "Ornament of Reason" is also on my reading list.

[Anonymous No.20504285]

>>20502294
No Advaita is its own thing and there isnt any inconsistent part about it

[Anonymous No.20504310]

>>20500792
Why not?

[Anonymous No.20504409]

>>20504154
>>20504262
Thanks will find all these