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I was in the student lounge overlooking the union courtyard, reading this book (Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss). Then these two big jocks come by and harrass me about it.
"Why are you reading this shit?" says one of the jocks. He picks up the book and then throws it across the room.
"Stop being a fucking NERD!" he shouts, and the other jock looks on and laughs. Then he grabs my shoulder. "You queer?" he shouts. "Are you a fucking faggot!"
"No," I say.
"Good!" shouts the other jock. Then they both flip me off and leave.

What the fuck, /lit/. I don't understand what happened. I'm a Freshman in college, I was hoping to meet new people and have fun. Not this weird crap.

>> No.2048741

Report them for sexual harassment. Not even joking.

>> No.2048740

Do you have the copy where Kvothe is half naked on the cover with his hair blowing in the wind? If you do, I can see why they would mistake you for being gay

>> No.2048745

>>2048741
Reporting them for harassment is the best plan of action.

>> No.2048757

>>2048745
I guess the language has changed over time. When I was in grade school and they talked to us about it, that sort of thing was still called sexual harassment.
OP, seriously though, do this, report them for harassment, these douchebags should not get away with bullshit like that. You said it yourself, this is college. People should be acting like adults and taking consequences like adults.

>> No.2048765

>>2048757

>college

>acting like adults

lolololololololol

>> No.2048780

>>2048765
I don't put all that much stock in human behavior anyhow, I just sincerely think this sort of action should have repercussions. When it doesn't, it reinforces it as acceptable.

>> No.2048784

just make sure you don't mention the book you were reading op

>> No.2048797

>>2048784
lold

>> No.2048798

>>2048784
>blaming the victim.
How edgy of you.

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>"You queer?" he shouts. "Are you a fucking faggot!"

>> No.2048803

>>2048801
It's a good thing fabulous hasn't seen this post.
You would lose one of the few people that like you.
Then again, that is your specialty.

>> No.2048809

Quentin is William Shatner.

>> No.2048985

OP goes to school in an 80's movie.

>> No.2048998

>>2048985
We should all be so lucky. Ah, Ally Sheedy, you could have been mine... your beauty will forever haunt me.

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>>2048985

>> No.2049004 [DELETED] 

hahahahahahahaha

>mfw you made that story up and aren't even trying to disguise it

>> No.2049005

>"Reading is for faggots!"

>> No.2049006

>>2049004
but is this not a board for posting literature and stories....?????? PERHAPS OP IS THE GREATEST POSTER OF ALL TIME MIND EXPLOSION

>> No.2049013

why do you guys feel the need to act so morally superior to jocks? are you railing against them because they were more popular than you in high school?

>because this story obviously isn't true

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I was in the locker room overlooking the showers, reading this playbook (Football playbook by Coach). Then these two small nerds come by and harrass me about it.
"Why are you reading this shit?" says one of the nerds. He picks up the playbook and then throws it across the room.
"Stop being a fucking JOCK!" he shouts, and the other nerd looks on and laughs. Then he grabs my shoulder. "You queer?" he shouts. "Are you a fucking faggot!"
"No," I say.
"Good!" shouts the other nerd. Then they both flip me off and leave.

>> No.2049026

>>2049013

No, it's because they call women "sluts" unironically, commit date rape, shout at strangers out of car windows, and are generally unpleasant in public. Also, most of them aren't in college to learn, just to party and be annoying.

>> No.2049032

Anyone who thinks this story is made up probably went to MIT or a small liberal arts college.

This kind of thing happens surprisingly often at state universities.

>> No.2049036

>>2049026
"The whole apparatus of football, fraternities, and fun is a means by which education is made palatable to those who have no business in it." Robert Maynard Hutchins

>> No.2049873

>>2049032 This kind of thing happens surprisingly often at state universities.

Well, that's your problem then.

>> No.2049879

Serves you right for reading such a terrible book.

>> No.2049886

>>2049021
this shouldn't have made me laugh so much

>> No.2049892

>>2049036
"Back to the book mines, slaves!" — Robert Maynard Hutchins

>> No.2049925

>>2049021

Its funny how it really can't go the other way, Frat boy jerkoffs are the only ones who act this way. Most other people are quite civil.

>> No.2049928

>>2049925
First day on 4chan?

>> No.2049940

>>2049928
I've been on chans back before lit existed.

No fucking nerdboys have the guts to act like frat boys do in real life. Thats why they vent their anger on the internet so damn much.

>> No.2049947

>>2049940
The fuck are you talking about? I'm in a fraternity(social) and I like reading.

>> No.2049954

Lrn2Columbine

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>>2049947

Reading a book doesn't make you a nerd you dumbass. Pic related

>> No.2049965

>>2049961
Just because I'm a fratboy doesn't mean I can't enjoy mystical, hedonistic books like Steppenwolf.

>> No.2049967

>>2049965
And yes, I'm aware it isn't a hard book.

>> No.2049972

>>2049965

Steppenwolf and Siddhartha are garbage-level books I would expect fratboys to fucking read. Quit trying to argue that fratboys are nerds.

I highly doubt we will ever see the day when fat neckbeards walking around GRRM in their hand are admitted into frats. They simply don't get in.

>> No.2049976

>>2049972
And what non-garbage level books do you read?

>> No.2049982

>>2049972
I also enjoy Dostoevsky, at least more than Tolstoy, think Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius were holding out on themselves, and am slowly working my way through Being and Time.

>> No.2049988

>>2049972
I sometimes read ASOIAF. I was also a soldier.
People are composed of a multitude of personalities, not just nerd or fratboy.

>> No.2049991

Stick to writing science fiction, OP.

>> No.2050000

>>2049976

Anything I say you will say sucks just to get back at me so what is the point in even telling you anything, 70% of the time I'm reading non-fiction anyway because much more can be gained from it.

>> No.2050003

I don't believe it happened either but that's not to say I haven't seen people be douchebags in college. But if someone randomly goes up to a stranger and starts acting like an ass everyone else is going to stare at them like they're retarded.

>> No.2050007

>>2050003
Surprisingly, I didn't really see any really gigantic douchebags in college. Except when people are really drunk.

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>>2050000

congratulations on your thoroughly moronic get

>> No.2050015

>>2050009

I would totally fuck you D&E

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>>2050009
He's right to an extent about Hesse....

>> No.2050026

>>2049982
>think Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius were holding out on themselves

Can you expound your thoughts on this? Provide examples, if you can. I'd honestly like to hear your take.

>> No.2050028

>>2050009
>D&E caring about GETs
Just another step in your slide to mediocrity.

>> No.2050029

>>2050026
I agree with Bertrand Russell and think that it's just deluding yourself into saying that "it's not for me" or "it wasn't that great" when you don't get something. Self-delusion and sour grapes.

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>>2050028

>> No.2050036

>>2050029
I don't get sour grapes from either Aurelius nor Epictetus. Both philosophers were about recognising what you do have control over rather than what you would like to have control over--and accepting that differentiation.

Epictetus's lamp got stolen, and he does not say, "oh, well, I didn't want it, anyway." Instead, he says, "of course it got stolen. A thief would steal such a lamp. To ensure it doesn't happen again, I'll just get a crappy lamp nobody would want to steal."

I'll have to read Bertrand Russel's views on them, because I've read both "Discourses" and "Meditations" many times through and can't think of one instance that could pass as self-delusion nor sour grapes.

>> No.2050039

>>2050029
And besides, the underlying reasoning is that we are all sharing in the gift of Zeus, intellect, and thus a community of like beings who cannot harm each other, but with no God, there really isn't a reason for the rest of the rest of it.

>> No.2050045

>>2050036
It's saying, "oh I might not get the post I desire" before attempting to gain it. It's like sour grapes even before it happens. We call that setting yourself up to fail nowadays.

>> No.2050053

>>2050045
oops, typed too fast, it's saying that "I might have to pander to the powerful, I'll be stressed out by the job" before you try for it, so you won't feel bad when you don't get it.

>> No.2050054

>>2050045
I don't think so. "I might not get the post," is assessing the situation honestly. There is a chance that you won't get the post. There is always a chance that someone more qualified (or someone who's the employer's brother, say) will obtain the post over you.

If anything, this is the opposite of self-delusion.

>> No.2050062

>>2050054
"There is, in fact, an element of sour grapes in Stoicism. We can't be happy, but we can be good; let us therefore pretend that, so long as we are good, it doesn't matter being unhappy. The doctrine is heroic, and, in a bad world, useful; but it is neither quite true nor, in a fundamental sense, quite sincere."
Bertrand Russell

>> No.2050067

And as for pain, controlled pain, fear and combination with drugs can destroy any will.

>> No.2050073

Wait are people actually like this in America? İ was sure it was a troll until I saw the posts.

captcha ourninga can

>> No.2050083

>>2050062
I really think this is a faulty reading of Stoicism. Where does Aurelius or Epictetus say one cannot be happy?

If anything, it is through accepting what is that one does attain happiness. Look at Seneca, who likened life to being a dog tied to a chariot. The more we refuse to accept the path we're drawn upon, the worse (and more painful) our lives are. It is through accepting to follow the chariot and maneuvering by what little slack we have on our leashes that we can obtain a happiness.

This is actually a lot like Camus's Sisyphus, who says yes, it's futile and ridiculous to push the same rock up a hill every day, but there can be a thrill and a happiness in chasing it back down the hill.

>> No.2050092

>>2050083
For Epictetus, it isn't so bad, but does Marcus Aurelius strike you as a happy man?

>> No.2050095

>>2050092
He sounds like some poor wretch who mutters about how "happy" he is all the time, and it just sounds so sad.

>> No.2050100

>>2050092
I think it's impossible to be happy constantly. But, it was Aurelius who said (to himself):

>Men are born for the sake of each other. So, either teach or tolerate.
(Book 8, 59.)

I do think Aurelius derived a lot of happiness from this outlook, when he could remember to have it. The thing to remember about "Meditations" is that it the whole thing is autodidactic. They were reminders by and for Aurelius, so that he could always have a certain perspective, that facilitated a rational kind of happiness. His words are soothing and not unlike pathways to "teaching" and "tolerating," from which happiness easily comes.

>> No.2050105

>>2050100
Really? His words sound snappy and frustrated rather than soothing most of the time.

>> No.2050111

>>2050105
Just consider how many times he mentions old age and wasted time in the book, and he keeps saying it over and over again.

>> No.2050116

>>2050111
Gonna sleep, but that's the feeling I had in the back of my head during Discourses, but I really couldn't shake it after Meditations.

>> No.2050130

>>2050105
If it's frustration, then it is a frustration directed at the self. Aurelius freely admits to being irascible, but he also lauds kindness, by calling it a gift and saying that the gods obtain this sort of benevolence of being "kind." And this, really, falls into the "toleration" category. Being kind, although you judge that the receptor of your kindness doesn't really deserve it.

>You can do it too. Or tell me--who is stopping you?

One gets the sense that Aurelius didn't like himself when he was irascible, but did indeed like himself in the moments where he was able to be kind and tolerant--and that was where he derived his happiness, when he could get it.

>> No.2050143

>>2050130
Last post. It's a frustration at himself that he's still not free of frustration with others, among other things.

>> No.2050150

>>2050143
Yeah! He's frustrated with himself because he knows that being frustrated with others can't possibly ever bring him happiness.

Epictetus doesn't seem to have this problem, for he readily voices frustration (calling people "idiots" and the like), but Aurelius, I would say, had a problem with it--he didn't like himself being like that.