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what comes next?

man vs ???

>> No.20485808

>>20485802
Mantle

>> No.20485809

Woman, of course

>> No.20485822

>>20485809
that was biblical

>> No.20485842

>>20485802
Man vs -isms

>> No.20485855

>>20485802
>Man vs. His nature
>Man vs. His god
>Man vs. His reality

>> No.20485865

>>20485802
Even when you think you’ve got something new, say Author Vs. Reader, in response to this “Death of the Author” thing, it’s just another example of post-modernism.

>> No.20486251

>>20485855

only worthwhile post itt

>> No.20486287

>>20485855
Isnt that just an elaborated version of Man vs Self?

>> No.20486295

man vs npc
man vs gameplay system
man vs admin

you will read the isekai and litrpg novels and you will love them

>> No.20486299
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20486299

Crocodile

>> No.20486314

>>20486287
the holistic self, the you that's larger than your conscience and your capacity to act

>> No.20486318

>>20485802

Probably Man vs. AI. Especially since the Asimov model is pretty much the exact opposite of how robots have developed in real life. The Three Laws won't save us from being genocided, because the Three Laws will never be implanted. We'll have to save our species some other way.

>> No.20486327

>>20485855
>>20486251
>>20486287
>Man vs. His nature
This is man vs. self
>Man vs. His god
This is already man vs. god
>Man vs. His reality
This is already man vs. reality

I >>20485865 am correct

>>20486295
>man vs npc
Man vs. society
>man vs gameplay system
Man vs. reality/technology
>man vs admin
Man vs. man

>> No.20486331

>>20486318
AI is man vs. technology.

>> No.20486341

Man vs censorship
Man vs trannies
Man vs the degeneracy of the modern world

>> No.20486351

We go back to classical and repeat. History is cyclical

>> No.20486367

>>20485802
time/eternity, symbol, meaning (not meaningfulness of life)

>> No.20486385

The IRS

>> No.20486428

Man at peace

>> No.20486436

>>20486428
hmmmm....

>> No.20486438

>>20485802
>God vs man

>> No.20486507

>>20486341
All just examples of man vs. society.

>> No.20486557
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20486557

>>20485802
>Postmodern

>> No.20486563

>>20485802
man vs metacomentary

>> No.20486570

Man vs Food

>> No.20486589

>>20485802
Man vs Irony

>> No.20486683

>>20486367
Good ones

>> No.20486693

Man vs. wojak

>> No.20486701

>>20485802
I guess what comes next is man stops versing altogether

>> No.20486703

>>20486563
How is that different than man v authour/reality/society?

>> No.20486719

>>20485802
Sneed vs chuck

>> No.20486760
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20486760

>>20485802

>> No.20486777

man vs the absence of man, although i suppose this can be classified as man vs reality or man vs technology

>> No.20486809

MAN vs. CHILD
MAN vs. SNEED
MAN vs. MATH
MAN vs. vs.
MAN vs.
MAN vs. SNMNY

>> No.20486827

>>20486809
can be generalized with man vs language

>> No.20486918
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20486918

>>20485802
It seems as if that was it, there is nothing new to explore in literature. At least in our times.

>> No.20486936

>>20485809
man vs nature already exists

>> No.20486957

>>20485802
>what comes next?
WOMAN VS

>> No.20487075

>>20485802
man vs no god was never settled, everything since then is a huge cope

>> No.20487232

>>20485809
>>20485802
this, it's man versus his inherent idolization of women making him compete for women all the time

>> No.20487655

>>20485802
Man. No versus, no competition, no conflict.

>> No.20487676

Man vs. Man 2: The Mannenning

>> No.20487949

Would it even be possible to make a story with no conflict?

>> No.20488032

>>20487949
Sure, bit boring, but possible.

>> No.20488049

>>20485802
Man vs. Food

>> No.20488054

>>20485842
Kek I unironically wrote a fiction piece about this. I want to submit it somewhere but I don't think any mags will take it.

>> No.20488868
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20488868

>>20485802

Man vs dog. Listen to it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKEFrVj-fnM

>> No.20488972

>>20486331
So? Man vs technology is just man vs self.

>> No.20489201

There are some issues with this chart. The most obvious one is that man v.s. technology originated on the modern era. Note the Luddites and John Henry.

>> No.20489528

>>20485802
Man vs Erection

>> No.20489561

>>20488032
I don't believe you.

>> No.20489636

>>20485842
wdym by that?

>> No.20489838

>>20485802
Man vs Reader

>> No.20490031

>>20487949
Slice of life.

>> No.20490048

>>20485802
the unknown?

>> No.20490055

>>20489201
Modernism began in the late 1800s, the same time the folktale of John Henry originated.

>> No.20490907

Man vs. Capcom

>> No.20490918

>>20485809
That’s just porn

>> No.20491333

>>20485802
All of these again but instead of vs. it's "making peace with". As in, man making peace with nature through conflict with it, resolved by lucid harmony.
To make nature, (other) man, god, society, self, god's absence, technology, and reality into something that fits with your own person, like two pieces of a puzzle; this taking the place of conformity with the status quo or "oh no there's conflict!" and then patching it over with a temporary fix.

>> No.20491396

>>20491333
You are thinking of the usage "vs' too literally. It is not the usage denoting hostile conflict between two things, but rather a resolution between two. Whether that resolution and the path there is combative, peaceful, or even dull.

>> No.20491408

>>20491396
If the resolution to a "man vs technology" story is the robot disembowelling the hero or the hero detonating a nuke in the robot's Home Base there is indeed a resolution but it's safe to say there's no harmonizing taking place.

>> No.20491427

>>20491408
Yes, but a story could easily have a person initially wary of technology eventually learn to accept it or be left in a hopeless dread of it.

>> No.20491437

>>20491427
Neither of those outcomes can be called harmony. If he conforms or lives in dread there's no harmonizing going on.

>> No.20491454

>>20491437
It is a resolution though and a new normal is established.

>> No.20491465

>>20491454
Yeah I know but that's been done to death, what comes next isn't just "resolution" in a way that's superficial, but real harmony. That's what the future is made of, and it's the future we're talking about.

>> No.20492099

>>20485802
man vs the internet
>inb4. thats technology!
no

>> No.20492243

>>20488972
that's an oversimplification, man vs self means man vs his own psychology and sense of existence, has nothing to do with technology as an external factor to his self.

>> No.20492254

>>20485802
man vs memes

>> No.20492263

>>20485802
we are still firmly stuck in postmodernity until the next change of paradigm, it would be hard to think of what's next because we would need to be living in whatever comes after postmodernism.

>> No.20492269

>>20485802
Man vs. (philosophical) Zombie

>> No.20492270

>>20492099
>inb4. thats technology!
i mean, it is, unless you can be more specific about what aspect of the internet man would be going against.

>> No.20492286

>>20485802
man vs his humanity, as technology becomes more predominant affecting even our biology, man has to decide which aspects of his humanity must he keep or leave behind. I guess it would be an inversion of man vs technology but in this a future were man embraced technology so he isn't fighting it anymore.

>> No.20492305

Y'all are trying to imagine the future of literature but just describing a bunch of science-fiction-premises. These books already exist, just stop beng pretentious and read some genre-fiction.

>> No.20492367

>>20492305
>but just describing a bunch of science-fiction-premises.
that's because science fiction is the reality we live in now, retard, of course any prediction we make is going to sound like science fiction

>> No.20492419

>>20485802
man vs niggers

>> No.20492448

>>20485802
Man vs, demonic powers
Man vs. subtle plane
Man vs. Demiurge

>> No.20492481

>>20485802
man vs simplicity
man vs fullfillment
man vs nothing

>> No.20492482

>>20485802
man vs simplicity
man vs fullfillment
man vs nothing

>> No.20492489

>>20485802
man vs. my diary

>> No.20493426

man versus sneed

>> No.20493499
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20493499

>>20493426
lost

>> No.20493520

>>20485802
Man versus that's a woman

>> No.20493534

>>20485802
Man vs. anglo
yes, I am denying humanity to "the anglo"

>> No.20493640

>>20492243
> it’s a subjective mmeuh brlhuh
AI has nothing to do with technology as an external factor to its self. Human, get thy head out thy arse.

>> No.20493673

>>20485802
Whatever it is will be written accidentally and labeled after.

>> No.20493678

>>20485809
this

>> No.20493722
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20493722

Man Vs Rationality/intelligence/

Man Vs Structure of Existence

Man Vs Information

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>> No.20493767

>>20485802
mankind extirpated itself from nature and for all intents and purposes abandoned the idea of god. currently we are in the process of isolating ourselves from society. therefore I think what comes next is man vs absence (of nature, conflict and meaning).

>> No.20493818

>>20493767
Absence is not real. You are your body as long as that is true you will act in accordance to it.

Your body seeks conflict,nature and meaning. Unless you put yourself into a robot you will still crave those things. And as long as there is a demand for them then all that is needed is an opportunity. Just a millisecond of opportunity to punch someone and gain from it and your body will active itself and lunch harder than your weak faggot self ever could.

>> No.20493823

>>20485802
The same thing in reverse

>> No.20494381

No more vs.
>verification not required

>> No.20494387

>>20486295
RDM RDM RDM

>> No.20495425

>>20493640
Did you have a stroke? Your post makes no sense, cunt.

>> No.20495483

>>20485802
cataclysm
and then return to classical
and so on and so forth, forever

>> No.20495501

>>20492448
>>20492481
or these

>> No.20495507

>>20492305
That's one of the two options reality has left for us. Pondering minority struggles or LARPing out science fiction.

>> No.20495510

>>20485802
man vs history

>> No.20495733

>>20486936
Woman exists between nature and man

>> No.20496353

Man Vs Audience

>> No.20496974

>>20492270
collective human consciousness

>> No.20497389

>>20493735
Why is he watching the Chad stack a pyramid of burgers?

>> No.20497643

incel vs chad
chud vs tranny
/pol/ vs jews
wojak posters vs frogposters

>> No.20498272

>>20485802
Trannies

>> No.20498281

>>20485802
man vs nothing

>> No.20498424

>>20485855
this. the future will be more like, the author coming up with allegories for his own experiences. using fiction to basically just write a diary. maybe even simply relating real things with names changed and giving a lot of emphasis to what goes on in a self-insert character's head in reaction to events.
the point of reading anything will be to see if you can maybe empathize with the author in any way.
right now and going forwards I think the biggest issue is atomization and a new kind of loneliness, understanding the fundamental impossibility of human connection or mutual understanding. nobody can truly feel each other.

and so you just read authors that are emotionally and experientally similar to you

>> No.20498724

>>20485802
man vs chad & stacy

>> No.20499021
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20499021

>>20485802

>> No.20499549

>>20485802
man vs time
man vs their own humanity
man as god
the only way we are getting out of our current modern / post modern loop is if humanity transcends to something we don't currently view as humanity

>> No.20499603
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20499603

>>20485809
It's in revelations people!

>> No.20499760

Man history and literature are going to become such boring and sterile subjects 700 hundred years from now, there's just so much shit being recorded and produced every year. Imagine being a 27th century history undergrad having to study the 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, and 26th centuries. Just about hellish. We're about to either transcend or go extinct very soon.

>> No.20499776

>>20485802
Author vs Man

Schizo fiction. Will be a reality soon

>> No.20500758
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20500758

The sóy zone

>> No.20502034

>>20485802
Man vs. no author??

>> No.20502044
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20502044

>>20485802
Man Vs No Self

>> No.20502051
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20502051

>>20485809
This times all the others combined.

>> No.20502056

>>20486918
Gimme the Pajeets Miayazaki and whatever tf the top right corner maitreya mama luigi google JUST is

>> No.20502077

>>20485809
You would have to borrow from any other story structure so that anyone would read it. Nothing kills communication of any sort like criticizing wamen outside /lit/

>> No.20502389
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20502389

>>20485802
>man vs ???
man vs gender

>> No.20502396

>>20502389
Why do homos all suffer from Halitosis?

>> No.20502416

>>20485802
Technology vs. Man

>> No.20502419

>>20486327
>This is man vs. self
>This is already man vs. god
>This is already man vs. reality
Oh yes very interesting. Or you could follow your line of thinking to its logical conclusion and all things are simply Man vs Mind(self).

PS: When I said interesting, I really meant it wasn't interesting at all.

>> No.20502425

Man vs. the Game

>> No.20502428

>>20500758
Your post was unexpectedly entertaining.

>> No.20502430

>>20485802
The next box is “Postinfatilism”
>Man vs Extralinear Phenomenon
>Man vs Outsiders
>Man vs Deep Minds

>> No.20503001

>>20485802
Man vs. Devil

>> No.20504040
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20504040

>>20499021
Nice, saved.

>>20502056
Here's another one.

>> No.20504562

>>20504040
I wish there was a hellboy movie set mostly in a diesel punk setting

>> No.20504742

>>20485802
Man gives up and there is no more vs

>> No.20504836

Your mom

>> No.20505533

MAN VS LITERATURE.

thats the end of the game.

>> No.20505551

>>20504742
So >>20498281?

>> No.20505568

>>20485802
I feel that metamodernism will eventually leave man behind.

>> No.20505622

>>20505568
Isn't this what postmodernism already claims to do?

>> No.20506132

>>20485802
Technology vs God

>> No.20506137

>>20485802
Man vs. BBC porn

>> No.20506142

>>20485842
Zizek?

>> No.20506161

>>20485802
Man vs. Nothing
Man vs. (Not Nothing, Man vs.)
Man (not exactaly a roundabout or back to the start, just Man, not vs. Nothing, not even vs. - Man)

>> No.20506167

>>20505533
This could destroy linguistics, descontrtuctivism, postmodernism, etc.
I liked it.

>> No.20506194

Man vs Anonymous shitposters on a CIA-funded troonyfier chinese forum

>> No.20506603

>>20505622
Yes but it cannot because postmodern writing and writers all tend to engage in navalgazing, and need a self insert/canvas to project on, Metamodernism will be a 3000 page first person epic of the entire life of an Army Ant that doesn't anthropomorhise it but literally describes its conception of pheromone signals and visual stimuli
>Eating brown plant matter, pleasure
>Cleaning breeder Ant with breeder ant pheromone, removing expired males with death pheromone
>Am covered with death pheromone, going to dead Ant pile
>No longer covered in death pheromone, returning to breeder
>Eating large block of glucose, big pleasure

>> No.20506647

>>20506603
Reminds me of Iain M Banks writing the biographical experiential world of a knife missile.

>> No.20507566

>>20502430

now this intrigues me

>> No.20507601

>>20485802
Technology vs Man

>> No.20507623

>>20485802
Man vs. fear

>> No.20507948

Conflict vs peace

>> No.20508226

>>20485802
>man vs no god
By far the most pathetic lmao

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man vs mass reply scripts

>> No.20508274

>>20508252
Lock it. Lock it now. This is the friendliest message I'm going to send, while I look for ways to get OP banned from 4channel for gross social misconduct. I imagine that "mass reply scripts" might be enough to get this anon banned, who knows how many threads across however many boards this tranny just bothered across all of 4channel.

>> No.20508352

>>20486827
Came to write this, but isn't this also covered by postmodernism?

>> No.20508387

>>20485802
>They/them vs data
>They/them vs language
>They/them vs no author
So still postmodernism I guess, just for zoomers.

>> No.20509238

>>20485802
>man vs. the need of nature/society/god

>> No.20509403

Didn't people delude themselves into believing there'd be a New Sincerity?

Man vs. Postmodernism.

>> No.20510103

>>20485802
probably metamodernism