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20481658 No.20481658 [Reply] [Original]

Please leave and never return if you agree with any of the following;

>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you think fantasy, science fiction, detective fiction, young adult fiction or horror are literature
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme are just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

This is a board about literature. You're not welcome here. Please take your plebeian garbage to /b/ or reddit, where you will find both a demographic and a general atmosphere more consistent with your tastes and your culture.

>> No.20481667

>>20481658
Shit pasta
>you read for entertainment
So good books don't entertain you? Pleb detected

>> No.20481675

*kicks OP out of the thread*
faggot

>> No.20481696

>>20481658
Is historical fiction literature?

>> No.20481955

>>20481658
>>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>>you read for entertainment
Literature has no other merit than being entertaining. If you want to to think, you read philosophy, not literature. Art only searches aesthetic worth and nothing else.

>> No.20481968

>>20481658
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
I would like to explore what justifies a work. Qualities of it? Is the artist taken into consideration? What does OP and any anon think about this

>> No.20481974

>>20481955
What makes a certain work of aesthetic worth?

>> No.20482001

What if you only read nonfiction and don't read fiction

>> No.20482193

>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
Please name a single piece of literary analysis that isn't originated in ideology

>> No.20482221

>>20481658
No

>> No.20482247

Poetry is for women and homogays

>> No.20482271

>>20481658
I’m currently shidding and farding on the toilette.

>> No.20482297

>>20481974
I know it when I see it. This is probably because I have read in sufficient breath and depth such that I have an intuitive feel for art. I can, for example, tell pretty well if a writer is talented or not. It's easy to tell if a talented writer has put in the work to develop skill alongside it. I also understand intuitively what makes commonplace, pedestrian writing by coddled and talentless careerists. It's not a difficult evaluation, but it is one for which there can be no justification because it is primarily an intuitive process. If we start getting analytical, we run into problems. Analysis and reason cannot evaluate literature except from the confines of arbitrary and consensused frameworks. This is precisely no better than is individual subjectivity, and no more reliable. I trust my gut, instead, because the arguments behind this trust are equally rigorous as those trusting the arbitrarily crystallized "guts" of others. I ultimately don't care what others think. I take glee in the ways in which my own gut differs from consensus, because at the very least, that means I have my own opinions, and my own individual take. I also hate niggers and hope you die.

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20482934

>>20482247
Hegel is a convoluted and long-winded vanity effort that was essentially an adaptation of a poet, who wrote it all in Fragments and Poems that far surpass Hegel.

Now guess which poet.

>> No.20483116

>>20481955
Philosophy is literature
Retard

>> No.20483183

>>20481658
Make me ladyboi. Whatcha gonna do about it bitch? huh HUH?

>> No.20483192

>>20481658
Wasn't Hegel a faggot that everyone hated? Seems fitting for this thread OP.