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[Anonymous No.20437728]

Art and Philosophy is evil and subversive.

[Anonymous No.20437734]

>>20437728
Once again, Plato beat you to the punch
https://youtu.be/dSypCyPX9hQ?t=51

[Anonymous No.20437890]

>>20437728
All great art in modernity is a reaction to the corruption of the world.

>In this [Beethovean] Symphony the instruments speak a language whereof the world at no previous time had any knowledge: for here, with a hitherto unknown persistence, the purely-musical Expression enchains the hearer in an inconceivably varied mesh of nuances; rouses his inmost being, to a degree unreachable by any other art; and in all its changefulness reveals an ordering principle so free and bold, that we can but deem it more forcible than any logic, yet without the laws of logic entering into it in the slightest—nay rather, the reasoning march of Thought, with its track of causes and effects, here finds no sort o foothold. So that this Symphony must positively appear to us a revelation from another world; and in truth it opens out a scheme (Zusammenhang) of the world's phenomena quite different from the ordinary logical scheme, and whereof one foremost thing is undeniable:—that it thrusts home with the most overwhelming conviction, and guides our Feeling with such a sureness that the logic-mongering Reason is completely routed and disarmed thereby.

CONT

[Anonymous No.20437895]

>>20437890
>The metaphysical necessity for the discovery of this quite new faculty of speech precisely in our times, appears to me to lie in the daily more conventional drift of modern word-languages. If we look closer at the evolutionary history of these languages, even to-day we meet in their so-called word-roots a rudiment that plainly shews us how at the first beginning the formation of the mental concept of an object ran almost completely parallel with the subjective feeling of it; and the supposition that the earliest Speech of man must have borne a great analogy with Song, might not perhaps seem quite ridiculous. Starting with a physical meaning for his words, in any case quite subjectively felt, the speech of man evolved along a more and more abstract line; so that at last there remained nothing but a conventional meaning, depriving the Feeling of any share in understanding the words, just as their syntax was made entirely dependent on rules to be acquired by learning. In necessary agreement with the moral evolution of mankind, there grew up equally in speech and manners a Convention, whose laws were no longer intelligible to natural Feeling, but were drilled in to youth by maxims comprehensible to nothing but Reflection. Now ever since the modern European languages — divided into different stocks, to boot — have followed their conventional drift with a more and more obvious tendency, Music, on the other hand, has been developing a power of expression unknown to the world before. 'Tis as though the purely-human Feeling, intensified by the pressure of a conventional civilisation, had been seeking an outlet for the operation of its own peculiar laws of speech; an outlet through which, unfettered by the laws of logical Thought, it might express itself intelligibly to itself. The uncommon popularity of Music in our times; the constantly increasing interest, spreading through every stratum of society, in the products of the deepest-meaning class of music; the ever growing eagerness to make musical training an integral part of education: all this, so manifest and undeniable in itself, at like time proves the correctness of the postulate, that Music's modern evolution has answered to a profoundly inward need of mankind's, and that, however unintelligible her tongue when judged by the laws of Logic, she must possess a more persuasive title to our comprehension than anything contained within those laws.

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[Anonymous No.20437902]

>>20437728
>evil
>subversive
a lot of ghosts in that little head of yours, frogposter

[Anonymous No.20437903]

The ages that correspond with the rise in art and philosophy are cringe, but that doesn't mean we can't appreciate great philosophers and artists

[Anonymous No.20437920]

>>20437728
are*

[Anonymous No.20437925]

>>20437920
*Art-and-Philosophy is

[Anonymous No.20437954]

>>20437902
Morality is no less a spook than the belief that art is entitled to exist..

[Anonymous No.20437975]

Stupid frogshitters still spamming the most pointless threads.

[Anonymous No.20437988]

>>20437975
>seething mouseclicker bumping stupid frogshitter
like clockwork

[Anonymous No.20437991]

>>20437988
That was a sage, retard.

[Anonymous No.20438043]

>>20437925
OK fine

[Anonymous No.20438069]

>>20437991
What's a sage?