ASOIAF thread

[Anonymous No.20429897]

Discuss your predictions and theories for the upcoming novel. Which characters do you think will get killed off? What forshadowing will come true?

[Anonymous No.20429930]

>Euron takes Tyrion's tongue
>Jaquen gets his book in Old town
>Jojenpaste confirmed, maybe gives power to reveal R+L by speaking to Lyanna's ghost?
>Danny finally goes west, maybe gets together with Faegon to set up the second dance of the dragons
>Jon resurrected after warging Ghost

[Anonymous No.20429960]

>>20429897
Sex

[Anonymous No.20430052]

>>20429897
Been a while since I had any interest in this series. Has there been any news? Latest release date estimates?

[Anonymous No.20430081]

>>20429897
Upcoming?

[Anonymous No.20430086]

>>20429897
I think GRRM will make it completely different from the show. I don't expect anything from the show to be true.

[Anonymous No.20430112]

>>20429897
>upcoming

[Anonymous No.20430116]

>>20430052
>Latest release date estimates?
kek

[Anonymous No.20430157]

>>20430052
George put a blog post out in March saying that he is still working on Winds but made 0 progress in 2021. That's the last bit of news.

[Anonymous No.20430253]

>>20430086
it pretty much started diverging right after s1 (which also wasnt 100% accurate adaptation) and when they run out of books it was completely different thing already anyway. A lot of characted was butchered, plotlines changed or abandoned and whole thing was "modernized" to appeal to soi sensibilities

[Anonymous No.20430380]

>euron is warging into the dusky woman to have hot gay sex with his brother
This is the only thing I'm looking forward to

[Anonymous No.20430548]

>>20430157
>George put a blog post out in March saying that he is still working on Winds but made 0 progress in 2021.
why are you spreading bs?
>In March 2022, Martin stated that he had made less progress in 2021 than in 2020, but emphasized that "'less' is not 'none'"

[Anonymous No.20430594]

>>20430253
I mean different end game. No Jon or bran sitting the throne. No cersei killing everyone. No pointless dorne. I want something unexpected that subverts the show. George can then feel its organic and different.... and more people will buy the books.

[Anonymous No.20430726]

>>20430548
>he had made less progress in 2021 than in 2020,
Holy shit, what does he mean by progress? How many pages a week are we talking about?

[Anonymous No.20430774]

>>20429897
i wanna see jon and that wildling bich fuck

[Anonymous No.20430792]

>>20429897
The book will never come out. I’ve been waiting half my life. Essentially half my life ago is when I read the last book shortly after it came out

[Anonymous No.20430903]

>>20430726
He writes on the back of McDonalds receipts, so fair progress given its GRRM

[Anonymous No.20431078]

>>20429897
Never Ever

[Anonymous No.20431084]

>>20430726
>How many pages a week are we talking about?
Literally 0

[Anonymous No.20431648]

>>20430594
Jon is likely Azor Ahai and will be the one to end Long Night 2.0. Cersei will probably get killed by Tyrion when he comes back to Westeros with Dany (bookTyrion is much more brutal and revenge focused than pussified show version). Dorne will switch to fAegon when he takes Kings Landing. Bran may end up on the throne but the road there will be completely different

[Anonymous No.20431653]

>>20430774
anon...she is dead
>>20430792
I read Dance in elementary school when it came out and I am finishing college know

[Anonymous No.20431675]

>>20430052
>Latest release date estimates?
Yeah it should be out by 2017, maybe 2018 at the latest

[Anonymous No.20431776]

>>20431648
>Tyrion "I'll rape Tommen" Lannister
Yes and Dinklage was far too comly for the imp. I don't even consider the show Canon.

[Anonymous No.20431785]

He will never finish it. Maybe his widow will ignore his wishes and get the unfinished draft published.

[Anonymous No.20432242]

What is his endgame?

[Anonymous No.20432319]

I think Cersei will implement Dornish rule as law to allow her rule to become stronger while also getting Casterly Rock at the same time. However, as a price for this Myercella is assassinated by Arianne.

[Anonymous No.20432349]

>>20430052
He's literally not writing it. To the point where he got tired of people asking and said "no more updates until it's finished". That was about 4 or 5 years ago, maybe longer.

[Anonymous No.20432696]

>>20432349
If he had written ~105 words a day since Dragons was published, he would have written something of the same length by now. So he is writing less than that.

[Anonymous No.20432762]

>>20432242
He has no endgame.

[Anonymous No.20432774]

>>20432349
He posted a blog in march admitting he made 0 progress on Winds in 2021, so yeah, he's not even writing it anymore lol

[Anonymous No.20432783]

>>20432774
No less is not none. But yeah never coming out :(

[Anonymous No.20432871]

>>20432242
His plan was to hold out and outlast his besiegers.

[Anonymous No.20432893]

>>20432696
I write more words shitposting on the toilet every morning after oats and coffee.

[Anonymous No.20432907]

>>20429897
I think Victarion is going to die brutally. I posted in a thread a few weeks ago about how he has a lot going for him, but honestly it's hubris. He's not going to put one over on Daenaerys even though it would be fucking cool.
Varys's days are numbered too. He's getting more brazen, killing Kevan Lannister himself. He should've stayed in the shadows.
My prediction for Dany was always that she was going to travel east to Asshai and continue right across the globe to arrive at Westeros from the west. I thought that's what the masked woman's prophecy was saying, and because Asshai seems important. Now I think Asshai will remain a mystery.
Stannis's story is going to end in tragedy but he's going fucking annihilate the Boltons and take Winterfell.
Littlefinger is doomed because he wants Sansa pussy too much, she's his blind spot. I feel like she could manipulate Harry the Heir to murder him for her, out of love.

[Anonymous No.20432947]

>>20432907
A point about circumnavigating the the world, I don't GRRM would have us believe that an army could sail around the world through unknown seas, through continents if there are any, all the way to the western shores of westeros. It would not make any sense and I don't think it's realistic to think that possible for the time period they depict in terms of sailing advancements. It's a narrow sea for a reason. She will cross it.

[Anonymous No.20432969]

>>20432947
She could go by herself with a dragon and meet her fleet/army in Westeros. I didn't think about the logsitics okay?

[Anonymous No.20432978]

>>20432969
yeah flying a dragon and fantasy stuff is one thing, I was just thinking about that kinda distance sailing that large of an army.

[Anonymous No.20432984]

What's the symbolism/foreshadow behind Tommen owning three cats? It seems like a very specific number and Gurm seems to draw much attention to them.

[Anonymous No.20433053]

>>20432969
The planet is probably much bigger than we think. Remember that one Targaryen bitch flew over Sothoryos for three whole years an couldn't reach its southern end.

That's something that drives me crazy, by the way, even on Earth you could go from pole to pole in a matter of months on a balloon, why couldn't a dragon cross a continent in three years?

[Anonymous No.20433090]

>>20429897
My prediction is that it’s not coming out at or at least any time soon. And if it does come out it won’t be worth it or it’ll be no interest.

[Anonymous No.20433457]

>>20429897
>Which characters do you think will get killed off?
The Author. Memento mori, Boomer

[Anonymous No.20433523]

>>20431785
I don't want anyone but Martin to finish. He should burn it and forbid anyone to complete it.

[Anonymous No.20433570]

>>20432907
>Stannis's story is going to end in tragedy but he's going fucking annihilate the Boltons and take Winterfell.
Stannis is going to get reeked.

[Anonymous No.20433621]

>>20432242
if he does anything I imagine it'll be fucking off back to the vale and getting tied up in the sansa plot, since that's where he was beforehand

[Anonymous No.20433627]

>>20433053
Maybe she went in circles.

[Anonymous No.20433961]

>>20432907
gurm says asshai is not going to physically appear (i.e., no characters are going to travel to it in the present) but will probably appear in a melisandre pov flashback
sailing across the world doesn't seem practical either. the planet is bigger than earth, and we just don't know if there's anything significant between eastern essos and westeros.
i wish gurm would release a full world map before he croaks but i know he won't

[Anonymous No.20434326]

>>20432907
>>20432947
people have attempted to sail west from Westeros and didnt end up in Essos. At this point we dont even know if the world is a globe or if there is some fuckery going on. In any case Daenerys has too little time and too much to do in Volantis and Free Cities to go even further east into Asshai, even though its probably really cool setting. She will likely start moving west after the battle is resolved in first few chapters

[Anonymous No.20434337]

>>20433053
>>20433627
Yeah, I get the sense the entire continent of Sothorys is cursed and haunted as fuck. Although it would be cool if it was endlessly huge that a person on a dragon could fly for three years and not find the end of it.
>>20433961
>>20434326
You're right I've accepted it. The prophecy "to go west, you must go east" clearly just refers to Dany's time in the slave cities where the point of it was to learn that her vision of equality is naive and she has to conquer and subjugate to impose her rule by force.

[Anonymous No.20434353]

Thoughts on this schizo theory?

[Anonymous No.20434373]

Nearly finished ADWD
I'm so fucking worried bros, what if TWOW never comes out?
It's just hit me, wtf am I supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.20434392]

>>20434353
Love it

[Anonymous No.20434419]

>>20429930
>Euron takes Tyrion's tongue
No.

>Jaquen gets his book in Old town
Doesn't matter.

>Jojenpaste confirmed, maybe gives power to reveal R+L by speaking to Lyanna's ghost?
Crackpot theory.

>Danny finally goes west, maybe gets together with Faegon to set up the second dance of the dragons
>Jon resurrected after warging Ghost
Duh.

>>20431776
>Tyrion "I'll rape Tommen" Lannister
He lied, because he wanted to manipulate Cersei. Until his confrontation with Tywin, Tyrion is a nasty fucker, but absolutely brazenly against harming innocents. After Tywin's privy and journey across the Narrow Sea, he really leans into "Awr raw imma monster" persona - but it's blatantly obvious that it is a mask for his crumbled and traumatized state of being.

>>20432907
>but honestly it's hubris
If he had hubris, he wouldn't've knelt before Euron. He doesn't even respect himself - he only respects the Old Way and being a part of something greater in general. He'll die, but not in "fucked himself up" way.

>Varys's days are numbered too. He's getting more brazen, killing Kevan Lannister himself. He should've stayed in the shadows.
You don't know if he hadn't killed people himself previously.

>Littlefinger is doomed because he wants Sansa pussy too much, she's his blind spot.
>Stannis's story is going to end in tragedy but he's going fucking annihilate the Boltons and take Winterfell.
Correct.

[Anonymous No.20434470]

>>20434419
>If he had hubris, he wouldn't've knelt before Euron.
I take your point but I was thinking specifically of his plan to take Daenaerys as a salt wife. That's shooting for the stars and he doesn't really know what he's getting himself into. I hope he does it though.

[Anonymous No.20434477]

I don't like the jojenpaste theory
I don't think you can mix blood and a paste like that

[Anonymous No.20434489]

On his blog he talks about how he wrote asoiaf to subvert the "happily ever after" trope. Winds of winter, then, should end with his happily ever after, and a dream of spring will be about watching it crumble, with many parallels to the first book in the series.

Would be funny if it ended on the happily ever after and then he never wrote the final book, sabotaging his original intent with the series. Of course I hope that doesn't happen, but it would still be funny.

[Anonymous No.20434490]

>>20432984
It means that the whole book seven will be about Jon, Sansa and Dany having a threesome.

[Anonymous No.20434498]

>>20434373
It will come out, just in 10 years time after George is dead and will most likely be written by Sanderson

[Anonymous No.20434500]

>>20434489
He also wrote on his blog in March that he made 0 progress on the book last year, so chances are it will never be released

[Anonymous No.20434502]

>>20434490
The Hound's quest to rape every woman of noble birth in Westeros. Will anyone be able to stop him?

[Anonymous No.20434516]

>>20434470
>I take your point but I was thinking specifically of his plan to take Daenaerys as a salt wife.
He also had a plan to be elected king at the kingsmoot. When it didn't seem to work out he just shrugged and bent the knee.

Victarion is a rough and stubborn man, but he's absolutely not a proud or ambitious one.

[Anonymous No.20434521]

>>20434500
Yeah, sounds like something he would write, "I made 0 progress last year." ???

[Anonymous No.20434579]

>>20434477
Nothing about Children of the Forest and greenseers so far has ever suggested blood sacrifice as the foundation of a greenseer's power. They "sing the song of earth". They are among the few supernatural entities that are specifically not tied to eating babies or human sacrifice in the Westeros folklore. Unlike Maggy, the Ghost of High Heart doesn't need to drink blood in order to have her visions. Meera and Jojen swear their fealty to Bran by earth, water, bronze, iron, ice and fire, in that order - ever by blood. The Three-Eyed Crow pushes Bran to FLY not to EAT or sacrifice. In general, it's the First Men who brought bronze and blood, Andals steel and blood, and Targs - fire and blood to Westeros.

Jojen knows that the path they are taking will eventually kill him, ad that his death is something that Bran has to accept and work through if he's to be the Winged Wolf, but I don't see how it cab ever work out through "lol you gotta eat 'im", beyond grasping at the shadow like "SE SEE HE ATE THE ELK SEE PALE JOJEN IN A TRUNK IS LIKE PASTE JOJEN IN A BOWL SEE".

If anything, Brynden and Children feeding Bran Jojenpaste without him knowing only devaluates the sacrifice.

>>20434489
>On his blog he talks about how he wrote asoiaf to subvert the "happily ever after" trope.
His subversion of "happily ever after" is not "horror ever after" - it's "nothing is ever truly over".

[Anonymous No.20434583]

>>20434579
*never by blood.