Good writers in obscurity

[Anonymous No.20384772]

Your favorite writer never mentioned on /lit/

[Anonymous No.20384784]

>>20384772
Luigi Pirandello, not obscure but doesn't get mentioned too much around here

[Anonymous No.20384816]

>>20384784
not if you are italian, fucker s'got a nobel prize. Then again, so do alot of uninteresting minor writers

[Anonymous No.20384822]

>>20384772
Fuckn. Booba.

[Anonymous No.20384823]

>>20384772
Nikolai Gogol

[Anonymous No.20384824]

>>20384772
Gustav Meyrink. Well known for a novel which is imo his worst

[Anonymous No.20384829]

>>20384772
Man I wish I had this at home, a book that stays open like that, that would be great :)

[Anonymous No.20384841]

>>20384772
Book booba

[Anonymous No.20384926]

>>20384784
>>20384816
>>20384824
I hadn't heard of him before now.

[Anonymouṡ No.20384932]

>>20384926
That book makes no sense. The title printed on the back cover and nothing on the front?

[Anonymous No.20384946]

>>20384932
I think it might be a blank notebook that she's writing in. I can't think of any other reason for her to be holding a pen.

[Anonymous No.20384951]

>>20384816
Similar thing for me, Elias Canetti got a nobel prize but the only times he is being brought up on /lit/ is by me in German lit threads.

[Anonymous No.20384954]

>>20384823
come on now, he’s immensely popular and influential

[Anonymous No.20384960]

>>20384772
Denis Johnson

[Anonymous No.20384970]

I am my own favorite author.

[Anonymous No.20384975]

>>20384772
>>20384926
Coomers are subhumans with no impulse control and burned out dopamine receptors. You are imperceptible to what good writing is and it doubtful that this thread amount to anything (your fate too). Funny how when butterfly retard janny was gone to the insane asylum for the past few months no porn threads now they're kept up. Everyone who contributed to this thread is part of the problem. Cope, seethe and sage.

[Anonymous No.20385002]

>>20384772
picrel, I am pretty much the only one who mentions it. It is nice to see the ladies getting posted again, feels like home.

[Anonymous No.20385019]

>>20384772
Jack Vance. On an unrelated note, what nationality do you think that girl in the picture is?

[Anonymous No.20385020]

What's her name

[Anonymous No.20385053]

[Anonymous No.20385059]

>>20385053
Get a new keyboard.

[Anonymous No.20385061]

>>20384772
>Your favorite writer never mentioned on /lit/
Me

[Anonymous No.20385079]

>>20385061
post an except and some eye candy.

[Anonymous No.20385103]

I like goons like Bloy and Powys, but even they get mentioned here every once in a while. One author that I’ve never seen mentioned once on /lit/ on the 5+ years I’ve been here (unfortunately) is William Keepers Maxwell. He is definitely known, and his career spans the 1930s to the 80s, but I think the type of writing he does is pretty anathema to /lit/, and his subject matter does not make for every easy reading like a Steinbeck. But if you know him, you know.

[Anonymous No.20385105]

>>20384772
Alain Robbe-Grillet

[Anonymous No.20385106]

>>20384772
Urs Alleman

[Anonymous No.20385149]

>>20384824
what's the best then?

[Anonymous No.20385313]

>>20384975
Why so mad tho?

[Anonymous No.20385326]

I am the only Websterchad on this board.

[Anonymous No.20385331]

>>20384970
You are my favorite writer too
I love breaking into your apartment and reading your unfinished manuscripts

[Anonymous No.20385334]

>>20384970
I am my own favourite author aswell, but OP was specifically talking about those that aren't mentioned on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.20385345]

she gets mentioned very occasionally, but only by me

[Anonymous No.20385349]

>>20384772
Hubert Crackenthorpe, a naturalist who wrote a book I love called Vignettes. If you know the song lost rivers of london by coil, you know him.

[Anonymous No.20385379]

>>20384772
>Your favorite writer never mentioned on /lit/
I've seen my favorite author, tied with Nabokov, spoken about here by anyone but me I think once ever, and I don't think I've ever gotten a single reply on any post I've made mentioning him or his work.

[Anonymous No.20385387]

I've seen Dunsany mentioned on /lit/ once or twice. Funnily enough, I saw him mentioned much more frequently on /tg/.

[Anonymous No.20385407]

>>20384784
Here we're forced to read him in middle school and highschool. I liked him alot when I was 14

[Anonymous No.20385453]

>>20385379
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

[Anonymous No.20385657]

>>20384772
Simone Weil

[Anonymous No.20385671]

>>20384772
Booba

[Anonymous No.20385686]

>>20384926
Imagine thinking she doesn't deserve rape. I'll never understand simp.s

[Anonymous No.20385699]

>>20384975
dude boobs rock

[Anonymous No.20385717]

>>20385002
This one never resonated with me.

[Anonymous No.20385728]

>>20384975
Were you expecting something different from /lit/?

[Anonymous No.20385750]

>>20385379
>Mark Twain of the East River
I'm interested, tell me more

[Anonymous No.20385780]

>>20385002
>>20385053
dapped

[Anonymous No.20385796]

John Dolan, anyone?

[Anonymous No.20385801]

tarjei vesaas

>>20384784
based
why are italian authors (outside of dante/eco) rarely mentioned? calvino, manzoni are two that i love

[Anonymous No.20385823]

Three Americans who are due some serious reconsideration are Alexander Theroux, Paul West and Stanley Elkin. They’re nearly forgotten.

[Anonymous No.20385830]

>>20384772
Uh I don't see Eduard Von Hartmann mentioned a lot

[Anonymous No.20385838]

>>20384772
Me

[Anonymous No.20385850]

Miguel Ángel Asturias.

[Anonymous No.20385926]

Antonio di Benedetto

[Anonymous No.20386054]

>>20385750
>>Mark Twain of the East River
>I'm interested, tell me more
>East River
Nersesian is a NYC guy who set most of his work in New York, and not as a defacto sort-of "write what you know" thing but wholly and unreservedly as a love letter to its eras in time, streets, and everything to do with New York but even more so the stories that such a place can create in so many and varied people.
>Mark Twain
The Fuck-Up is like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn if Huck was a normal young 20s guy who was almost by fate by condemned to making the wrong choices and even having the consequences of other people's bad decisions befall him going through a truly tragic and terrible, though sometimes morbidly funny, Odyssey in the wild and colorful NYC of the late 1980s.
Nersesian's use of humor and cruelty are akin to Twain in that they're so balanced as to create palatable tales out of what is really some gnarly shit.

[Anonymous No.20386071]

>>20384772
Tor Ulven, although I’m not sure how well his prose survives translation

[Anonymous No.20386147]

>>20384772
Ivo Andric

[Anonymous No.20386175]

>>20385728
Yes because when butterfly was in the nuthouse the mods deleted this shit when I reported it. Now that janniefly unflags the reports so the bad images remain up.

[Anonymous No.20386201]

>>20386175
Yeah no shit even the jannies look down on snitch bitches. Keep crying fag.

[Anonymous No.20386202]

>>20386147
based

[Anonymous No.20386231]

Musil. Fair enough The Man Without Qualities gets mentioned from time to time but his other books and short stories don't get mentioned

[Anonymous No.20386234]

Coetzee

[Anonymous No.20386246]

>>20386231
Check the archive bud

[Anonymous No.20386268]

Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky. I've mentioned him a handful of times but never seen anybody else do so. This is from a comic somebody adapted his Baron Munchausen story into.
I shilled Bruno Schulz for so long that I've started seeing other people organically bring him up, which I love.

[Anonymous No.20386282]

>>20386268
> Bruno Schulz
Unfortunately for you, faggot, people have been reading Schulz well before your entry-level taste started reading books. Let me guess, you are going to take credit for people reading Gombrowicz next? Retard.

[Anonymous No.20386344]

>>20385801
vesaas is top tier
i rec people the ice palace from time to time, the birds is pretty great too

[Anonymous No.20386400]

>>20386268
>Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky
Lol you are a basic NYRB bitch. He's not obscure at all.

[Anonymous No.20386406]

>>20386054
ok thats waaaay to woke for me
i won't be wasting my time thanks for tthe heads up

[Anonymous No.20386412]

>>20386175
please tell me the trannyfly doesn't post here anymore

[Anonymous No.20386433]

>>20385019
He's my favourite author too, I see him mentioned occasionally in /sffg/ but not nearly enough, in that general or elsewhere. Especially considering how many authors he has influenced that get mentioned constantly like Gene Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.20386454]

>>20384772
José Saramago. I mean he is Nobel prize laureate and all that, but I never see him mentioned here. One of my favorites for sure. I started reading him this year for the first time and I’m amazed of his writing. I’m also surprised how funny he is.

[Anonymous No.20386466]

Bruce Wagner, Robert Stone

[Anonymous No.20386477]

>>20386412
It [trannyfly] returned about 5 days ago after a hiatus of 3 months.

[Anonymous No.20386511]

>>20384975
>You are imperceptible to what good writing is
Based post but cmon, ESL.

[Anonymous No.20386530]

>>20385326
>Fellow Webster lover is vain and duplicitous
Can confirm, it's all him.

[Anonymous No.20386541]

>>20384772
Evola

[Anonymous No.20386684]

Wladimir Tendrjakow and Hermann Ungar.

[Anonymous No.20386691]

>>20386684
Yawn

[Anonymous No.20386695]

>>20384926
You think she would want to go out with me?

[Anonymous No.20386709]

>>20386695
No shes already going out with me
I have pictures but no you can't have them

[Anonymous No.20386934]

>>20386406
>ok thats waaaay to woke for me
>to
>woke
>to woke
There's a lot happening here and all of it is retarded.

[Anonymous No.20387008]

>>20386054
sounds interesting, will check him out. thanks anon. I've seen The Fuck-Up around in bookstores.

[Anonymous No.20387039]

Titu Maiorescu

[Anonymous No.20387040]

>>20384772
Georges Ribemont-Dessaignes
Carl Einstein
Pierre Albert-Birot

[Anonymous No.20387171]

>>20384772
Anthony Powell

[Anonymous No.20387228]

>>20384772
Toni Morrison

[Anonymous No.20387231]

>>20387228
Beloved gets mentioned pretty often, I think

[Anonymous No.20387399]

>>20384824
Der Golem arises occasionally on board.

[Anonymous No.20387768]

>>20386282
>>20386400
The question was for authors /lit/ never mentions. Obviously anybody writing a century ago that's still published isn't some hidden gem nobody on earth is aware of, you retard.

[Anonymous No.20387782]

wolfgang hilbig. pretty much every time he's been mentioned it was by me. sad, because he's fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.20387787]

>>20384954
extremely rare to see him discussed here though

[Anonymous No.20387806]

>>20387768
You are genuinely retarded and that’s not why you got called out for mentioning Schulz, you mouthbreathing mong

[Anonymous No.20387892]

>>20387782

will check out, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.20387967]

>>20385717
It is not really a book for this place, it relies on the readers personal life experience and most here are not old enough to have had that life experience, for them the book will be an interesting experiment in narrative structure at best.
>>20385801
Calvino is fairly common here, we just never have threads on him and he just comes up in general conversation. Anything Oulipo or related has been difficult to have threads on for a few years now, the whole trad bullshit would shit up the threads because cope.

[Anonymous No.20388050]

>>20384772

Elizabeth Bowen did write some comfy shit.

[Anonymous No.20388127]

>>20384970
I see you mentioned on lit all the time. Even this very post for example.

[Anonymous No.20388161]

>>20386344
>someone else has read the ice palace
i’m about to cry, ty anon

[Anonymous No.20388500]

>>20384975
100

[Anonymous No.20388560]

>>20385728
Yea because lit was once one of the few clean boards until psuedointellectuals like yourself who dont read but shitpost came and started posting porn.

Go back to /fit/ /adv/, /co/ /a/ or whatever blue board filled with degenerate nonsense.

[Anonymous No.20388564]

>>20384926
Kek Harry Potter. Every other poster is more retarded than me for bitching about something else.

[Anonymous No.20388584]

Robert Ingersoll

[Anonymous No.20388843]

>>20388560
>few clean boards
lol. Delusional. I used to get all my porn through /lit/.

[Anonymous No.20388844]

>>20384772
Magnus Vinding. He writes about effective altruism and utilitarianism.

[Anonymous No.20389227]

Has anyone else ever read any Gerard Reve? The Evenings was one of the comfiest books I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.20389344]

>>20384772
just look at them tiddies

[Anonymous No.20389474]

>>20384926
>hairy stomach

disgusting, i wouldnt touch this wench with a 10 foot pole

[Anonymous No.20389622]

William Morris
He has such an archaic, wholesome aesthetic in his poetry. These qualities make him challenging, considering how browbeaten we all are with postmodernism, indeterminacy, deliberately kinky, obscure, strange, dark, and depraved works. But his poetry is definitely worth reading if you want to hear beautiful tales of old kings and heroes, that don't stand for anything but the vision they give to your imagination, with a style and philosophy totally alien to the modern world...

from his poem Sigurd the Volsung:
Yea, and thy deeds shalt thou know, and great shall thy gladness be;
As a picture all of gold thy life-days shalt thou see,
And know that thou too wert a God to abide through the hurry and haste;
A God in the golden hall, a God on the rain-swept waste,
A God in the battle triumphant, a God on the heap of the slain:[Pg 26]
And thine hope shall arise and blossom, and thy love shall be quickened again:
And then shalt thou see before thee the face of all earthly ill;
Thou shalt drink of the cup of awakening that thine hand hath holpen to fill;
By the side of the sons of Odin shalt thou fashion a tale to be told
In the hall of the happy Baldur: nor there shall the tale grow old
Of the days before the changing, e'en those that over us pass.

[Anonymous No.20389624]

Patrick Hamilton

He had a talent for capturing the mindset of a lonely alcoholic man that many here would appreciate.

[Anonymous No.20389682]

So many good answers, writers i've never heard of before

[Anonymous No.20389723]

>>20384926
What does it feel like to suck on big titties?

[Anonymous No.20389728]

>>20389682
She looks Russian or at least Eastern European

[Anonymous No.20390145]

>>20384772
Ian Banks

[Anonymous No.20390260]

A.E. waite and W.b. yeats. weird never seeing these lads considering how popular evola is, but then again i guess they dont indulge in childish racism and jordan peterson-esque whining about the modern world like Evola does.

[Anonymous No.20390276]

>>20390260
Most Theosophy and Golden Dawn members believed in distinct root races that should be kept distinct. This tradition continued well into the 20th century with Dion Fortune decrying the mixture of esoteric traditions because they are inextricable from their ethnic basis. Yeats was sympathetic to fascism, somewhat notoriously (for modern whiners like you anyway), and mentored Ezra Pound. Pic related for how that went.

[Anonymous No.20390308]

>>20389624
yes
the 20,000 Streets Under the Sky trilogy

[Anonymous No.20390315]

>>20384772
Keats, also poetry in general feels overshadowed by philosophy on this board
Most over-mentioned author is Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.20390353]

>>20384772
>your favorite writer never mentioned on /lit/
Alexander Pope. I've only ever seen him mentioned in Iliad threads for his translation though it's usually me that mentions him

[Anonymous No.20390381]

>>20390260
>don't indulge in childish racism
Literally every white male on planet earth before 1945 was racist as fuck and didn't apologize for it.

[Anonymous No.20390383]

>>20390381
LMAO white people are so stupid

[Anonymous No.20390393]

>>20390276
>Fascism
Fascism is not all bad, but Evola's racism is just embarassing. Some of his works, like his foreword to the Protocols and the second part of Revolt against the Modern World show he not only believes in a theory of race, but has a paranoid obsession with race. The Italian fascists never really took him seriously, and the idea that he is a fascist is based on a crude definition of fascism that ignores the Italian regime's ideological inflences. (if you want to learn more about this i recommend the book Mussolini's Intellectuals by A. James Gregor, especially the chapter about Evola). Evola's tendency to slip into angsty tirades about how much everything sucks is really unfortunate. His works contain an amazing and insightful synthesis of occult traditions, but he's more well known for his politics, which is the least interesting part of his work.

>yeats
eats was sympathetic to certain aspects of Italian fascism like its nostalgia, its romanticism, its hero-worship, its respect for and cultivation of the arts,and its call for cultural renewal and rejuvination, but it's misleading to present him as anywhere near a committed Fascist like Pound. The focus of his life and work is largely non-political, and there is no anti-semitism or racial speculation in his works. He may have believed in some kind of racial theory, but you couldn't tell by reading his books. He did give one speech in parliament expressing admiration for Mussolini, but Yeats was generally an ineffectual and minor politician,and his speech was before Fascist Italy became a dictatorship anyway. Yeats' works (including his essays) are always misty and suggestive, and they don't really give assent to any particular philosophical position, more provie you with symbols to construct a mystic quest in your own imagination. I realise Yeats work has a lot of resonances though and id be curious to hear another perspective on it.

The pound quote is stupid because the Italian Fascists didn't even discriminate against the Jews.(Mussolini even had a Jewish mistress). Also Yeats never really mentored pound, as you'd probably know if you were actually interested in these authors, instead of just in their wikipedia pages and the quotes that come up when you search their names on google images.

>Dion Fortune
literally who

>Most Theosophy and Golden Dawn members believed in distinct root races that should be kept distinct.
Most fo them likely believed in distinct human types, but they were mostly also not really political people. i dont think any of the big golden dawn members really cared about ethnic purity at all. Yeats and Waite both worked closely on artistic projects with black women.

[Anonymous No.20390445]

>>20390393
>thoughtful response to a person that over-generalizes for the sake of argument
I applaud your effort, but I do question your logic.

[Anonymous No.20390455]

>>20390381
Racemixing tho.

[Anonymous No.20390475]

>>20390445
i was mostly writing just to get my thoughts on paper, but it would be nice if someone wants to talk about yeats' works and their connection to fascism.
I reject the iddea that Yeats work is pregnant with fascism or yeats is a fellow-traveler of fascism or anything like that. The 'fascist' elements of his thought are elements that the Fascists also share with a whole tradition of art and philosophy that goes back at least as far as the late 1700s. If Yeats is a Fascist so are coleridge, blake, shelley, even someone like michelangelo probably.

Another author i wish came up more often here is Kathleen Raine. She's an essential read for death-worshippers.

[Anonymous No.20390534]

>>20389227
>one of the big three

[Anonymous No.20390585]

Angelicism01 and Honor Levy.

[Anonymous No.20390678]

>>20390260
>W.b. yeats
Lol what. How the fuck is Yeats obscure?

[Anonymous No.20390695]

>>20386282
> Bruno Schulz
I can't find the pic, but Schulz was on this famous Exit-core chart that is at least 10 years old.
https://www.listchallenges.com/exit-level-literature

[Anonymous No.20390751]

>>20390678
No one talks about his major work.
https://www.yeatsvision.com/Geometry.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEHvteniIc

[Anonymous No.20390769]

[Anonymous No.20390791]

>>20390393
Evola was no more racist than anybody else in his time, combined with any other serious modern occultist. His Synthesis of the Doctrine of Race was designed to reconcile Nazi racism, which he always criticized, with the more general "ethnic health" practices of the Italian Fascists.

Many (not all) of the Nazis were vulgar Spencerian biologistic racialists, which is a retarded extreme, and Evola's view is both basically correct and a necessary corrective to biologistic excesses. But it's equally retarded to try to split hairs about "not caring about race" in the opposite direction. Every normal, mentally and spiritually healthy human being for probably a thousand years (at the very least, since the 16th century) has had a conception of "ethnic purity" in Evola's sense. Anybody with half a brain has an intuitive feeling for the "purity" of anything - a group, a people, a nation, an esoteric order, anything. As long as conceptions of human groups have existed, conceptions of their integrity, solidarity, and health have necessarily existed, and varying discourses have necessarily then existed regarding influxes of foreignness, whether demographic, phenotypical, cultural, linguistic, etc.

>"Yeats was sympathetic to the entire volkisch and neo-romantic anti-bourgeois weltanschauung like all fascist fellow travellers were, and explicitly declared his admiration for fascism, but he WASN'T a fascist!"
Yeah, this is an old trick of postmodern dandies who want to save their favorite poet or intellectual by depoliticizing him. It usually involves hair-splitting over distinctions like yours between the "committed" fascist and the mere fascist dabbler. The same argument has played out over Benn, Cioran, Eliade, Dumézil, Heidegger, de Man, Jünger, etc. This is now less remembered but the same argument was had over Nietzsche and Hegel in the '50s. Nietzsche especially had to be "rehabilitated" before scholarly interest in him revived. I recommend reading Gooding-Williams' Zarathustra's Dionysian Modernism, Breuer's Ästhetischer Fundamentalismus, Griffin's Modernism and Fascism. These will introduce you to the old and by now classic question of "why did so many anti-bourgeois artists and intellectuals support fascism?" There's also a good essay on why artists tended to admire and support fascism in Mosse, The Fascist Century.

>Yeats never really mentored pound
I recommend reading Yeats' autobiographical writings and Kenner's The Pound Era. You will have to clear some space in your head first since most of it is taken up by your contrarian obsession with finding ways to be "antiracist" (a meaningless term) without also being "woke" and therefore bourgeois.

>literally who
A major occultist of the 20th century. You should know her if you know the Golden Dawn.

>Most fo them likely believed in distinct human types, but they were mostly also not really political
More hair-splitting casuistry, like "committed" fascists vs. fascist dabblers.

[Anonymous No.20390802]

>>20390393
I forgot to mention you should put some effort into understanding Pound's dislike of usury. Your non sequitur about Jews (another obsession, I'm guessing) shows you don't know much about his actual views.

It can be fun to read old issues of The New Age to get a sense of how these people actually thought, rather than summaries on blogs and the introductions to Penguin books.

[Anonymous No.20390917]

>>20386147
I got "The Days of the Consuls" in my waiting-pile.

[Anonymous No.20391026]

Stefan Zweig, Martin Walser

[Anonymous No.20391047]

>>20384772
Your mom

[Anonymous No.20391168]

>>20390585
purely for incellectuals

[Anonymous No.20391274]

>>20390791
>committed fascists vs fellow-travellers
The idea of fellow travellers of fascism is too broad... too many artists whose works are basically not political end up getting lumped in with fascists. It's not hair-splitting to distinguissh between Pound, who was a prolific propagandist in favour of Fascist parties and had a decent knowledge of the details of their ideologies and political sytems, and Yeats, who never went beyond admiration for a general romantic sentiment and spirit, a sentiment which is conspicuously present in fascism, but appears all over the place in western culture,including among committed Marxists and indigenous rights activists. If Yeats was a fascist in the same way as Pound was, he would have advocated for fascist policies when he got into parliament. But really he just floundered. Even his speech about Mussolini praises only the vigor and energy of their movement, hardly even touching on anything specifically ideological or political.

Yeats' only overtly political poem, Easter 1916, is deeply equivocal and uncertain about the possibilities for Irish nationalism. If he was fascist in any meaningful way, he would not really be able to ask "was it needless death after all?" about martyrs of the Irish nation? THere's alsothe part in Rosa Alchemia where he cowers in fear at the thought of some future fanaticism taking over the state, which is as close to politics as I think you'll get in any of Yeats' published works.
I think the reason I'm uncomfortable with the idea of fellow travelers, specifically in relation to art, is because it politicizes and polemicizes works which ought to be read as expressions of imagination. There might be a sense in which fascism flows from romanticism, but it's one of many channels flowing out of that source. Yeats work is a lot more ccomplex and multifaceted than a prescriptive political ideology.

>. Every normal, mentally and spiritually healthy human being for probably a thousand years (at the very least, since the 16th century) has had a conception of "ethnic purity" in Evola's sense.
Doesn't even apply to all fascists. And surely you don't think obsessing over purity is spiritually healthy.

[Anonymous No.20391427]

>>20384824
What, Golem is his worst? What's the best one?

[Anonymous No.20391659]

>>20390791
>The Pound Era
u mean every tiem im w/ur mum lmao

[Anonymous No.20391756]

>>20390791
>As long as conceptions of human groups have existed, conceptions of their integrity, solidarity, and health have necessarily existed
this is so broad as to be meaningless and you sound like alain de benoist or some other new right pseud
>and varying discourses have necessarily then existed regarding influxes of foreignness, whether demographic, phenotypical, cultural, linguistic, etc.
None of this is "necessary." self/other is not the only paradigm for viewing social relations. And the fact that "varying discourses have existed" doesn't prove that racism is correct. this way of talking, masking crude racism behind meaningless theory, is so equivocal and dishonest

[Anonymous No.20391990]

>>20391756
Alain de Benoist is pretty good. I'm glad more of his stuff is getting translated. In my opinion his best shit is in anthologies of his editorials. Also, Telos published a collection of all his Telos articles. Along with their edition of Piccone's essays, it's some of the best critical theory in the last 50 years.

>None of this is "necessary."
We have to disagree there. To me, peoples having discourses about what it means to be a people and thus to be a healthy or prospering people is as close to a cultural universal or "necessity" as you can get without ceasing to be heuristic and reflexive in social science, something like what Peter Winch called a "limiting concept."

The Egyptians called foreign nomads something like "wanderers" or "plunderers," and the Hyksos literally means something like "foreigners." The word Welsh comes from Anglo-Saxon meaning "foreigner" or non-German. If you read Gildas, he's acutely aware that the Anglo-Saxons are a different ethnos. But then compare the famous anecdote about Gregory the Great asking who the tall blond men were at the port in Rome, and upon being told they were Anglo-Saxons, replying "non angli sunt, sed angeli" (they are not Angli, but angels). Still a perception that they are "different." Caligula surrounded himself with Germanic barbarians for exactly this reason: they were visibly, culturally, and linguistically different (he probably learned German while on the northern frontier as a child).

Ethnic divisions are normal. Sumerian lament literature is full of moaning about how everything has gone to shit since x, y, and z arrived. You should see how anti-barbarian and chauvinistic the Babylonians were. The Chinese have a 3000+ year history of living in constant terror of ethnically and phenotypically different northern nomads. The non-Han peoples of the Chinese south, who have now mostly been replaced by Han, still resent their replacement and displacement and resented it even more in previous centuries when they could still resist it. Supposedly atheistic Japanese and Chinese and Korean people who look alike and share common culture (Confucian and Buddhist) despise each other and genocide each other whenever they get a chance. The Chinese court resented the foreign influence of Buddhism, which resentment partly led to Neo-Confucianism as authentically Chinese. There's a famous episode in which a Chinese Confucian mocks Buddhist relic veneration by accusing his fellow Chinese of worshiping "the bones of a foreigner."

Across all epochs and all spans of time and space, people are aware of what anthropologists and sociologists sometimes obnoxiously call "ethnies," and are sensitive to changes in their ethnie.

>"varying discourses have existed" doesn't prove that racism is correct.
This I never said. But you didn't read and aren't interested in reading. If you're even the original guy I'm talking to, I see you take the same attitude toward 4chan posts as you do to Yeats' writings.

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Nah man, there's a lot of lurkers into sisterfucking and lycanthropy around here.

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>>20391990
>>20391990
lol this whole post is a pretentious blustering insincere attempt to derive the conclusion "racism (hostility and suspicion to other 'ethnies') is natural and valid" from the premise "varying discourses have existed"

you fucking nigger. yeats is my favourite writer, I listen to him and dream with him, instead of trying to draft his work into some dorky metapolitical larp.

Im going to bednow, thanks for the reading recommendations, but i really hope you kill yourself. might as well, right? since we're in the kali yuga and the ethnies are all mixed up.

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>>20389474
kek women have hair like that on every part of their body. even on their face. im sorry a high res pic uncovered that horrible truth to you

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>>20384772
Brion Gysin, never seen him mentioned here.

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>>20392050
How is it insincere to say "I dunno, I'm looking at history and groups of people seem both aware of, and concerned about, other groups of people taking them over or melding with their group in a way that changes their social and cultural fabric"? I don't believe in biological race, I believe in metaphysical root races like most occultists did, as I had to unfortunately teach you about above.

The biological and phenotypical are merely manifestations of underlying metaphysical realities. We don't know what kinds of melding and fusion are possible, but just to be safe, it's best not to erase all diversity on the planet because you watched too many PBS specials and you personally have an identity crisis about being a mixed race person or deracinated immigrant or whatever your problem is.

>instead of trying to draft his work into some dorky metapolitical larp.
You're the one who brought up politics and Jordan Peterson of all things. I've told you several times now, you're the one who is obsessed with race. You were also the first one to bring up the Jews and Evola. Your first post, in a thread about neglected authors, was 20% "why don't more people read Yeats (?? already a bit of a strange thing to say, but whatever)," 80% "and FURTHERMORE, FUCK JORDAN PETERSON IN 2022!"

However much /pol/ obsesses over Jews, you obsess over this /pol/ strawman of yours five to six million times more.

>i really hope you kill yourself
Very typical tranny discord/twitter mindset, and actually a form of projection. You think everybody lives like you do, on a razor's edge between self-aggrandizement and self-hatred, perpetually unhappy but too emotional and insecure to deal with it in mature ways, always trying to get attention and sympathy from random strangers, etc., so you think you're hitting them where it hurts by telling them to do what you yourself secretly want to do.

I don't want you to commit suicide, but I do think it's going to become increasingly likely if you keep dressing up like a woman and ranting about Jordan Peterson to goad the chuds, when you're not even stable enough to keep calm when a chud inevitably replies.

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>>20392050
Oh please. You got btfo'd by an anon who actually reads (and thinks) and this reddit cope is the best you can do? I would suggest having more concern for your dignity, but I suppose that would presume you had any to begin with.

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>>20384772
I see it sometimes, but very rarely: Georg Trakl. He doesn't get attention he deserves.

Addenda: An even more esoteric writer would be Triztán Vindtorn.

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>>20392133
you ignored my substantive post about yeats
because you know im right.
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>>20384772
hal bennett

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>>20392153
>I see it sometimes, but very rarely: Georg Trakl. He doesn't get attention he deserves
You are retarded. He is mentioned frequently and is listed in several /lit/ charts.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20392266]

David Park Barnitz, George Sterling, montaque summers, Christopher smart, William cowper, James Elroy Flecker, Edward Pollock, Jose-maria heredia, li-he, r Murray gilchrist, Mitchell S Buck and AE Russell. If asked I will post a bit from each of them.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20392299]

Oh two more authors that are fantastic, aloysius Bertrand, and Donald Sidney fryer whose still alive.

>>20389622
How do you feel about George Macdonald? I also think you find the same wholesomeness in dunsany.

>>20385326
I also like Webster, specifically the white devil.

>>20385387
I’m a major shill for him.

>>20390260
I’ve shilled Waite around but I think he’s genuinely too much occultism for most people here just looking for poetry.

>>20390315
Keats is very popular.

>>20390276
May fortune be forgotten and her name blotted.

>>20390353
I’ve seen him mentioned and I’ve seen a decent amount of discussion concerning him.

>>20392215
He’s in a grey zone, he’s mentioned at times but he’s never actually discussed.

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>>20392173
Oops, I missed it earlier. That's why I (mistakenly) said that you didn't even read my post, because I thought your only reply was the other thing. My bad.

>>20391274
I think you would be surprised at how much we agree. My whole point is just the obverse of yours: setting up binaries of who was a "real fascist" or a "mere dabbler in fascism" is stupid to begin with, so let's just rethink the whole thing in terms of elective affinities. Keeping it Irish, were the Blueshirts fascist? Did you know there's a fierce debate over whether NAZISM was fascist, because one prominent ideal type of fascism is Italian Fascism which did not have a very strong racial element (as you say), and National Socialism was explicitly racist, and völkisch (which is both similar to and different from Italian romantic nationalist tendencies)?

I agree that Yeats was never programmatically fascist. Neither was T.S. Eliot. But when you open that door, you also open the door to many others who vaunt their inner émigré and, let's face it, "I was only pretending to be retarded" status during their fascist years. Hence all the debates about Heidegger et al. I mentioned above.

Here's another interesting question. Was Kojeve really or not really a communist, when he claimed to be one but also supported totalitarian liberalism? What about Benjamin, who was basically a romantic mystic who identified the world-spirit with communism, but also sucked at being Marxist and constantly got rebuked by Adorno for it? It's impossible to classify Benjamin, despite his explicit avowals of being a commie.

>a sentiment which is conspicuously present in fascism, but appears all over the place in western culture
I seriously do recommend the Breuer and Griffin books I mentioned above on this topic. Like I said, an elective affinities model allows you to avoid all kinds of arbitrary binaries and awkward situations like Benjamin's un-Marxist Marxism and Chesterbelloc philofascism, or the fact that so many leftists and Marxists joined Mussolini's Fascism, or the fact that many supporters of Italian Fascism were Futurists and others who only partially identified with it, or the fact that people like Heidegger only supported Nazism insofar as they thought they could steer it, or the fact that Jünger pushed völkisch politics that led directly to the rise of the NSDAP but then disavowed them, or the fact that Thomas Mann the arch-liberal "constitutionalist" and future friend of Adorno also supported völkisch tendencies during WW1, or the fact that many thinkers like Spengler and Moeller van den Bruck disavowed fascists but are considered by scholars to be fellow travellers, etc.

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>>20392302
(continued)
Accordingly, I don't think Yeats was a fascist any more than I think Guénon was one, but they have strong elective affinities with many channels of fascist thought, just like the Futurists did. For the same reason, the Dadaist and Traditionalist Evola called himself a "suprafascist." Yeats was suprafascist in the same sense, as was Eliot, who even less than Yeats can be associated with programmatic political fascism. Even Pound was suprafascist. He says so in Jefferson and/or Mussolini, where he also supports Lenin and (as the title suggests) Jefferson, and says fascism cannot be exported because it is uniquely Italian. Does that make him not a fascist?

>cowers in fear at the thought of some future fanaticism taking over the state
Heidegger and Jünger both wrote exactly this about Nazism while living under it, but they also led to its rise (Heidegger directly, Jünger at least indirectly). Does that absolve them? They all do this. They want a world-redeeming revolution of the spirit but they are ambivalent about the forms it may take. Look at Nietzsche, who writes on one page about philistinism and barbarism and on the next page about the need for a new barbarism to sweep aside all the dead weight oppressing the European mind. That kind of ambivalence and paradoxicality is standard for late romanticism and modernist anti-modernism. They're ALL complex and multifaceted, and exhibit a wide spectrum of responses toward fascism (rejection, embrace, flirtation, usually fluctuating mixtures of all of the above). Benn is a great example.

So dissolve the stupid binary and stop trying to find Nazi racism in everybody. Stop trying to find the one perfect criterion that makes someone a Nazi chud, and that excuses you from thinking further about their ideas. Was Ezra Pound necessarily an antisemite? Was Marx? What about Eliot, or Heidegger? Is antisemitism even a useful criteria for fascism, if Italy wasn't particularly antisemitic? What about Stern's Lehi? Were they fascist Jews? Were National Bolshevists and "beefsteak Nazis" "real fascists?"

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20392314]

Rilke is very popular but isn’t discussed very much here, you’ll see him brought up at random though but I never see anyone deep dive him on here. I like him!

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20392361]

Man there’s also Marcel Schwob, William Beckford and John Mandeville and Hanns Heinz Ewers and Gautier and Théodore de Banville and Charles nodier and Théophile de Viau and Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet.

Theres so much good stuff!

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20392387]

Ahhhhh I’ll post one more then I’ll stop myself. If you like older High fantasy and you’ve not come across it, you’ve gotta read E. R. Eddison.

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Bump

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>>20385823
As far as forgotten Americans go, I've always been partial to John O'Hara.

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Henry Williamson
https://counter-currents.com/2010/08/henry-williamson-natures-visionary/

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Viktor Rydberg

>In 1857, Rydberg's first novel, Fribytaren på Östersjön (The Freebooter of the Baltic; 1857), a historical romance set in the 17th century, incorporating themes of piracy, witchcraft and nautical excursions, was published.

>This was soon followed by his first major success, and one of his most popular novels, Singoalla (1858), a "romantic story out of the Middle Ages, permeated with a poetic nature-mysticism, about the tragic love between a knight and a gypsy girl."[16]

>In 1859, Rydberg's most ambitious novel, and his last one for thirty years, was published under the title Den siste Atenaren (The Last Athenian). This, his best-known novel, offers a contrast between "Rydberg's admiration for classical antiquity and his critical attitude to dogmatic Christianity."[16] This struggle is set in Athens, in the time of the last pagan emperor, Julian the Apostate, during the transition from Platonic paganism to Christianity. The novel advocates a philosophy founded on the noblest elements of both ideologies. William Widgery Thomas, Jr. said that "at scarcely thirty years of age" Rydberg was "already acknowledged to be the foremost living prose writer of Scandinavia."[17]

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>>20389227
Yeah, I've read it. I guess you could find it comfy if you ignore the undercurrent of existential dread.

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>>20388161
Eg har og lest is-slottet!

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>>20385671

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Hermann Broch, only sometimes mentioned for his modernist masterpiece Death of Vergil, even though The Sleepwalkers is even greater. Very seldom have I heard his name mentioned around these parts.

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>>20393858
I always mix him up with Ernst Bloch

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>>20384970
Your diary gets mentioned in literally every thread.

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>>20388844
Would give it a shot, thanks.

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>>20384772
Steig Larsson

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>>20384951
I brought him up the other day in the what you reading thread desperately hoping for someone to discuss Auto Da Fe with! How good. Recs from where to go after I have finished after?

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>>20392133
Btfo'd

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So many good writers mentioned!

>>20389723
Especially good when she's riding you too

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>>20392302
good post

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>>20385823
I don’t think Theroux is going to get a reconsideration until he controls his ego and accepts an offer for the rights to reprint his works. That’s been his major issue. There is a market for him, but he won’t budge on price and the publishers don’t think he is worth his estimation of himself.

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>>20384772
wittkop... the real ones know.