/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20383454]

Which authors have you come across who are as blackpilled as Schopenhauer?

[Anonymous No.20383477]

>>20383454
final blackpill

[Anonymous No.20383486]

>>20383477
What was his argument again? That the universe is the manifestation of a dying God or something, forever breaking into more fractured pieces?

[Anonymous No.20383489]

>>20383486
Pretty much yeah, dead not dying tho

[Anonymous No.20383762]

Skinner.

[Anonymous No.20383978]

>>20383477
>blackpill
He thought dying freed him.
Imagine how blackpilled he is right now.

Bahnsen is the only one who got it right.

[Anonymous No.20383995]

>>20383454
"Life is not worth living"
>proceeds to live to the ripe old age of 72

Explain.

[Anonymous No.20384000]

>>20383995
the concept of worth is not applicable to life experiences

[Anonymous No.20384002]

Schopenhauer attributed civilizational primacy to the northern "white races" due to their sensitivity and creativity (except for the ancient Egyptians and Hindus, whom he saw as equal):

The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization.[210]

Holy shit was Schopenhauer really /ourguy/?

[Anonymous No.20384065]

>>20383454
Anybody got that quote of his about how women prefer large men regardless of other attributes because intelligence and etc. are more easily corrected than a small and defective physical form? I don't know how I'd search for it.

[Anonymous No.20384102]

>>20383477
lightweight
>>20383995
The explanation is on the third essay of the genealogy of morals

[Anonymous No.20384938]

>>20384102
based, every alive anti-natalist is A SPIDER and a contradictory cuck who enjoing life by shitting on the life. Feels good to be fellow Nietzschean. Sublime!

[Anonymous No.20384955]

Schopenhauer's moral philosophy can be discarded. He is right about metaphysics though.

[Anonymous No.20384957]

>>20383454
Was he right lads? Is asceticism and rejecting the will the only way to free yourself?

[Anonymous No.20384968]

>>20384957
Sometimes, affirming the will to power is the only way out.

[Anonymous No.20384994]

>>20384065
>tfw 6'2 and 130+ IQ
still no gf, fuck u schope

[Anonymous No.20384997]

Yeah but he didn't kill himself, so everything he wrote can be discarded.

[Anonymous No.20385000]

>>20384065
Being big or smart won’t help you when you’re mentally defective like >>20384994
It’s why there are still women who settle for short, not so smart guys.

[Anonymous No.20385004]

>>20385000
>mentally defective
That's very rude that you would call me that anon >:(

[Anonymous No.20385009]

>>20383486
That the creation of the universe was the act of God's suicide. God, being all wise, realised life was not worth living, so killed himself by creating the universe out of himself.

[Anonymous No.20385012]

>>20385004
It’s not entirely your fault. Our culture puts too much emphasis on extroversion.

[Anonymous No.20385023]

>>20384968
Explain.

[Anonymous No.20385088]

>>20383477
Isn't someone on reddit actually translating this into english for the first time?
He had a ridiculous ego which really turns off some random blackpiller like me; how am I supposed to earnestly think that any suicide, let alone mine, could genuinely have some metaphysical significance?

[Anonymous No.20385092]

>>20385009
Wow that's more retarded than I thought. God Would obviously be able to destroy all existence, if he was indeed capable of destroying himself at all.

[Anonymous No.20385142]

>>20385023
Schopenhauer: negation of the will to power
Nietzsche: affirmation of the will to power

[Anonymous No.20385153]

>>20385142
I know that but what were Nietzsche's reasons?

[Anonymous No.20385162]

>>20385153
That's like asking why the chicken crossed the road.

[Anonymous No.20385229]

>>20384065
Shakespeare would have made a pun on that

[Anonymous No.20385434]

>>20385000
I...didn't ask. Just wanted the quote so I could post it with an image of Brendan Schaub.

[Anonymous No.20385436]

>>20385142
What if I alternate between those two modes or simultaneously affirm and negate the will

what happens
glitch the simulation? break into madness"?"?

[Anonymous No.20385454]

>>20385436
>simultaneously affirm and negate the will
Then you would contradict yourself.

>The Tao that can be named is not the Eternal Tao

[Anonymous No.20385742]

>>20383454
early nick land unironically

[Anonymous No.20385758]

>>20385742
I find Nick Lands early works highly inspiring, its a shame many others can not appreciate those feelings

[Anonymous No.20385771]

>literally wrote an entire book on how to live a good life
yep... i'm thinking based.

[Anonymous No.20385779]

>>20385758
it can be inspiring but it naturally is omnicidal

[Anonymous No.20385787]

>>20383454
Nietzsche, Debord, Deleuze, Lyotard, Baudrillard, Lilly, Land
>>20383477
cringe

[Anonymous No.20385799]

>>20383454
Wtf does he mean by denying the will to live and wtf does Buddha mean by "birth bad"?

[Anonymous No.20385859]

>>20385779
Personaly I always got the impression from his works that in the deepest depths of the omnicidial void there was a transcendental salvation to be found beyond the horizon, if one is willing to reach it

[Anonymous No.20385931]

>>20385142
Schop is will to life, N is will to power

[Anonymous No.20385961]

>>20383978
Are you aware that there's materialist theories of how the universe can fuck us after death?

[Anonymous No.20386021]

>>20384938
Will reading Nietzsche help me escape my pessimism and anti-natalism? Not doing good, bros

[Anonymous No.20386070]

>>20385961
Examples?

[Anonymous No.20386158]

>>20384002
Aryans originate from Iran so it would make sense that they could have emigrated to both India and Europe.

[Anonymous No.20386169]

>>20386158
Iran (and basically every country in Europe and the ME/India) was invaded by IE from the Pontic Steppe.

[Anonymous No.20386228]

>>20385787
>Debord, Deleuze, Lyotard, Baudrillard, Lilly, Land
Nothing valuable here. Don`t waste your time bros read some manga instead.
>>20386021
I don`t know what the reason of your hatred?

[Anonymous No.20386358]

>>20385931
Two sides of the same coin, wouldn't you say?

[Anonymous No.20386585]

>>20386228
>I don`t know what the reason of your hatred?
it's because I'm gay but don't want to be

[Anonymous No.20386740]

>>20385961
Retard

[Anonymous No.20386961]

>>20384997
False. Only optimists commit suicide.

[Anonymous No.20386980]

>>20385771
Whoever made this wasn't well acquainted with Nietzsche. He wasn't a materialist as he didn't even believe in the existence of matter, and SJWs and leftists don't like him because he's explicitly anti-egalitarian.

[Anonymous No.20387044]

>>20386961
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.20387085]

>>20383454
>>20383978
Does blackpill now mean "lol depressing lmao"?

[Anonymous No.20387137]

>>20386585
Don't orgasm for at least a week, then watch straight porn.

[Anonymous No.20387243]

>>20387085
It did when I invented. Incels started using it a few years after.

[Anonymous No.20387294]

Carlo Michelstaedter

[Anonymous No.20387391]

>>20384002
He was against slavery.

[Anonymous No.20387484]

>>20386585
You can live a good life without having sex.

[Anonymous No.20387496]

>>20386358
What is this gay speak? It's one or the other. NO EXCEPTIONS.

[Anonymous No.20388304]

>>20383454

[Anonymous No.20388880]

>>20383454
Edward Dutton

[Anonymous No.20388951]

>>20385771
what book is this?

[Anonymous No.20388982]

>>20385787
>>Nietzsche, Debord, Deleuze, Lyotard, Baudrillard, Lilly, Land
all atheists living 200 years well inside the atheist society

yeah it's trash. try to find authors before the british revolution

[Anonymous No.20388989]

>>20386021

Nietzsche is a pure product of the secular humanism, desperate to turn the inherent nihilism of humanism into ''''''''''optimistic nihilism'''''', like the subhumans Hegel, Kant, Heidegger, Adorno, Habermas, Arendt, Husserl, Popper, Strauss, Weisse, Carnap, Engels, marx,Feuerbach, Frege, Fitche, [all germans, weird huh? germans can't think, they suck at wars so they fell back on ''''''''''philosophy'''''' who travestied the greek philosophy which was lived, and they turned it into mental masturbation in sterile universities, in order to get a cushy life like a generic girl gets one from her orbiters]. Germans thinkers are vaginas who think they think.
. Nietzsche is your typical atheist that you find on every street corner nowadays. Those people are torn apart by nihilism and delusion of grandeur where they view themselves as a benevolent despot willy-nilly leading humanity towards a higher life.
Nietzsche is:
-an atheist [there is no god]
-an anti-christian [like any marxist] [Dude dont think long term like the life-denier christians, only the here and now matters OKAY!!]
-a nihilist [there is no truth, only interpretation, TRUTH!!!]
-an hedonist [Only this life matters!!1 live in the present moment to coom like my dancing vitalist idol, the great dyonisus!! teehee im Nietzsche btw]
-a narcissist [look how I analysed the totally non-judeo-christian-made concept of ''''''human nature''''' , Humanity is will to power!!! LE HECKIN INSIGHT]
-a jew glorifier ["The Jews, however, are beyond any doubt the strongest, toughest, and purest race now living in Europe."]
-a postmodernist [values don't exist but reality doesn't matter bro!!! Just become le heckin uberman, sink further into delusion, create your own values and fight for them until you die!!]

You believe you're a woman? You go giiiiiirl, nobody can tell you otherwise, period!!

yeah no wonder that self righteous NPCs want to identify with his diarrhea all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.20389110]

>>20388989
meds

[Anonymous No.20389134]

>>20384955
What makes you discard it? His ethics are the opposite of neech's correct?

[Anonymous No.20389194]

>>20384002
Schopenhauer was against slavery but he was also aware of the jews and seemed to dislike them


>Schopenhauer also maintained a marked metaphysical and political anti-Judaism. He argued that Christianity constituted a revolt against what he styled the materialistic basis of Judaism, exhibiting an Indian-influenced ethics reflecting the Aryan-Vedic theme of spiritual self-conquest. He saw this as opposed to the ignorant drive toward earthly utopianism and superficiality of a worldly "Jewish" spirit:

>[Judaism] is, therefore, the crudest and poorest of all religions and consists merely in an absurd and revolting theism. It amounts to this that the κύριος ['Lord'], who has created the world, desires to be worshipped and adored; and so above all he is jealous, is envious of his colleagues, of all the other gods; if sacrifices are made to them he is furious and his Jews have a bad time ... It is most deplorable that this religion has become the basis of the prevailing religion of Europe; for it is a religion without any metaphysical tendency. While all other religions endeavor to explain to the people by symbols the metaphysical significance of life, the religion of the Jews is entirely immanent and furnishes nothing but a mere war-cry in the struggle with other nations

[Anonymous No.20390709]

>>20386961
>>20387044
samefag

[Anonymous No.20390836]

>>20385092
Filtered. God existed as a singularity and underwent a process of self fragmentation in order to die. You’re projecting your retarded Christian conception of God as something that exists entirely outside of the physical universe in a different realm onto this philosophy.

[Anonymous No.20390903]

>>20389134
Neech doesn't propose an ethical system.

[Anonymous No.20390904]

>>20389134
Nietzsche’s ethics are compatible with Schopenhauer’s metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.20392303]

>>20390904
This. I've always viewed Nietzsche as an extension of the Schopenhauerian project, struggling with its implications. Putting aside N's dislike of metaphysics, he's basically what you get when you see the tragedy of Schopy's worldview but decide to embrace that tragedy and try to enjoy life anyway.

[Anonymous No.20393493]

>>20383454
bump

[Anonymous No.20393516]

>>20388304
I tried reading him and he was fucking dense.

[Anonymous No.20393527]

>>20385000
Mental defectiveness is a matter of perception, mental disorders are just variations of different personality typologies

[Anonymous No.20393535]

>>20388989

Cope. You write like someone who desperately needs their lithium.

[Anonymous No.20393539]

>>20388982
>all atheists living 200 years well inside the atheist society
Perfect, this is for blackpilled authors anon.

[Anonymous No.20393542]

>>20385787
>Nietzsche
>BlackPiller
He was the most life-affirming man i've ever read, you need to actually read a mans work before talking about it.

[Anonymous No.20394010]

>>20386021
no, actually living a fulfilling life and going out more often will. deep down you know your ideas are childish and infantile and you're in that stage where you've rationalized your feelings and, regardless of whether you read Nietzsche or not, your mind has already decided what it's going to filter or not. you may listen to these arguments but you've already chosen how you're going to feel about them before you start reading it.

[Anonymous No.20394189]

>>20383454
Jesus

[Anonymous No.20394211]

>>20388989
You did not read any book written by Nietzsche
You did not even read his Wikipedia page
You are barely even literate

[Anonymous No.20394631]

>>20388951
Parerga and Paralipomena volume one Aphorisms on the Wisdom of Life

[Anonymous No.20394763]

>>20389194
Based

[Anonymous No.20395267]

He’s just a German interpretation of Eastern religion/dogma

[Anonymous No.20395303]

>>20394010
So what did you do? Seems like you got out of it

[Anonymous No.20395788]

>>20383454
Kentaro Miura

[Anonymous No.20396893]

.

[Anonymous No.20396942]

>>20385771
Nietzsche
>lives and dies insane and miserable
Schopenhauer
>lives and dies happily, a genius of language and connoisseur of music and art

[Anonymous No.20396945]

>>20383454
>Schopenhauer is blackpilled
filtered kek

[Anonymous No.20396948]

>>20383454
Pessimists are the worst type of people

[Anonymous No.20396954]

>>20386585
pray

[Anonymous No.20396961]

>>20383454
I offer you the whitepill to Schopenhauer.
>How the universe is experienced by the individual means: how he participates in its eternal flux. This is the reason why we find authentic symbols of life in such kindred phenomena as high spirits, warmth, heat, love, respect, and devotion... Such phenomena arouse a pulsating current between ego and world. In willing and yearning, on the other hand, there is merely tension.

[Anonymous No.20396970]

>>20394010
That's romantic and all but not very real-world.

You have to write a backstory to make your juju work. You need some isolated soul who hasn't touched grass in years to go out and watch birds and cultivate some sort magical "will."

It doesn't hold up for the inversion of your fiction. Take my introduction to pessimism; Successful musician, large social group, good family, all totally derailed by illness and tragedy.

I didn't choose to feel a way about the world, the world just showed its cards. You can't talk OP out of a revelation by drumming up some critical error in his judgement. He may accidentally be assessing things correctly. You're merely recommending some home-cooked Zapffian distraction. This may or may not be just what he needs, but it also doesn't point to some capital T "Truth," just like relentless pessimism doesn't either, necessarily.

I don't really "choose" to call putting pain patches on my dying mother a decidedly negative event. If I want to turn the situation on its head and do some mental gymnastics I can surely find a comforting fallacy in there somewhere, but that's all it will be.

[ἐντελής No.20396974]

>>20383762

[Anonymous No.20396992]

>>20396970
>boohoo I have a ridiculously sympathetic backstory
kys

[Anonymous No.20397006]

>>20396992
Try to post something defensible in the future and it won't be so easy to shut you down.

Real problems deserve mature attention and not greeting-card tier aphorisms.

[Anonymous No.20397014]

>>20397006
I'm not the guy you responded to, you just annoyed me.

[Anonymous No.20397017]

>>20384002
>except for the ancient Egyptians and Hindus

Ancient Egyptians would have hated Hindus with a passion.

[Anonymous No.20397019]

>>20397014
Oh, good. Don't be that guy.

[Anonymous No.20397035]

hoeullebecq, celine, bernhard at times

[Anonymous No.20397082]

>>20385009
Wow, it's just like my favorite /lit/ series the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson. I never knew he was one of the e/lit/e bros

[Anonymous No.20397127]

>>20385000
That's right bitches, these hoes settle for me every day. Fuckin virgin chads, suck my retarded manlet dick