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In the end of part 1 of TSZ Zarathustra tells his students to go their own ways and that he shall return when they no longer find him a good teacher, is this Nietzsche saying to leave the book for a bit and come back to it after our own philosophical journey?

>> No.20377373

. Nietzsche is your typical atheist that you find on every street corner nowadays. Those people are torn apart by nihilism and delusion of grandeur where they view themselves as a benevolent despot willy-nilly leading humanity towards a higher life.

>> No.20377377

>>20377373
who asked?

>> No.20377391

I don't think Nietzsche sees himself in Zarathustra.

>> No.20377410
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>>20377125
nietzsche plagarized max stirner - the ego and its own, his overman (a person who is free from stagnant values that chain people to the past and capable of making his own) is a bastardization of voluntary egoist
he took the same idea, slapped on top of it the idea of making new values for others to follow and glorified "will to power", he believed in people being elite but acknowledge he himself is not by saying he is not an overman
nietzsche pumped out many books to say the same thing over and over again because the only thing he understood from the voluntary egoist is that they are not bound by morality that is written in stone, he thought this meant that they must be cold and above laws and morality, max stirner states that this could not be further from the truth that he saw and preached
stirner loved his fellow men and his gift to them was a way to break free of their chains, nietzsche could not understand that so he tried to copy it into something he could understand, he said cruelty was the highest form of aristocracy but could not live up to his own values
if you want to be overman then you have innate desire to control others, if you were actually able to become a overman you would not want those chains on anyone or at the very least you would understand that the values you created are worthless air and would only be motivated to give those out of misguided desire to herd people, i don't think a man with messiah complex or cruelty like that can ever truly understand the true beauty of the voluntary egoism

>> No.20377571

>>20377410
who asked?

>> No.20377595

>>20377125
If you feel that’s best.

>> No.20377617

>>20377377
triggered fedora lmao

>> No.20377684

>>20377617
Well, you didn't answer his fucking question, so I'd be a bit annoyed, too.

>> No.20378031

>>20377125
he want's you to surpass him

>> No.20378741

>>20377125
You should finish the book. It's not suggesting to stop in the middle of the book, it's more a reference to his bibliography overall.