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20368801 No.20368801 [Reply] [Original]

So now that the dust has settled, which was the better book: Stella Maris or The Passenger? For me, it's gotta be The Passengers, because it had a male protagonist, not a female one. What about you?

>> No.20368837

>>20368801
It’s reddit the book.

>> No.20368848

I hadn't heard they finally got a release date, thanks OP.

>> No.20368856

You're a retard OP

>> No.20368864

>>20368837
Reddit: the post

>>20368848
Okay

>>20368856
Sure, but which one was better?

>> No.20369149

Even though this is a gay thread I want to chime in and say that I'm excited to see how his style has developed since The Road.
I reread the Border Trilogy and BM and while the language is obviously great, his overuse of the same metaphors and the weird skips between levels of description started to wear on me. The Crossing in particular is very frustrating because it feels like fragments of several different masterpieces that were cobbled together in a way that doesn't quite gel.
Compare that to The Road- the first time I read it I wasn't as impressed because it felt more sparse, but now I can appreciate that he dialed back the flowery writing and saved it for short bursts at important moments.

>> No.20369169

>>20369149
I feel the other way around, while NCFOM and The Road were much more accessibly written, I really hope to see a return to the heights of prose he was able to achieve in The Crossing, Blood Meridian, and Suttree. I am not sure if the more accessible style of his most recent two books reflects a change in his own preferences (since he's said he always writes for himself as a reader) or whether it was a choice to appeal more to Hollywood, which obviously did end up working out for him, but which may not be a motivation anymore at his extremely advanced age and with his son grown up.

>> No.20369196

>>20368801
>Cormac McCarthy
What a meme author.

>> No.20369202

>>20369196
t. proust fan

>> No.20369214

>>20368801
it's a western horror story
some disturbing reading

>> No.20369230

>>20369214
I thought Outer Dark was more disturbing

>>20369149
Wow I literally cannot even

>> No.20369257

>>20369169
The highs of his old stuff, like the Comanche attack in BM or the end of the wolf section from The Crossing definitely outscores anything in his newer stuff but I felt like the stories as a whole were kind of bloated and exhausting. He's at his best when he can lock into that Old Testament style and smoothly switch to a breather with characters having one-word conversations and spitting and eating tortillas. I feel like his grandiose language starts to feel watered-down when he's using it to describe mundane things. Describing a dead horse as "the beast bloated and leathered in the sun with its belly taut like the grave wardrum of some mendicant god" loses its impact when you've heard stuff like it fifty times before.

>> No.20369259

I'm scared that Stella Maris won't turn out good. What're they possibly going to talk about for 200 pages? I really hope that Cormac has taught himself math and physics up to a graduate level so that the things they talk about come off as authentic.

>> No.20369272

>>20369259
He's great at turning vague philosophical notions into very human conversations. Bell in No Country visiting his brother(?) and just shooting the shit, or the random weirdos in the Border Trilogy rambling about their ideas of God and history.
I'm sure he's aware that it'll be his final work, I doubt he'd release something if he wasn't confident in it.

>> No.20369294

>>20369259
He's been hanging around that science and math research center for like 20 years now. I should hope he can pick up some higher level concepts

>> No.20369389

>>20369259
There are some excerpts of it floating around, which I believe an anon typed up from listening to the reading they did at Santa Fe years ago. I thought it was pretty good stuff. It seems like a socratic dialogue where Cormac inserts his metaphysical ideas into the female schizo-genius character who's being questioned by some guy.

>> No.20369406

>>20369257
Yeah, the more stripped-down style from his recent works definitely gives the story itself more of a central role by removing the descriptive texture. I just happen to really like that textural aspect, but I think it's subjective and I can understand how people can regard it as overly purple for their tastes. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes with The Passenger. Stella Maris appears more similar to Sunset Limited in that it's just a dialogue, although I'm only basing that on the Santa Fe reading which may not be indicative of the entire work.

>> No.20370272

>>20369406
I totally agree.

>> No.20370359

Lol I wonder if any one ever called him macmac

>> No.20371299

Anyone ever read the Stonemason's by Cormac?

>> No.20371697

>>20369272
>I'm sure he's aware that it'll be his final work, I doubt he'd release something if he wasn't confident in it.
He's been talking about this for what 20-30 years? Could be overworked, could be garbage but nobody can say he hasn't had time to get it to where he wanted it.

>> No.20371708

>>20369272
>I doubt he'd release something if he wasn't confident in it.
He might well be confident in it but that doesn't mean it will be any good. When people get old their judgement goes. The decay that stops you writing well will also stop you being able to judge your work. You see this a lot with all kinds of artists. They lose it but they don't realize they've lost it.

>> No.20371944

>>20368837
>>20368864
Retarded 4channer: the post

20368837
Blood Meridian ain't a reddit book.

>> No.20371964
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20371964

>>20368801
Stella Maris has more agua.

>> No.20372110

>>20371299
Yes, it was OK. It's a short play, not even close to his best stuff but if you're a fan of the man I would check it out.

>> No.20372115

https://www.openculture.com/2011/04/werner_herzog_and_cormac_mccarthy.html

Here's a nice interview with Werner Herzog and Cormac McCarthy, where Herzog even reads a passage from "All the pretty horses".