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[Anonymous No.20363068]

Are there any specific branches of philosophy that are as complex / intellectually demanding as the most complex fields of physics or mathematics?

[Anonymous No.20363075]

>>20363068
No.

[Anonymous No.20363077]

>>20363075

[Anonymous No.20363153]

>>20363068
There should be, interesting topic. Bump.

[Anonymous No.20363278]

>>20363068
>complex / intellectually demanding as the most complex fields of physics or mathematics?
you are such an ignorant subhuman loser it is not even funny. For your sake I hope you are from a third world country, and that is not something I would generally wish upon anyone.

[Anonymous No.20363280]

>>20363068
Not formally, no. I would say the most talented philosophers have as much brain power if such a thing exists as the most talented mathematicians and physicists. You can’t weigh them against each other because the formality of one asks something different as does the philosophy, rhetoric, memory and philology of the philosopher.
These aren’t dumb fields, that’s for certain. Many people will try to study philosophy and fail, I would say those are the same kind of people who try to study physics and fail.
Philosophy is a bit different in the US compared to the Continent though. Anglos have disregarded philosophy and let people who you can only call hacks write about your typical pozzitivity and wokeism. Germany is pretty stringent still and the undergrad who‘ll pursue a MA will have read essentially the entire canon and already developed to specialities.
Philosophy is about a lot of remembering and taking in the grand picture. You also commonly consider much of culture and various other fields to a pretty proficient degree. You can’t focus on one problemata because there is none. And wikipedia would tell you of the problems of philosophy but those are if not false grossly out of context. Having a problme to be solved is yet too formal for philosophy, and still they answer questions and problems. Philosophy is a science with problems, which is the true difficulty for most people when you try pursue philosophy professionally. Everyone can read the texts, but few can formulate their own questions truly, and distance themselves from their questions enough to not remain on the spot, not waste time.

[Anonymous No.20363287]

>>20363280
without problems*
Among other typos

[Anonymous No.20363295]

Any theology that is just a branch of philosophy is a failure. Cleave to the theologia crucis, friends.

[Anonymous No.20363305]

>>20363153
That's what math is for. Russell chose to be extremely rigorous in his philosophy but he was really a mathematician.

[Anonymous No.20363325]

All sciences stem from metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.20363340]

>>20363280
>everyone can read the texts
demonstrably false given this very board.

[Anonymous No.20363382]

>>20363068
What is german idealism

[Anonymous No.20363401]

The closest is logic. Otherwise, no.

[Anonymous No.20363405]

>>20363382
A single sophism repeated over and over

[Anonymous No.20363479]

>>20363068
No. The greeks taught rhetoric and classical logic, but all of that just boils down to basic negation/reversals of X and Y. In fact, you'd probably be better off not wasting any time with philosophy at all. You can learn propositional logic and other forms easily since you're well versed in math. Maybe you could dive into the logic surrounding linguistics too. Most modern philosophers love sitting on their ass wasting time with language games
>>20363382
Made me laugh. It literally does boil down to sophism

That's why you never see Kantians using any kind of formal logic. They instantly get blown the fuck out whenever mereology or physics comes up

[Anonymous No.20363497]

>>20363068
>Cosmology
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[Anonymous No.20363525]

>>20363068
Many people will tell you they understand much of philosophy, but there are fields few can say they understand, philosophy of science and much of the academic discourse on metaphysics is quite inaccessible to a layman

[Anonymous No.20363656]

>>20363340
It assumes that once you‘ve “locked in”, once you want to read the text and do read it, commit to this, you can actually read the text. A text is just a text, at least to the phen. Subjekt, no matter what philology you might unfold the text with. You however do actually need to read the text continuously and finish reading the text for this to be true. Which you’re right in that people here do not finish, do not read properly. You’re in quite the conflict when you cannot read “How to read a book”

[Anonymous No.20363661]

>>20363479
>analytic
>>philosophy

[Anonymous No.20363676]

Start with the Vedics and move on to the Buddhists.

[Anonymous No.20363681]

>>20363068
Philosophy is for fucking retards. Plato solved most of this shit thousands of years ago, and while I admittedly haven't read much Nietzsche, I hear he finished the rest. The last few hundreds years has just been overpaid pseuds justifying their bloated salaries.

[Anonymous No.20363721]

Logic is to real philosophy as computer science is to science. You can be good at it, but it's not science.

Most "philosophy" being practiced is not real philosophy, but real philosophy supersedes all formalism. True advances in philosophy always involve a restructuring of concepts and consciousness, which then drives a restructuring of existing formalisms. People who exclusively muck around in formalisms are usually visionless midwits.

[Anonymous No.20363779]

>>20363068
No

[Anonymous No.20363783]

>>20363280
Arithmetic was a philosophy before it was a science.

[Anonymous No.20363790]

>>20363068
Philosophy birthed physics

[Anonymous No.20363944]

>>20363721
Formalism & Mathematics = Structure behind all true innovation

[Anonymous No.20364049]

>>20363068
Yeah.
You see that cute little tree? Throw it out the window and start thinking with your own fucking mind.