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What are the best editions of the Iliad and the Odyssey?

>> No.2027781
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The .mobi edition

>> No.2027795

bump for interest.

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the homeric greek edition

>> No.2027804

If you haven't heard the epic straight from Homer's mouth, you don't know jack shit about the Odyssey.

Wanna fuck?

>> No.2027807

Fagels or Fitzgerald, OP.

>> No.2027815

>>2027807
>Fagels or Fitzgerald

Both terrible. try Lattimore

>> No.2027817

>>2027815
I wouldn't say the others are terrible, exactly, but I will second your recommendation: Lattimore, Lattimore, Lattimore.

>> No.2027825

It depends.

Lattimore is the closest to the original Greek, which is a masterpiece.
Fagles is less literal, but much more approachable without losing the flavor of the epic.

If you're reading Homer for the first time, go with Fagles. If you're actually interested in Classical studies as a long term hobby, go with Lattimore.

>> No.2027861

lombardo, you fags

>> No.2027862

Why is /lit/ so obsessed with the Iliad and the Odyssey?

The Aeneid is far superior, but I've never seen /lit/ discuss it.

>> No.2027894

>>2027862
because nobody has read that

>> No.2027908

>>2027862
>Aeneid better than Iliad or Odyssey
costanza.jpg

>> No.2027947

>>2027862
I'm reading it currently.
Book 5 so can't judge much.
For now it feels less epic than Homer, more realistic and also a bit less interesting. Though I liked the part where he fights in Troy, and when he forsakes the poor, poisoned Dido. Characters are deeper but I hope the gods play a bigger role later on for they seem quite shallow for now.
But surely it will get more interesting when they reach Italy. Enough sailing already.

>> No.2027961

>>2027825

But what is the best free edition? Or better, where can I get free copies of these fine translations?

>> No.2028042

>>2027961
I got Lattimore's Iliad there
http://digital.library.northwestern.edu/homer/html/application.html
I made a txt of it for my ereader if you want:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F5ROGVA8

Lattimore:
SING, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilleus
and its devastation, which put pains thousandfold upon the Achaians,
hurled in their multitudes to the house of Hades strong souls
of heroes, but gave their bodies to be the delicate feasting
of dogs, of all birds, and the will of Zeus was accomplished
since that time when first there stood in division of conflict
Atreus' son the lord of men and brilliant Achilleus.

Fagles:
Rage — Goddess, sing the rage of Peleus’ son Achilles,
murderous, doomed, that cost the Achaeans countless losses,
hurling down to the House of Death so many sturdy souls,
great fighters’ souls, but made their bodies carrion,
feasts for the dogs and birds,
and the will of Zeus was moving toward its end.
Begin, Muse, when the two first broke and clashed,
Agamemnon lord of men and brilliant Achilles. . . .

Fitzgerald:
Anger be now your song, immortal one,
Akhilleus’ anger, doomed and ruinous,
that caused the Akhaians loss on bitter loss
and crowded brave souls into the undergloom,
leaving so many dead men — carrion
for dogs and birds; and the will of Zeus was done.
Begin it when the two men first contending
broke with one another —
the Lord Marshal
Agamémnon, Atreus’ son, and Prince Akhilleus

http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/homer.htm

>> No.2028186

>>2028042

Thanks bro.

>> No.2028192

FAGLES

GET FAGLES OR FUCK YOU

>> No.2028354

Go Augustus Taber Murray, or go home.

>>2028042
The wrath sing, goddess, of Peleus' son, Achilles, that destructive wrath which brought countless woes upon the Achaeans, and sent forth to Hades many valiant souls of heroes, and made them themselves spoil for dogs and every bird; thus the plan of Zeus came to fulfillment, from the time when first they parted in strife Atreus' son, king of men, and brilliant Achilles.

http://www.theoi.com/Text/HomerIliad1.html

>> No.2028361

Unless you're 60+ years old, Lombardo. He's the shit.

>> No.2028364

>>2027799
They made us read that in high scool in ancient greek class. Shit sucked hard.

>> No.2028393

>>2028042
Sing, Goddess, Achilles' rage,
Black and murderous, that cost the Greeks
Incalculable pain, pitched countless souls
Of heroes into Hades' dark,
And left their bodies to rot as feasts
For dogs and birds, as Zeus' will was done.
Begin with the clash between Agamemnon—
The Greek warlord—and godlike Achilles.

Lombardo.