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I've heard people say this is one of the most important books of our time.
What do you think of it?

>> No.20255810

>>20255801
Politics related = waste of time

>> No.20255817
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>>20255801
>Jonah Goldberg
Cuckservative core. He does the lefts work for them by framing his politics according to the lefts categories. All he can do is screech "The left are the REAL racists! The right LOVES niggers" over and over because he accepts all the lefts presuppositions about how racism is the prime evil and that it's of prime importance that we're tolerant and accepting of all peoples and cultures. He'll never achieve anything because his only role is to act as a gatekeeper who tries to keep conservatism "respectable" by conceding absolutely every argument to the left while castigating those on his right.

>> No.20255818

>>20255810
This.
All ideology is cope for power. There, I finished politics.

>> No.20255822

>Jewish neocon accusing liberals of being the real racists
How about no lmfao

>> No.20255834

its true because we live in a post modernist world, all liberal media is centred around violence, sex and obscenity. Architecture is post modernist brutalism and utilitarianism.
The fascists won they just called themselves liberal.

>> No.20255843

>>20255834
Nice b8

>> No.20255852

>>20255834
>Architecture is post modernist brutalism and utilitarianism
If only, man...

>> No.20255863

In the 1930s, avant-garde artists shocked the bourgeoisie with their aesthetic theories that glorified violence and the release of primitive emotions. Today, if you like examples of early fascist aesthetics, simply go to the latest Hollywood blockbuster, turn on MTV, or go to a rap concert. Here you will see realized the fascists’ artistic ideals: pleasure from violence; the thrill of moral rebellion; the cult of the body. The grisly blood-letting of a slasher movie; the body-builder who takes the law into his own hands by machine-gunning his enemies; the masses of teenagers slam-dancing as Metallica sings `Scream, as I’m killing you!’—such art is the quintessence of the fascist aesthetic.

>> No.20255874

FDR was a fascist...lol

>> No.20255964

>>20255863
lol. lmao

>> No.20256546

>>20255801
1: author is Jewish
2: book in new York best seller list


Given these two facts it’s almost certainly propaganda to discredit the right and bolster leftist retardism.

>> No.20256600

Horrendous title
Fascism is a center left ideology, it has nothing to do with the putrid soul poison that is Liberalism.

>> No.20256612

>>20255810
ultra based

>> No.20256619

>>20255801
>liberal fascism
>Goldberg
No thanks

>> No.20256621

>>20255801

It's decent if taken as a revisionist history, as a supplement to regular histories. Many of the people who read it did not read the regular history. Did that moderate the right's authoritarian impulses anyway or just teach the right to call everything Hitler? Hard to say.

>>20255817

Didn't read the book

>> No.20256628
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20256628

Losurdo already wrote a far more rigorous version of this back in 2005.

>> No.20256657 [DELETED] 

>>20256628
Domenico Losurdo also wrote what seems to be a fairly definitive text (Nietzsche, the Aristocratic Rebel) arguing that Nietzsche really was a precursor to fascism which really was reactionary. I'm still reading it though. I'm a right-winger though so I find it funny that he's writing these seemingly moralizing works while cheering on Stalin, Milosevic, Ceausescu, etc. funny. He would be a Z shill if he was still alive today kek

>> No.20256658

>>20255801
>What do you think of it?
I don't know, I haven't read it.

>> No.20256665

>>20256657
Domenico Losurdo also wrote what seems to be a fairly definitive text (Nietzsche, the Aristocratic Rebel) arguing that Nietzsche really was a precursor to fascism which really was reactionary. I'm still reading it though. I'm a right-liberal so I find it a bit funny that he's writing these seemingly moralizing works while cheering on Stalin, Milosevic, Ceausescu, etc. He would be a full-on Z shill if he was still alive today kek

>> No.20256666

>>20255817
>wrote all of this after simply reading the title

Incel moment.

>> No.20256684

>>20255801
I really really hate americans, especially """conservatives""".

>> No.20256697

>>20256666
The man has a reputation

>> No.20256713

>>20255801
>goldberg
>ackhually it is fascism goys
keep telling them the solution is equal to the problem, rabbi
its not like i care at this point
the negroids gonna have their fun with you guys once we re gone for good
good luck cocksuckers

>> No.20256897

>>20255801
>Goldberg
>muh left = fascists
Ignored.

>> No.20256916
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20256916

I liked it, but didn't finish

>> No.20256974
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20256974

heh so much for the tolerant left
no but seriously I hate them

>> No.20256993

His angle is probably partisan Republican, so maybe his argument is a bit off, but it’s obviously true that the liberal Democrats were the rightwing party in America and very racist, and it is true now that the Democrats in high office are to the right of Reagan and shoveling money into Ukrainian Nazis right now.
Liberalism isn’t leftism. As odd as it may seem to your senses liberalism is closer to fascism than communism.

>> No.20257011

>>20256974
>the tolerant left
That’s a different group. They’re actually socialists, but have been herded into the Democratic party.
Are you the intolerant right? You celebrate Hitler’s birthday? You’re on their side. Had your fifth booster yet?

>> No.20257016

>>20256993
lmao fuck putler

>> No.20257033
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>>20256993
Everyone in the US was "racist" until like the 1930s at the earliest, more like the 1960s. The Democrats were simply the party of the South for a long time.

>> No.20257044

>>20256665
>I find it a bit funny that he's writing these seemingly moralizing works
He's not, he's simply constructing an accurate genealogy of bourgeoisie ideology.

>> No.20257048

>>20257033
No.
And the south was especially worse.

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>>20257033
nice scarequotes chud

>> No.20257080

>>20257044
Sure but I think it's disingenuous to claim that a sense of moral outrage isn't what initially draws many to Communism.

>>20257048
I wouldn't be so sure about the South being especially bad - a lot of blacks even today claim they've felt more discriminated against in Boston than in Alabama. Literally every year there's some kind of row over Boston sports fans calling other teams' players niggers.

>> No.20257085

>>20257080
lol

>> No.20257112

It's the suede-denim secret police!

>> No.20257154

>>20257080
>Literally every year there's some kind of row over Boston sports fans calling other teams' players niggers.
I wonder why. It's truly a mystery.

>> No.20257164

>>20257011
Can you retards speak coherently for once?