/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20252517]

I am convinced that only women and retards actually write in their books. Most reasonable and intelligent people realize that it is perfectly sufficient to use a separate notebook to write down your thoughts. Case in point: the mouthbreather who previously owned the copy of Faulkner's short stories that I just bought

[Anonymous No.20252537]

more commentary from our friend the retard
also, the fact that he/she wrote this in pen provides more evidence for the fact that this person was not very intelligent

[Sage No.20252544]

>>20252517
Agreed op, the only notes I've found are CLEARLY by women or grad students struggling with the text; the struggle I can appreciate, the anti-witticisms of spiritual niggers I cannot. I write all notes and quotes in a separate notebook, if only for cleanliness.

[Anonymous No.20252549]

it'd be ok if i could at least understand the writing

[Anonymous No.20252557]

Also, my copy of the Odyssey came with the previous owner's notes as well. However, judging by the handwriting and the nature of these annotations, I have deduced that the previous owner was, in fact, a girl, with there being a very high possibility that it might have, indeed, been a *cute* girl. You can never tell with these kinds of things however

[Anonymous No.20252563]

>>20252517
They both (retards and women) don't have respect for the books, we should exterminate them all.
Nah I was joking just the retards until we can make lots of quality babies without women

[Anonymous No.20252575]

As cute as she might have been, alas, she was still a midwit

[Anonymous No.20252580]

Why do you take notes when reading books? If you can't internalize it in one go then it's not a match for your soul

[Sage No.20252591]

>>20252580
Notes in fiction seem superfluous, but notes in serious works seem, at the lease excusable. I wouldn't judge the scribblings and doodles of students too harshly, but lit majors get the stake.

[Anti-Sage No.20252596]

>>20252544
>>20252591
>Sage
Not a tripfag I swear

[Anonymous No.20252606]

>>20252517
I like having notes directly in the book but I write on a sticky note and then put that on the page
writing on the book itself is fucked up

[Anonymous No.20252607]

>>20252517

Looks like Newton was retarded

[Anonymous No.20252614]

>>20252607
he was insane. minor difference

[Anonymous No.20252618]

>>20252607
He was a virgin. That's even worse.

[Anonymous No.20252619]

>>20252614
With handwriting like that I'd tend to agree

[Anonymous No.20252627]

>>20252607
and so was David Foster Wallace, and Vladimir Nabokov...

[Anonymous No.20252643]

>>20252607

And Melville

[Anonymous No.20252666]

>>20252643
KEK

[Anonymous No.20252674]

>>20252643
Melvillebros....is it over?

[Anonymous No.20252692]

>>20252557
>tfw my complete shakespeare is written in
>she's a complete midwit, the ace in field for annoying 'educated' young feminist
>eyes instantly dart to her writing
>constantly writing how misogynistic everything is
HELP

[Anonymous No.20252710]

>>20252692
There is only one final solution

[Anonymous No.20252711]

All the annotations I've come across in used books myself are baffling, like "Why did they even write this?" type remarks. But the act of annotating itself isn't the problem. Most people are simply reading at a low level compared to someone more skilled, so their observations will be mundane and immediate reactions to whatever's on the page. You'll find that a very small fraction of humans, like less than 10%, can actually do analysis. The other 90% merely summarize.

[Anonymous No.20252725]

>>20252607

And Keats

[Anonymous No.20252762]

>>20252607

This is Coleridge. Here's what he wrote:

This Play, which is Shakespeare’s throughout, is to me the most painful, say rather the only painful part of his genuine works. The comic and tragic parts equally border on the wanton, the one disgusting, the other horrible; and the pardon and marriage of Angelo not merely baffles the strong indignant claim of Justice (for cruelty, with lust and damnable Baseness, cannot be forgiven, because we cannot conceive them as being morally repented of) but it is likewise degrading to the character of Woman. Beaumont and Fletcher, who can follow Shakespeare in his errors only, have presented a still worse, because more loathsome and contradictory instance of the same kind in his Night-Walker, in the marriage of Alathe to Algripe. Of the counterbalancing Beauties of to Measure for Measure, I need say nothing; for I have already said, that it is Shakespeare’s throughout. S. T. Coleridge

[Anonymous No.20252776]

There's nothing inherently wrong with taking notes in the margins of a book you own, but I can understand shitting on people (typically women) who write nothing of value in their books

[Anonymous No.20254316]

>>20252575
My handwritting is better than that and I'm male.

[Anonymous No.20254339]

My stance has always been the same. Smart and respectable people may write in their books, but I consider it uncouth or wrong to ruin a perfectly good book with your own text. The page is designed for only the author's text, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.20254360]

>>20254339
Especially if it's an expensive hardback. Literally defacing your own property

[Anonymous No.20254516]

>>20252517
Scribbling annotations on a borrowed book is one of the most inconsiderate things a person can do.
Most annotations are written primarily for the sake of assisting the vandal in some sort of external objective. Like an exam, a literary critique, or an essay (god forbid a comparative one). By the vary nature of being external, all of said annotations are extremely susceptible to either personal bias, begging the question, or indiscriminate emphasis inappropriate to anybody other than the vandal themselves. Most of the time it's all three.

The only exceptions are summary-type annotations, in which case it still takes a whole lot of insolence to
1. assume that your summary points are all correct and comprehensive, and
2. assume that your summary points are actually nontrivial enough to explicitly state by deliberately vandalizing the book.
Not to mention preventing any and all future annotations from ever being written in those same spaces (a common consequence of writing with a pen).

How the hell could someone ever justify doing this shit?
Same type of shitty people who piss all over the toilet seat in public bathrooms. Those people aren't even that bad in comparison, because at least the piss isn't permanent and can be wiped off.
Not so with annotations.

[Anonymous No.20254527]

>>20252517
>not keeping your notes in your head
ngmi

[Anonymous No.20254536]

>>20252517
Get out of my board

[Anonymous No.20254557]

I used to dissect texts with annotations, paragraph by paragraph. But now I just underline good prose when I find it.

[Anonymous No.20254575]

Every time I see a word I don't understand I rip out the page and flush it down the toilet

[Anonymous No.20254584]

>>20252710
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.20254758]

>>20252517
>>20252537
>>20252557
>>20252575
This girl is retarded. Straight men are dellusional

[Anonymous No.20254782]

>>20252517
>>20252537
>>20252557
>>20252575
Seriously stop this shit dude

[Anonymous No.20254789]

I write down notes for whatever I'm reading in an unruled hardback notebook, along with outlines for my writing project and sketches.

It's way better than being a retard sullying the books you're reading and is also a way more intuitive way of tracking your intellectual growth and what you were thinking at a certain times and how your curiosity/thought has subtly changed. from month to month/year to year.

[Anonymous No.20254844]

>>20252517
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All three of my romance novels flopped Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:22:09 No.20252862▶>>20252871 >>20252912 >>20252961 >>20253180 >>20253185 >>20253203 >>20253219 >>20254711 >>20254724 >>20254731 >>20254740 >>20254742
>friend is a romance author
>made $100,000 last year
>decide to become a romance author myself
>challenging and time consuming
>work 3 months straight
>my books totally flop.

I am currently trying to do a fourth but it is seeming very futile at this stage. How do I write romance in a way that middle aged normie women, and gays appreciate?
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:23:51 No.20252871▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
>How do I write romance in a way that middle aged normie women, and gays appreciate?
You have to pick one, it's impossible to appeal to both in significant numbers
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:24:46 No.20252877▶
Write a book about a handsome gay man who gets seduced by an aged hagraven.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:31:06 No.20252899▶
What's your friend's name? I'm genuinely curious to read their work now kek.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:32:54 No.20252912▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
Women love rape and someone to take care of them. Also pirates

Gay men are like men and they like physical things
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:40:11 No.20252944▶
Just get the bestsellers, distill their formula and archetypes and just fill the rest for your books. Don't tell me you're actually trying to make up shit.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)08:43:42 No.20252961▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
It's all about marketing and not how you write.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)09:45:18 No.20253180▶>>20253220 >>20254726
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>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
>How do I write romance in a way that middle aged normie women, and gays appreciate?
Write abusive smut. That's what holes like. Arrogant bullies who are also tall, muscular, rich, and for some reason obsessed with them even though they're mediocre females.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)09:46:40 No.20253185▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
are you using a female pseudonym? if not, use it.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)09:51:26 No.20253203▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
Maybe you're a shit writer.
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)09:54:36 No.20253219▶
>>20252862 (OP) (OP)
Why did you post a picture of a convicted child molester. What kind of romances are you writing?
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Anonymous 04/21/22(Thu)09:55:15 No.20253220▶
>>20253180
This.

[Anonymous No.20255410]

>>20252517
Man FUCK I read How To Read because I'm a bumbling retard and decided to try out some of its advice on my copy of Brother's Karamazov like a bumbling retard and now like 1/16 of the book is covered in highlighter and I regret it immensely I THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP ME LEARN SHIT OR SOMETHING!! Now I used a notebook, of course

[Anonymous No.20255428]

>>20254782
It's phoneposting, images get flipped 90 degrees sometimes for no reason

[Anonymous No.20255453]

>>20255428
it is better this way, you should do it every fucking time, seriously

[Anonymous No.20255505]

Why is why I only buy new books.

Just the idea of using a used book with notes and underlined sentences makes me feel… dirty. Its just like fucking a woman who isnt virgin. Someone already soiled the text and your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.20257135]

>>20252517
My ex-gf lent me her copy of the Book of Mormon while we were dating. It was chock-full with notes and cringy shit like "You go, Zebediah!" and weird comments directly addressing the characters as if they were real people
Didn't even give it a quick read. Just closed it and told her I read a little

[Anonymous No.20257212]

>>20252711
Summary is a part of analysis

[Anonymous No.20257226]

>>20257212
That's why he qualified it with "merely."

[Anonymous No.20257287]

>>20252557
>BAPTISM OMG
What's the term for this? Looking for some secret meaning and symbolism where there are none.

He's getting fucked with because Poisedon is pissed he stabbed his son in the eye, I don't think Homer is trying to say much more than that

[Anonymous No.20258450]

>>20252563
gay

[Anonymous No.20258467]

The only intelligent readers are those who read with pen in hand

Cope faggot

[Anonymous No.20258810]

>>20252549
(this is never the case)

[Anonymous No.20258860]

i consider writing in books to be a collaborative artistic endeavor between the author and student (myself). books are not sacrosanct - they are meant to be used and their knowledge absorbed. i am for scribbling in margins, highlighting, ripping out pages, and all other forms of 'destruction'. it shows true dedication and a passion for the text

[Anonymous No.20258862]

>>20257287
It's not a connection of one concept (Odysseus fucked with Poseidon) to another concept (Christian baptism) as though the former were a symbol for the latter, but the recognition that the two emerge from the same process - an intense event affecting a subject so that the subject post-affection is distinct from the subject pre-affection.

[Anonymous No.20258933]

>>20258862
But there's nothing distinct about Odysseus before and after that event except he's covered in brine

[Anonymous No.20259652]

you should see my mein kampf booknotes

[Anonymous No.20259654]

>>20255505
patrician af
have a (You)

[Anonymous No.20260208]

>>20258810
unfortunately

[Anonymous No.20260216]

>>20255505
your thoughts are already soiled by reading

[Anonymous No.20260229]

I'm writing in my Greek copy of the Odyssey to make notes for later. There are scribes that write commentaries in the margins of manuscripts. This is called marginalia.

[Anonymous No.20260236]

>>20252517
NOBODY TELL OP ABOUT BALZAC, he won't survive the news

[Anonymous No.20260243]

>>20252517
I have written in my own books, I don't anymore. What really gets me is how many of my university's library books have writing inside them. You basically can't find one that doesn't.

[Anonymous No.20260245]

really it's not that hard bro. let me spell it out for you:

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[Anonymous No.20260538]

>>20258467
Says the guy with a shelf full of books featuring scribbles of cocks.

[Anonymous No.20260562]

>>20252517
this counts for a thread?
holy jesus people

[Anonymous No.20260601]

>>20260245
fucking wizard

[Anonymous No.20261076]

>>20252517
The only argument for not writing in your books is commodity fetishism at best. that being said I generally do not buy, nor would I sell, any books with writing in them. I would not subject anyone to the sight of my terribly scrawled notes, underlines and brackets.

[Anonymous No.20261127]

>>20258860
I agree except I wouldn't use the word 'destruction'. Maybe 'consumption'. However, why the fuck are you ripping pages out?

[Anonymous No.20261165]

I did notes and annotated marginalia

[Anonymous No.20261191]

>>20258860
Destruction is love

I’ve begun reading a lot more since I stopped respecting books and their “purity” like a pussy

[Anonymous No.20261271]

>>20261165
>marginalia
You sound like you both enjoy, and are good at, having your arsehole thoroughly fucked, hard.

[Anonymous No.20261477]

>>20259652
Post em up bru

[Anonymous No.20263143]

>>20252517
I don't know why you'd write in a book that you plan to donate or sell.
I've written notes in the first few pages of a book with the title and copyright and stuff, but never on the pages of writing themselves. Feels wrong.

[Anonymous No.20263174]

>>20252607 (et al.)
If you're going to write in a book, in pen, you'd better be damn sure that you're adding something of value.
>>20252627
Also DFW doesn't count as a normal example of anything.

[Anonymous No.20263200]

>>20261076
>I would not subject anyone to the sight of my terribly scrawled notes, underlines and brackets.
So unless you are having all of your books buried with you, you just created a great argument against writing in books besides "commodity fetishism".

[Anonymous No.20263221]

I used both in university. Notes on the page for highlighting key sections or small observations, then a notebook for stuff I'd want to further research for my essays.

[Anonymous No.20263249]

>>20257135
Ok but this one is extremely soulful.

[Anonymous No.20263255]

>>20263249
Women don't have souls. Nice try.

[Anonymous No.20263414]

why are the notes in secondhand books always so brain dead?

[Anonymous No.20263876]

If I like the book I buy two copies. One to write in and one to read. I only read nonfiction though would never write in a fiction book.

[Anonymous No.20263946]

>>20252517
>>20252537
>>20252557
>>20252575
Jej. I’ve noticed in a lot of used books I get these sort of notes stop within the first half once the brainlets writing them stop reading or get filtered.

I just dog ear the bottom corner of the page if I think it’s something I’ll come back to later. In college I used to do this, though, thinking I was an epic intellectual. My copy of Capital is filled with these painfully cringe and useless notes I made in it when I was 19. These types of notes mostly come from adolescents writing to an imaginary audience, because writing something like “oh fugg :DD” in the margins obviously serves no purpose beyond this.