So this time, Houellebecq's prophecy was wrong

[Anonymous No.20244528]

In his 2015 novel 'Submission', he said that a Muslim party will win the 2022 French elections. Well, that never happened, and the election is between these guys.

[Anonymous No.20244530]

>>20244528
The only relevant EU country is Germany, every other nation is a vassal state.

Frogs haven't been relevant since DeGaulle.

[Anonymous No.20244534]

>>20244528
i want those thighs to crush my larynx

[Anonymous No.20244535]

>>20244530
the future is Grüne

[Anonymous No.20244759]

>neoliberal vs neoliberal
wow how exciting

[Anonymous No.20244798]

>>20244528
yeah these people are never good at predicting the future

[Anonymous No.20244812]

>>20244528
I wonder what the numbers would look like if you subtracted Muslim voters

[Anonymous No.20244818]

>Republic on the Move
Do Frogs really...?

[Anonymous No.20244827]

>>20244528
imagine actually thinking a politically "divisive" figure like Le Pen will EVER win

[Anonymous No.20244832]

It’s almost as if it wasn’t a prediction. Plus frogs will vote a potted plant over Le Pen.

[Anonymous No.20244842]

>>20244528
The only retard here is you, for thinking Houellebecq was "predicting the future" with Soumission.

[Anonymous No.20244845]

>>20244528
In what way was Submission supposed to prophetic? It was a hypothetical scenario

[Anonymous No.20244851]

LePen bros, c’était son tour...

[Anonymous No.20244900]

>if you write a novel set in the future you're making prophecies

[Anonymous No.20244931]

>>20244842
>>20244845
>>20244900
He has made accurate prophecies in the past.
Cope, maybe in 10 years he's proven right but in in 2022 like his book says.

[Anonymous No.20245103]

>>20244827
Since Brexit and Trump, anything seems possible.

[Anonymous No.20245135]

>>20244528
Amazing how France wants neither.
Neoliberalism isn’t democratic

[Anonymous No.20245147]

>>20244528
In aneantir he alludes to Macron winning this one. We’ll see

[Anonymous No.20245151]

>>20244812
If there were no Muslim voters you probably wouldn't have a Le Pen situation.

[Anonymous No.20245152]

>no Zemmour
don't care

[Anonymous No.20245153]

>>20245135
>Neoliberalism isn’t democratic
Lol yes it is. It's completely enabled by the modern democratic process. Are you daft?

[Anonymous No.20245154]

>>20244528
why does macron seem like he has a jewish hat? kek

[Anonymous No.20245166]

>>20245153
He probably implies that it eventually culls its competition through populist means.

[Anonymous No.20245172]

>>20244528
don't want to hijack the thread too too much but i don't think this deserves its own thread
never read anything by houellebecq but i've heard he's a disgusting french sex pervert which convinced me to order a copy of serotonin. when it got here, it was coated in some weird white sticky stuff, not unalike jizz. i exchanged it for another copy and it came back the same way. is this intentional??

[Anonymous No.20245174]

>>20244818
it's actually worse... la république en marche !. and yes, the exclamation mark is meant to be there.

[Anonymous No.20245178]

>>20244528
>he said that a Muslim party will win the 2022 French elections.
that wasn't a genuine prediction it was a springboard for the premise

[Anonymous No.20245180]

>>20245172
yea, that's how he signs his books. you're lucky you got a rare signed edition.

[Anonymous No.20245188]

>>20245103
Will never happen again because of brexit and trump, not the other way around

[Anonymous No.20245191]

>>20245147
Wellbeck is the next French president.

[Anonymous No.20245236]

>>20244528
Submission isnt trying to predict shit, holy fuck

[Anonymous No.20245242]

>>20244528
Macron is the muslim party. Anything less than an aggressive reversal of the current policies is just delaying the inevitable.

[Anonymous No.20245252]

>>20245166
That isn't how it works either. It culls opposition through back channels and in that way is undemocratic but it totally relies on a democratic system for legitimacy.

[Anonymous No.20245432]

>>20245252
THAT ISN'T DEMOCRATIC
VOTING FOR WHO THE ELITES WANT ISN'T DEMOCRACY.

[Anonymous No.20245449]

It's close enough that Le Pen could still spring the upset. There's a week to go.

[Anonymous No.20245464]

>>20245154
Kek

[Anonymous No.20245493]

>>20244827
She's leading the polls. Scared yet?

[Anonymous No.20245497]

>>20245178
This. It felt like more of a thought experiment than a genuine attempt at trying to predict the future.

[Anonymous No.20245499]

>>20245493
source?

[Anonymous No.20245500]

Le Pen's base consists of people who don't vote, while Macron's consists of people who do.

[Anonymous No.20245502]

>>20245500
very deep

[Anonymous No.20245504]

>>20245499
Check the thread on /pol/

[Anonymous No.20245508]

I'm halfway through Submission and right when he starts talking politics the quality noticeably dips. Is this how the rest of the book is?

[Anonymous No.20245513]

Why did Zemmour flop? Was it just because of NATO skepticism falling out of favor after the Ukraine invasion?

[Anonymous No.20245598]

>>20245513
officially it is when the media started saying he supported russia in the past, then he said his view was wrong, but it was too late

the communist mélanchon said the same thing about russia, but his audience is just super poor people, muslisms, and middle women. who are all fucked up in the head so they dont give a shit and they have no critical thinking in the first place


Lepen said the thing about russia, but she managed to shut the fuck up, so she lost less points.
So far lepen is just controlled opposition and the useful idiot to win easily an election and she does not want to win.she has a comfort zone and is happy with this. Well at least so far. Perhaps hse gets tired to be a strawman. But the more she talks the more moronic she appears. And of course all the media being leftist, they started the propaganda for Macron a few hours after the first run lol


>>20245242
yeah but it's too late. all of this should have been done in the 90s. The french bureaucrats are 2 generations late, as usual.
You have to understand that france has always been leftist, the right in france is really not that on the right
And the secular republics were invented by the merkantilist revolutionaries and after they booted off the monarchists, they made up the fake dichotomy left-right to give the plebs the appearance of an alternative. But there is not: the general framework is still a secular republic run by the same people no matter whether its president is left or right lol.

[Anonymous No.20245628]

>>20245432
Sure it is. Those lemmings voted for the candidates. Culpable. Democracy is inherently flawed and will always produce these results unless you have a self-contained city-state situation like ancient Athens but even then it was an oligarchy of sorts. Stop fetishizing democracy.

[Anonymous No.20245649]

>>20245628
>It’s like when people vote their dollars into the Cocacola company every time they buy a coke
That’s voting. Not democracy.

And a small fraction of Athenians participated in their democracy.

[Anonymous No.20245653]

>your cunt
>for which candidate you would have voted

[Anonymous No.20245656]

>>20244827
>politically divisive
More like the cucks deliberately do everything they can to sabotage her. Even the "conservative" parties say they will refuse to work with her and give power to the left if they ever need to choose

[Anonymous No.20245658]

>>20245649
Not a great analogy. Let's stick to the topic at hand. Did millions of people not willingly cast their vote for the candidates in the elections? In the primaries? Is that not democracy? Just because their choices align with those of "the elites" doesn't make it undemocratic. Sorry you didn't like the outcome. Majority rules.

[Anonymous No.20245746]

Is it worth reading? The only Nabby book I've read is Lolita. Am I ready for Ada? I've heard it's his hardest book.

[Anonymous No.20245781]

>>20245658
The topic is over

[Anonymous No.20245787]

>>20245781
Would you say you consneed?

[Anonymous No.20245825]

>>20244530
Funny you say that Germoney is a vassal state to US and a factory rather than a state at that since wwii.

[Anonymous No.20245833]

>>20245787
“Western Democracy” is what they call it now. They’re kind of ashamed of what they’re doing, though not sorry. Your efforts are just a lawyer’s spin. You get no concession.

[Anonymous No.20246442]

>>20244530
Germany is the biggest vassal state of all. Germany might be less economically and geopolitically insignificant than other EU states but Germany is 100% an american vassal state itself. There even is a document showing how the western allies have reserved for themselves the supreme command of all german media up until 50 something years from now.