/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20237180]

this book sucks. angry edgelord cries over brown people and gay people existing, the horror. for spoiled upper-middle class nipsters that can't accept reality

[Anonymous No.20237267]

>>20237180
The book is about how we as a society have forgotten what intrusive thoughts and daydreams are, so we readily accept that the un-reality people impose on themselves (aka 'worldview') is oftentimes a coping mechanism disguised as ideology.

He does not care about minorities. He cares that too many people pretend to care about them. Similarly, he does not see an issue with queerness. He believes that applying queer rhetoric onto otherwise not queer things (such as nihilism) is more indicative of societal collapse than anything which scripture could have hinted to.

The joke is that the lower-middle class and the upper-middle class both hate themselves, because they are the most ingrained into the faux-caste structure we currently inhabit. So, to an extent, this kind of writing could only come from either a poor, disiillusioned midwesterner or a psycho "in-his-head" yuppie with way too much time on his hands.

[Anonymous No.20237279]

>>20237267
No one cares. Mike Ma is a tranny loser who cannot write to save his life nor his transition

[Anonymous No.20237288]

>this book sucks. angry edgelord cries over brown people and gay people existing, the horror. for spoiled upper-middle class nipsters that can't accept reality

[Anonymous No.20237292]

>>20237279
He's literally just a blonde guy from New Jersey.

[Anonymous No.20237294]

>>20237292
Hey, Ms. Ma, how is spamming your shit book going today?

[Anonymous No.20237346]

>>20237180
I thought it was cool and funny at times.

[Anonymous No.20237359]

She is the whore of the Jews

[Anonymous No.20237477]

>>20237359
Twitter is wondering whether Mike and Milo Yiannopoulos slept together, what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.20237504]

>>20237180
Why do you have a compulsion to defend niggers and homosexuals

[Anonymous No.20237509]

>>20237180
So which one are you? Gay or brown? Or is it both?

[Anonymous No.20237668]

Thanks for the book recommendation.

[Anonymous No.20237694]

>>20237180
What did you expect when you started reading? Gay brown poor people?

[Anonymous No.20237794]

>>20237694
Keep crying Michelle!

[Anonymous No.20237842]

>>20237180
Sounds great, will definitely add to my reading list.

[Anonymous No.20238190]

In case you haven't noticed yet nazism is a predominantly homosexual exploration

[Anonymous No.20238192]

>>20237180
God forbid a people have any say over their country's immigration policy. Think of the profits!

[Anonymous No.20238203]

>>20237180
This is an incredible book, you need to understand that people have different POVs. Its literally the opposite of edgy.

[Anonymous No.20238205]

>>20237180
is a nipster supposed to be a nigger-hipster or what?

[Anonymous No.20238387]

Just read the first couple chapters and it seems pretty good to me, anon. Its got some quotable lines and the protagonist is refreshingly insightful, if a bit overly-cynical. I’ll be reading the rest of it tonight, thanks for the recommendation

[Anonymous No.20238411]

>>20237794
I hate brown and gay people more than you can imagine, and I didn't read this book because I know it's a false flag and it sucks besides. YOU read it, knowing you hate what it ostensibly stands for, and now you're mad.

[Anonymous No.20238442]

>>20238411
>I hate brown and gay people more than you can imagine
grow up

[Anonymous No.20238499]

I distrust all teetotalers who are not ex-alcoholics. They're crypto Muslims.

[Anonymous No.20238568]

>>20238442
make me

[Anonymous No.20238841]

>>20238442
Learning to hate your enemies, those who destroy your society, is part of growing up. It's a rite of initiation into the real world of the political.

[Anonymous No.20238851]

>>20238841
Tf you talking about?

[Anonymous No.20238913]

Mike’s circle is full of irrationally enraged repressors, here’s the Patreon interview guy getting mad about a lingerie ad for men

[Anonymous No.20238943]

>>20238841
Conservatism is the default NPC ideology.

[Anonymous No.20239140]

You guys... is she trolling us? Look at the 0:17 mark of this video from today:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcdbxPvMixj/?hl=en

“You’ve gotta do some things that you’ve never done before.” Indeed Michelle. Just transition already! We know you lurk here.

[Anonymous No.20239155]

>>20238943
conservatives love niggers

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>>20238913
here's some random faggot getting mad about a guy on the internet

[Anonymous No.20239164]

Are there any philosophical studies on white knights in western culture?

[Anonymous No.20239321]

I just realised I don't have any copies of the Mike Ma books. They aren't on libgen either (pdf, sure, but nothing good for an ereader). Anyone got an epub or something of these books?

[Anonymous No.20239889]

>>20239164
>>20239164
I don’t know, but I’m 1000% a white knight for Michelle Mahoney. I want to suck her soft girlcock while her cute black haired friend jerks off on her face. Thanks for listening to my beautiful dark twisted fantasy

[Anonymous No.20239970]

>>20238841
Society was made by gays

[Anonymous No.20240671]

Can someone post a link to download a pdf or the audiobook for gothic violence?

[Anonymous No.20240852]

>>20240671
It's on z-lib!

[Anonymous No.20240872]

>>20239321
was wanting this as well

[Anonymous No.20240984]

>>20239970
>Men who have no desire to be near women have accomplished great feats
Color me shocked

[Anonymous No.20241112]

>>20237267
This book is about <insert armchair psychology> therefore ban gays (note to self - add words to obfuscate solution). At what point did the alt right descend into inane psycho babble as opposed to angry rants?

[Anonymous No.20241121]

>>20238841
Conviction is the most dangerous for to truth. Spend less time on pol.

[Anonymous No.20241126]

>>20239970
Really smart people tend to be more curious, more willing to question social norms, and more likely to follow through on it. "Being gay" has taken on such a ridiculous significance lately. Really smart people tend to incidentally—due to the nature of their minds—be gay. It's not that gay people tend to be smart. There's absolutely no casual relationship there.

[Anonymous No.20242158]

>>20240852
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.20243235]

>>20237359
is this still behind a paywall ?

[Anonymous No.20243242]

Seems weird to me there's no epub or azw file on libgen.

[Anonymous No.20243357]

>>20243242
There's no digital version of it for sale, you need to buy the paperback.
It's dogshit, don't bother.
t. rightwinger

[Anonymous No.20243385]

This is the first book by this young artist and for what it is it’s amazing. Reminds me of the beginning of an art form, didn’t you know anon all art is Nazi now? Fascism is art. History and reality is fascism.
Saying a phrase like “kill all niggers and faggots” in 2022 is like saying “all cops are bastards” In 1999. It’s an abstraction and an affirmation of your commitment to art and intellectualism.

[Anonymous No.20243400]

>>20241112
The right are the inheritors of post-modernism. If being right wing is about conserving tradition as we move into race essentialism truth claims and gender assertions the right will continue to dabble further into abstraction and mysticism. Basically the left fucked up by abandoning free speech, art, and pre broadly the working class. We’ll recite Mike’s poetry to you while we hold down your girlfriend and rape her to death.

[Anonymous No.20243404]

>>20243357
that seems like a weird decision to make for a self-published author.

[Anonymous No.20243656]

>>20238841
Fucjing moron. They aren't the enemy, the enemy are the rich white lib dudes and more especially, their wives.

[Anonymous No.20243681]

>>20243656
I see you're a small picture kinda guy, anon.

[Anonymous No.20243691]

>>20243385

[Anonymous No.20243726]

>>20243656
>and more especially, their wives.

Based and Luxembourg-pilled.

[Anonymous No.20243760]

>>20237359
Basically Nico 2.0

[Anonymous No.20243863]

>>20243385
>History
History is a meme and has no basis in reality. What is true is archeology and ancestry. Documentation is easily manipulated, and the fool who trusts the accounts of men is of the King Fool's foolish court. Historical fact is an oxymoron.

[Anonymous No.20243879]

>>20237359
Long hair on men = tranny is one of the most regressive things I've ever seen. Men aren't allowed to grow out their hair?

[Anonymous No.20243893]

>>20243863
Couldn’t of proved my point more about the right inheriting post-modernism if you tried lmao. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.20244016]

>>20243893
Schizo? What are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.20244036]

>>20239162
Pot kettle

[Anonymous No.20244077]

>>20243879
Lol, go to hell. I have multiple cisgender male relatives with long (like waist length) hair and none of them radiate repressing troid vibes like Mahoney does. Besides, her entire music career is dedicated to expressing her tranny feelings.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkx3nOMtODI

>Wait for the sampled girl’s voice at the 0:12 mark to say, “Like - are these feeling even real?”

I actually return to her albums a lot, they’re quite good and a sincere expression of emotion. She should focus on the music more and stop writing shitty repression books.

Here are links to some of her other albums/songs if you’re interested

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fc74fjDtlbI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0j9Q_mF9Nac
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9s2P7vvPUF4&t=728s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwxch3-JJ40

[Anonymous No.20244112]

he's definitely an edgelord and some of his writing reminds me of what i thought would be cool when i was in my early 20s
but both books are undeniably interesting

[Anonymous No.20244118]

It was weird how he bragged about overhead pressing and then I saw his pics and he's DYEL. I still enjoy the audiobook version, Shazam's reading added to it

[Anonymous No.20244130]

>>20237180
You can’t tolerate fags, give them an inch they start screeching about how kids need to learn about queer sex

[Anonymous No.20244135]

>>20244077
Shut the fuck up faggot, no one cares. This isn’t discord or reddit.

[Anonymous No.20244154]

>>20244135
Lol, go jerk off to sissy hypno

[Anonymous No.20244286]

>>20244154
>this projection

The internet has rotted your brain. You’re sitting here writing multi paragraph analysis of troons when that time could be better spent chugging bleach.

[Anonymous No.20244297]

>>20237180
I dropped it after the first couple chapters, expecting it to be worse than it was (it read like Ernest Cline attempting to write American Psycho). Does it get better? Does anything actually happen?

[Anonymous No.20244321]

>>20244286
So you admit Mahoney is a troon.

[Anonymous No.20244331]

he has a talent for graphic design. the book covers and the the art and typography in the books is high quality and very aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.20244351]

>>20244016
Post modernism is defined as a rejection of taught history

[Anonymous No.20244364]

>>20244351
Nah, it's not. You've got a simplified view of it. Now go and read, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.20244372]

>>20237180
Why do I get the feeling its just the author making these threads?

[Anonymous No.20244382]

>>20244364
Faggot that’s literally what post modernism is, it’s skeptical of grand projects including academia and truth claims and especially it takes a more realistic view of history and takes into account that it’s won by and taught by its victors. You just don’t know what it is nigger.

[Anonymous No.20244383]

Is the fact that he only sells his books as paperbacks a statement? or simply an anti-piracy measure? do you think he makes more or less money by not selling digital copies?

[Anonymous No.20244487]

Just started reading Gothic Violence.

1. The artwork is really good. The cover is excellent as is the art and type inside the book.
2. The first page or so with the cackling witch, the tarot cards, the corpse paint and the dynamite is actually really good and makes it seem like something great is about to happen
3. the rest of it (so far) is really shit and rambling and self-important

It does seem like this guy is part of some sort of far right lit scene though that is going on, and I suppose that's cool, but it also seems very shallow, like the whole Tao Lin scene from ten years ago or so. If they could merge these fantastic aesthetics with some good writing, that may be worth something. I think the Brett Easton Ellis influence is just too strong in here and it totally fucks with the vibe. Like the absurd elements in this book are good, the witch and the executioner, but then there's pages of shitty namedropping in a nightclub and it's fucking boring. There's also really cringey sermonising type shit and that sucks too.

[Anonymous No.20244537]

>>20244321
I don't know who or what that is, and neither do I care, you eceleb worshiping zoomer

[Anonymous No.20244538]

>>20244077
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.20244554]

>>20237180
'Cause that's when you came to me
And you saved my life now
I was just a booooooy
When I knew you didn't need
But with you I swear it feels
JUST
LIKE
|HEAVEN

[Anonymous No.20244903]

>>20244487
Mike Ma is basically the Tao Lin of the 2020s. What that says about where our culture has gone in the intervening decade, I don’t know.

[Anonymous No.20244917]

>>20244554
JUST
LIKE
HEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

[Anonymous No.20244918]

>>20243893
Post-modernism has always been right-wing. Perspectivism and contingency revealing power relationships and the myths and violence that sustains reality. Pomos stumbled upon the law of struggle and the ethics of the tribe when their homotranny liberation movements were collapsing, both politically in the USSR and in their own minds. It was a burst of fire and irrationalism for them, the same burst that l*berals buck broke and standardized out of Germany earlier in the century.
The association of postmodernism with the Left is accidental, because Leftoids think tribal struggle logic is good when it is used to Amplify Black Voices and such. But all they've accomplished in this is to undermine their own intellectual history. This hasn't been discovered yet because they have institutional power, but that power is impossible to justify within the postmodern framework so they'll all soon turn to rehabilitating Christianity or something

[Anonymous No.20244950]

>>20244903
It says nothing. There are always these writers who are wholly swallowed up by their passion for ideology. They are all pale shades of Rand. Ideology is a very limiting topic to explore so repetition is inevitable for the genre.

I enjoy writers that find something interesting to say despite the presence of ideology. These writers are offering us little glimpses of freedom beyond the active/reactive dichotomy of the current and countercurrent. They express experiences of no large scale importance but are nonetheless deeply meaningful. They don't have to rely upon grandiosity or importance to sell you on the appeal of emulating their experiences.

[Anonymous No.20245120]

Obligatory Kurt Cobain cosplay post

[Anonymous No.20245304]

>>20244077
dude you're trying so hard, its honestly pretty sad. much better things to spend your time on.

[Anonymous No.20245440]

https://youtu.be/0j9Q_mF9Nac

good music

[Anonymous No.20246348]

>>20244918
>Post-modernism has always been right-wing.
This is very interesting, but I am of limited intelligence. Could you write your post again, but in English, doc?

[Anonymous No.20246389]

>>20238913
Hetero men get disgusted at gays as they do with maggots.

[Anonymous No.20246391]

>>20243879
No, look what happened to this guy

[Anonymous No.20246401]

>>20243863
>archeology
The field which pretends to be able to augur the societal structure and culture of ancients based on the placement of doors a-la feng shui? Give me a break.

[Anonymous No.20247597]

>>20237504
"With broke bucks you can fuck anytime you want"
I say I say I do declare I had me a good chuckle

[Anonymous No.20247739]

>>20237359
he actually looks like buffalo bill jej

[Anonymous No.20248870]

>>20237180
Yeah dude fuck society and brown people and women and everything 100% but this author is an annoying faggot, everything he writes is just a typical schizopost from the perspective of a spoiled bitch kid from the suburbs. I read this and Gothic Violence and they are both incoherent and lame as fuck.

[Anonymous No.20249389]

>>20246348
Post-modernism attempts to rehabilitate sources of knowledge and ways of interacting with the world that the Enlightenment destroyed. It represents a will not to perfect modernism as part of a progressive process, but to invert modernism. Challenge reason, challenge standardization, challenge Progress, challenge normativity in ethics. The problem is that all of these modernisms are what make liberal democratic societies possible, which is why I'm saying that Pomos are attacking their own tradition and history of victories because in the end they were disappointed. Capitalism stands.
That the inversion of modernism should lead to a re-discovery of taboo Rightist ways of thinking shouldn't be surprising. Pomos are/were constantly talking about Power, Identity, Struggle in the same salivating way the right does. Instead of "voices" we will hear "black voices". Instead of truth we hear "my truth". Instead of universality we have a patchwork world; politically and ethically (don't forget ethnically!). It doesn't take tremendous imagination to see that this is close to the perspective or premodern or almost pagan man: local, particularistic, proud, healthy, free and ready to struggle against enemy tribes not because they're wrong but because they aren't one's own. Oh yeah, you should also be smelling a lot of Nietzsche in this, and indeed many Leftoids cite him approvingly as part of their zany project. My contention is that the postmodernity they discovered was actually just premodernity the whole time, and they can't see it as such because there are no premoderns alive in the West, therefore premodernity looks novel and avant-garde
Imagine how liberating it would feel, as an aging Marxist professor in the 80s, to learn that the historical failure of your beloved world-historical system actually didn't indicate the apocalypse (because history is a meme) and it didn't indicate any theoretical problem with Marxism (because the capitalists just had more Power, they weren't actually right about anything). You have to understand postmodernism as an elite cultural coping mechanism for the failure of Marxism: an object of scorn not because it failed but because it lost. Ugh, like who ever believed in world-historical narratives anyway?

[Anonymous No.20249396]

>>20238943
No that would be social liberalism

[Anonymous No.20249399]

>>20241126
They also tend to be born into well off families

[Anonymous No.20249427]

>>20249389
This is tremendous, thank you.

[Anonymous No.20249429]

>>20238190
So it excites you, is what you're saying

[Anonymous No.20249437]

>>20239970
The standard gaylord worldview. Everything and everyone was faggots.

[Anonymous No.20249487]

funny thing is these threads have sold more copies than anything else just ignore it if it is so shit

[Anonymous No.20249529]

Dipshits still don't know how easily manipulated they are.

[Anonymous No.20249547]

>>20249487
I'm all about the financial empowerment of trans women

[Anonymous No.20250250]

>>20244383
I believe it's a statement against modernity/the ebook industry/whatever. He's a big Ted K fan.

[Anonymous No.20251094]

>>20250250
Maybe, if he didn't also sell an audiobook

[Anonymous No.20251103]

>>20249529
Who's being manipulated?

[Anonymous No.20251117]

>>20249389
Capitalism doesn't exist. That's objective truth

[Anonymous No.20251131]

>>20243863
>What is true is archeology
You have never read archeological essays. It is pure speculation.

[Anonymous No.20251141]

>>20250250
>>20251094
But he sells through Amazon ...

[Anonymous No.20251723]

>>20251141
Ted did use the mail system

[Anonymous No.20252520]

[Anonymous No.20253059]

>>20252520
cringe