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Is there a philosophy about manipulating and using people for your own profit being based and the right thing to do as a human?
Not in the evil way, but in the correct one, as you dont really care about others the way you think you do.

>> No.20230116
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20230116

>>20230111
I’m an INTP

>> No.20230122

>>20230111
The Bible, and probably anything religious that involves converting people. So definitely Islamic books too, and maybe Judaism.

>> No.20230135

>>20230111
LITERALLY EVERYTHING LIKE HOLY HELL THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING LITERALLY ANYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING WITH THE INTENT OF ANOTHER TO HERE HAS THIS AS ITS IMPLICIT AND USUALLY EXPLICIT PUPOSE> HOLY kek YOU ARE STOOOOPID.

YOU THINK CARLYLE DIDNT WANT OTHERS TO LISTEN TO HIM? OR NAPOLEON? or NIETCHE OR DESCARTE

kill yourself you are too dumb to be allowed to live. thats literally what truth is.

>> No.20230139

>>20230135
yes im dumb, but listen, post your nose
HAAAAA GOTCHA

and what do you mean by truth? that its subjetive and can be "molded" by anyone?

>> No.20230149

>>20230135
What are you talking about? A lot of writers wrote things as a cope, and others would just use writing as a means of thought.

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>>20230116
Fellow intellectual INTJ checking in

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>>20230149
> LITERALLY ANYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING WITH THE INTENT OF ANOTHER TO HEAR
I gave a qualifier
>>20230139
I am saying everyone who says they know the truth and explains what that knowledge is would have the truth to their knowledge. Maybe one of them IS right. I am not saying its subjective as one MAY be true.

>> No.20230254

>>20230111
>philosophy about manipulating and using people for your own profit being based
Look into the opposition to kantian ethics, this sounds like the opposite of "only treating humans as ends not means". You might get something out of the unique and its property by stirner and make it not evil by incorporating epicureanism, zen and/or negative utilitarianism.

>> No.20230262

>>20230251
Are you on drugs? Cocaine or meds?

>> No.20230341

>>20230262
Verilily, I vie that my verbose verbage is VERBOTEN for vilians to vivisect.

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I want everyone in this thread to know that MBTI is complete horseshit with no scientific basis and that if you put even the slightest amount of stock into it, you are a sad retard who requires a personality test to tell you the ways in which you can and cannot exist.

>> No.20230399

>>20230359
ISTJ take

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>>20230359
idk man
maybe youre right
maybe youre wrong

>> No.20230450

>>20230399
Last time I took it I was an ENTP and before that ENFJ. I had a really devastating traumatic event between those two takes, so maybe it’s just because I’ve changed a lot that my results have changed, but I also know people with doctorates in psych who have laughed genuine MBTI believers out of parties before. I think I’ll probably trust they know what they’re talking about.

>> No.20230501

>>20230450
>I will just mindlessly trust authority figures instead of trying to understand the process and form my own opinions.
Ok ISTJ

>> No.20230505
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THE DARKNESS THAT COMES BEFORE

>> No.20230539

>>20230111
My horoscope is INFJ, though I'm nothing like either of these. What are the determining factors?

>> No.20230569

>>20230539
>though I'm nothing like either of these
exactly what hitler and jesus said.

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I'm an INFP and I don't ever say the n-word because I think it's wrong.

>> No.20230588

>>20230501
I understand the process it’s just that the process is retarded. Doesn’t that make you the ISTJ for placing all your chips into one thing to define literally everyone?

>> No.20230632

>>20230505
Looks like Trudeau

>> No.20230636

>>20230588
>process is retarded
nothing is retarded anon, even if something isn't supported by scientific research it can still be very valuable depending on how you approach the matter.

>> No.20230637

>>20230632
what if….
no, it couldnt be….

>> No.20230649

>>20230636
That being said, I also think the test is shit but at least its fun.

>> No.20230650

>>20230579
based literally me

>> No.20230669

>>20230111
It's a totally neutral activity. The contextual viscerality of your actions modulates their perceived value.
How could it be based? It's just grounded. Based is doing something without questioning it's ethical validity, although not everyone that does so will be deemed based - as that is what value is - an imposed category on you by others. Even Nietzsche couldn't escape that transcendent fact.

>> No.20230675

>>20230341
You are unironically acting like a bot. Meh, I guess /lit/ actually got worse after all.

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>>20230650

>> No.20230700

>>20230675
bots tend not to alliterate off the cuff. Maybe I just didnt want to address you seriously, hmm?
>>20230692
based.

>> No.20231818

>>20230450
>doctorates in psychs
kek

>> No.20232485

>>20230122
Need books on this subject

>> No.20232497

>>20230111
Yes, nietzsche, who is shilled here constantly.

>> No.20232506

Scientology and Objectivism.

>> No.20232512

>INFJ
>INF - INFINITE
>J - JEST

>> No.20232518

>>20232512
no
that guy is a fag