/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.20206240]

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[Anonymous No.20206241]

What are you guys currently or planning on reading?

I’m taking a one day break from reading A game of thrones since I realize I read over 300 pages and I don’t want myself burning out from it.

[Anonymous No.20206264]

>>20206241
I watched season 1 and will probably never touch the books. That writing is too awful for there to ever have been a good story under that disgusting mess at any point.

[Anonymous No.20206282]

What science fiction is there about pic related?

[Anonymous No.20206284]

>>20206282
The DSM.

[Anonymous No.20206289]

>>20206284
Fiction is not science fiction technically

[Anonymous No.20206423]

>>20206240
I remember I getting a book or two from this series from barnes and noble back in the 90's as a kid. I liked it because it had a cool dragon looking thing on the cover. And I liked it. I reread a good chunk of the books recently and man, it gets really boring

[Anonymous No.20206454]

>>20206241
I'm reading house of chains and it's boring like shit

[Anonymous No.20206543]

>>20206241
Just finished Bastion. Thinking about something quick and easy before sizing up the Gormenghast trilogy, is it really as difficult as people make it out to be?

[Anonymous No.20206557]

Any more wholesome low stakes fantasy like pic related?

[Anonymous No.20206721]

>>20206282
i saw this in a raised by wolves thread so imma say that

[Anonymous No.20206763]

The more you read Lord of the Rings the more you realize that all other fantasy is subpar. No trannies, no preaching about social class, no human race wars. Few women. Themes of good nature in humanity and culture. Automatically filters half-orc readers that try to read because of Tolkien's adjectives and extended vocabulary. The books mog Peter Jackson.

[Anonymous No.20206774]

>>20206763
Meds

[Anonymous No.20206812]

>>20206774
You know I'm right, Grima

[Anonymous No.20206814]

>>20206763
The problem with Tolkien is that the hobbit is his ideal.

[Anonymous No.20206872]

For me, it's Gene Wolfe

[Anonymous No.20206901]

>>20206814
I don't know what you mean, explain

[Anonymous No.20206950]

>>20206901
This is an ideological thing, maybe, rather than a literary one. But I think Tolkien thinks of heroic figures and states that strive upward as inherently prone to corruption. Sam's purity/incorruptibility stems from only wanting to having a really nice garden, because the Ring tempts people with promises of power and prowess.

I don't think the hobbit-ideal is bad or that those messages are totally wrong, but I find them unsatisfying if you're searching for a "perfect" fantasy work that's about what's good in human nature. Conan is good, Severian is good, in different ways than Frodo is.

[Anonymous No.20206952]

>>20206557
Are there human men breading a rainbow of women in this?

[Anonymous No.20206965]

>>20206557
>orc

[Anonymous No.20207030]

wtf man, gene wolfe is punishing my ESL ass.

i have to look shit up constantly
>baldric
>pennon
>peltast

[Anonymous No.20207065]

>>20207030
>jape
>lochage
>paterissa
>donjon
>baldanders
>flambeaux
>dray

[Anonymous No.20207080]

>>20206950
But Sam is loyal and honest. He values friendship and good company. He doesn't fall the temptations like the rest of the fellowship. He continues on to keep his promise to look out for Frodo. Itheir friendship is stronger than any of us have probably ever experienced in the modern age. Nobody would risk their neck in the easy they did. The hobbies represent the goodness in humanity. Its not about gardening but how the Hobbits make the best of things and love people and good company. They constantly remind elves, dwarves, and humans of the power of treating people well and standing up to evil.

[Anonymous No.20207130]

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.20207147]

>>20206240
Dawnshard, The Stormlight Archive #3.5 - Brandon Sanderson (2020)

This was a fun story with a lot of enjoyable characters. It's the closest that a Stormlight Archive work has been to being science fiction considering how much discussion there was about the specific details about the interactions between metals and gemstones along with the creation of new devices. Rysn, the protagonist, is paraplegic. There was a lot of focus on her disability, perhaps too much for some, but I didn't mind.

There was only a single part that I had any problem with, but it was a major one. The problem was with differing standards between works in different mediums and mismatched expectations. I'd previously written that Stormlight Archive, and Sanderson in general, has been taken too seriously. So, I was surprised when I realized after finishing that I had still been taking this too seriously.

I shouldn't have been, but I was rather letdown by the ending because it was too much of an escalation too quickly. I assume it's a preparatory explanation for a book considerably in the future to mitigate concerns about power or to allay accusations of deus ex machina.

Then I started thinking about the story more, which is especially dangerous for anything purely meant for entertainment. I highly recommend against doing so in most cases. There was a huge disconnect between what I thought about the titular thing and everything else in the story. Here's where I end to avoid thinking any further.

Rating: 3.5/5

[Anonymous No.20207155]

>>20207147
Yeah, it's very much... Just a "hey this is set up for the future" book, which is pretty indicative of Sanderson's issues as a whole. It's a solid read, but the last part just kinda drags it down.

[Anonymous No.20207205]

>>20207147
Your rating system is beyond illogical. Why even use any kind of number system when the numbers clearly don't relate to anything you write or think about a book? It serves no purpose, even more so than score systems usually.

[Anonymous No.20207247]

>>20207030
I hope you do realize that you don't really have to look up each and every rarely used adjective to enjoy it

[Anonymous No.20207258]

>>20207065
Baldanders is a name

[Anonymous No.20207275]

>>20207155
Succinctly put.

>>20207205
>Your rating system is beyond illogical.
The rating system isn't intended to be "logical". It's only there because it reflects what I rated it on Goodreads. You may or may not seen that I use words for the short fiction to describe what I read instead. I don't use a star rating system for anything other than this, purely for consistency. As I've noted before, I only write about what interests me about what I read and I call them "write-ups" rather than reviews. They aren't meant to be professional in any way. I'm aware and have stated before that the actual text may not be reflective of the ratings as a result. Feel free not to read them.

>It serves no purpose
It's a summation that roughly means "My emotional reaction to this book was roughly the same as to this book that has a similar rating."

>numbers clearly don't relate to anything you write or think
I think they do at least somewhat. It isn't systematized, that's true. Here's a repost of what the ratings mean:

5 - Great
4 - Good
3 - Ok
2 - Bad
1 - Augh

So, 3.5 is somewhere between "good" and "ok".

>This was a fun story with a lot of enjoyable characters.
Based on this statement, I'd say that's a 4, maybe even a 5 in some cases. However,
>There was only a single part that I had any problem with, but it was a major one
That's a deduction there to be certain. Perhaps the problem is that you think I'm being overly critical and can't enjoy something despite criticizing it a lot. I don't know. Let me know what you think an appropriate rating for what I've written would be.

[Anonymous No.20207297]

Tolkien inspired me to save the life of a squirel in a boomer's garden trap this morning.

[Anonymous No.20207305]

Holy shit, Bakkertards were right this whole time. This is pure KINO.

[Anonymous No.20207341]

>>20207247
i don't have to but i want to hehe

>>20207258
it is but i've discovered that the names wolfe gives his characters have meanings or are based on pre-existing figures

[Anonymous No.20207864]

>>20206965
>he doesn't want to fuck orcs
you're gay

[Anonymous No.20208018]

>>20206241
The Doctor Who novel, Timewyrm: Exodus. I will read : Revelation next.

[Anonymous No.20208071]

>>20207305
Wait 'till you get to the gay rape!

[Anonymous No.20208125]

I was really looking forward to a long and grueling war between Spiders and Man. So much wasted potential in Children of Time.

[Anonymous No.20208207]

>>20206240
Is there a /lit/ chart for the best in Sci-Fi/Fantasy prose? It feels like a lot of these genres have interesting ideas, but shit writing.

[Anonymous No.20208321]

>>20208207
That's by design.

[Anonymous No.20208340]

m john harrison

[Anonymous No.20208345]

Any sci-fi books with this feel?
Yes, I know about the original Dirty Pair novels.

[Anonymous No.20208377]

>>20208207
Yandex 'pre-tolkien fantasy'. There's your list.

[Anonymous No.20208488]

>>20208071
The gay rape ruined several characters for me. Though the worst one was probably when it was consensual (last book). I thought Bakker was supposed to be based but now I’m not so sure anymore.

[Anonymous No.20208495]

Any of the books in my collection worth reading? I'm about two chapters into Alaizabel Cray and it reads like a movie script. (I was expecting Lovecraft tier writing).

[Anonymous No.20208513]

>>20206240
I can’t decide if I want to get the Folio Society edition of The Book of the New Sun. I love these books more than anything but apart from the price I also very strongly dislike the illustrations. They wasted a huge opportunity by drawing mainly people instead of sceneries. The driving force when it comes to visualization in the books is not the physical appearance of the characters but rather the world they inhabit, the landscapes and sceneries. Seeing a full double page spread of Agia and her brother and another one with Thecla in chains must be some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

[Anonymous No.20208517]

>>20206240
>Downloaded Gillian files from OP pasta /t/ link
>Open first file in folder "A"

>
…The oak shaft measured a good twelve inches in length and
nearly two inches in diameter. With the bulbous crystal giving it a
phallic shape, she hadn’t been far off the mark.

“Oh, my,” she murmured. The thought flitted across her mind… If
she lubricated it enough, would it fit inside her?

Hilary lifted the staff and ran her hand up the hard length of the
handle, cupping her palm around the crystal. When her fingers closed
around it, the crystal flashed brightly and another jolt entered the center
of her palm. The current shot up her arm, through her torso, and
straight to her pussy.

Her juices flowed and wet her panties as her womb clenched. Her
clit throbbed harder, almost painfully, and her nipples tightened more.
With her other hand, she pulled the long skirt of her costume up over
her knees. She wouldn’t need any more lubrication than she already
had.

She was grappling with her panties, to get them out of the way,
when Shadow jumped up on the couch and rubbed into her arm, his tail
trailing across her face as he turned. Her arm recoiled from the pressure
of the cat, and the staff slipped from her hand.

What the fuck guys lol

[Anonymous No.20208660]

>>20207258
Baldanders is a cunt

[Anonymous No.20208680]

>>20206241
Just finished Book of the New Sun proper. Gonna take a month off or so to catch up on non-sff stuff before I read Urth of the New Sun. I thought it was great, but it did bump up the intensity in last half of citadel when it comes to high concept shit and whatnot
I felt like I had a real good grasp of most things up until then, but after Sev became the autarch, they started talkin about time travel and white fountains and different types of ayy lmaos and stuff, i definitely didn't pick it all up. It was great tho. The final chapter where he says he must soon "don robes of argent, the color that is purer than white" was fucking kino of the highest caliber. Excited to see what happens next in Urth!

[Anonymous No.20208694]

>>20207297
I'm proud of you and Tolkien would be, too, anon

[Anonymous No.20208698]

>>20208207
The only good prose is Wolfe and Tolkien. That's literally it

[Anonymous No.20208704]

>>20208513
Don't worry, anon, give me a few years and I'll have a publishing company. I'll buy the rights to publish Gene Wolfe's works and make the best damn editions the world has ever seen

[Anonymous No.20208716]

>>20208207
>prose
What does this word even mean

[Anonymous No.20208722]

>>20208495
I absolutely loved Between Two Fires.

[Anonymous No.20208732]

>>20208495
Dragonlance is a cheap D&D fanfiction exercise written by a man and his wife iirc. Unless you really, really like the Tolkien knockoff genre I'd lower it on the priority list

[Anonymous No.20208798]

>>20208698
>He forgets Peake, Dusany, E. R. Eddison, David Lindsay, TH White, Ursula K Le Guin, and CS Lewis

[Anonymous No.20208877]

In 1996 GRRM thought he could complete ASOIAF by 1998. Let's calculate his writing speed change.

So he had one book complete, he thought he had three more to go. Assuming he calculated them all to be as long as AGOT, he had three books of 73 chapters each to complete.

So in 1996 he thought he could complete 219 chapters in two years. Let's be generous and give him all of 1996 to start writing the 2nd book (like he finished late 1995, it wasn't published until August 1996) then give him all 1997, and the book is done end of 1998. Let's give him 36 full months (it's closer to two and a half years)

So he calculated he could write 6 chapters per month.

[Anonymous No.20208928]

>>20208877
So the series ended up expanding. So the next 4 books had 271 chapters released over the next 16 years. That's 192 months.

That's less than a chapter and a half per month that he ended up completing.

[Anonymous No.20208964]

About to read The Darkness That Comes Before, but one question...
What is setting's bestiary like, if any? Any elves, orcs, other known mythical beasts?

[Anonymous No.20208980]

>>20208964
You'll be acquainted with the main ones in the prologue

[Anonymous No.20208987]

>>20208928
Now here comes the depressing part. So, if GRRM had continued writing not as his previous estimate of 6 chapters per month, but instead a little less than a chapter and a half (1.41 chapters per month), when should TWOW have come out?

Let's assume TWOW is a long book, as long as ASOS- 82 chapters. So 271+82=352 chapters to complete. 342/1.41 = 249 months, or 20 years, so TWOW should come out 2016!

[Anonymous No.20209020]

>>20208987
we already know he moved several chapters from ADWD to TWOW like Battle of Meereen and the Battle on the Ice so you sort of wonder what the hell the rest of the plot is doing. Is the main issue getting Dany all the way back from Dothraki Sea to Meereen and then to Free Cities and Westeros in one book?

[Anonymous No.20209025]

>>20209020
Easy solve: Gendry piggybacks her the whole way in a week.

[Anonymous No.20209034]

>>20209025
Now Gendry's problem is he is in the Riverlands doing the bidding of the Brotherhood under the zombie Catelyn, that's going to be one hell of a piggyback ride

[Anonymous No.20209038]

>>20209020
He's rewriting everything. Many years ago he claimed he had enough Arya chapters to fill a novella. Then a blog post a few years back he mentioned how he was "in Bravos". So unless half the book is Arya chapters, it's pretty clear he's trashing his work as he goes.

[Anonymous No.20209041]

>>20209034
No problem, he went from a week north of the wall to kings landing to whisper in dany's ear in one afternoon.

[Anonymous No.20209056]

>>20208964
There's elves with a different name, retard halflings later, pretty looking orcs, dragons, demons

[Anonymous No.20209077]

>>20209020
I think the biggest issue is he takes long breaks and rewrites and throws away tons of material.

I wish he had serialized the books. He released 344 chapters since mid 1996. If he had somehow a chapter every 3 weeks starting in mid 1996, we would have gotten to the end of ADWD in 2016, but we would've gotten to the end of TWOW by 2021

[Anonymous No.20209094]

GRRM's output has gone from 6 chapters a month to about a chapter per month. So we're obviously never going to get ADOS, maaaaaaybe TWOW in the 2020s.

[Anonymous No.20209107]

>>20208495
Annihilation is, that's the only one I've read. I know by reputation that A Fire Upon the Deep, and Blood Music are very good. And I saw an anon here say Susanna Clarke is not bad as far as recent fantasy goes.

[Anonymous No.20209132]

>>20208513
I agree, for me the illustrations detract from it. I picture the characters however I picture them, I don't need portraits. Landscapes or architecture would be much better.
As far as buying the books, I probably would if I could, but it's better that I can't. You're not going to enjoy them more because you have an expensive object. Maybe if I was settled and had my own library, it would be worth it, but not to have stacked somewhere just to read. Probably the best reason to buy them is to re-sell them for a profit. Actually I shouldn't even be saying this, I wonder how sound it is. Buy a few, keep one, sell the others eventually and it pays for itself.

[Anonymous No.20209156]

Almost every single women in >WoT are either giga manipulative bitches or extremely annoying. I'm starting to hate women chapters now, what the fuck

[Anonymous No.20209168]

>>20209094
It pisses me off every time I think about it, and I'm tired of saying it, but some of this shit was written before Feast for Crows came out. It's carryover from all the way back then because it wasn't time in the plot yet for him to include it. So Winds of Winter was practically one-fifth written, to my understanding, all this time.

[Anonymous No.20209176]

>>20206241
Reading Bastion!

[Anonymous No.20209189]

>>20209156
>in WoT
You're so close

[Anonymous No.20209210]

>>20208680
The last half of Citadel is the best part of the series, maybe. He finished so strong, and it's not like the first half is weak either. I loved how it was mostly him taking to people and hearing stories.
As for the high concept shit, the last paragraph is baffling. When he returns to the Atrium of time. I reread those chapters from book 1 and I figured out that the Atrium is in the future, like the top floors of Ash's house. But it's still confusing the way it's written, how Severian describes voices coming from the walls. It must be the previous autarchs in his mind.
I'm also taking a break before reading Urth, because I actually want to reread the whole series first, and I don't want to that immediately.

[Anonymous No.20209212]

>enhances your kino

[Anonymous No.20209268]

>>20209176
How you finding it? I enjoyed it overall by the end, but I definitely found it had an unnecessarily slow pace. It definitely didn't need to be that big of a book. It's nothing particularly unique, but it's pretty well-executed for what it is.

[Anonymous No.20209290]

>wondering about physicals vs e-readers
>thread pruned
Guess /lit/ isn't for discussion on books, it's for posting "any recs for le epic tradcath bible verses"

[Anonymous No.20209304]

>>20207147
Dawnshart

[Anonymous No.20209310]

>>20208716
Meme word to deflect from being filtered
As in
>n-no the book definitely wasn't too hard for me it just had uh bad prose shit writing

[Anonymous No.20209311]

>>20209290
Tbh this is something that have been discussed to exaustion since the first e-ink devices
Personally, I like it because I can pirate books, simple as. I read a lot too.

[Anonymous No.20209317]

>>20209156
Just like real life...

[Anonymous No.20209322]

>>20209210
Yeah I didnt get that part of the atrium stuff, but that does make alot of sense.
It's great that even IN the books Severian is like "aye if you think I didn't tell you everything, read it again, my dude"
For me, Sword was my favorite. It was great from start to finish. I liked citadel but I'm not happy about the actual ending. It's a great ending, but I would have prefered if Sev got a happier ending instead of going on to become autarch. There was a passage where he said he desperately wanted to become the successor, but the very next passage was about how he wanted to run away because he treausred the privacy he had with Thecla and didnt want a hundred other minds intruding on their bond. I wish he would have refused and lived a happy life, maybe found dorcas and become a farmer or whatever, like casdoe's family. But of course he wasn't going to do that. Of course he was going to sacrifice the last thing he had left in order to serve humanity...
>mfw "until the New Sun comes"

[Anonymous No.20209333]

>>20209317
Truly a genius

[Anonymous No.20209353]

Just another progression fantasy retard here. Was talking to people a few threads back about what I had thought of Reverend Insanity, Bastion, and Cradle. I've caught up on Virtuous Sons which was a Greco-Roman Xianxia. The're less novels and more arcs setup to release in a weekly format, which I should've expected from Royal Road. Not a terrible entry but it doesn't spend enough time on its own cultivation system, instead diving into how much the author thinks he knows about Aristotle and Socrates' philosophical virtues. Both leads are Stus, which seems to be something in this genre that I've got to accept.

Book 5 in my 20 book run is a title called Reincarnation: Threads of Fate Book 1. 1/3 the length of Bastion and wastes no time in setting up the standards of its cultivations. Everyone in this world is born with 3 cultivation cores - body, heart and mind. By refining these cores beyond foundation you provide this empire it's major players - Saints become Sages, which become Dukes, Kings and finally Emperors. Each stage has the 4 sub-stages - low, middle, high and true.

From there, the book is almost identically Reverend Insanity with Cradle influences imposed over it. Once more our MC is a 650 year old immortal, reincarnated into his younger form by the cruel machinations of fate. Though he's provided direction immediately - defeat the 200 demons that he unleashed on the world in his previous life with 400 years, or be destroyed. If I rated Reverend Insanity at a 4 out of 10, this would be a 5. At the 50% mark, the MC is handed an overpowered and game changing relic through convenience and becomes a more solidified Gary Stu, who can still compete with cultivators more than 4 ranks above him. Despite this, each cultivation realm is 'a world upon itself'.

I'm starting to notice the major flaws of this genre.

[Anonymous No.20209362]

Any books like Nioh where it's fantasy sengoku?

[Anonymous No.20209382]

>book comes out almost 2 years ago
>only released physically; not digitally
>it's a short story collection that has only one story I want to read
>find out today it finally has a digital release
>it's 10 fucking dollars
I'm all for supporting small indie presses, but fuck you.

[Anonymous No.20209390]

>>20208495
>it reads like a movie script.
Welcome to steampunk

[Anonymous No.20209397]

>>20209382
Did you check mobilism

[Anonymous No.20209421]

>>20209353
>the book is almost identically Reverend Insanity with Cradle influences imposed over it.
How is mc compared to Fang Yuan? Is mc antihero?
Also if it is identical I assume there is no any kind of romance and no significant female characters?

[Anonymous No.20209422]

>>20209353
>Once more our MC is a 650 year old immortal, reincarnated into his younger form by the cruel machinations of fate.
Sounds interesting desu

[Anonymous No.20209424]

>>20209322
It hurt that he came to Dorcas twice and they didn't speak.

[Anonymous No.20209435]

>>20209421
Anti-hero so far. He's actively trying to root out a corrupt gambling institution within his clan, all because they're profiting off of children's lives. No romance so far and the only two females that have appeared were immediately made eye candy and married off to relatives of the MC. The author has made a point to mention how the 650 year old man reincarnated as a 10 year old is getting little chubs and dreading going through puberty again because of these GORGEOUS 14 year olds, so not quite Fang Yuan.

>>20209422
Interesting enough to choke down one book at least. Give it a try, tell me what you think about the MC's belt.

[Anonymous No.20209456]

>>20209353
"This genre" meaning progression fantasy or cultivation shit? Because the flaws of progression fantasy boil down to "some authors focus too much on the formulaic progression". Cradle actually gets around this by the higher levels being way more esoteric, I find, instead of just "having the big number".

[Anonymous No.20209510]

>looking for recs
>look at the SF Masterworks list
>pick ones that seem interesting based off its art
>tfw literally judging books by its cover

[Anonymous No.20209526]

>>20206763
>>20206763
>The books mog Peter Jackson.
I really, really hate how Jackson took 100% of the surprise out of Boromir's betrayal. Even, in the extended edition, Gandalf nearly explicitly informs Frodo that Boromir is probably going to try and take the ring. It completely deflates the shocking portrayal of the ring's sinister power that the plot twist could have otherwise held.

I also hate how Arwen was given credit for Gandalf and Elrond's role in saving Frodo at the ford to Rivendell. I'm sure this unnecessary truncation was pushed by that fat bitch Jackson had working as his right hand. And even despite making this politically motivated change to the original story to force a non canon "action heroine" into the movie, and despite there already being one in the story (Eowyn) 40 years before it was deemed mandatory by media and academic elites- people still complain that the story is exclusive to women. Outrageous.

I also dislike the portrayal of the cave troll. In the behind the scenes documentary, Jackson describes his intentionally cultivating the character (cave troll) to be something sympathetic and pitiful. He makes the scene seem like a calf is being slaughtered. It's extremely out of place. Not just in the pacing of the story, where it distracts and muddles the more important tragedy of gandalf's death which occurs only a couple scenes later, but also in the larger structure of Tolkein's extremely clear, simplistic morality and duality. That needless, senseless tinkering by Jackson in that scene reminds me of Martin's now infamous criticisms of the morality of killing Orcs in Tolkeins books.

And Viggo's portrayl of Aragon is overrated. He did fine as strider, but I felt he was otherwise lacking

[Anonymous No.20209536]

>>20209435
>Anti-hero so far.
>He's actively trying to root out a corrupt gambling institution within his clan, all because they're profiting off of children's lives
That does not sound like antihero.

[Anonymous No.20209548]

>>20209536
Anti-heroes are still heroes. Though what people define as "anti-heroes" these days just means "grumpy good guys" or "relateable bad guys".

[Anonymous No.20209570]

>>20206264
The books are much better written, even just looking at the adapted parts of the show. But if you thought Season 1 was a "disgusting mess" then I guess you probably wouldn't like it. Honestly never met someone who disliked early GoT's writing

[Anonymous No.20209579]

>>20209310
>Post modern fag
Yeah bro, there is no hierarchy. EL James is just as good as Joyce.

[Anonymous No.20209581]

>>20208495
Annihilation is an incredible read. Creepy fucking setting, very descriptive writing that gets Lovecraftian concepts through effectively. And the sequels are shit so you don't have to feel like you're signing up for a trilogy read

[Anonymous No.20209582]

>>20209579
Yes anon everyone that calls you an idiot is just a jewish marxist islamic communist chaos dragon post modernist feminist, keep huffing that jordan peterson garbage

[Anonymous No.20209588]

>>20207864
>wants to be embraced by a strong and muscular orc
anon, i think you're the gay

[Anonymous No.20209621]

>>20201884
>>20201909
lol, you remembered? Well I just finished part 1, which is roughly 1/6th of the way through. And so far I'm liking it. Nothing to complain about yet. I like how a character was used for a POV for one chapter, only to hype another character up, and then tossed away to make room for the hyped up character. And then the hyped up character is immediately brought low and ran through the dirt face first. Can't pinpoint why I like this so much. It was just a cool way to introduce a character.

And I like that despite there being a lot of magic, it doesn't get in the way of the character conflicts being set up. I like all the characters so far, and I'm curious how their journey will turn out. Part 1 is just a lot of setup, so I have no idea what's going to happen yet.

>>20206053
Oh thanks. I did leave. Just followed my whims, which took me away from books for a while. But now I'm in the mood again.

[Anonymous No.20209672]

>>20209581
What a way to avoid my critique. Kek. Jesus Christ you're dull. Tell me why prose is a bullshit term or go dilate.

[Anonymous No.20209709]

>he can't even reply right
lmao

[Anonymous No.20209779]

>>20206241
Finished pyramids and now onto mort.
Mort has been really, really good.

[Anonymous No.20209822]

>>20209779
Discworld has its ups and downs, but it never gets below, like, a 7 or 8/10 after Mort. Even the more mediocre ones (by the standards of Discworld) are carried by just Pratchett's writing style. Enjoy reading the rest if you're planning on it.

[Anonymous No.20209852]

>>20209822
Right now the plan is to continue tue guards and death collections. Then who knows

[Anonymous No.20209862]

>>20209852
I've always vouched for just publication order, personally. The subseries orders are only if you find absolutely nothing compelling about the rest, really. Because each one builds up to the next one, so you'll get a lot of things brought up in Guards that boil over to the Witches, or Witches to Death, etc. Hell, one of the standalones is pretty much vitally important for all of the series afterward because it's backstory for a major religion.

[Anonymous No.20209914]

>>20209456
Cultivation shit. Maybe it's just my own poor choices so far but almost every MC has been a Stu that's been forced along through convenience. Still got 15 books to go so the redeemable ones must be out there... Somewhere...

>>20209536
>>20209548
To accomplish this so far (among other goals), he forced a sharp rock through a 14 year old girl's brain. Taking a break but the last thing I read was him threading qi fishing line through people's earlobes and nostrils, running the line into their skulls to interrogate information out of them. It's really all in the execution, right?

[Anonymous No.20209920]

>>20209914
kino..

[Anonymous No.20209986]

>>20206241
Planning on reading The Three Body Problem.
I had picked up The Golden Age, and I am being filtered by the writing style. The author keeps introducing new things in the world, but wont describe the thing in any detail past the overloaded term he used to describe said thing.

[Anonymous No.20210004]

Under the mountain trees
They twerk their booties
The dwarven asses everyone knows
In middle earth that's how it goes

[Anonymous No.20210093]

>>20209107
A Fire Upon the Deep has excellent world building, which is to say it's trash but fun to read. The rest of the series is fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.20210127]

*cronch cronch*
I just found Tolkein and Frank Herbert too boring to enjoy *burp*
*cronch cronch cronch*

[Anonymous No.20210154]

>>20206241
Just started the third Mistborn book
Is it me or is the first one way more enjoyable than the rest of the series? Maybe it was because that was the first time I read Branderson, idk
He'll go on a long ass passage about some inane shit and just when I think something interesting is gonna happen, doesn't even have to be anything plot related, just a regular conversation, he just changes to another character and situation, killing the buildup. He does this like three time a chapter at this point and it's getting tiring
Also, I feel like his books are just (blatantly) becoming (unfair/uncomplete) puzzles? Every tidbit of worldbuilding or information about a character seems only aimed to building up the final "plot twist" or something like that. idk, it's starting to feel weak
Also, I really miss fluff scenes like the ones between Vin and Elend, desu I fell in love with him the moment he appeared and I was actually giggling like a retard at every interaction they had. Sorely missing stuff like that in book two and book three so far

[Anonymous No.20210184]

>>20210154
I don't think you're wrong. Sandersnoy relies too much on "muh climax" to excuse the boring plodding of his story beforehand.

[Anonymous No.20210198]

are there any fantasy/scifi books that focus primarily on a thalassocracy, ie a sea/maritime power?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassocracy

[Anonymous No.20210226]

>>20210154
Also, kinda dissapointed that the second book didn't end with a Mountains of Madness expedition to the Well with all five, Tindwyl and Cett's daugher included. I hope the third book gives her some decent screentime because I was really starting to like her.

>>20210184
I mean, I can enjoy a good, long, drawn-out build up, specially with something like a siege, but it did feel like he held up too many stuff until the very end to "enhace" the climax which honestly I barely gave a fuck about in the second book beyond Vin and Elend's well being (yes, still, I cried)

[Anonymous No.20210230]

>>20210198
It's not the primary focus, but it is a heavy focus, the Maori pretty much rule the worldas a naval power in post-apocalyptia in Poul Anderson's "Orion Shall Rise"

[Anonymous No.20210235]

>>20207297
BASED animal-friend.

[Anonymous No.20210269]

>>20210154
i would've been fine with it being just a single book
and cut out the romance too

[Anonymous No.20210325]

>>20209353
Thanks for the review, have you posted other reviews and if so what words should I use to look up your tags? I am hooked on the idea of progression fantasy but haven’t found many novels that weren’t abominable trash except a few. If you’re still up to adding books to your progression fantasy book run then I recommend Lord of Mysteries, it’s pretty good except it’s very slow paced at the start and it’s an English translation

[Anonymous No.20210336]

>>20210325
Nothing quite so formal. It mostly stems from responding to the guy who constantly posts the Reverend Insanity cover and stirring shit until other anons join. I only pop into these generals once a week or so, but if people would find value in actual reviews then I'll spend some more time on them and do some in retrospect.

[Anonymous No.20210419]

Big Green Cock
Hey Hey Hey
Big Green Cock
It will make you gay
Big Green Cock
It will make you sing
Big Green Cock
Its the best thing

[Anonymous No.20210444]

If I published my collection of short stories would you read it?

[Anonymous No.20210460]

>>20210444
No, now fuck off to /wg/ >>20203603

[Anonymous No.20210481]

>>20210444
Yes, now stay and post on this thread

[Anonymous No.20210544]

>>20210444
checked and yes, please link when you do

[Anonymous No.20210547]

>>20210444
based

[Anonymous No.20210552]

>>20210444
No, this isn’t the writing general, fuck off

[Anonymous No.20210767]

>>20206872
>>20208680
>>20208704
>>20208698
Based Wolfemen
>>20207030
Good on ye for sticking with him though anon. One of the best, up there with Tolkien.
>>20208732
Could you be thinking of Azure Bonds? That was written by a man and his wife.

[Anonymous No.20210780]

>>20209322
>Sword was my favorite
Almost everyone I talk to on here seems to prefer that one. Must be all the Kino monsters they have in there.

[Anonymous No.20210966]

>>20209822
Equal Rites was pretty bad. I've heard later in his career Pratchett allowed transvestite fanatics to pressure and guilt him into incorporating normalization of their disease into his stories as repentance for using characters in drag for comedy in earlier books. I've also thought the witches stories were always hit or miss; some are a drag to pull myself through.

>>20209862
>I've always vouched for just publication order, personally.
Best strategy for nearly every book series ever written.

[Anonymous No.20211003]

>>20207297
Based

[Anonymous No.20211043]

cradle v8 was pretty good, but i feel like they jumped the gun a bit at the end.

[Anonymous No.20211120]

>>20210336
Have you read Human Emperor?

[Anonymous No.20211157]

Let's see what's new in SciFi...

[Anonymous No.20211163]

Is the expanse actually good?

[Anonymous No.20211167]

When I watch the art style of games like Bloodborne it makes me think, why arent there books and movies in this setting? I think this is a point in favor of gaming.

In fact one of the stories that I want to inspire is inspired by Bloodborne. So much that I am afraid it wont be considered original.

[Anonymous No.20211175]

>>20211167
Descriptions of architecture can only be thaaat interesting

[Anonymous No.20211207]

>>20211157
Why have novels been the historical outlet for female sexual depravity when the male variety of the sexual disease seems to have tended to span numerous and various mediums?

[Anonymous No.20211266]

>>20211157
for me it's Rampion

[Anonymous No.20211269]

>>20210780
The monsters, the comfy mountain journey, Little Severian, the horrific things that happen in the mountains, the showdown at the castle. Lots to like.

[Anonymous No.20211271]

I started thinking about reading all of Discworld again, but wound up playing the MUD.
Never bothered with really exploring and trying to read its content until now. It's goddamn perfect. The learning curve guarantees morons can't get into it, the text base keeps MMO addicts at bay, and it's creators have been selective as all fuck but still massively expanded it continuously since 1991. Legendary interactive novel territory.
It's too easy to get distracted by it being a game, sadly.

[Anonymous No.20211298]

>>20211207
males respond to visual stimuli, females want to get in the right headspace

[Anonymous No.20211317]

>>20211167
Like what exactly? If you want Lovecraftian or Gothic horror there's tons to choose from. If you mean Bloodborne's unique blend of the two you may as well ask why there's aren't movies, games etc exactly like every moderately popular fantasy work

[Anonymous No.20211462]

Second Solider of the Mist book was very interesting, not what I was expecting. More subtle, leans way more into the concept that this guy is writing a journal to keep track of what happens day to day for himself. I have to think harder about at what point in the timeline of his narrative the chapter I'm reading was written. Fewer gods appear, compared to the first book what felt like a parade of gods, some insignificant or not even interacting with Latro. This adventure feels more self-contained, less chaotic, but more mysterious due to Wolfe's development of his style for this narrative concept.

[Anonymous No.20211469]

>>20206282
Greg Egan.

[Anonymous No.20211495]

>>20211163
It starts real nice, but then declines rapidly and constantly as you move on. Read the first 1 or 2 books and forget than anything else exists.

[Anonymous No.20211805]

>>20211157
Good morning I hate women

[Anonymous No.20211825]

>>20209822
The last few ones where the dementia was clearly setting in, where dictating his writing to an aid clearly wasn't carrying across his style, were pretty subpar on a general scale, even if understandably so. That being said, the last Tiffany Aching book with Weatherwax dying did hit pretty hard, no doubt thanks to Pratchett himself dealing with his mortality through the writing.

[Anonymous No.20211834]

I finally read Bakker's three books (Prince of Nothing) to see what the fuss is about. Can't say I liked them much. Higlights were a couple of battle / death scenes (Inrau's demise early on) for example and the gradual advancement of Kellhus, which came with its own set of troubles. Since Bakker can't really write compelling characters, his psychological, Herbertian games turned the crux of the novel (Dunyain) into just the worst kind of Muad'Dibbian nonsense and as a consequence everybody surrounding him inept and just plain dumb. Everyone seems to just sit down at some point and engage in theatrical tirades; he tried to counterweight this with Cnaiur's stream of consciousness but that too fell back upon itself since the novel(s) are, simply put, far too long. He's the Peter Straub of fantasy, where something that needs to be said in 500 pages goes along for 3000. This is also why his battles have a ton of attrition chokepoints where he just predictably sheds random people away across hostile geography. And the key moments in the books - the spinning of Kellhus and Serwe are either too abrupt or far, far too extented (the neverending cuckoldry).

Will see the synopsis of Aspect Emperor to check out where he took his worldbuilding after that but I did not like the books much. Another decent point is the desert atmosphere pervading cities and regions and attempts at morbid cruelty and psychological demise akin to what crazies from antiquity would do.

[Anonymous No.20211846]

>>20207275
>uses goodreads as a standard
Ah, no wonder your ratings are so fucking garbage and beyond stupid. Explains so fucking much why it never maps on to anything you write about the garbage you read, but also explains why your impressions are always just so incredibly superficial, and mostly dumb musings about totally irrelevant shit like the zeitgeist, mediums, general trends etc. It's exactly the stupid pretentious bullshit reviews on goodreads that talk about almost everything except the actual book and its quality, just minus the the stupid gifs.

[Anonymous No.20211937]

Any highlights among these authors? Got a whole stack of old scifi pockets for free and I don't recognize many of them.
Michael Moorcock
Hoyle & Elliot
R.E. Howard
Grovis
Wim Gijsen
Jack Finney
Curtis W. Casewit
Fredric Brown
James Blish
Piers Anthony
Kobo Abe
Robert Sheckley
Robert Silverberg
Clifford D. Simak

[Anonymous No.20211979]

>>20209526
> took the surprise out of Boromir
I found that Boromir was made more likable in the movie and I feel like the foreshadowing is there, but then again all I've watched is extended edition in recent years.
>Arwen
I agree, it's better in the book
>cave troll
The cave troll wasn't that big of a presence in the book, but correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Tolkien describes the sympathetic death. I took it as Tolkien wanted to make sure that it was explained that some creatures are not inherently evil but just used by wickedness of the enemy.

Viggo is too soft spoken and while a badass, he was lacking the regal direction. I think thats the problem with the movies... they are well cast but not all well directed.

[Anonymous No.20211996]

>>20210154
2nd Mistborn was a nice change of pace to the politics and war. Book 2 was ruined by the ending. Making Elend a mistborn was a stupid direction for his character. Sanderson can't just have good characters. They have to all be super mormon heroes. The mormonism ruins book 3 and I disliked that one more than the first two.

[Anonymous No.20212107]

>>20209914
The only good cultivation things seem to be the ones using it as a framework for better storytelling (Cradle and the like) or straight parodies like Beware of Chicken.

[Anonymous No.20212117]

>>20210154
Most people who rank the Mistborn books basically say Hero of Ages is the weakest one because... It's just a bunch of bleak nothing until the finale. The only remotely interesting scenes are Ten-Soon being great and Sazed's faith-questioning.

[Anonymous No.20212125]

>>20211825
Considering Weatherwax is basically the closest thing to a self-insert Pratchett has (he didn't really view himself as her, but she's the one with the closest worldview to his own), that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.20212166]

>>20211120
I have not but I'll add it to my list.

>>20212107
That lines up with my experience thus far.

[Anonymous No.20212171]

>>20212166
I think the problem with cultivation is it's linked so much to xianxia, which... Seems to be 90% template storytelling. Some are good (like Beware of Chicken, but, again, parody) but so many just seem to be almost the same things with a slight change, like... Setting might change, but the same exact story beats and very same-y MCs. I dunno if it's just a translation thing, but it's noticeable.

[Anonymous No.20212237]

>reading Aching God
>first character the protag comes across on his journey is a butch dyke
Has anyone ever read this? Should I bother with the rest

[Anonymous No.20212251]

Is Mushoku Tensei /sffg/ worthy?

[Anonymous No.20212255]

>>20212251
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.20212333]

>>20212237
Have you browsed the archives?

[Anonymous No.20212416]

>>20209581
Annihilation is a shit version of Roadside Picnic. Awful.

[Anonymous No.20212420]

>>20212237
I've read Aching God. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.20212459]

>>20211937
Moorcock's great, Howard's interesting if you want to see where fantasy came from, Abe's obviously brilliant and I liked the Simak I tried (Goblin Res).
Nobody there is bad but the likes of Finney and Anthony do seem to be pretty under read now given the heights of popularity they reached so I dunno if that speaks to their quality or not

[Anonymous No.20212469]

>>20212416
They're not even thematically similar beyond having a zone, you're an utter dunce who just wants to shit on everything posted.

[Anonymous No.20212491]

>>20208495
I've only read a few of these.
>Between Two Fires
Great. Extremely well-paced dark fantasy horror. Read The Blacktongue Thief by the same author if you end up enjoying it.
>Annihilation
Shit. Didn't bother reading the sequels, but I hear they're even worse. Don't waste your time.
>A Fire Upon the Deep
Good, but you'll either love or hate the pack mind dogs. Read A Deepness in the Sky instead if you can't get past the dogs. It's a much better prequel, although it spoils the reveal at the end of the first book.

[Anonymous No.20212509]

>>20208722
Why

[Anonymous No.20212516]

>>20212469
It absolutely is Roadside Picnic, but Lovecraft, and also shit. Wrong thread, pseud.

[Anonymous No.20212635]

>>20212459
Aha, I read and even enjoyed some Lin Carter, whom I now seem to remember ripped off Howard. Thanks anon.
But first, some Van Vogt, been curious about him since I read this little pkd essay
>https://urbigenous.net/library/how_to_build.html

[Anonymous No.20212639]

>>20212635
correction, it was this interview: https://urbigenous.net/library/vertex_pkd.html

[Anonymous No.20212735]

Fuck the anon that recommended "The Doors of Eden" by Adrian Tchaikovsky. Does this author always write woke garbage?
> two main characters are lesbians that do absolutely nothing, one is white, the other is fat and brown
> parallel earths saved by trans Pakistani genius
> only evil guy is white and deadname's the trans paki
> evil white dude wants all the world to be white, recurits army of Aryans
> solution for the Universe is for the weirdos from parallel Earths to live together in harmony.

Has Adrian always been this woke or is this book an exception? Avoid this piece of trash.

[Anonymous No.20212762]

>>20206240
never read Le Guinn except for a few excerpts professors assigned in school. does anyone here think that her prestige is outsized relative to her talent/creativeness?

[Anonymous No.20212774]

>>20211846
>your impressions are always just so incredibly superficial, and mostly dumb musings about totally irrelevant shit like the zeitgeist, mediums, general trends etc
Do you really expect more from than from 4chan posts that have no purpose other than amusement? Also, isn't that the opposite of pretentious?

>talk about almost everything except the actual book and its quality
When I wanted to talk about the actual book, I did so in discussions. Probably too much. Sometimes multiple max character 4chan posts each day. I could easily write several posts worth for each book, but for what purpose? As for the quality, in what objective way were you thinking? That seems more like literary pretensions to me.

I await your reply that meets your own standards.

>>20209304
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.20212780]

>>20212735
The market is a cruel mistress.

[Anonymous No.20212805]

>>20212735
if you're gonna take this approach to reading and be upset by anything that doesn't agree with your worldview it's probably best to ask for explicitly conservative writing from the getgo

[Anonymous No.20212841]

About halfway into the second A Thousand Li novel. The characters are really bland and the story is just the mc grinding money and training with nothing else going on. Any anons who read it already can tell me if there's any payoffs and I should push through for or just drop it and read something else?

[Anonymous No.20212846]

>>20212735
Weird, I read a couple of books by this guy over the years and ever time the characters turned out to be some sort of bug creature hybrid thing no matter the setting lol. I didn't think he actually wrote anything with humans in it.

[Anonymous No.20212874]

>>20212841
It's the weakest western cultivation series I've read without dropping
I've read books 1-5 and I didn't like the series at all until book 4 (and I only liked 4 and 5 as like 3/5 star books) so if you don't like it now you either have to be prepared to tough it out for a lot longer or just give up.
But I'll warn you that if you think it feels pointless now the third book outright annoyed me with how little anything in it mattered. The whole first "trilogy" of novels really doesn't accomplish much more than an introduction to the world

[Anonymous No.20212883]

>>20212762
I think she's a top 10 20th century SFF author, but very capricious and often annoying. If you try to skim her books you'll end up with wildly incorrect interpretations.

[Anonymous No.20212890]

>>20212874
>>20212841
Oh and also without spoiling anything things only pick up once the protagonist starts to become both stronger than their peers and unique in their powers so the whole initial premise of following a pretty average cultivator through the world is discarded because the author could just not find a way to make the story compelling within those restrictions.

[Anonymous No.20212893]

>>20212805
imagine defending a story where the only person smart enough to save the Universe in multiple parallel worlds with advanced technologies is a Pakistani tranny from London.

[Anonymous No.20212897]

>>20212893
Why are you reading stories with trans characters at all if you know they will upset you?

[Anonymous No.20212914]

>>20212883
>>20212890
I think I'll drop it and give virtuous sons or beware of chicken a read to round out my foray into cultivation stories. I can always come back to this series later if need be.

[Anonymous No.20212925]

>>20212735
It sounds like you need trigger warnings.

[Anonymous No.20212935]

>>20211937
That other guy is probably a weeaboo.
Out of those authors: Blish, Silverberg, and Simak can be confirmed as reliable in their work. You should read all of it, of course, but be forewarned that Anthony is the lowest kind of shitbag when it comes to attempting fanservice in his fumbling way, and was a documented groomer

[Anonymous No.20212945]

Is there any short SciFi/Fantasy literary content besides short-stories? Not talking about other media like games or comics. Have you found something that is popular?

[Anonymous No.20212958]

>>20212945
I have no idea what you mean by this. Short story is a length, not a form of content.

[Anonymous No.20212964]

>>20212897
It's not upsetting, it's just stupid. Being a troon destroys your mental acuity. Source: Have you ever been on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.20212967]

>>20212635
Vogt wasn't exactly the best at what he did, but he's terrific. Punchy plots and vivid internal narratives for inhuman characters, satisfying reads.
>>20212639
>https://urbigenous.net/library/vertex_pkd.html
Thanks for posting the link, it's not surprising Dick would know what was what

[Anonymous No.20212970]

>>20208207
Terra Ignota is science fiction by a historian, written in the style of the 18th century, though it takes place in the 25th. If you care about prose it's worth checking out if only for the novelty. Strong ideas, too.

[Anonymous No.20212971]

>>20212897
>>20212925
Dilate

[Anonymous No.20212975]

>>20212945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_fiction

[Anonymous No.20212978]

>>20212971
What function does this serve other than as a substitute for a downvote?

[Anonymous No.20212982]

>>20212978
what are downvotes?

[Anonymous No.20212992]

>>20212982
Disingenuous

[Anonymous No.20212999]

>>20212992
go back to wherever they use these "downvotes" faggot

[Anonymous No.20213002]

>>20212978
It actually elevates the thread's page rank so everyone can laugh at you.

[Anonymous No.20213006]

>>20212999 Please refer to >>20213002.
At least put the slightest thought into your post.

[Anonymous No.20213009]

>>20213006
suck my dick nigga

[Anonymous No.20213028]

>>20207864
Actually, the orc in that book is a lesbian with the demon

[Anonymous No.20213040]

>>20210444
i don't really care for short stories unless it's a series of short stories starring the same character

[Anonymous No.20213049]

>>20212846
How the hell is not waiting tranny in your books conservative?

[Anonymous No.20213071]

>>20210154
I just ended The Wheel of Ascension a couple of days ago I I juste dropped book 3 after the Elend introductory chapter, I can't fucking stand Vin and Elend's levels of mary-sue/gary-stu; how fucking convenient was that he became a Mistborn. I also hate how Sanderson just tells and doesn't show, every fucking introspective paragraph is used to make redundant remarks on a character; how many times do we need to read that Vin loves Elend; or that Ham and Clubs think he is a good and honest man; or about Kelsier being too cool for this world?, give me a fucking break. TenSoon, Marsh and Dockson were interesting characters in book 1 and 2, Breeze had his moments too.

[Anonymous No.20213093]

>>20212841
A thousand li is pretty bad, not sure why it gets recommended.

[Anonymous No.20213098]

>>20213071
I think having an alien/outsider perspective is actually something Sanderson writes surprisingly well, as TenSoon shows. Hell, arguably his best work (Emperor's Soul) is about a captive criminal from somewhere that's not where the story's set.

[Anonymous No.20213099]

>>20213049
In our society of weaponized memes, words are nothing more than their emotional connotations.

[Anonymous No.20213114]

>>20210325
I think he is running through my chart.

[Anonymous No.20213138]

Any Fantasy Literary Fiction chart? I don't want to read about sad teenagers with super powers.

[Anonymous No.20213139]

>>20213114
That's demonstrably false.
Your chart is not about xianxia.

[Anonymous No.20213147]

>>20213138
What do you want to read about?

[Anonymous No.20213178]

>>20213147
I was thinking about some kind of "fantasy slice of life" or "fantasy travel literature"; stories about common people who live in a fantasy world.

[Anonymous No.20213182]

>>20213138
>I don't want to read about sad teenagers with super powers
=(

[Anonymous No.20213209]

>>20213138
library at mount char

[Anonymous No.20213219]

>>20213114
I think he's just reading through progression fantasy stuff, and some of that includes a foray into xianxia.

[Anonymous No.20213226]

>>20213178
Have you ever read anything like this before or is it something you think you'd like? I ask this because you may not want what you think you want if you haven't read any.

Say for example, for slice of life: >>20206557
or for travel literature, Spice & Wolf.
There are various other examples, but I'll wait for your reply.

If your problem is that they aren't written well enough, then I don't know what to tell you, because that would be an exceedingly small niche for reasons both financial and cultural.

[Anonymous No.20213228]

>>20213178
I've not read it, but >>20206557 is very much a low-stakes slice of life thing in a fantasy setting as I understand it. Though it's not quite about common people, I think they're retired adventurers.

[Anonymous No.20213241]

>>20213182
>fatty
have a sabriel picture i commissioned for shitposting purposes

[Anonymous No.20213256]

>>20213241
I keep meaning to read Old Kingdom, but I keep getting distracted.

[Anonymous No.20213261]

>>20213226
>is it something you think you'd like?
This is the case. Take A Game of Thrones as an example (ASoIaF 1); the world has clear aspects of magic, but people live normal lives for the most part; they are not my favorite books but I liked how the status-quo didn't just revolve around who could cast the biggest fireball (with the exception of Daenerys I guess). I'd like something like that, I don't like "magic as a convenience".

[Anonymous No.20213281]

>>20212735
No, this is the only one and it's his worst novel by far. Extremely forced wokeshit, hasn't done it before or since.

[Anonymous No.20213320]

>>20213261
So, basically you want the fantasy aspects to only be the ambiance and the rest to be like a typical mainstream fiction novel?

[Anonymous No.20213327]

>>20213320
not sure, but it could be a good start, any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.20213336]

>>20212735
>Does this author always write woke garbage?
No, but he's a progressive liberal feminist who ironically can't write female characters at all

[Anonymous No.20213348]

>>20213327
No, not really. Magical realism novels do something like that, but it's not really the same. It's difficult to say because it's so unclear what you really want and aren't saying anything about what's wrong with the examples provided to narrow down the choices. Also, considering your choice of image, well, that only confuses matters.

I'm sure there's a lot of fanfiction and self-published that does this, but probably not an in acceptable way for you as far as I can tell, but I wouldn't know. If you wanted Science Fiction instead that would be a different matter.

[Anonymous No.20213381]

>>20213327
>>20213348
Then there's stuff like The Goblin Emperor, but that's more a fantasy of manners.

[Anonymous No.20213388]

>>20213381
or for that matter, Gormenghast.
Maybe Latro of the Mist.
It really all depends what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.20213391]

>>20213178
>>20213138
>>20213327
What you're describing is literally "The Buried Giant" by Ishiguro.

[Anonymous No.20213396]

>>20213348
Try Chalion, if the magic in that is too much for you you're gonna have to start looking for fantasy with no magic at all

[Anonymous No.20213424]

>>20213396 Piranesi
or really, Susanna Clarke in general.

[Anonymous No.20213434]

Any promising new writers?

[Anonymous No.20213446]

>>20213434
Me :)

[Anonymous No.20213451]

>>20213434
Sure, there are various teenagers writing commercially successful YA.

[Anonymous No.20213452]

>>20206264
It's pretty horrendous, yeah. I only suffered through it for a few really good characters, but unfortunately the author has acquired too much jew gold to care about finishing the books that earned him his fortune.
GRR is a major fucking dickhead.

[Anonymous No.20213469]

>>20213434
Jim Butcher of Dresden Files fame's son, James Butcher, has released his debut novel.

If that isn't what you meant, then you should be more specific in what you ask.

[Anonymous No.20213473]

>>20213469
It means what it means. Nepotism isn't it.

[Anonymous No.20213476]

>>20213281
Thanks for clearing that up, the wokeshit was uncalled for and just forced in a weak storyline. I ordered Echoes of the Fallen and Dogs of War after enjoying "Children of Time" and its sequel, I was going to cancel the order after reading "Doors of Eden".

[Anonymous No.20213488]

>>20213241
fatbriel is funnier though

[Anonymous No.20213490]

>>20213473
>It means what it means.
Reply Trawler

[Anonymous No.20213494]

>>20213434
I recently discovered a new-ish writer I've become a fan of. Only read 3 of his stories so far, but all of them were excellent modern Sword & Sorcery.

[Anonymous No.20213497]

>>20213476
>believing you can trust that poster
Surely you know better than that by now?
I would hope so anyway. Enjoy your disappointment.

[Anonymous No.20213512]

>>20213494
Not that anon.
Is this author from that free S&S magazine you've been reading?

[Anonymous No.20213516]

>>20213494
Are you gonna share with the class or is it your dad?

[Anonymous No.20213518]

[Anonymous No.20213521]

>>20213497
I've read all his non-Shadows of the Apt and Faghammer 40k books. Doors of Eden is the only one with forced wokeshit. Walking to Aldebaran has some satirical jabs at woke culture.

[Anonymous No.20213527]

>>20213518
I can understand that complaint but how bad can the first chapter be that you don't even finish it.

[Anonymous No.20213530]

>>20213518
>>20212925

[Anonymous No.20213539]

>>20213518
Completely justified review if it was dropped on Perdido Street Station. Fuck that author, completely unreadable.

[Anonymous No.20213547]

>>20213527
>>20213539
Is this your first /sffg/ thread or are you in denial?
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/185259234

[Anonymous No.20213555]

>>20213547
Oh, it's Bakkerposter.

[Anonymous No.20213556]

>>20213547
Ah, then the review is even more justified.

[Anonymous No.20213573]

>>20213547
>3000+ ratings
>99% of them are individual manga volumes and comic issues
For what fucking purpose?

[Anonymous No.20213583]

>>20213241
why is le oric a manlet?

[Anonymous No.20213595]

>>20213573
>intentionally trigger yourself
>present hyperbole
The purpose is obvious.

[Anonymous No.20213599]

>>20213595
YWNBAW, pseud. At best Type B.

[Anonymous No.20213605]

>>20213518
Should a person that is too stupid to understand words, and didn't read the book, really be allowed to give a review?

[Anonymous No.20213608]

>>20213599
Do you really think personal insults have any value against the average 4chan poster? Serious question.

[Anonymous No.20213610]

>>20213583
/ss/
also had him draw a loli pugna x kid ostarion pic

[Anonymous No.20213612]

>>20213608
>actual summerfag post
Nice.

[Anonymous No.20213614]

finally found a Howard 'Conan' book at my local used book store and lucky me it's it's a lovely collection for only $15 but man that foreward - I didn't know about his life.
>In June 1936 when he was told that his mother had sunk into a coma from which she would never recover, Howard walked out of the family home sat in his car outside the house and shot himself in the head.
Stories included: Shadows in the Moonlight, Queen of the Black Coast, The Devil in Iron, The People of the Black Circle, A Witch Shall Be Born, Jewels of Gwahlur, Beyond the Black River, Shadows in Zamboula, Red Nails

[Anonymous No.20213615]

>>20213518
This is a perfectly fair and accurate criticism of the book

[Anonymous No.20213620]

(The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker)

I don't really understand where he got that last half of the post from

[Anonymous No.20213621]

>>20213512
Yea. Chase Folmar. I also purchased and read a new book he released a week ago. His shit really stands out from the majority of modern S&S I've read.

[Anonymous No.20213624]

>>20213615
Not if the book is written in perfectly coherent modern English.

[Anonymous No.20213634]

>>20213624
It's not though, it's a deliberate infodump of invented places and names.
It's like having the opening of Mason & Dixon, a really good joke on the reader, played entirely straight for no real literary or narrative purpose.

[Anonymous No.20213635]

>>20213608
He is a post-'16fag so of course.

[Anonymous No.20213641]

>>20213612
I'm glad that you enjoyed that post.

[Anonymous No.20213643]

>>20213114
I'm using some random asshole's reddit list that happens to have titles coinciding with yours. I realize the distinction is largely arbitrary, but I prefer Cultivation to GameLit.

I've also wrapped up Reincarnation: Threads of Destiny and it's a proper piece of fucking shit. In the first book our Gary Stu manages to find 5 sacred relics of unspeakable power, his clan's weight in gold and gems, and enough storage spaces packed with materials to outfit the entirety of a village. The MC uses the core tenants of the cultivation system - qi threads - as fishing wire and nothing else. Meanwhile other cultivators have special techniques with no explanation for how they're formed.

It's as if the author went out of his way to plagiarize not only Reverend Insanity but Cradle. Except he's done everything significantly worse, even the edgy and increasingly meaningless murders. If I gave Reverend Insanity a 4/10, this gets a 3. That rounds out book 5 of my 20 book xianxia run... I'll post some scores here for those that have expressed interest.

Cradle series - 8/10. Caught up on the entire series.
Reverend Insanity - 4/10. Dropped after book one.
Bastion - 6/10. Will pick up book 2 when it releases.
Virtuous Sons - 6/10. Arc-based Royal Road production. I probably won't come back to this as it doesn't have a solid book/saga structure.
Threads of Fate: Reincarnation - 3/10. Dropped after book one.

Disclaimer being that Cradle was my first exposure to the genre, so I may be more partial to it than most. I find Will Wight to be a solid writer, read his the Traveler's Gate series as well. Next up is Forge of Destiny by Yrsillar. This book is also a Royal Road production but has a set book structure so... it's up in the air. Following that will be an anon's recommendation in this thread - A Thousand Li.

[Anonymous No.20213648]

>>20213624
The first few chapters are an obvious shit test. She's pleb for dropping that fast, but it's fair criticism.

>>20213620
This one is a glorified kitchen appliance.

[Anonymous No.20213650]

>>20213527
>but how bad can the first chapter be that you don't even finish it.
I dropped pic related after reading the DEDICATIONS page.
>Rob, this one is for you, brother. You better fucking know why.
What kind of tryhard curses in the DEDICATION page? Was too cringe to continue.

[Anonymous No.20213653]

What are some fantasy stories that feature a hero and a heroine who adventure together and end up romantically involved by the end without any bullshit subversion of my expectations concerning their relationship?

[Anonymous No.20213655]

>>20213653
Every generic fantasy, but you already knew that.

[Anonymous No.20213659]

>>20213655
Sorry I meant to add "good" to my requirements

[Anonymous No.20213661]

>>20213659
Then none.

[Anonymous No.20213670]

>>20213634
Words to complicate
Brain HURTY
1/5, hate Bakker
*shivers*


But seriously, that's the apt criticism, that there are too many invented given names, not that the vocabulary is too rich.

[Anonymous No.20213682]

>>20213620
Why would you ever think that Bakker hates poor people?

[Anonymous No.20213684]

>>20213643
I should make it a note that cultivation has a tendency to be very same-y because xianxia is very same-y as a rule so your claims of plagiarisation are more just the trappings of the genre, which're incredibly strict as-is. So to speak, if you're wanting cultivation without OP MCs, you're pretty much locking yourself to the few that use it more just as "hey a magic system" instead of being the entire story. I've heard Thousand Li's protagonist is pretty "normal", so maybe you'll like that one at least.
Also, does Bastion even count? Cradle has cultivation, sure, but I consider both it and Bastion to be progression fantasy in a more broad sense. I guess they both have the idea of tiering up and breaking through to more and more dangerous places, in a sense, that's something in common with xianxia.

[Anonymous No.20213690]

>>20213653
Cradle.

[Anonymous No.20213703]

Hello /sffg/, I want recommendations.

The first is a pretty generic request. I want to know which fantasy books are generally considered the best among this community.

The second is for fantasy authors with good prose. I tried reading Sanderson but I didn't make it very far because his prose is very clunky. I'm not talking Melville level (though I'd appreciate it), just something that's easier to read and doesn't feel like word salad.

The third is for books that you've found interesting. Doesn't have to fit in the other two categories. Just tell me about the most interesting fantasy books you've read.

[Anonymous No.20213706]

>>20209526
>I really, really hate how Jackson took 100% of the surprise out of Boromir's betrayal
Boromir is a non-character in the book. The movie developed him more, and this development included the arc of his temptation. LE TWEEST faggots must hang. Plus it makes Gandalf wiser for seeing through Ring's influence.

>I also hate how Arwen was given credit for Gandalf and Elrond's role in saving Frodo at the ford to Rivendell.
Is fine. Gives Arwen more chacter compared to the books, which makes her more justified in the role of Aragorn's love interest.

>I also dislike the portrayal of the cave troll.
Literally autism.

I'm not a moviefag, movie did numerous things things wrong, but so did the book, and you're bitching exclusively about legit improvements of the adaptation.

[Anonymous No.20213708]

>>20213682
That dude has never been laid or interacted with poor people.

[Anonymous No.20213710]

>>20213703
one & three
library at mount char

[Anonymous No.20213713]

>>20213071
>how fucking convenient was that he became a Mistborn
yeahhh I really hated this
specially with how much he built up the whole "we're so different" thing in book 2 with the evil half brother and all that

[Anonymous No.20213721]

>>20213690
Damn I was really hoping to avoid chinese and knockoff chinese stuff for the rest of my life. But if that's what I have to read for a wholesome relationship between companions then so be it

[Anonymous No.20213725]

>>20213713
It also felt like Elend just kind of... Had character development off-screen. I get there was a timeskip, but still. He's not much of a character to begin with, but even so, he felt abruptly different from book 2 to 3. He's suddenly this wise, rugged ruler and I'm like "Where the fuck did he learn this shit, he was just mildly useful the last book".

[Anonymous No.20213727]

>>20213721
Cradle is more comparable to western stuff in execution, it just has a Chinese-inspired aesthetic that sort of fades as the story goes on.

[Anonymous No.20213729]

>>20213653
Sun Wolf and Starhawk

[Anonymous No.20213733]

>>20213684
Started noticing that with the last book that I may have fallen into the trappings of the genre. My biggest problem isn't the OP MCs, its how much is simply given to them instead of earned. My example being Reincarnation...

The MC reincarnates into his 10 year old body in a backwater village of no particular renown. After winning a tournament with his profound experience, he's able to select something from the clan's treasure room. Before entering the treasure room everything is played incredibly straight. He's got very little expectation outside of getting a storage device - a pocket universe- for a long trip abroad. Luckily he finds one but notices that some of the studs on this storage device are colored black and white, eerily similar to his new dark and light chi powers. By activating his new powers, he discovered that the extra studs are storage universes of themselves... and crammed full of elixirs, pills, and all the resources he needs to craft himself into what he was in a fraction of the time.

It's a hollow experience when the entirety of the book is hinged on the idea of reincarnation, just to immediately undermine it. Similar situation happens in Reverend Insanity - his reincarnation causes a butterfly effect that changes historical events in his favor. Retarded. All my recommendations from others tend to cross xianxia and progression fantasy liberally. If you've got a better list or recommendations yourself, I'd appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.20213740]

>>20212967
Nice shelf. I've only read World of Null-A by him so far, what are your favorites?

[Anonymous No.20213744]

>>20213703
Try Discworld. Good prose, interesting, widely considered great. Pretty parodic throughout, I don't know if you mind that.
Guards! Guards! is often recommended as a starting point, or Mort. The first few books didn't find their footing yet.

[Anonymous No.20213756]

>>20213703
>The first is a pretty generic request. I want to know which fantasy books are generally considered the best among this community.
It's the same as most any other relevant fantasy community. The most popular and well-liked books aren't ever going to be the ones with "good prose". They can't be by definition.

Here's a list based on non-polled information from late 2020, not really in order:
The Way of Kings (The Stormlight Archive #1)
The Hobbit, or There and Back Again
The Fellowship of the Ring (The Lord of the Rings #1)
A Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Fire #1)
The Name of the Wind (The Kingkiller Chronicle #1)
The Shadow of the Torturer (The Book of the New Sun #1)
The Black Company (The Chronicles of the Black Company #1)
Nine Princes in Amber (The Chronicles of Amber #1)

>The second is for fantasy authors with good prose.
Good luck with receiving non-meme answers or those that aren't entirely personal opinion.

>The third is for books that you've found interesting
Not worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.20213769]

>>20213710
>>20213744
Thanks anons.

>>20213756
>It's the same as most any other relevant fantasy community.
I meant the general fantasy community, my bad.

>The most popular and well-liked books aren't ever going to be the ones with "good prose". They can't be by definition.
Why's that? Because they need mass appeal? How about asking for proper fantasy books that have literary merit?

>Not worth the effort.
Why?

[Anonymous No.20213776]

>>20213769
>literary merit?
You're reading genre fiction; it has no literary merit. With the sole exception of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series.

[Anonymous No.20213787]

>>20213690
Cradle is pozzed coomer shit

[Anonymous No.20213792]

>>20213620
It's amazing how these fags are utterly incapable of anything more than the most surface level reading possible.

[Anonymous No.20213797]

>>20213555
We had a good run, but it looks like they're just going to shit up the next few threads.

[Anonymous No.20213800]

>>20213733
>Reverend Insanity - his reincarnation causes a butterfly effect that changes historical events in his favor. Retarded
What? Did you even read it?

[Anonymous No.20213801]

>>20213792
Redditors are truly the greatest enemy of the human species

[Anonymous No.20213803]

>>20213800
Why would I read garbage?

[Anonymous No.20213805]

>>20213769
>Because they need mass appeal?
That's most of it, yes.

>literary merit
Literally a construct of literary academics. Anything that would be, wouldn't be called as such.
Example:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/18/it-drives-writers-mad-why-are-authors-still-sniffy-about-sci-fi

>Why? (not worth the effort)
Because I've already written it several times. If you want to read what I've already written, let me know.

[Anonymous No.20213808]

>>20213733
I'd recommend quit reading cultivation then. It's all full of this shit. Nearly every series has the MC tripping over a random rock only for that rock to be some super secret divine treasure.

[Anonymous No.20213834]

>>20213729
This looks interesting. Cheers

[Anonymous No.20213843]

>>20213808
Not that anon.
I hate that so much, almost always, which is why I don't read it and often have major problems with even lesser versions of that.

[Anonymous No.20213849]

>>20213803
You read cradle(?) so you clearly like reading trash.

[Anonymous No.20213853]

Any good time travel book to recommend me anons ?
I feel all the ones i've read have nonsensical endings

[Anonymous No.20213857]

>>20213853
All time travel books are shit.

[Anonymous No.20213858]

>>20213853
What wouldn't be a nonsensical ending to you or what makes them nonsensical?

[Anonymous No.20213869]

>>20213849
Cradle is halfway decent; Reverend Insanity is shit.

[Anonymous No.20213878]

new thread
>>20213873

[Anonymous No.20213881]

>>20213869
Cradle is garbage

[Anonymous No.20213882]

>>20213853
Do you mean "good" as in to the reader, or as in some objective sense? Does the anon have to have had read book to recommend it?

[Anonymous No.20213887]

>>20213881
Seethe, Reverend Insanity is terrible.

[Anonymous No.20213892]

>>20213800
The requirements of one of his academy exams alters to be boar tusks, the exact thing he's been amassing in droves, when in his previous life they were wolf teeth. This allows him to exploit the system more than he expected and buy pivotal Gu (ability cultivation bugs) for his rapid advancement. Both the strength and pattern of the 'dreaded wolf tide' that originally destroy his village alter, allowing him the time necessary to explore his secret 'kill everyone' inheritance. The ending itself requires his super duper reincarnation-change-fate Gu to throw him back in time for a second time to avoid his fate when he's finally up against the wall. This change of fate allows his rival to turn a killing blow into a glancing blow as well.

These are probably the least grievous missteps the first book takes but what the fuck can one expect from a Chinese author? You're also the most disingenuous faggot in these threads. Even Bakkerfags will commit to a debate about their series but you post the cover and lurk. Seethe.

>>20213808
If that's the case then fuck it, I'll end my book run after these last two.

[Anonymous No.20213894]

>>20213853
Stainless Steel Rat Saves The World
Absolutely incredible punchline at the end

[Anonymous No.20213895]

>>20213713
>>20213725
Yeah, I didn't buy it; Sanderson just comes up with stuff that makes no sense unless you really really suspend your disbelief (specially the military stuff)

[Anonymous No.20213905]

>>20213857
I'm starting to think the same
>>20213858
Not having any type of paradox at the end and just returning to your time with only minor or no changes other than the ''targeted'' ones
>>20213882
Not necessarily all recommendations are welcome

[Anonymous No.20213907]

>>20213849
I think I'd like Reverend Insanity if he wasn't an amoral villain type.

Keep the same setup of timetravel and the cultivation system but have someone way more restrained by their morality to up the difficulty

[Anonymous No.20213914]

>>20213895
It’s fantasy, you’re supposed to suspend your belief.

[Anonymous No.20213923]

>>20213744
Honestly, it's best to read from the beginning I find. Colour of Magic and Light Fantastic aren't THAT bad, they're just 6/10s by the standards of Discworld, where nearly everything else is a 7 or and 8 at least.

[Anonymous No.20213931]

>>20213905
>Not having any type of paradox at the end and just returning to your time with only minor or no changes other than the ''targeted'' ones
Is that the nonsensical or sensible ending?

[Anonymous No.20213933]

>>20213853
The Man Who Folded Himself
The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate
—All You Zombies—
https://qntm.org/ed

>>20213923
I started with them and liked them, but I think you should start someone off with a really solid installment. Otherwise they might very well drop it even if they'd have enjoyed the later books.

[Anonymous No.20213941]

>>20213914
I hate this kind of argument. You suspend your disbelief for certain things but not all. I'm fine suspending my disbelief for magic and the like, but I find constant miraculous coincidences or inconsistencies to be issues.

[Anonymous No.20213943]

>>20213733
Tried pic-related, for cultivation stuff? I dunno if the protagonist is too Stu-y (the premise is he got isekai'd once already, but got betrayed by his supposed guide and then, 40 years later, makes his way back and starts afresh in the magic worlds), but so far (I've only read the first book) he hasn't really just randomly gotten things. He's mostly used his knowledge from his last trip and some Earth knowledge to get something of a leg-up.

[Anonymous No.20213950]

>>20213895
It's not suspension of disbelief, it's just poor storytelling. Timeskips are all well and good, but you can't drastically alter major characters too siginificantly during them unless it's, like, an age-up timeskip or something.

[Anonymous No.20213954]

>>20213914
To suspend disbelief about the material world is fantasy. To suspend disbelief about human nature is Jewery.

[Anonymous No.20213962]

>>20213931
The nonsensical (in my opinion)

>>20213894
>>20213933
Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.20213963]

>>20213905
Do you mean you want a time travel novel where because of the changes they make in the past when they return to the future everything has entirely changed? I think most are about exploring the past rather than changing the present/future. At least in terms of books anyway. Most movies and tv series about time travel seem to be about keeping the present as it is, and usually failing at it.

[Anonymous No.20213982]

>>20213941
>but I find constant miraculous coincidences or inconsistencies to be issues.
Like in real life?

[Anonymous No.20213994]

>>20213892
Actually it was wildlife honey, and it is understandable, this time the academy class had much higher fighting power, it makes sense for them to be given a more difficult (and dangerous) task. Also the butterfly effect was mentioned maybe three times, it literaly had little effect on the overal story.

[Anonymous No.20213997]

>>20213982
Not that anon.
Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn’t - Mark Twain

[Anonymous No.20214008]

>>20212805
>Taking exception to transvestite apologist fanatics means you're "a conservative" now

Funny ol world lol

[Anonymous No.20214014]

>>20213907
>Keep the same setup of timetravel and the cultivation system but have someone way more restrained by their morality to up the difficulty
Boring

[Anonymous No.20214019]

>>20213853
The Time Traveller's Almanac: The Ultimate Treasury of Time Travel Fiction - Brought to You from the Future

[Anonymous No.20214024]

>>20213997
Nonetheless, what I still said holds up.

[Anonymous No.20214039]

Kek, this is for posting roasties in op

[Anonymous No.20214041]

>>20213994
It's never communicated why the change occurs, just that it does. I listed all 3 of the butterfly effect occurrences in this book and each one either directly benefit's the MC's cultivation or saves his life. Funny you didn't recall these occurrences in your first post questioning me. This just proves that you're a disingenuous faggot, thanks. God damn do I hate the Chinese.

[Anonymous No.20214045]

>>20212735
Sounds like the author has been spending too much time in England

[Anonymous No.20214049]

>>20214024
Not really. When I read a book, I'm not reading it to see a replication of real life but to read a self contained story that make sense.

[Anonymous No.20214050]

>>20213853
Oh shit forgot The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August
technically reincarnation at birth rather than time travel but it's close enough, incredible book

[Anonymous No.20214059]

new thread
>>20214054

[Anonymous No.20214063]

Which, if any, of Will Wights non-cradle stuff is worth reading?

[Anonymous No.20214071]

>>20214039
You need help.

[Anonymous No.20214075]

>>20214039
Why are you so gay?

[Anonymous No.20214078]

>>20214063
I'd say all of it, personally. Elder Empire's split books thing is a little awkward, but the story it tells is pretty solid and the protags of each book are decent. Traveler's Gate has a completely nothing protagonist, but the rest of the cast is pretty good, the plot is a little all over the place, and you can see Will Wight's fight-writing really shine too. None of his stuff is bad, at any rate.

[Anonymous No.20214100]

>>20214041
How did earlier and stronger wolf tide benefited mc? (It did not).Again it is quite irrelevant, these are small details. yeah some things have changed because mc acted differently than in his past life, in later books many more things changes because of mc actions, this is within expectations. I am not entirely sure why you are so butthurt about butterfly effect, even if it was not mentioned, it is a common theme with time travel stories.

[Anonymous No.20214106]

>>20214063
I liked Traveler's Gate
didn't hold up as much on second read but it's basically just whiteboy shonen so if you're inclined to enjoy that you'll like it

[Anonymous No.20214112]

Any reason why the other thread was deleted other than one fag reporting it?

[Anonymous No.20214148]

>>20214112
Are you a janny?

[Anonymous No.20214169]

Anyone got Aspect Emperor books in epub mobi they're not on libgen

[Anonymous No.20214198]

>>20214169
No, why would anyone want those shot series.

[Anonymous No.20214237]

>>20214198
I'm bored and I want to see Achamian seething more

[Anonymous No.20214253]

>>20214237
Read a better series then.

[Anonymous No.20214261]

>>20214253
It doesn't feature the character of Achamian because it's not the same series

[Anonymous No.20214373]

>>20214169
Just use z-library. I think it uses the same library as libgen, but the far better search function makes it way easier to find things. And they are there.

[Anonymous No.20214498]

>>20206240
guys what are some books similar to dark souls? and no, pls don't say berserk or other manga shit.

[Anonymous No.20214508]

>>20214498
berserk

[Anonymous No.20214516]

>>20214373
yeah not going to register

[Anonymous No.20214525]

>>20214516
You don't need to register though.

[Anonymous No.20214572]

>>20214525
ah the site confused me thanks

[Anonymous No.20214758]

>>20212237
I tried it was too generic for me so I looked up reviews about 40% through and saw that the actual demonic shit I was reading it for is an extremely small part of the ending so I put it down

[Anonymous No.20215187]

So why did a braindead jannie close the other thread?

[Anonymous No.20215189]

jannies on high alert

[Anonymous No.20215191]

>>20215187
This thread still exists.

[Anonymous No.20215197]

>>20215187
Probably due to the off-topic posts.

[Anonymous No.20215200]

>>20215191
This thread is on fuckin page 10. lmao

[Anonymous No.20215201]

New thread
>>20215184

[Anonymous No.20215206]

>>20215197
Probably this.

[Anonymous No.20215229]

>>20215197
>NFTs discussion
>/pol/ bullshit
>Other bullshit
Not a surprise they delete it.

[Anonymous No.20215233]

>>20215229
And yet, the retards here will never learn.

[Anonymous No.20215239]

>>20215233
>>20215229
You're both off-topic as well, so am I.

[Anonymous No.20215256]

>>20215239
Don’t defend yourself. Next time you see off-topic bullshit just ignore it so the thread won’t be deleted.

[Anonymous No.20215283]

>>20215201
And just like that, dumb fucks are still doing it.

[Anonymous No.20215288]

>>20215229
And yet, some of this shit was on topic.

[Anonymous No.20215292]

>>20215288
No it wasn’t and you know it wasn’t.

[Anonymous No.20215307]

>>20215292
Yet it was.
Take the /pol/ shit, much of it was bitching about identity politics in sff books. Same with the NFT stuff which was centered around a scifi author creating NFTs around his scifi books.