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What is the difference between fantasy and magic realism?

>> No.20204316

>>20204310
magic realism is set in the real world, and it much more subtle

>> No.20204321

>>20204310
The former is onions half the time, the latter is always onions

>> No.20204378

>>20204310
Fantasy has an otherworld, magic realism has an altered real world.

>> No.20204534

>>20204310
Number of book sales.

>> No.20204549

>>20204310
Fantasy is from the perspective of a writer who doesn't believe the supernatural elements of the story actually exist in real life. The story basically asks, "wouldn't it be cool if this stuff actually existed?"

However, magic realism assumes the supernatural elements of the story are actually realistic. Thus, the story treats the supernatural elements as mundane and part of everyday life.

>> No.20204632

>>20204321
le onions!

>> No.20205118

idk

>> No.20205552

>>20204310

unicorns vs no unicorns

>> No.20205563

Magic realism is a bourgeoisified form of real imagination, it's "just a dash" of whimsy so that the bourgeois palate never has to be challenged. It's custom designed for retards like the FAGGOT READING THIS POST RIGHT NOW!

>> No.20205572

Magical realism has an ironic almost detached attitude towards the supernatural. It came from Latin America because Latin Americans took at face value and uncritically whatever was demanded of them by their colonisers. They abandoned their traditions and tried to ape America. Magical realism is an apreciation of the hidden traditions and mystical aspects of life that would oridinarily be seen as outlandish or even ordinary. One Hundred Years of Solitude starts with gypsies coming to the town of Macondo. They present a huge block of ice to the inhabitants as an oddity to look at. José Arcadio Buendía however sees that block of ice, as a definite proof of God and that alchemy is the way to understand his works. Ordinarily a huge block of ice isn't something miraculous, but the book continues in this way with more outlandish and near supernatural events which are mostly ignored, showing the thread of destiny that runs through the town of Macondo.

>> No.20205579

>>20204310
fantasy has magic or fantastical things that are thematically real as a concrete force in setting. while magical realism has magic or mystical happenings that you cannot quite assume are concrete in setting. it may be hallucination, it may be allegorical or representational, it may be real etc.

>> No.20205580

>>20204310
Idiotic replies so far. Fantasy is an alien other world where everything that is happening is perfectly within the bounds of the world's natural laws. Magical realism is the transgression of the natural laws of a world. Magical realism is based and fantasy is for autists who don't understand how the unknown is an essential element to manifestation of miracles.

>> No.20205583

>>20205572
More like the thread of gay. My gf made me read that book.

>> No.20205596

>>20205572
i dropped that book about 300 pages in, should i give it another go? i really didn't get the appeal, it was a very slow and mostly boring read

>> No.20205602

>>20205572
I dont think ironic is the right word. more like sublime. the interplay of the real and the mystical, where the two may interact, but they rarely acknoledge the other besides maybe as paradies, iterpretations of each other.

>> No.20205609

>>20205563
/thread
For proof, see >>20205580

>> No.20205630

>>20205580
I hate transgressions of the natural laws. I'd Strike the Sun If It Insulted Me.

>> No.20206505

>>20205596
>slow
There's shit happening every sentence lel
You probably see it as slow if you're a plot focused person, because there isn't one in the book

>> No.20206611

>>20205572
This was the first book that showed me how good literature could really be. A friend recommended it to me and I found a copy in the school library. Think I was probably about 14 at the time.

For those who are thinking of reading it, do yourself a favour and get a copy with a family tree at the front. My copy happened to have one and I'm not ashamed to admit I would have probably been filtered by the amount of Jose's and Aurelio's otherwise.

>> No.20206618

Magic Realism bro's - if I love Marquez and Murakami, what should I read next?

>> No.20206703

>>20206618
The Palm-Wine Drinktard by Amos Tutuola

>> No.20206708

>>20204310
Honestly? Fantasy is held to a lower standard. That's literally it.

>> No.20206715

>>20205572
>It came from Latin America because Latin Americans took at face value and uncritically whatever was demanded of them by their colonisers. They abandoned their traditions and tried to ape America.
This is kind of nonsensical. I'd disagree the tone is ironic, as well.
>>20206618
I haven't read Murakami, but I'd recommend Pedro Páramo. It's a very important influence on Márquez's work. Also it's pretty short and a great read honestly.
Some people also swear by House of the Spirits, by Allende. It shamelessly bites Marquez's style, kind of a chilean 100 years. Fair to say though, it's a more divisive work, but it's worth checking out I think.

>> No.20206880

>>20206618
Dino Buzzati

>> No.20206936

>>20205572
This genre has nothing to do with muh colonisers or aping the USA. Is this what they teach in liberal universities? lmao

>> No.20208529

>>20204310
How pretentious you want to be about reading fantasy.

>> No.20208819

>>20205580
Not true for all fantasy.

>> No.20210021

>>20204310
Zero difference if you're an idiot.

>> No.20210862

>>20204632
yes

>> No.20210923
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20210923

Nothing but pure pretension. It's as Gene Wolfe himself once said:

>Magical realism is just fantasy written in Spanish.

>> No.20210957

>>20204310
>fantasy
Unrealistic setting
>magic realism
Realistic setting with unrealistic attributes

>> No.20210964

>>20205563
Wow, you use Marxist terminology. You must be really smart.

>> No.20211762

>>20210957
So Twilight is magic realism?

>> No.20211879

>>20206505
with slow i meant the time it took me to even get to page 300. with most other books i'll read 500 pages in one week but i couldn't read more than 10 pages of this book because of how boring it was. the only character i kind of liked was the old guy who went insane or something, i don't remember it too well. it also felt weird how marquez described remedios as this sex-godess