/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20195296]

>Billions of native speaker
>Only literary classics was written by a Jew in the 16th century
>Virtually non-existent philosophy

[Anonymous No.20195302]

>>20195296
Only literary classic *that you know.*

[Anonymous No.20195364]

>>20195302
If it hasn't been translated into English it's not even close to being a classic, that's the most basic test for even minimal literary relevance.

[Anonymous No.20195430]

>>20195296
I assume you mean Don Quixote, which is great but hardly the only literary classic is Spanish language. Cervantes isn't a Jew in any sense. His family is shrouded in mystery and probably always will, the only clearly proven thing is that several of his close ancestors were not marranos, though his mother probably had partial Jewish ancestry.
As for philosophy you could claim it's largely all written in Latin but is that really what you are implying? Even then there are a few in Spanish language like Gracian, Donoso Cortes, Xubiri, etc.

[Anonymous No.20195459]

>>20195296
Read Lorca, retard.

[Anonymous No.20195479]

>>20195364
So you complain about a language you don't even know and only read translations? This has to be bait.

[Anonymous No.20195490]

>>20195430
>probably had partial Jewish ancestry
So a jew basically

[Anonymous No.20195497]

>>20195296
monolingual anglo primate

[Anonymous No.20195500]

>>20195479
I know more than you, but English is the first language any literary work of note is translated into, if it hasn't passed this bar then it's some parochial scribblings that would be forgotten were it not for nationalist reasons.

[Anonymous No.20195528]

>>20195500
It’s a very shallow mind that thinks good art = popular art. This clearly doesn’t apply to films or music so why would it apply to books? I bet there’s so many great books out there forgotten and unknown.

[Anonymous No.20195677]

>>20195364
Try harder next time, languagelet

[Anonymous No.20195692]

>>20195364

[Anonymous No.20196141]

>>20195497
this

[Anonymous No.20196147]

>>20195296
>billions
not true
>only literary classic...
that you know about in your narrow mind
>virtually non....
wrong too. They're just not mainstream like the usual "philosopers" you've read

[Anonymous No.20196191]

>>20195296
whats the big deal, philosophy/literature is not the prerogative of every civilization

spaniards were a martial race

[Anonymous No.20196205]

>>20195296
>warm weather
>lots of sunlight
>hot warm-blooded women who want to fuck
You have to understand that almost all philosophy and great literature is the fruit of a root called being-without-pussy, a neurosis of the northern temperament.
Think about german and anglo literature and philosohpy - top notch tier. Now think about what german and anglo women look like.
There you have it.

[Anonymous No.20196213]

>>20196205
>ARE YE CUMMING OUT THE-NOIGHT TO BUTTER UP ME MINGE LUV?
No thanks, I think I would prefer to finish writing Process and Reality

See what I mean?

[Anonymous No.20196240]

>>20196205
>Think about german and anglo literature and philosohpy - top notch tier. Now think about what german and anglo women look like.
yet greek philosophy and women mog them both

how does that work out?

[Anonymous No.20196245]

Are you serious, OP?

[Anonymous No.20196341]

>>20196205
this, philosophy are nothing but a cope

[Anonymous No.20196422]

>>20195364
Get your anglocentric ass outta this board cracka

[Anonymous No.20196435]

>>20196205
>warm weather
>lots of sunlight
>hot warm-blooded women who want to fuck
None of those assumptions are a constant across Latin America or Spain, not even within tropical regions

[Anonymous No.20196443]

>>20196205
This. Literature is an extension of a mental condition called rumination.

[Anonymous No.20196459]

>>20195296
Zalamea

[Anonymous No.20196470]

>>20195500
The pinnacle of human linguistics, according to this retard.

[Anonymous No.20196484]

>>20195500
you can shove your bait right up your rectum

[Anonymous No.20196486]

>>20196470
>first *nglo is fifth
Oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.20196565]

>>20196191
>spaniards were a martial race
That lost every war. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.20196580]

>>20196470
Literally no French book lmao
Even Astérix was written by a jew and an Italian
So much for the country of letters and laws.

[Anonymous No.20196587]

>>20196580
>literally no french book
>second book is french

[Anonymous No.20196589]

>>20195528
popularity =/= translation, nigger. It takes ONE person to recognize that something is good and translate it into english (by far the most popular western laguage).

[Anonymous No.20196596]

>>20195296
You're retarded. There isn't even a lack of translations. If it's not a lit meme or on an entry level university reading list, it mustn't be any good eh?

[Anonymous No.20196598]

>>20196587
Children literature don't count.

[Anonymous No.20196626]

>>20196205
Yes anon you're right, really what philosophy has ever come out of the south of Europe?

[Anonymous No.20196634]

>>20196626
>south of Europe
Only North Italy which is nordic in race
Name me one Iberberians or Greek philosopher born after 1000

[Anonymous No.20196665]

>>20196634
>Muh this area is le Nordic (source: the deep recesses of my anus)
>After 1000
What is the relevance of the year? You have already btfo'd yourself because you can only maintain your retardation by placing some arbitrary year boundary
Why don't you just stop posting

[Anonymous No.20196681]

>>20196626
Ortega y Gasset

[Anonymous No.20196687]

>>20195296
>litlet

[Anonymous No.20196693]

>>20195490
most sephardic jews were conversos so...

[Anonymous No.20196695]

>>20196589
>It takes ONE person to recognize that something is good and translate it into english
Do you even speak another language? This has to be bait.

[Anonymous No.20196723]

>>20196681
I think there are some more obvious examples than that

[Anonymous No.20198152]

>>20195364
This has to be bait. No way someone is this retarded.

[Anonymous No.20198583]

Linguistic determinism exists. Each language has major differences in information density and frequency. English and German happen to be the most information dense which is why all philosophy of note comes from them. All extant romance languages have undergone regression from Latin. Another failure of low information density langauges is their simplicity which fails to stimulate the linguistic faculties of the brain. English is derided by non native speakers for being illogical as is the customary measurement system but the idiosyncrasies inherent to the them lend themselves to more rigorous training of the brain during development. If I give a kid a 5 pound weight and I give another a 15 pound weight, the bigger weigh is going to do more for him by the time he matures. Its much easier to crunch metric, simply multiply or divide by 10, 100, virtually no though or mental arithmetic required. The complexities, the varying pronunciations of choice letters (eg, j,g) idioms, exceptions to nearly all rules and conventions of grammar are not faults but boons to the language. A bigger weight. A bigger muscle. English has the bulk of philosophies and classics to back it up. Spanish and Japanese haven't produced anything of value. We are what we speak as much as we are what we eat.

[Anonymous No.20198595]

>>20195490
Most Spanish probably have some Sephardic ancestry if you trace back to medieval ages.

[Anonymous No.20198615]

>>20198583
But has not French deteriorated and been simplified into just as vulgar and uncomplex a form of Latin as Spanish has? How do you explain it?

[Anonymous No.20198628]

>>20198583
Your post has very high information density. It is very dense, so to speak.

[Anonymous No.20198796]

>>20195364
>>20198583
>You share a board with retards like this

[Anonymous No.20198832]

>>20195430
>isn't a Jew in any sense
>his mother probably had partial Jewish ancestry
What is wrong with you people?

[Anonymous No.20198890]

>>20198615
Spanish and French are more complex than English. Get off your high horse.

[Anonymous No.20198964]

>>20198796
>no retort reddit response
>>20198628
>low IQ reddit sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.20198965]

Yeah this is the impression I got
People told me that Spanish was worth reading for literature but couldn't actually substantiate that claim relative to other languages, all they could do was act surprised that I even asked
I decided to learn French instead, at least I can see lists of books worth reading in that language

[Anonymous No.20199022]

>>20195296
>Billions of native speaker
>implying Spanish is all one language
You're also missing half of America and the Philippines. I expect that's why your map is approaching Comic Sans and your knowledge of history and literature is limited to one Jew.

[Anonymous No.20199059]

>>20198965
You can also see lists of books worth reading in Spanish. Not sure what is this meme

[Anonymous No.20199079]

>>20198583
>Spanish and Japanese haven't produced anything of value.
Only a retarded pleb could make dismissive comments such as this. You're not as smart as you think you are. German is much more logical than English yet it has produce more philosophy which proves your whacko theory wrong.

[Anonymous No.20199093]

>>20199059
Yeah Harold Bloom has a small list
It's just not a first class language to learn frankly

[Anonymous No.20199116]

>>20199079
Says the retard with no reading comprehension.
>English and German happen to be the most information dense which is why all philosophy of note comes from them

[Anonymous No.20199117]

>>20199093
What a 'first class' language is greatly depends on your interests. Italian and Spanish are first class for me and I have read literature than I couldn't have properly experienced otherwise.

[Anonymous No.20199166]

>>20199116
But that's false. If being information-dense was the reason why a language produced quality philosophy then English would've produced greater philosophers than German as it's more information-dense. Also, the list of English philosophers pales in comparison to the list of French philosophers (yet French is less information heavy). Your amateurish theories are too imbecilic and oversimplified to be taken seriously. This is not the reason why.

[Anonymous No.20199169]

>>20195296
weak bait

[Anonymous No.20199286]

>>20195364
Based

[Anonymous No.20199295]

>>20196589
This is not how it works.

[Anonymous No.20199305]

>>20196598
It does but thats not exclusively a children's book.

[Anonymous No.20199336]

>>20195364
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.20199343]

>>20199336
lots of classics went untranslated to English for many years.

[Anonymous No.20199508]

>>20195364
>Caring about literary relevance
Not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.20199678]

>>20198890
>Implying it's not far more consistent and logical than English due to a largely ordered Latin base, compared to Anglo speak which is a la creatura of vulgarised Latin, Germanic influence, Nordic, native Briton and some Greek
I'm not even suggesting he is correct because France, by the metric of 'bulk of philosophies and classics', is perhaps on a similar level to the Anglo and German, but English is certainly more difficult to truly learn as it is a vile monstrosity and neither is it any more efficient than French regarding anon's 'information density' idea.

It may appear easier because the Anglo has unfortunately dominated the world culturally, so the average person has been exposed to the language more than any other, but if you were to learn either one without any prior experience, French syntax and structured grammar is far more reasonable than Anglo inconsistency

[Anonymous No.20199700]

>>20199678
English grammar is caveman tier but the difficulty is on how retared some exception are and the chaotic pronunciation. French and Spanish are syntactically more complex and richer in this aspect. There are tenses that don't even exist in English.

[Anonymous No.20199711]

>>20199678
>but English is certainly more difficult to truly learn as it is a vile monstrosity

[Anonymous No.20199928]

>>20199700
Yes but even if there is technically "more" to learn it's easier to learn a table of inflections than a vast number of invisible inconsistencies embedded throughout the language

[Anonymous No.20200716]

>>20196580
meh 1/3 of the english language is french so english books count as french books, thanks sweetie

[Anonymous No.20200737]

>>20198583
>english has the bulk of philosophies
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.20200751]

>>20195296
>written by a Jew
why are Spaniards in particular so worried about crypto-Jewry?

[Anonymous No.20200753]

>>20198583
Jesus Christ the absolute state.

[Anonymous No.20200771]

>>20195296
Don't worry! We're all wrong, sometimes.
Sometimes, we're even too confused to realize, even with help.

What helps is calming down, sitting down with a nice book, and just unwind.

I would recommend Murakami or Rushdie!

[Anonymous No.20200776]

>>20198583
Spain literally developed all the ideas Angloid came up with centuries before them
>When Martínez de la Mata declared that labor was the only true source of wealth, he was in so much the precursor of Adam Smith (1723-1790). Some economists expressed ideas which sound strangely like those set forth by Spencer, Wallace, Tolstoy, and others in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, such as the following: that immovable property should be taken away from the private individuals possessing it, and be redistributed under the control of the state; and that society should be considered as having legal title to lands, giving only the user to individuals. Luis Vives was one of the representatives of these ideas
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40646/40646-h/40646-h.htm (ctrl+f the segment quoted)
Angloids just copied them without giving them credits, as usual with these lying rats

[Anonymous No.20200993]

No se porqué se molestan en discutir con estos acomplejados. No hay nada que puedan decir que cambiara la mentalidad de esta gentuza.

[Anonymous No.20201042]

>>20195364
The truthbomb that fart-huffers weren't ready for

[Anonymous No.20201075]

>>20201042
Most classics of Spanish literature have been translated, however...

[Anonymous No.20201298]

who is roberto bolaño?

[Anonymous No.20201441]

>>20195430
Donoso wrote in french

[Anonymous No.20201448]

the best literature of the 20th century was written in spanish, I don't know what else do you expect from them.

[Anonymous No.20201466]

>>20198583
English is a pidgin of itself, due to mixing not only with the normans from the high classes but also with the danish from the lower classes, hence why shit like gender, cases and other stuff thats present in almost all other languages is ommited in english. English also had a great vowel shift in the 1500s drastically changing the vowel pronounciation. Due to these facts what makes English difficult is not that its an inhernetly difficult language, its that its bascially 3 languages at once and most of its difficulty is based in proper pronounciation and spelling rather than in grammar.
Slavic languages for example can make every noun+adjective+adverb into an euphemism (dog->doggy), they with germanic languages also have cases, so instead of saying dám to k Ján / I will give it to John, you will say dám to Jánovi / I will give it to John, but the Genitive is missing in translation.
Shit post read more

[Anonymous No.20201659]

>>20199678
English is one of the easiest languages to learn kek.
It is hard if you go into it looking for reasoning behind how it works, but if you just keep plowing through english content, you will pick it up quickly without ever stepping into an academy.

[Anonymous No.20201668]

>>20195364
There are tons of masterpieces written in Spanish and translated in English, stop exposing your self as a non-reading brainlet

[Anonymous No.20201674]

>>20196341
"Cope" as a concept, does not exist

[Anonymous No.20201875]

>>20201441
also, but not exclusively.

[Anonymous No.20201907]

>>20195500
>but English is the first language any literary work of note is translated into
I've read japanese, french, italian and eastern european books that you will never read.

[Anonymous No.20201921]

>>20198583
Are you baiting or did you have a stroke this morning?

[Anonymous No.20202085]

>>20198583
top tier bait