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20194290 No.20194290 [Reply] [Original]

Subvocalization is good.
Reading slow is good.
Re-reading sentences is good.

>> No.20194382

>>20194290
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

>> No.20194411

>>20194290
If you aren't vividly hallucinating the narrative at the pace that feels true to the scene, then are you even reading?

>> No.20194903

>>20194411
Also make sure to stop reading whenever there's a time skip for the amount of time that the skip is. I wonder if I'll ever finish Rip Van Winkle...

>> No.20194914

>>20194290
Reading slow is extremely good when the reason for the slowness is stopping to think and analyze. Not many books are written for reading like that as most of them are too shallow to warrant any thinking.

>> No.20195248

How the fuck do you read without subvocalization?

>> No.20195257

Someone said in a recent poetry thread: it doesn't matter how poetry sounds anymore since we mainly read it.

>> No.20195260

>>20195248
Be an NPC

>> No.20195265

>>20195257
You can read it out loud. What a retard.

>> No.20195649
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20195649

>No I do not subvocalize, I read out lout.

>> No.20195663

>>20194290
Based. People who speed read are subhuman. I'll never understand the kind of person who reads someone like Cormac without taking their time. The best authors took their time creating prose that has dynamics and movement and is constantly flowing and playing around with language. You miss all of that when you read too quickly. It's academic's approach to art, whereby the words are little more than the gateway to concepts and information. If the author warrants it, I'll take my time and read slowly, listening to the voice in my own head recite the words and savor the flow of the thing.

The kind of person who speeds through literary excellence is the same kind of person who wonders who Mona Lisa was. Subject and meaning and information are all worthless. It is the mastery of the artistic medium itself which has value in an era where information is cheap and omnipresent. It's the manipulation of the medium itself where everything messy and human and where everything personal lives. It's where the artist's voice lies. Actually fucking listen to it instead of powering through with a companion reader to "make sure you understand."

>> No.20195732

>>20195663
>Based. People who speed read are subhuman.
Booktubers. They probably skip dozens of pages per book if not more.
>look at these 20 books i read last month

>> No.20195790

>>20194290
based subvocalization and read out loud defenders. The Bible was written to sound good while read out loud, the Illiad was supposed to be sung. Speed reading is degenerate

>> No.20195816

>>20195248
When you grow up and stop narrating everything in your mind. Stop daydreaming and just read.

>> No.20196562

>>20194411
when i get in the zone and actually do this its crazy.

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>>20194290
>tfw the prose takes over and you start to see it

woah

>> No.20197238

>>20194290
Yeah I've started to come around these. They are good for complex thoughtful passages and to feel the music in the words.
>>20196643
>>20194411
These are great but not every written sentence is a scene.

>> No.20197280

If you re-read the sentences that means you have low reading comprehension. That doesn't mean of course you have low IQ, but I wouldn't bet on you. But don't worry you can improve it by trying to understand what you read I think I don't know.

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>>20197238
it's not really sight

>> No.20197933

>>20194411
What does this have to do with subvocalization?

>> No.20197947

>>20194914
Which is why most readers don't read most books. Most readers read the best books.

>> No.20197952

>>20195816
I can't read without subvocalization because I have an overactive mind and if I don't subvocalize then something else needs to take it's place (most likely a song) and that's very distracting. That doesn't mean I have subvocalize every word in my mind to understand it, if you heard my inner voice when reading you wouldn't understand anything because I'm not finishing most of the words and sentences in my head, it's just there to keep me focused on the text.

>> No.20197960

>>20194290
Yes. I can't read philosophy without subvocalizing.

>> No.20197972

I read plays at least twice. First, out loud in plain voice. The second time, out loud and doing all the characters. It makes it so much more enjoyable

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>>20195649
Fellow chad.

>> No.20198663

>>20194382
>no refutation
>no refutation
>no refutation
Cope cope and cope. Subvocalization engages the mind more and leads to greater recall. Sorry you're an ADHD zoomed who likes to pretend moving his eyes across text is doing jack shit.

>> No.20198708

>>20195248
It is physically impossible. What they meant is that you can read without consciously noticing you are subvocalizing. Think of it like this. If somebody says “how are you”, you can understand them without repeating it to yourself. Similarly you can read a line and comprehend it without “hearing it”, you just see it and comprehend it. If you see the word “red” you can know what it means without saying it to yourself

>> No.20198716

>>20194290

NO! SYNTHESIZING NEW INFORMATION IS IRRELEVANT!! ITS A RACE AND I"M WINNING CAUSE IVE READ/OWN THE MOST BOOKS!!!!