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Anonymous Thu Apr 7 13:33:50 2022 No.20186525 [Reply] [Original]

>Mucho Maas
>Dr Hilarius
seriously...?

what is the appeal of this book?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 13:38:33 2022 No.20186542 >>20186525 >NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT HAVE CHARACTERS WITH WEIRD/SILLY NAMES, YOU MUST NAME EVERYONE BORING SHIT LIKE JOHN SMITH OR JAMES SCOTT. SILLINESS IS LE BAD

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 13:40:47 2022 No.20186550 File: 15 KB, 251x242, 6dBt2Oj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Oedpia settled back to await The Crying of Lot 49.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 13:53:09 2022 No.20186605 >>20186525 I can’t understand how someone can read the description of Mucho as a used car salesman and not get hooked on Pynchon. Maybe the scene hit me so hard bc I detailed cars at a poorer part of town than l lived in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 13:54:44 2022 No.20186611 >>20186525 Mucho is a nickname though, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 14:30:26 2022 No.20186770 >>20186525 Not from CoTL, but no name in literature tops the beautiful simplicity of Ploy.

Anonymous Thu Apr 7 14:40:52 2022 No.20186832

>>20186605
That scene really hit me too. The way Pynchon writes that scene is beautiful. It's pretty much just a huge run on sentence but it was a perspective I was never aware about.
>"...a parade seven days a week, bringing the most godawful of trade-ins: motorized, metal extensions of themselves, of their families and what their whole lives must be like, out there so naked for anybody..."

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 14:45:12 2022 No.20186854 >>20186550 stopped reading after this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 14:45:23 2022 No.20186856 File: 117 KB, 750x1000, fposter,small,wall_texture,product,750x1000.u2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20186525 BUILD MASS WITH SASS! Real answer: stamp collector autism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 14:45:55 2022 No.20186861 >>20186854 I LITERALLY put the book down

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 15:21:06 2022 No.20187007 >>20186525 Part of the appeal is the silly names

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 15:26:33 2022 No.20187027 >>20186525 What is the appeal of you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 16:50:43 2022 No.20187432 >OP hasn't even gotten to the musical numbers yet lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 17:31:58 2022 No.20187620 >>20186525 The appeal is that it is both charming, clever and funny, and those three in unison are very, very rare.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 17:36:01 2022 No.20187636 how does a lot cry

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 17:37:01 2022 No.20187642 >>20187027 6'7". Inherited 1.2 million dollars. full head of hair.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 17:38:33 2022 No.20187653 >TOMMY PINECONE PLEBFILTERS YET ANOTHER ONE

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 17:54:59 2022 No.20187729 I thought the book was pretty good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:01:19 2022 No.20187750 the problem for me was that it was insufficiently silly. and the main thing is so hard to care about. if it was a prank by her ex husbandu, how and why did he expect her to care about all this? >>20186832 >we live in a 50/60s society

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:06:24 2022 No.20187775 File: 103 KB, 900x900, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20187636 It's like a metaphor

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:08:08 2022 No.20187782 >>20187750 Being a '60s spinster housewife sounds fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:13:47 2022 No.20187805 >>20187636 Read the bible

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:19:15 2022 No.20187835 File: 95 KB, 1090x1090, 1635626392232.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Mike Fallopian >Manny DiPresso >Genghis Cohen

Anonymous Thu Apr 7 18:32:35 2022 No.20187889

Lot 49 finds our boy Tommy making a big jump up in skill from V and really coming into his own style. But it's definitely thematically lighter than his work in GR and onward (duh, it's way shorter).

Bleeding Edge and Inherent Vice are fine, but obviously minor.

You guys know we likely don't have long before he croaks, right? Think he's got another book in him still?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 19:01:56 2022 No.20188018 File: 41 KB, 474x632, OIP (41).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Joaquin Stick

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 7 19:34:40 2022 No.20188144 >>20187889 V. is better than 49 though

Anonymous Thu Apr 7 21:08:06 2022 No.20188499

>>20188144
It has more going on but he's to me still in search of his voice and the signature elements of his style are either absent or still in raw stages.

A decent chunk of the Benny Profane material in V is either just boring or is reminiscent of Kerouac/Beat bullshit in an unflattering and off-putting way.

There's obviously good stuff in there too, like the Mondaugen's section and V crushed by the beam. But Tommy's power level is still low at this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:07:52 2022 No.20189385 >>20186525 >Mucho Maas Is it supossed to be translated as "Much more"? That's the joke?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:19:04 2022 No.20189411 >>20187889 >You guys know we likely don't have long before he croaks, right? Think he's got another book in him still? He has one big book he wrote in the 80s/90s that he instructed not to release until he dies and that will be the last book released.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:20:41 2022 No.20189414 >>20189411 I heard it will be called Gravity's Rainbow 2: Slothrop Moons

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:39:14 2022 No.20189459 >>20186525 Is it true he wanted to get out of a contract by writing 49, a book so horribly bad it would end his career in less than 300 pages?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:41:59 2022 No.20189467 >>20189459 >writes a masterpiece even when he's trying to be shit How do we compete with that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:44:33 2022 No.20189474 >>20186525 Still my favourite Pynchy

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 02:51:21 2022 No.20189493 >>20189414 Slothrop will be a minor character

Anonymous Fri Apr 8 05:22:30 2022 No.20189873

>>20189474
That's cause you're a pseud who lacks the willpower and aptitude to read long difficult books.

The one thing that 49 does best is build up nested layers of the larger Trystero conspiracy through various in-world mediums and texts (stamps, differing publications of The Courier's Tragedy, etc).

But thematically it's pretty shallow other than "hurr durr mid-60s paranoia"

Mason & Dixon is secretly his best book.

Anonymous Fri Apr 8 06:16:28 2022 No.20189978

>>20189873
>But thematically it's pretty shallow other than "hurr durr mid-60s paranoia"
>this nigga has no idea that the thematic of paranoia is intrinsically aligned to the thematic of teleology
>this nigga overlooked the thematic relation because of weed jokes
>this nigga thinks that the most masterful and funny literary investigation of one of the primary philosophical concepts of 2300 years of western civilization is shallow
If only you could see what I see.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 07:12:29 2022 No.20190136 >>20189978 Bruh I just re-read 49 a couple months ago and it's really good and fun to read but it's just not as deep as his Big Books. Have you even read all of them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 07:35:04 2022 No.20190212 >>20189411 That bad huh

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 08:38:11 2022 No.20190441 >>20190212 If that's when he wrote it it's probably way better than IH & BE

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 08:47:38 2022 No.20190474 >>20186542 Honestly, since first reading Pynchon like 20 years ago I'm very critical of boring names in literature. I can't read anything about Winston Smith or any other turd with a boring name without wondering why any writer would do that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 10:48:24 2022 No.20190922 >>20186525 Charles Dickens gave some of his characters ridiculous names. Your complaint is a mirror into the banality of your soul

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 10:49:26 2022 No.20190928 >>20190922 Pynchon's prose is very Dickensian in places as well. Definite influence there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 11:02:13 2022 No.20190963 >>20189385 yes, i find it charming

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 11:03:21 2022 No.20190969 Bumping the best pynch thread we’ve had in a bit. I’ve read all of his books except for ATD, BE and IV. Which should I read next?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 11:18:38 2022 No.20191034 >>20190969 Against the Day for sure. Inherent Vice is comparatively amateur.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 11:29:24 2022 No.20191085 >>20190969 >the best pynch thread we’ve had in a bit Holy shit, this is sad man

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 11:38:23 2022 No.20191138 tfw guy im in love with wants to get the stupid tattoo from the book

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 13:31:56 2022 No.20191655 >>20191138 ywnbaw

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 13:34:40 2022 No.20191678 >>20190969 >>20191034 Seconding AtD. BE and IV are among his worst, with BE being the very worst.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 13:35:24 2022 No.20191681 >>20187636 You're misreading the title, it means that Oedipa cries a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 13:41:17 2022 No.20191709 >>20187636 The title refers to a "lot" being auctioned off or "cried."

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 8 13:42:35 2022 No.20191719 File: 10 KB, 277x200, 1444591056898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20191709 >hasn't read the book oh no no no

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