Is this unironically right?

[Anonymous No.20164226]

>Those Russian authors are over-rated and boring. Pseudo intellectual people name drop them because they think it makes them look educated and cultured.

[Anonymous No.20164234]

>>20164226
bonger cope

[Anonymous No.20164243]

>>20164226
The question makes no sense. People wanted free, not to give power to “a mobbed up KGB”

[Anonymous No.20164257]

>>20164226
He's semi-right about the things that have nothing to do with the authors

[Anonymous No.20164261]

Dostoyevsky would have supported the military operation.

[Anonymous No.20164285]

>>20164226
Tolstoy and Dostoevsky were oddballs in their own times though and Bolshevism was predictable given the political climate. That said, neither are boring

[Anonymous No.20164517]

>>20164226
people who casually namedrop those Russian authors usually haven't read them and I find them annoying

t. haven't read neither Tolstoy nor Dostoevsky

[Anonymous No.20164525]

>>20164517
I'm convinced people namedrop Dosto just because his name has a lot of syllables.

[Anonymous No.20164559]

>>20164226
For people who use the term "pseudo-intellectual", the only people who they consider to be "real" intellectuals are STEM bugmen. So their opinions are redundant.

[Anonymous No.20164577]

>>20164226
Dostoyevsky:
>oh no, life as an atheist is le bad
>oh wow, now I've found le Jesus and a hooker with a heart of goal, that sure saved me!
Hack.

Tolstoy:
>oh no, bourgeois morality and le napoleon is le bad
>oh wow, now I've found le Jesus and napoleon is dead, that sure saved me!
>also all art is bad only morality fables for peasants are good
Hack.

[Anonymous No.20164648]

>>20164577
>napoleon is le bad
This is all you need to prove that Tolstoy was cringe

[Anonymous No.20164686]

>>20164577
>namefags


Lol, reading is for faggots.

[Anonymous No.20164687]

>>20164226
I’m not an edgelord and support Ukraine in the conflict, but what a ridiculous cope to pretend that Russian artistic traditions aren’t S tier.

[Anonymous No.20164723]

>>20164226
>Those ____ authors are over-rated and boring. Pseudo intellectual people name drop them because they think it makes them look educated and cultured.
Is this unironically true?

do you see how easy it is to make a general statement like this and apply it to like litterally anything without actually having to make any real argument?
Its not even that he is necissarily wrong, just that the format screams of feigned knowledge in the same way he is accusing other people of. And the fact that you found this in any way compelling. doesnt speak highly of you either.

[Anonymous No.20164818]

>>20164226
Why is western scum like this? Do they really believe in their own bullshit or do they think that their retarded behavior is justified by some imaginary "greater good" of their new world order?

[Anonymous No.20164830]

Their reputation precedes them. It's hard to read a 500 page book but it's easy to believe there's some deep and meaningful stuff in there, especially once you read the wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.20164847]

>>20164226
Yes.
Tolstoy and Dostoevsky were imitators of realist French and English writers like Flaubert and Dickens, both of whom were better. Dostoevsky has philosophical value, however.
Chekhov is by far the best Russian realist.

Anyway, the best Russian writers are the poets, such as Mandelstam and Mayakovsky, as well as the comic writers, like Gogol and Nabokov.

[Anonymous No.20164848]

>>20164830
>It's hard to read a 500 page book
It really isn't when it's something as well written as Tolstoy and Dostoyevskiy.

[Anonymous No.20164873]

>>20164226
Old Russian literature probably isn't really relevant to the average Russian today. And it's easy to manipulate a populace into supporting a war, in Russia or any country. All they had to do was tell them they were defending the Donbas Russians from western Russophobic Nazis.

[Anonymous No.20164897]

>>20164873
>Old Russian literature probably isn't really relevant to the average Russian today
Lol.
And all they had to tell you was that Ukrainian nazis don't count because they just don't, ok.

[Anonymous No.20164926]

>>20164723
This is an excellent point. People on /lit/ fall for this trick all the time.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.20164931]

>>20164226
>angloid flag
disregarded. every english author of note was either irish or black (shakespeare)

[Anonymous No.20164938]

>>20164847
>Chekhov is by far the best Russian realist.
Is this the value of Russian literature?
https://americanliterature.com/author/anton-chekhov/short-story/in-a-strange-land

[Anonymous No.20165269]

What duped America to go from Whitman and Twain to charge they phone?

[Anonymous No.20165278]

>>20164686
what?

[Anonymous No.20165289]

>>20165269
>charge they phone
consider the vernacular/ethnolect of that phrase and take a wild guess

[Anonymous No.20165314]

>>20164226
read plato's Crito.
humanity and society are not fucking natural and aligning yourself to order or some grand theory of greater good is illogical.
i did find tolstoy boring.

[Anonymous No.20165317]

>>20165289
you are an autistic redditor

[Anonymous No.20165324]

>>20164830
people say this andthen read all 7 harry potter books

[Anonymous No.20165327]

I really like War and Peace. I’ve never seen characters so relatable in their actions and behaviors. There’s so many good ones and they’re all tied up in a wonderfully thought out account of the war. It’s excellent.

[Anonymous No.20165342]

>>20164517
>haven't read neither
The negatives cancel out. So, you have read them. Good job.

[Anonymous No.20165355]

>>20164559
Cope. /sci/lit/fit/ is the ultimate transcended being.

[Anonymous No.20165561]

another worthless garbage thread

[Anonymous No.20166061]

>>20164226
Generally when people say this sort of thing, after having read the books for real, I find the problem is they didn't really understand what was going on because they don't understand the time period, customs and the like. A ton of nuance is completely lost on them so it's actually a totally correct opinion to have to found it boring. Of course it is! There's a ton of shit you're not picking up on because you don't know dick about being a Russian noble in 1810. If you don't know how dueling works and you read Eugene Onegin then the duel, the most dramatic thing that happens and the high water mark of the poem, will be completely lost on you

My advice is to read the classics with someone who is familiar with the context

[Anonymous No.20166131]

>>20164226
Anna Karenina fucking sucks. Didn’t read the rest.

[Anonymous No.20166228]

>>20164226
Nothing changed, if anything, things got better. Nearly every single 19th century Russian writer was either exiled at some point, or fought in a war for Imperial Russia— off the top of my head, consider Pushkin, Lermontov, Karamzin, and Dostoevsky. All had problems with the censor. What ignorant people don't realize is that the secret police were not created by the Bolsheviks, but the Tsars, who were in some ways just as if not more brutal than their successors.

[Anonymous No.20166279]

>>20165278
Christ. On 4chan, people who have a name in the "name" box at the top are called namefags. The mobocracy on the website will generally attack you en masse and disregard what you say if you have a name. They will presume you to be any collection of those slurs, despite trained propagandists knowing full well not to stand out or look different by using a name because this would distract from their "We're the organic democratic majority on this website, so you should agree with us, thus parrot our propaganda, and in exchange we will welcome you with the acceptance into a social environment you're so painfully desperate for."

The argument is 'anyone who has a name is inherently incorrect and inherently the antagonist of the people'. This logic can then easily be applied to all people, as all people have names, and in all irony, it is actually 100% valid due to the sheer levels of dysfunction in the human species, rendering them inherently incorrect due to a limited mental capacity, and this is coupled with their profound lack of foresight and cannibalistically narcissistic self-service, which ultimately renders each human the antagonist of his own species.

[Anonymous No.20166429]

>>20166279
No it's because namefags show flagrant contempt for the spirit of this (anime) website. You don't feel welcome, so go to another website

[Anonymous No.20166434]

>>20164226
It’s just an entry-level contrarian hot take. Sort of like hating on the Beatles in 10th grade.

[Anonymous No.20166442]

>>20164226
It’s just an entry-level contrarian hot take. Sort of like hating on the Beatles in 10th grade.

[Anonymous No.20166451]

>>20166279
Yeah but there weren't any namefags in this thread, there's one but he came after you posted that.

[Anonymous No.20166465]

>>20164577
>>also all art is bad only morality fables for peasants are good
true

[Anonymous No.20166474]

>>20166279
>meatbag
Found the trannyhumanist.

[Anonymous No.20166540]

>>20164577
>all art is bad only morality fables for peasants are good
Incredibly based

[Anonymous No.20166580]

>>20164818
Western scum is better than Eastern scum on all counts. Gyrate harder in your mental gymnasium, faggot.

[Anonymous No.20166594]

>>20164577
>now I've found le Jesus and a hooker with a heart of goal
Unironically kino desu

[Anonymous No.20166597]

>>20166279
Have sex

[Anonymous No.20167891]

>>20166580
If that's true then why do you keep getting wrecked trying to invade us, time after time, for over a millennia.

[Anonymous No.20168244]

>extremely poor bait
>Unironic responses
>No one has astutely pointed out the sheer retardation in OP pic and his "question"

Smartest board my ass.

[Anonymous No.20168250]

Stalin/lenin and the revolution literally killed/strangled the arts in russia, idk how people don't realize this...Artists were murdered, sent to concentration camps, had to run away to europe/america. Even today you can't be outspoken as a writer against the government. Tolstoy and doystoyevsky were a very small minority in russian society as well, 99% of them were poor stupid serfs.

[Anonymous No.20168255]

>>20164723
As I have pointed out in >>20168244, his board is getting more and more stupid over the years.

[Anonymous No.20168481]

>>20165355
Scifilitic lmao

[Anonymous No.20168486]

>>20164226
To the first post: jews
To the second post: wrong

[Anonymous No.20168500]

>>20164226
factual and a hard pill to swallow for pretentious lit-crit trannies on here

[Anonymous No.20169091]

I think their ideas and stories were pretty good, it's difficult to judge more when you read a translation.

[Anonymous No.20169112]

>>20168244
>>20168255
The responses were clearly ironic, your autistic brain just was incapable of recognizing it.

[Anonymous No.20170549]

>>20164226
I haven't read Tolstoy but Dostoevsky is very engaging. If you come here and don't identify with the main character of Crime and Punishment you aren't pissing in enough bottles

[Anonymous No.20170575]

>>20164226
I do not enjoy Russian literature.

[Anonymous No.20171303]

>>20168500
the lit-crit tranny vs. the rad-trad chad

[Anonymous No.20171830]

Daily reminder this is a pro-Russia pro-Putin board.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zk_VszbZa_s

[Anonymous No.20171832]

>>20164226
They're not bad.

[Anonymous No.20171856]

>>20164226
>Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky
>Fuck the West, God Bless Russia: the authors
These niggas would be 200% for Putin.