/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20161831]

>yeah fuck it, we'll just end it by killing all the characters with poison again. im fresh out of fucking ideas

[Anonymous No.20161834]

tantamount to criticizing a painter for using the same colour in multiple paintings

[Anonymous No.20161838]

>reading Shakespeare for the plot
Anon, I…

[Anonymous No.20161851]

>>20161834
That’s retarded. The literary equivalent of criticizing a painter for using the same color in multiple paintings would be to criticize a writer for using the same word in multiple books. Writers should not reuse the same plot over and over again.

[Anonymous No.20161856]

>>20161831
Can someone tell me what poison they used? I could use something that potent, they just drop dead instantly.

[Anonymous No.20161859]

>and then everyone died, the end
Is the ending to every single great piece of literature ever made.

[Anonymous No.20161860]

>>20161856
nightshade i would assume. the typical poison of the middle ages.

[Anonymous No.20161864]

>>20161838
>reading anything for the plot
any Shakespeare play aside from probably r&j would benefit from just not having a conclusive ending at all. imagine how much better, like, Hamlet would be if it was just left without

I get that its easy to act being poisoned on stage and all but

>>20161834
>there are as many colours as ending possibilities

[Anonymous No.20161874]

>>20161834
>>20161864
a better parallel would be a painter painting the same location or subject multiple times

[Anonymous No.20161895]

>>20161860
meh, can't find a recipe that works. why aren't there any poisons that actually work? what did that general use when he killed himself at his trial a few years ago?

[Anonymous No.20162044]

>>20161895
Cyanide

[Anonymous No.20162051]

>>20161838
>>reading Shakespeare for the plot
>Shakespeare Single-handedly invents the greatest love story of all time and a handful of the greatest tragedies ever written
::eyeroll::

[Anonymous No.20162071]

>mfw the best anglos have to offer is a sonnetist who maybe wrote a dozen plays

[Anonymous No.20162095]

>>20161831
I thought only pirates had earrings back then.

[Anonymous No.20162178]

>>20162051
yeah seriously is that anon a fucking retard or something, maybe its time to leave lit for ever.

[Anonymous No.20162314]

>>20162071
The term is "sonneteer."

[Anonymous No.20163740]

>>20161831
Shakespeare needed to be paid. This is an established fact. He was the 17th century equivalent of a pulp writer churning paperbacks out on amphetamine. Like a few others, his just turned out to be good.

>>20162314
>>20162071
"Sonnetsmith" is the correct usage

[Anonymous No.20163744]

>>20161831
This is blatant random bear erasure.

[Anonymous No.20163979]

>>20161864
>like, Hamlet would be if it was just left without
postmodern dipshit please fucking go for the love of god go get the fuck out you fucking loser
>imagine actually thinking [insert modern meme ending] into fucking Hamlet would "make it better"
kys. seriously.

[Anonymous No.20164120]

>>20162314
>sonneteerist

[Anonymous No.20164325]

I doubt majority of today's young people can still understand Shakespeare's language. I don't think they are able to comprehend his English. It's what George Orwell called the Oldspeak.

[Anonymous No.20164390]

>>20164325
This reads like the beginning of an amusing copypasta, does it go on?

[Anonymous No.20164418]

>>20161831
dramatists' chief objects are poetry, truth, morality, and character. the plots are just to draw in the audience (the groundlings of the 16th c)

[Anonymous No.20164523]

>>20162071
Read the Complete Works of Chaucer, Spenser, Shakespeare(read the HENRIAD), Dee, Nashe, Jonson, Sidney, Donne, Milton, Burton, Browne, Chapman, Swift, Sterne, Defoe, Pope, Richardson, Keats, Byron, Shelley, Wordsworth, Blake

[Anonymous No.20164642]

>>20161831
It's not the ending that matters, but the middle. If you look within a genre you will find that every single of them end in a similar way.

Tragedies end with a catharsis and purgation of pity and fear. We pity the characters, Romeo and Juliet at the end and it leaves us with fear on how situations like this are all so real and can occur.

Romances generally end with the characters getting together. If it doesnt end this way it isnt a romance, it's a drama with underlying romance.

Epics or Fantasies also generally have happy endings with the hero completing his journey and mission.


You cant just write an ending that you feel should happen unless you're an exceptional writer. You have to write according to your genre, Aristotle said this. And Shakespeare did just that.

[Anonymous No.20164677]

>>20161864
Come on now dont be a retard

[Anonymous No.20164679]

>>20162051
He did not invent most of his plots. He was usually adapting previously written stories. His language and characters are why he is considered great.

[Anonymous No.20164756]

>again
Wait, which ones end that way other than Hamlet? Only two people die of poison in Romeo and Juliet.

[Anonymous No.20164785]

>>20161831
How you kill characters doesn't matter.

Most of Wagner's characters die just via collapsing because their deaths are seen as necessary.

[Anonymous No.20164796]

>>20162051
> Single-handedly invents the greatest love story of all time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tragical_History_of_Romeus_and_Juliet

[Anonymous No.20164802]

Hamlet had to end in a gigantic catastrophe. If it didn't the play would feel limp-dicked since it's all about impending disaster and doom.

[Anonymous No.20165019]

Everybody dies, you know.

[Anonymous No.20165965]

>>20161831
Anons I have a question. Why was hamlet kissing yorick’s lips as a boy all the time?

[Anonymous No.20165997]

>>20165965
It was a jest!

[Anonymous No.20166046]

>>20165997
I am not sure. Here is the exact quotation.

>Here hung those lips that I have kiss'd I know not how oft.

And it seems most people glossed over it like it doesn’t signify anything. I can’t make understand.

[Anonymous No.20166069]

>no, you just don't understand... the poison is... it's GNOSTICISM, a-and Shakespeare is the... well, uh... he's the DEMIURGE!