I'll just leave this here

[Anonymous No.20156763]

[Anonymous No.20156851]

The only place this is true ("they shall be put to death") is in Muslim countries. Every country dominated by the followers of this holy book loves queers or at least tolerates them.

[Anonymous No.20156998]

>>20156851
really makes ya thunk <span class="xae" data-xae="think">🤔[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.20157715]

>>20156851
>Every country dominated by the followers of this holy book loves queers or at least tolerates them.

Christianity lost its political relevance around the same time the monarchies did. The US only worships money and Europe only worships immigrants.

[Anonymous No.20157723]

>>20156763
Faggots burn in hell, what’s your point?

[Anonymous No.20157768]

damn, it's almost like christians consider levitical law to be abrogated by christ's sacrifice

[Anonymous No.20157806]

>>20157768
Found the sodomite

[Anonymous No.20158412]

That would end up killing a good portion of the tradlarpers on here

[Anonymous No.20158423]

>>20157723
If our cocks slapped and played together you'd cum harder than you ever have or will in your life

[Anonymous No.20158429]

>>20156763
Who'd have guessed that a book dedicated to the moral justification of war would deem people immoral for not breeding more army men

[Anonymous No.20158440]

>>20156763
>GAY BAD BECAUSE… IT JUST IS OKAY??

[Anonymous No.20158453]

Cool. And Leviticus 19:19 says not to wear clothing woven of two materials or sow a field with two different types of seeds, but a cotton/elastine blend for underpants is pretty comfortable, and companion planting can be incredibly beneficial.

[Anonymous No.20158596]

>>20158440
Gay bad because...
>2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. It psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity (Cf. Genesis 19:1-29; Romans 1:24-27; 1 Corinthians 6:10; 1 Timothy 1:10), tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Persona humana, 8). They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

>2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

>2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them their inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. -- Catechism of the Catholic Church

[Anonymous No.20158607]

>>20156851
I don't much care for them but I'm just one man

[Anonymous No.20158613]

>>20158453
I dunno, have we tried it?

[Anonymous No.20158642]

>>20158453
I hate this shallow objection. If you understand basic theology you know that the ceremonial Levitical law has been fulfilled in Christ, although we still base a lot of our liturgical traditions on it. But the moral law of the Old Testament, the ten commandments, etc., are absolutely not abrogated. The only thing Christ abrogated was the permission for divorce. He said Moses permitted divorce because the people were heard-hearted and not prepared for the full morality.

[Anonymous No.20158673]

>>20158613
What? Monoculture? Monoculture speaks for itself. Wool-only underpants? Cotton-only underpants? Yeah. They're both terrible. Well, merino or nylon underpants have their high points, provided you aren't allergic to merino. If you are allergic to merino or nylon that's a gnarly place to get hives. Cotton has very little natural stretch. That's why you have weird shit like pantalettes cropping up in history.

Homosexuality? That's been practiced everywhere from Ancient Greece to Feudal Japan to many places today. It isn't very exciting, I don't know why so many people lose their hair over it because some old book says they should.

[Anonymous No.20158747]

>>20156763
but men are hot

[Anonymous No.20158757]

>>20156763
I can honestly say I've never fucked a man's vagina so it's cool.

[Anonymous No.20158758]

Sorry, all the based Jew stuff is nullified by Jesus. If you hate gays you go to hell. Love 'em = Heaven. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.20158759]

>>20158596
This is precisely the defeatist attitude that has lead such a great number of catholic priest in the US, at least, to be homosexuals. The cultural phenomenon of sodomy has been present in many societies thoughout history, but when it occured in traditional societies it always took a very different form from what we have today. The traditional form of sodomy was first of all usually pederastic, or was at least very concerned with delineating hierarchical sexual roles of actor and subject based on age. Individuals breaking these sexual roles was rare and when it happened they were despised. More importantly was that it never implied the exclusive attraction to, or participation in sexual acts with, the same sex. It was an addition to reproductive intercourse with women. The phenomenon we see in the modern world of 'homosexuality', of this sub-group of men who spurn women entierly, is virtually completely absent from pre-modern history, as is, of course, the very concept of sexual orientation. I am reminded of the text where researchers tried to explain to some indigenous tribe the notion of a man who lies with men to the exclusion of women. The concept didn't exist in their culture. Once the researches had gone through with them, they either believed it was impossible for such a man to exist, or, if he did exist, that he should be killed imediately.
TL;DR Being gay is choice and fags absolutely don't need to resign themselves to a life of celibacy. They should get married and probably not enter the clergy.

[Anonymous No.20158800]

>>20156763
In a way, I think that most of what Nietzsche said about the profound ressentiment in the very essence of christianity is vindicated by the fact that traditional catholicism has found a renaissance of LARPers amongst - of all people - outcasts, incels and schizoidia-sufferers here on 4chan.
The move from "NOOO STOP HAVING SEX IF I CANNOT HAVE IT" cope to "NOOO STOP HAVING SEX IT IS NOT VIRTUOUS" cope has been as transparent as it has been hilarious.

[Anonymous No.20158805]

>>20158759
But what are you supposed to do about the large number of homosexuals who claim that they cannot feel an attraction to women? Personally it's hard for me, as a man, to believe that another man is not attracted to women, but suppose they have some sort of mental disorder or brain abnormality that prevents them from finding women attractive. What is the Church supposed to do about such people? Obviously it is her duty to call them away from their disordered desires and advocate a life of celibacy. Therapy is probably another option, but the stigma against conversion therapy is so strong in our culture that it's hard to do any proper research on it.
As for the homosexual clergy, you're completely right. Pope Francis has also commented on this being an issue. It leads to child abuse and all sorts of horrific degenerate actions, like the recent "Grinder" scandal in the Vatican, where mobile phone data showed that at least 30 phones from Vatican City were using the gay hookup app Grinder to meet other fags. It's honestly horrific.

[Anonymous No.20158818]

>>20158800
Rejection of extra-marital sex is an ancient Christian tradition. It also exists in Islamic culture and Jewish culture, and probably many others. Plus many philosophers spoke against hedonism, and the institution of Christian marriage and family values is a perfect synthesis of human sexuality and anti-hedonistic principles. This has nothing to do with internet fads like inceldom.
> outcasts, incels and schizoidia-sufferers here on 4chan.
Yep, Christ's healing power and love is more evident to those who are broken and unloved.

[Anonymous No.20158833]

>>20158818
>Yep, Christ's healing power and love is more evident to those who are broken and unloved.
Christians are generally normalfags par excellence.

[Anonymous No.20158841]

>>20158805
>But what are you supposed to do about the large number of homosexuals who claim that they cannot feel an attraction to women?
Do they want to feel different? If they don't, then you can do absolutely nothing. Not your business, you can butt out and mind your own.

[Anonymous No.20158855]

>>20158833
Yeah that's why I said Christ's healing power. People start off broken and reform their lives when they become Christian. Look up various Saints for examples, the funniest one being St. Moses the Black. St. Augustine also had a similar story.

[Anonymous No.20158856]

>>20158759
could you give me a link to the research you read?
(don't take this as me yelling at you to post source, the thing sounds interesting)

[Anonymous No.20158863]

>>20158841
Are you lost or something? This isn't plebbit. Of course they want to do away with their disordered desires, especially if they're Christians. And those who don't want to should want to.

[Anonymous No.20158873]

>>20158863
Nah, I'm a nightposting animist. I like to take the piss out of Christians. They're low-hanging fruit, but sometimes you take what you can get.

[Anonymous No.20158950]

>>20158805
>But what are you supposed to do about the large number of homosexuals who claim that they cannot feel an attraction to women? Personally it's hard for me, as a man, to believe that another man is not attracted to women, but suppose they have some sort of mental disorder or brain abnormality that prevents them from finding women attractive.
Well that's the interesting thing. These people do seem to genuinly think that there is no hope for any sort of relationship for them. They can try to marry but the marriage will inevitably fall down at some point. I just cannot bring myself to take them at their words here. Human sexuality is too fluid and plastic (an argument which is often used in the sexual deviance but which really brings a wonderful potential for sexual regulation) and absence of homosexuality (in the modern sense) in the past makes it all very incredulous for me. There has never been any 'gay genes' found. On the subject of marriage, in the past it was very common, apparently, for gays to stay in the closet, get married to a lady and have kids. Which is a real brain scratcher since they do not have any attraction to women but are still able to become aroused and achieve climax with their wife such that they inseminate her. From the point of view of natural law, they are completely male. They are able to perform the essential male act. Honestly, even if you were a pure homosexual, you should still be able to get married to a woman and be perfectly content. The only thing sodomy can offer you is some temporary pleasure. Trying to imagine myself in that scenario I really don't see the problem, but for people suffering from Same Sex Attraction, as they say, it just doesn't work.
>Therapy is probably another option, but the stigma against conversion therapy is so strong in our culture that it's hard to do any proper research on it.
Certainly. I feel like serious research into the matter could be very promising. I could format this better but who care: Sometimes it seems like the problem isn't so much that the homosexual is completely turned off women--as I mentioned with plastic sexuality, it's hard to understand how this would even be possible. They should, at least, be able to somewhat aroused by the the fact that they are engaging in sex in general, whether with man or woman. But as I was saying, the gay man isn't necessarily totally unresponsive to women, he rather has some neurosis where he perceives the vagina as repulsive.
>As for the homosexual clergy, you're completely right.
I was hyperbolic before, I think there's another factor too. In the West there is a huge shortage of priests. Maybe it's the required celibacy that's too much for moderns. Since no one wants to become priests in the West, the gay catholics, already needing to be celibate and for whom family was always out of the picture, might go "eh, why not?" It's a much less of a commitment for them.

[Anonymous No.20158959]

>>20158863

[Anonymous No.20159130]

[Anonymous No.20159362]

>>20156763
Bible isn't literature

[Anonymous No.20159367]

>>20158642
Nope, OT is rendered irrelevant with the coming of christ

[Anonymous No.20159375]

>>20158950
lol why are they like this?

[Anonymous No.20159407]

>>20159375
That's fucking hilarious, but do left wingers really talk less about transgender people than centrists?

[Anonymous No.20159420]

>>20159407
That's what the infographic says

[Anonymous No.20159430]

>>20159375
Just like how atheists read the Bible more than christers.

[Anonymous No.20159462]

>>20156763
what about man and little boykind?
>>20159130
based

[Anonymous No.20159471]

>>20158950
Yeah I don’t see the problem with rescinding the celibacy requirement. Maybe the unrestricted access to pornography and modern culture’s hypersexualised nature make it harder for priests to remain celibate. Catholics in the Eastern Rite have married priests and they seem to be doing alright. I understand this would upset a lot of traditionalists though.

[Anonymous No.20159475]

>>20156763
>as he lieth with a woman
Wouldn't that mean it's still ok to suck your bf's dick? After all, cant' do that with a woman. <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/9ecd704b_PepoThink.png">

[Anonymous No.20159483]

>>20158412
Good

[Anonymous No.20159501]

>>20158429
>>Who'd have guessed that a book dedicated to the moral justification of war would deem people immoral for not breeding more army men
t. never read the Bible, or anything else likely
most of the fags itt are talking out of their ass
>And if there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their beloved, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?

[Anonymous No.20159508]

>>20156851
>The only place this is true ("they shall be put to death") is in Muslim countries. Every country dominated by the followers of this holy book loves queers or at least tolerates them.
Pedophiles are extremely persecuted in the west. Not all pedophiles are gay, but almost all gays are pedophiles. Per capita homosexuals rape more children than Jews amass wealth, compared to the normal population.

[Anonymous No.20159512]

>>20159475
So long as you don't do anal with women there's zero crossover.

[Anonymous No.20159520]

>>20159407
>believes debunked chart <img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="28" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/af528e56_Hahaa.png">

[Anonymous No.20159566]

>>20159130
Based I need a Chad daddy bf to fuck my thighs

[Anonymous No.20159573]

>>20159566
post thighs

[Anonymous No.20159584]

>>20159508
>Not all pedophiles are gay, but almost all gays are pedophiles.
statistically it's the exact opposite. paedophiles are more likely to be homosexual, but most homosexuals are not paedophiles. there's not a lot of overlap between the gay club population and the pedo one. a lot of male child molestors are married men.

[Anonymous No.20159586]

>>20159584
married to a woman?

[Anonymous No.20159595]

>>20159586
yeah. that makes me wonder now if there have been any situations where a partner in a gay couple has abused a girl <span class="xae" data-xae="think">🤔[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.20159598]

>>20159584
Homosexuals account for 1/3rd of all child molestation charges in the US, they are 2.5% of the population.

[Anonymous No.20159603]

>>20159598
Source?

>In the remaining 269 cases, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child. Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/

[Anonymous No.20159618]

>>20158596
That's not saying its bad. This is pretty weak and its wrong and shows why religion doesn't work. If it's a choice, they made the wrong one. If it isn't, they're defective. Simple equation. They should be castrated or eliminated. Only religiousbrained retards come up with all this muh person, muh soul, muh rights, muh spooks nonsense. Also secular humanism is Christianity 2.0

[Anonymous No.20159623]

>>20159603
It was a study in the 90s, gl finding it now as every search engine has been whitewashed and cleaned of anything remotely questionable and instead promote cherrypicked statistical manipulation to politically rehabilitate gays in society. I don't care to look for it because anyone can produce a study that "evidences" anything they want nowadays.
But there's still lots of studies that indirectly suggest this association. A quick Google.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
>In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.

There's no way to reconcile this disparity except acknowledgement homosexuals are disproportionately child rapists.

[Anonymous No.20159627]

>>20159475
>>20159512
>>20156763
it appears to outlaw bisexuality, but if you choose one or the other then anything goes.

[Anonymous No.20159630]

>>20159603
Your own thing:
>Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1
So 1/3 of sex offence cases are against boys...
That means at least 1/3 of pedophiles are faggots, but probably more because there's a crossover between those who abuse little girls and little boys.
>but what about women abusers!
get real, those numbers are negligible.

[Anonymous No.20159631]

>>20158642
Why do you think this verse cannot be tied into 'ceremonial Levitical law' and thus be obsolete and fulfilled with Christ? Seems like an arbitrary distinction.