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What are your thoughts on this poem, /lit/?

Daisy Time by Marjorie Pickthall

Yesterday's poem >>20146960

>> No.20152792
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>Probably no other Canadian writer has suffered such a plunge in reputation as Marjorie Pickthall (1883 – 1922). Once she was thought to be the best Canadian poet of her generation. Now her work, except for two or three anthologized pieces, goes unread. The fact is that her initial popularity was based upon extraliterary criteria. Her rejection of modernism in style and attitude made her the darling of conservative Canadian critics. She was also viewed as a genteel alternative to Robert Service and Tom MacInnes, who were widely read by the general public but abhorred by many of the literati of the day. But she has fallen victim to time. Service has retained a body of devoted readers, which Pickthall has not, and modernism has replaced nineteenth-century romantic verse.

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Jolly good. It's as light, simple and as cheerfully frivolous as the daisy itself.
as Burns says,
>The Daisy amus'd my fond fancy,
>So artless, so simple, so wild

>> No.20153223

>>20152791
Too sing-song. Don't like ballad meter, simple as.

>> No.20154011

>>20152791
It's nice and heartwarming, but I don't understand the point of descriptory poetry. It is always inevitably "domestic" so to say, and therefore fails to produce memorable passages.

>> No.20154761

>>20154011
What? Descriptory as opposed to reflective? Domestic? Descriptions can't be memorable? What about Pound?

>> No.20154822

>>20154011
>Small-minded critics point out that such-and-such poem, with its protracted cadences, in the end says merely that it’s a nice day. But to say it’s a nice day is difficult, and the nice day itself passes on. It’s up to us to conserve the nice day in a wordy, florid memory, sprinkling new flowers and new stars over the fields and skies of the empty, fleeting outer world.

- Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet

>> No.20154894

>>20154822
Pessoa was a brainlet so no one cares <span class="xae" data-xae="grin">&#x1F604;[/spoiler]

>> No.20154899

>>20154761
>Descriptory as opposed to reflective?
Yeah, pretty much. It's good for children's writers, but I just fail to relate to something like this on a deeper level.
>>20154822
>Small-minded critics
I'm not saying that it's shit, dumbass, I'm saying that I fail to see much value in "saying it’s a nice day" for myself. See, there can be just saying that it's a nice day, and that's ok, but then there can be the end of Anna Karenina type of nice day that makes you appreciate the niceness of a day on a much deeper level than a simple image of a country morning.

>> No.20154915

>>20154899
>Yeah, pretty much. It's good for children's writers, but I just fail to relate to something like this on a deeper level.
Your arrogance is ridiculous.

>> No.20154932

>>20154915
>I fail to relate
>arrogance
What?

>> No.20154933

It's cute watching daisies dance in the breeze is all.

>> No.20154950

>>20154932
Arrogant and dishonest too. Maybe that's why you don't understand poetry.

>> No.20154976

>>20154950
Here's a you, buddy.

>> No.20155001

Like most poems it gives me a pretty picture in my head but means nothing to me.

>> No.20155018

>>20154899
I didn't mean to insult
The full quote says a bit more on the subject

>> No.20155030

its fine

>> No.20155043

>>20154899
you only like things if it has some epic message of depression like Tolstoy. Have you ever heard of paintings? that are meaningful just in what they capture, without some epic message.

This poem is not anything super special though, but descriptive poetry is as high art as a neurotic novel is.

>> No.20155098

>>20155043
>you only like things if it has some epic message
No, on the contrary, I very much appreciate simpler stuff, it's just that I'm not going to reread Little Fly So Sprightly or Cock-the-Roach as an adult, bar for a nostalgia spike.
>of depression like Tolstoy
Have you read Anna Karenina? Do you know what I'm talking about when I say "nice day at the end of it"? It's the nicest day I've ever seen described in literature. What depression are you talking about?
>meaningful just in what they capture, without some epic message
I literally said that it's "nice and heartwarming". Quit fighting a strawman.

>> No.20155101

appreciate not doing an april fools joke op. i would not be able to resist posting vogon poetry or Marzio's A Tragedy or something.

Sent from my samsung - SM-S908U

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>>20152791
that's cute

>> No.20155248

>>20152791
Technically fine but twee as fuck

Sent from my asshole

>> No.20156032

>>20152792
Canada has literature? <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/9ecd704b_PepoThink.png">