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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:13:52 2022 No.20127292 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:18:41 2022 No.20127307 File: 336 KB, 900x753, Tyrion on a desk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are you guys currently or planning on reading? I’ve just bought the game of thrones books so that’s what I’ll be that reading soon. How about you?

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sun Mar 27 04:19:20 2022 No.20127309
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Book of Etta, Road to Nowhere #2 - Meg Elison (2017)

The frame story no longer applies as this takes place in their present day. I enjoyed this one far less because of the protagonist. Most of that is because they're a confused, angsty, traumatized, and misunderstood teenager ineffectually raging against the confines of their society. Maybe I should be more understanding and empathetic about their struggles, but more often than not it was painful to read.

A lot of what I liked in the first book was absent here. The protagonist is still wandering around, but it felt much less organic, as each new community is blatantly for almost the singular purpose of presenting a different sexual arrangement of society. Sexuality is definitely the the overriding concern overall. That wouldn't be a problem for me except that it seemed to be the detriment of everything else, as happens at times with hard SF. The story did pose some interesting questions and relationships that I haven't often read. Contemporary sexualities don't map as neatly because of cultural distortions caused by the absence of women. Basically all of LGBTIAQ+ is represented in some way, though they are decidedly not in harmony with each other.

This one is arguably considerably darker than the first book, if only because in that book protagonist was careful and came out relatively unscathed. The protagonist of this book hero worships how they saw her actions, but doesn't do so well in following her teaching. Also unlike the first book, this one has a definite antagonist and hews closer to the typical dystopia story. I think it suffers for that and I can only speculate as to why it was done.

As always when I like a following book less it makes me question the first book, but I don't feel any need to change anything other than what I've already done. It seems like this is going to be a standalone+duology rather than a trilogy and for me it may have been better for it to have remained standalone. Part of the problem is comparing it to the first, which is somewhat unfair because they're rather different from each other.

Rating: 3/5

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:20:21 2022 No.20127312

Respond to this post with your favorite lesser read sff novel and one of them will be selected as an April book for the Goodreads group.
Two have currently been accepted to be one or more books for the month:
The Worm Ouroboros by E. R. Eddison
The Last Policeman by Ben H. Winters

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 04:53:37 2022 No.20127363 File: 564 KB, 968x1600, Resident Evil Novel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20127307 >planning on reading? The Resident Evil novels. I've been interested in Resident Evil since I was a child and so I might as well give the novels a read.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 07:49:01 2022 No.20127871 >>20127307 I hope you are aware that the novels will remain forever unfinished.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 08:11:04 2022 No.20127936 File: 707 KB, 2560x1089, recluce.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20127307 The one series to rule them all

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 12:59:24 2022 No.20128918 >>20127307 Memory, Sorrow and Thorn

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 13:11:03 2022 No.20128972 File: 1.00 MB, 797x1250, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this? This is the only guy writing classic epic fantasy in the current decade.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 15:16:41 2022 No.20129638 >>20128972 I don't like werehumans. I didn't like the dragon. The cover is misleading. It's not epic fantasy.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:33:30 2022 No.20130306

>>20127363
My cousin had the first novel when I was a child, I couldn’t finish it, due to my disinterest in the series. Wonder if they’re any good.

>>20127871
I really don’t care. It’s a good read and that’s all I care about.

>>20128918
Never heard of it, is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:38:21 2022 No.20130334 File: 296 KB, 962x1024, Conan-Slomatics-Sentinel-flat_-962x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he doesn't read Fantasy that has giant snail-mounts

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:39:22 2022 No.20130336 >>20130306 >Never heard of it, is it any good? It's the series GERM ripped off; so it's like GoT except good and actually has an ending.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:45:29 2022 No.20130373
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>>20130306
>Wonder if they’re any good.
They're good for what they are, which is a book adaptation of the games, it expands on a few things that make it interesting. That's my view of it anyways. Overall, S.D. Perry is a good writer and I wish she had continued writing for the series. I wish Capcom would still release novels about them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:47:01 2022 No.20130382 Just use this thread instead >>20130314 (You) (Cross-thread)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:48:02 2022 No.20130390 Just use this thread instead >>20130314

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:52:30 2022 No.20130410 >>20127307 Just today I finished Burning Chrome by William Gibson, and Tarnsman of Gor. Now I'm going to start Sword of the Lictor and finish BotNS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:53:44 2022 No.20130417 File: 242 KB, 607x760, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rank them. Remember, you're ranking the future of fantasy literature here, so be very careful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:54:23 2022 No.20130421 >>20130417 I have read none of these. Are any of them even decent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:54:44 2022 No.20130423 Just use this thread instead >>20130302 For bakkerposting use >>20127292

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:55:45 2022 No.20130430 God why is this such a cesspool today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:56:31 2022 No.20130434 >>20130430 >today

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:56:47 2022 No.20130435 >>20130421 >3k pages >1.6k pages >1.6k pages The only one that's less than the length of a phonebook (and therefore likeliest to contain some merit) is only that short because it only just started.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:56:50 2022 No.20130436 >>20130434 It's worse than usual.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:57:38 2022 No.20130441 >>20130421 They're basicallly teen lit/LNs. You won't find stirring prose, but you will find clear plots and clear progress instead of murky complexity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 17:58:05 2022 No.20130443 >>20130435 I'm sure some of these have clear moments that would be "end of book 1/2/3/4, etc", so it's more several books in one, but still.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:00:56 2022 No.20130459 File: 90 KB, 900x706, 1614112646820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20130443 No excuses. The only books of worth are on paper, and even then you're lucky to find something decent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:01:11 2022 No.20130461 File: 524 KB, 1079x713, 1648308036427.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fantasy books with deep economy and finance?

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:04:03 2022 No.20130471

Anyone read anything good this year? Putting some stuff on my ereader tonight so I might as well see if I've missed anything in these threads
>>20127307
Vorkosigan Saga. I'm on Cetaganda which is where I stopped last time I was reading them.
>>20127936
I like Modesitt in general and I enjoyed Magi'i of Cyador but when I tried to read Magic of Recluce I did not get on with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:05:30 2022 No.20130475 >>20130417 >Grammar - 5/5. Perfect from what I saw. The author uses an editor, and it shows! Haha...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:08:51 2022 No.20130485 File: 20 KB, 500x504, 1629588951863.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20128972 This dragon looks fucking we todd did.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:10:43 2022 No.20130501

>>20130421
>>20130417
Beware of Chicken is fun, it's nothing groundbreaking but it's an attempt to write a sort of slice of life story within a seemingly normal wuxia world.
It felt like it was running out of steam a bit as I caught up to current pace but it's a character driven story and it gives you plenty of them who are written well enough to care about.
Also it's divided into volumes so it's really no different to reading a series of books.

Mother of Learning is also fun but that definitely began to drag by the time I stopped reading it. I think that one's a case where the concept would have been better suited to a novel than the longer webnovel format.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:14:10 2022 No.20130516
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I have finished reading The Second Sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon, first book is The Lion of Senet.

Its interesting in that it is non-magical, and not really about battles. Its largely intrigue, plotting, and mystery. The setting is on a Twin-Sunned planet where there is no night, and primarily follows are young man who is a math prodigy that is able to calculate some astronomical phenomenon the knowledge of which threatens to undermine the state-religious power of some matriarchal cult.

I don't consider it one of the greats, but it is decent. What I do think it has going for it, that no one else I am aware of has seemed to manage, is making a fantasy series that is largely unconcerned with with legendary battles, dark lords, and apocalypses but still feels grand and sweeping in its stakes and consequences.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:18:07 2022 No.20130527 File: 71 KB, 554x400, 1634497470200.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >more than 4 books in the series aaaaand into the trash it goes

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:18:07 2022 No.20130528

>>20130516
I adored the first book when I read it but didn't follow through with finishing the series. (Maybe perspective changed in book 2 can't really remember)
IIRC I read it when I was looking for "count of monte cristo but fantasy" books and it was the best of them

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:20:24 2022 No.20130542 >>20130516 Aw, man, you've posted this already in the old thread and now I'm even more intrigued. I wanted to read Das Boot next, tell me one reason why I should rather read The Lion of Senet instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:20:43 2022 No.20130543 >>20130417 >A Genome. Considering his physical mutation, maybe even a Psycho.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:22:24 2022 No.20130555 >>20130516 >I have finished reading The Second Sons trilogy by Jennifer Stop reading there. Let's keep shitposting to minimum in this thread, please

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:22:43 2022 No.20130556

>>20127307
You're in for a real treat.
Right now I'm reading book 2 of Wheel of Time. So far it's marginally better than the first which I found an absolute slog. I hear it gets good around book 4..
I'm on book 6 of Elderlings, the final book in the Liveship Traders series. Great series so far, tho I am finding the Traders to drag a bit which is a desperture from Assassin's which raced by for me.
Halfway through Name of the Wind. It's okay.

After all that I'll probably pick up the ninth Drizzt book, promised to be the real drow assault upon mithral hall so that's exciting.
Also need to pick up book two of the del ray Conan collection. And one of these days I wanna get back to Fafhrd and Grey Mouser.

Lot to look forward to.

Oh and I've just started Darkness That Comes Before. Top tier stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:24:38 2022 No.20130569 >>20130556 >Oh and I've just started Darkness That Comes Before. Top tier stuff. Go on...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:27:28 2022 No.20130587 >>20130435 how many words though? pages are irrelevant

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:28:39 2022 No.20130593

>>20130569
So far it's still jumping characters every chapter slowly introducing this world. Undercover wizard guy just got assigned to go recruit his old buddy.
Really digging it. He clearly gives no shits about accessibility just shoving the reader into this world, but the perspective jumping still gives you a lot of pieces to start putting together.
The fragmented lore from diff perspectives and the overall darkness of the setting gives me a vibe I really havent gotten anywhere except Dark Souls and I am super into it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:32:59 2022 No.20130613 >>20130587 I'm actually not sure, how does RR even qualify pages? It just shows a chapter at a time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:33:55 2022 No.20130619 >>20128972 Characters (3 povs) were basically identical. Could not relate with any of them. Cool world i guess but really didn't like the book. It gets rave reviews but I think they're paid for desu

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:55:00 2022 No.20130724
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>>20130417
The Wandering Inn isn't among them because the author removed it from RR, but it declasses all of them. No fantasy story comes even close to TWI in size and quality (which is not to say it's a masterpiece, just that it's like a very good normal book, but has 40k pages).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:55:28 2022 No.20130726 File: 1.15 MB, 1463x2407, A1ryaMDbIiL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20127307 currently preparing to read this series for the first time, i think its a bit embarrassing for me to be a huge fan of fantasy and have never done so

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:55:53 2022 No.20130729 >>20130724 There should be a term for faggots like you obsessed with word count

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:56:33 2022 No.20130731 File: 55 KB, 318x424, 25635541._SX318_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When will this fagget put out an audiobook?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:56:34 2022 No.20130732 >>20130587 275 words make a single page.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 18:57:01 2022 No.20130734 >>20130593 Let us know what you think when you get to the curved phalluses and fetishized rape

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:04:27 2022 No.20130762

>>20127363
they suck dick, the most interesting thing the first book does is have wesker die in an alternative way to the way he does in the game.
SD Perry is an absolute meme writer, weskers lines in the code veronica adaption where he talks about wanting to bang claire are a trip.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:07:15 2022 No.20130783 >>20130734 Fuck off already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:08:28 2022 No.20130790 >>20130783 and the cuckolding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:08:36 2022 No.20130791 >>20127307 Just finished the 3 Body Problem. Normally this type of scifi isn't my favorite, but this was pretty good, 7.5-8/10, will solidify my opinion when I read the sequel

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:08:50 2022 No.20130793 >>20127307 the book of the new sun series since i keep hearing about how its "da best fantasy series evar" the shadow of the torturer is on its way in the post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:24:02 2022 No.20130857 >>20130555 based

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:25:19 2022 No.20130866 Should I read Three Hearts and Three Lions?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:44:03 2022 No.20130939 File: 103 KB, 600x435, the-licanius-trilogy-by-james-islington-FEATURE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are thoughts on licanius trilogy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 19:46:12 2022 No.20130956 >>20130939 Is it just me that finds titles like these just weird? These oddly descriptive nothing titles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:06:36 2022 No.20131045 >>20130956 Yea you’re right. They’re titles you could put on almost any fantasy book

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:11:32 2022 No.20131067

>>20131045
It's better than some of the generic "The X of Y" titles, but it feels shockingly forgettable. Especially because the first two are just kinda phrases that while they do nicely mirror each other, don't have HUGE implications. And the third one is just kinda nothing.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:14:42 2022 No.20131075

>>20130956
>>20131045
I find them amusing. I'll make a few that may already exist because I won't be checking
A Future Yet To Come
The Danger Not Yet Known
The Fire In The Dark
A Rain That Does Not End
The Darkness Covering All
A Regret Thought Upon
An Event Most Important

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:19:36 2022 No.20131094 >>20131075 >An Event Most Important This one's a pratchett joke chapter title

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:20:36 2022 No.20131099 >>20130593 Soon you will read about a nigga called Cnaiur, this nigga will be your favourite character

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:21:18 2022 No.20131105 >>20131094 Didn't Pratchett not title his chapters (when he even had them) outside of the Moist books which were overly descriptive "In which our hero" titles?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:25:40 2022 No.20131119 >>20131075 They feel like AI-generated titles. I get titles can be tricky, but they should at least be kind of something uniquely linked to your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:26:08 2022 No.20131124 >>20131105 Tiffany Aching has chapter titles

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:27:10 2022 No.20131127 >>20131124 Huh, I thought they were just numbered chapters. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:32:32 2022 No.20131149 A magical journey to another planet is more credible to imagine than a woman being a good fighter or a competent leader.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:35:57 2022 No.20131158 I've just started a book and the dedication alone was enough to make me think I'll hate it. "To those who work to change the world from within the system" Think I'm gonna have to read it now to see if my strong adverse reaction was appropriate

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:46:35 2022 No.20131196 >>20131119 Depends on what kind of AI it is. I'm not going to try actual generators bit it could be from like A Sword Were The Regional Refrigerator, The Claws Curving Inward, or The Mage's Puppet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:48:20 2022 No.20131200 >>20131149 Based. Women should be exluded from literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:50:34 2022 No.20131208 >>20131200 And existence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:51:07 2022 No.20131210 >>20131208 >anti natalist cringe

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:52:02 2022 No.20131212 >>20131149 >>20131200 Fags should be excluded from literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:55:15 2022 No.20131223 >>20131210 >jew Double cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 20:56:50 2022 No.20131228 >>20131223 Jews are anti natalist you kike.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:07:13 2022 No.20131253 >>20130939 >The X of Y

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:09:14 2022 No.20131259 >>20131253 The f(x) of Why

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:22:47 2022 No.20131312
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Bro why do these authors let the mc's love interest get raped?
As soon as a girl becomes used goods she just becomes a nuisance in the story.
Must be some sort of unironic cuck fetish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:39:53 2022 No.20131392 >>20131212 Coomers should be exluded from literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:42:18 2022 No.20131400 https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/sm2a9k/looking_for_a_dark_fantasy_series_with_intense/ they got it

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:42:47 2022 No.20131404
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Should I watch the LotR movies before reading the books? Will it help?
I've read the Hobbit and it was good, now I'm 1/3 into the first LotR book but it feels SO damn slow, and so much description is unnecessary.
Am I getting filtered? Will watching the movies make me more interested?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:43:26 2022 No.20131407 >>20131404 No. Just continue with the books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:44:14 2022 No.20131412 >>20131392 coomers>>>>>>>>faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:44:53 2022 No.20131417 >>20131412 Coomers=faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:47:21 2022 No.20131422 File: 535 KB, 780x1152, e0118711f82e34600b5863f611954163.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20131404 keep reading bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:54:22 2022 No.20131442 >>20127307 In a recent /sffg/ we were talking about Catholic lit and I just found a used copy of The Sparrow for $4 so I'm going to read that very soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 21:54:58 2022 No.20131443 File: 21 KB, 396x385, 1644803944802.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20131417 You=faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:17:38 2022 No.20131497 File: 436 KB, 1080x989, 1679273585005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20131443

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:40:56 2022 No.20131558 >>20128972 It was pretty bad. I wouldn't recommend it.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:45:31 2022 No.20131571

Hey guys,

I just wrote a fantasy novel, which I'm in the process of querying to agents. A constant ask from queries is for similar books.

Problem is, I don't really read fantasy. I read historical fiction for the most part, and my book reads like one of those, but set in a made up world.

Can anyone recommend me some fantasy that has no magic, no fantasy races/creatures, and perhaps deals with esoteric religious themes?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:49:28 2022 No.20131581 >>20131571 Alt history

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 22:52:07 2022 No.20131588 >>20131581 Isn't that just set in the real world, but with alternative events? Like "what if Napoleon won?" or "Genghis Khan died after uniting the Mongolian steppe."

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:05:39 2022 No.20131617 >>20131571 Guy Gavriel Kay's books

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:09:30 2022 No.20131624 >>20131571 Umberto Eco perhaps

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:10:31 2022 No.20131626 >>20131571 Bernard Cornwell

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:10:56 2022 No.20131630

Holy shit I have no internet at home and I am 420 blazing through books. Downloaded about 7 the night before my net cut off but I have lots more random stuff on my kindle too
Rec me uncommon fantasy/sci fi/xianxia

In the past week ive read
Blade of Ghosts
7 1/2 deaths of Evelyn hardcastle (which was more like a nice VN but still)
Halfway through Heavens Laws: Prodigies
I tried First Fist and the first Kingshield book but I tire of medieval military fantasy

Phoneposting SUCKS but technology is wild where I can DL a game on my phone to transfer and play on my computer

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:12:03 2022 No.20131631 >>20131571 I could give a lot of others, but you haven't provided much detail about the setting. Are you just saying it's a secondary world to avoid research or to use real stuff but call it otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:13:34 2022 No.20131636 >>20127292 Which book written by a woman should I finish the month out with?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:13:50 2022 No.20131638 File: 148 KB, 605x1000, 1648376550900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20131571 Darkness that Comes Before

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:14:40 2022 No.20131640 File: 16 KB, 196x301, Armageddon2419.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20127292 Thoughts on Armageddon 2419 A.D.?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:15:17 2022 No.20131641 >>20131636 Forgotten Beasts of Eld was recommended a few threads ago and I am enjoying a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:16:42 2022 No.20131643 >>20131641 Not really interested in a YA fantasy romance, but thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:17:06 2022 No.20131645 >>20131636 Don't. Books written by women are trash. Don't be a c**mer.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:18:10 2022 No.20131649

>>20131631
It's a completely made up world. Or perhaps another way to look at it would be earth, with all the creatures and humans there, but the continents formed differently.

That make sense? Just people, but the map is different, and thus history obviously was completely different.

Kind of like ASOIAF, if that was only the story of the warring houses and free cities, with no dragons, or Others, or wizards, or Children of the Forest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:18:28 2022 No.20131650 >>20131643 Maybe some Bakker then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:19:46 2022 No.20131656 What are the 5 qualities that make the writing of Richard Scott Bakker stand out from his peers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:21:36 2022 No.20131664 >>20131650 Hi, I am new here, never read a book, I have seen Bakker mentioned a few times in this thread, is he a good author? where should I start with him?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:23:50 2022 No.20131670 >>20131650 >>20131656 >>20131664 FUCK OFF already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:28:58 2022 No.20131682 >>20131617 >>20131638 These are perfect! Thank you so much, my dear sirs!

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:30:15 2022 No.20131689

>>20131649
Can't you just say what you did about GOT? Though, that may be too popular.

Well, I will reiterate then, and you can figure out by your details known by you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Gavriel_Kay
Tigana (1990), taking place in a setting based on Renaissance Italy
A Song for Arbonne (1992), inspired by the Albigensian Crusade in medieval Provence
The Lions of Al-Rassan (1995), set in an analogue of medieval Spain
The Sarantine Mosaic, inspired by the Byzantium of Justinian I
The Last Light of the Sun (2004), inspired by the Viking invasions during the reign of Alfred the Great
Under Heaven (April 27, 2010), inspired by the 8th century Tang Dynasty and the events leading up to the An Shi Rebellion
Children of Earth and Sky (May 10, 2016) World based on Italy, Istanbul and the Balkans in the 15th century

Could say it's mixed in with:
Warlord Chronicles
A trilogy depicting Bernard Cornwell's historical re-creation of Arthurian Britain. The series posits that post-Roman Britain was a difficult time for the native Britons, being threatened by invasion from the Anglo-Saxons in the East and raids from the Irish in the West. At the same time, they suffered internal power struggles between their petty kingdoms and friction between the old Druidic religion and newly arrived Christianity. The author has often said that these are his own favourite stories, "I have to confess that of all the books I have written these three are my favourites

Umberto Eco, say, The Name of the Rose for the esoteric stuff

Some other somewhat similar as far as I know:
The Traitor Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
The Grace of Kings - Ken Liu

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:34:27 2022 No.20131699 >>20131682 Bakker is pathetic and so are you.

Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:36:33 2022 No.20131710

>>20131689
They apparently consider it bad form to compare yourself to the big names. But, I mean, that's usually who people are trying to emulate, so I don't get it.

Love the Warlord Chronicle, and all Cornwell's stuff. I do list that, even though it isn't fantasy.

Guy Gavriel Kay seems like the closest. Amusingly enough, he's apparently from the Canadian prairies like I am.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:37:42 2022 No.20131714 >>20131699 There must be some sort of joke I'm missing. I've never heard of Bakker before now - is he horrid?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:38:53 2022 No.20131719 >>20131714 FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:44:00 2022 No.20131726 >>20131719 Well this guy is obviously off his rocker. Anyone else care to explain? Is this one of those Reverand Insanity things where someone just keeps posting garbage? I don't hang out on /lit/ much and don't know all the memes yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:50:48 2022 No.20131750 >>20131726 Pathetic spammer shilling garbage that is Bakker, just ignore him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:51:31 2022 No.20131754 >>20131571 I haven’t read them but isn’t that what the Fire and I’ve Series is sort of about? Minus the dragons I thought there wasn’t much magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:53:00 2022 No.20131762 >>20131754 >>20131649 >Kind of like ASOIAF, if that was only the story of the warring houses and free cities, with no dragons, or Others, or wizards, or Children of the Forest. Imagine reading the reply chain before replying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:53:40 2022 No.20131768 >>20131750 Fair enough. >>20131754 Yeah, similar to that. But agents don't want you to say you tried to emulate the big names. Hubris, or some such thing. I would have assumed you'd WANT to emulate the big guys, because those are popular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 27 23:58:02 2022 No.20131780 >>20131768 You don't have to limit yourself to books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:00:50 2022 No.20131790 >>20131768 Ideally you probably want to two medium popularity choices because the popular is already oversaturated in the market far too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 00:36:22 2022 No.20131869 File: 57 KB, 328x500, 51kRkO-J-kL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuck women lole

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:00:07 2022 No.20131921 >>20131869 >book 11

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:04:05 2022 No.20131932 >>20131649 Perhaps if you shared more about your novel we would be able to give you a better answer. Is it character driven? Heavy on world building? Focused? Epic in scope? Idealistic? Grimdark? There's more to fantasy than just magic systems

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:45:34 2022 No.20132041 File: 115 KB, 800x1200, china mieville.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20127292 What should I read by China?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 01:49:15 2022 No.20132050 >>20128972 This guy is being shilled here a lot recently. Ad campaign or something?

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:41:58 2022 No.20132179

>>20131571
Hey fellow writer anon. Here is my tip: look up awards for books targeting the same demographic that you are, and pick the winners/shortlist to check the synopsis of. That don't have to be too similar, you just want to let them know what demographic/subgenre your book is for. Mentioning awards activates the two dim neurons in the agent's tiny brain which reminds them that someone is still interested in that particular sort of book. Referencing bestsellers does not activate their apelike systems of intelligence, mostly because too many queries already mention them, but also because the bestsellers have already sold. Usually the same thing repackaged doesn't sell twice - ironically, given that it's genre fiction. Anyways, good luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 02:50:15 2022 No.20132191 >>20130791 First one is best. Last one bit of a recovery.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 03:53:44 2022 No.20132325 >>20127292

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 04:14:57 2022 No.20132362 >>20132041 Nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 04:34:01 2022 No.20132404 >>20132050 I see some fantasy ads in /lit/, do you think its a good place for an ad campaign, like there is only a maximum of 100 /sffg/ posters and only 20 people would be interested enough to buy your book if you are lucky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 04:43:48 2022 No.20132432 >>20132404 If I were published, I'd be shilling my shit everywhere like a goddamn snakeoil salesman. But I see your point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 04:48:12 2022 No.20132441 >>20132432 I'd probably do it if I were published too, if I get one person to read my book I would be happy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 05:04:34 2022 No.20132480 >>20132441 I'll read your stuff now if you want, idgaf n.thane123@hotmail.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 05:14:18 2022 No.20132497 File: 1.10 MB, 1656x900, HammerSlammers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the Air Force equivalent of Hammer's Slammers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 06:31:08 2022 No.20132633 >>20132404 Just how new are you, what is zlibrary and what's an blocker

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:00:09 2022 No.20132690 >>20132497 What are you looking for in particular?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:00:10 2022 No.20132691 New and improved /sffg/ >>20132684

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:19:34 2022 No.20132733 >>20131404 Keep reading. Tolkien is a great author and one that shouldn’t be dropped.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:23:03 2022 No.20132747

>>20132690
If you were to read Hammer's slammers from the perspective of the military branch that deals the most(army-cavalry and some mech infantry) you would realize that it's actually capturing the spirit of that service too by talking about why they must be the way the are because they have to face their own specific struggles and have to do it with certain profiles of people.

For example: The warrior, it's about the difference between a soldier and a warrior, but from the perspective of a tanker.

But what if hammers slammers wasn't based around cavalry but around an air squadron? Now that story would be quite different as the idea of warrior vs soldier has very different connotations for airmen. And of course, the obstacles that the air force has to overcome are very different with people that tend to be safer in air bases but also much more specialized and technical.

So, when I asked for "whats the air force equivalent of Hammer's slammers" I was asking about a book that deals with the same things but from that perspective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:23:36 2022 No.20132748 >>20132041 The City and The City

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:32:49 2022 No.20132770 File: 82 KB, 494x760, 1648378044366 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Blond Beast comes marching Brunette peasents begin cowering Blond Beast dominates the crowd With a shout so fierce and loud

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:38:14 2022 No.20132787 >Self-publish libertarian Scifi writer makes a story about a colony seceding from Earth due to taxes and tariffs episode. It’s all so tiresome at this point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 07:38:49 2022 No.20132789 >>20132770 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 08:06:47 2022 No.20132857 >>20127292 Are there any more fantasy series like The Legend of Drizzt?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 08:26:35 2022 No.20132937 >>20131630 Respond to me you filthy niggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 08:29:12 2022 No.20132951 >>20132937 Hello, sir. I recommend reading anything that isn't garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 08:37:45 2022 No.20132986 >>20132937 Fuck off already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 08:52:18 2022 No.20133028 File: 3.14 MB, 3500x3500, 1648143989695.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20132951

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:17:10 2022 No.20133105 File: 129 KB, 343x258, 1647512072553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20132497 That's a nice tank. It would be a shame if futuristic weaponry completely negated it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:32:10 2022 No.20133147 >>20132986 No. I will never stop discussing books in sffg, newfag.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:34:58 2022 No.20133159
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>>20127292
feel free to shit on me I don't care.
I don't care about J.K. Rowling politics, drama, woke garbage etc... but I want to try to pick Harry Potter books. I know it's considered ultranormie shit and filled with a cringe fanbase but I remember reading the Philosopher Stone at 16 and I must admit that enjoyed it a lot. I later gave it to my father and he liked it a lot as well.
So do you think that it can be at least an entertaining read for a grown man?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:39:42 2022 No.20133178 >>20132497 Catch-22 probably

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:41:03 2022 No.20133183 >>20133159 The books themselves are full of woke garbage. In addition they are books for kids, the story and plot are just childish and not worth wasting time on them. But if you are immature neet then go ahead and read them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 09:59:14 2022 No.20133243 >>20131682 Bakker is full of magic btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:00:07 2022 No.20133247 >>20132050 He released a new book recently. You should really take your meds by the way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:02:44 2022 No.20133265 >>20133159 Why are you asking? You can finish them in a few days. Just read em if you want to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:10:50 2022 No.20133292 >>20133159 The first three are very good and tell a complete story. It begins to wobble at book four, and the remaining ones are like being hectored by an increasingly-strident Guardian reader.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:13:02 2022 No.20133302 >>20133159 They're decent kids' books with cozy settings and good character interaction, but the way the world works is utterly retarded. You can just watch the movies and not miss anything important.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:34:34 2022 No.20133367
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Is this any good?? I barely got through book 3 when it came out, and it deadened my interest in the series and the author to such an extent that I only now found out book 4 exists, I have also not read anything by him since. Is it worth reading? How is Sanderson doing in general??

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:37:35 2022 No.20133374 >>20133367 I think its non-good, because Sandy is unbased.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:44:03 2022 No.20133393 >>20133367 I heard the main character basically becomes superman by book 2. And there are supposed to be 10 books. So you know the power creep is going to be absolute garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:44:12 2022 No.20133394 >>20133367 >titled rhythm of war >some skank on the cover >you already know she won't even get raped because branderson is just marvelshit in disguise Hard pass

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:46:31 2022 No.20133399 >>20133394 >#1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER What did you expect.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:47:45 2022 No.20133402

>>20133367
>How is Sanderson doing in general??
Well he's recently put out the most successful Kickstarter ever, but as for book output he's been a bit stagnant actually, considering his usual. I personally generally liked Rhythm of War, it's basically a second Kaladin book with all that brings. It has the usual pacing issues of "three subplots all waiting on each other" but that's Stormlight in general. I think Sanderson in general has a problem of scope creeping, even if it is meant to be an eventually multiversal epic fantasy thing, it feels like things just ramp up all the time and never stop, across all his books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:57:40 2022 No.20133426 >>20127307 >planning on reading? I'm going on a trip in a few days and I'm going to read A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on the plane.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 10:59:35 2022 No.20133431 >>20133426 >reading the reddithiker's guide yikes

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 11:41:44 2022 No.20133552

>>20133028
Is The Magicians really isekai? Yeah they go to off-brand Narnia. But whole point of the books (fuck the show) is that you should appreciate and put elbow grease into the place you are, rather than wanting to be somewhere better. The whole narrative is anti-isekai.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 11:45:22 2022 No.20133559

>>20133552
Isekai/portal fantasy is just "character from other world (usually modern Earth) ends up in wildly different setting that's practically/literally a different world". The Magicians does involve an otherworldly journey, though it is more comparable to Narnia in that it's just a trip to the fantastic instead of being trapped there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:03:58 2022 No.20133637 Are there any good science-fantasy novellas with the over-the-top power metal-esque feel of cyborg Conan fighting skeleton wizards in space for the fate of an alien princess?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:07:08 2022 No.20133649 >>20132747 Still interested in books that capture the air force spirit

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:07:13 2022 No.20133650 >>20133637 Almuric, written by Robert E Howard, is very much just Conan in Space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:09:22 2022 No.20133659 Fuck you, anon, Master Hunter K was garbage

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:09:57 2022 No.20133663 >>20133659 Who the fuck ever recommended that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:10:15 2022 No.20133666 >>20133431 >retard trying too hard to fit in go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:11:29 2022 No.20133668 >>20133663 I someone haven't already, someone will in the future. Fuck him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:14:18 2022 No.20133677 >>20133668 It's on that Isekai/LitRPG image which is a complete hodge-podge of decent stuff, some very solid stuff and then just trash.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:27:17 2022 No.20133718

I'm currently reading a dungeon core slice of life litRPG pseudo-isekai harem story and I don't really hate it. I think I like the city-building part of the litrpg system the most and the rest is irrelevant. Anyone have any city/dungeon building autism books they can recommend? Smut is fine too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:28:58 2022 No.20133723 >>20133718 What is it you're reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:29:58 2022 No.20133728 >>20132857 What do you mean by that? There are literally 100s of books in the same setting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:32:41 2022 No.20133735 >>20133723 It's called Castle Core by Milo Storm

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:33:08 2022 No.20133741 >>20133552 The guy has made a few charts and there have been continuous complaints about all of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 12:34:48 2022 No.20133744 >>20133741 I'm not really sure what the purpose of the charts is. They just are "books that exist in this category", with no regard for quality, content, or whatever. Even just a quick sentence of what the books ARE would be nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:00:23 2022 No.20133852 >>20133159 Yes it's a very cozy series. You don't need our approval, Anon. Go for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:08:23 2022 No.20133885 >>20133159 I re-read them every couple years because they're such comfy reads currently at the end of book 6

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:11:55 2022 No.20133897 I reread Bakker every 6 months

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:18:32 2022 No.20133923 >>20133744 They're almost with exception, "just stuff I like or think other people like". Most likely because of the preferences for images due to imageboard culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:19:34 2022 No.20133926 >>20133923 >>20133744 There's probably also the assumption that the premise or idea is mostly sufficient for the supposed readers so that individual books don't really matter as much.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:31:31 2022 No.20133964

Holy shit I have no internet at home and I am 420 blazing through books. Downloaded about 7 the night before my net cut off but I have lots more random stuff on my kindle too
Rec me uncommon fantasy/sci fi/xianxia

In the past week ive read
Blade of Ghosts
7 1/2 deaths of Evelyn hardcastle (which was more like a nice VN but still)
Halfway through Heavens Laws: Prodigies
I tried First Fist and the first Kingshield book but I tire of medieval military fantasy

I will repost this until one of the four people who reads books shows up to recommend me titles

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:35:17 2022 No.20133980 >>20133964 The Darkness that Comes Before.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:41:58 2022 No.20134016
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I just finished The Blade Itself. I really liked it. It was my first experience with Abercrombie, and I can see why he's so popular here.

His character work is top-notch. At least as good as GURM, and better than any other /sffg/ book I've read in recent memory. In no time at all I became very fond of the three main characters.

Logen is a fantastic take on the fantasy barbarian, staying true to the archetype while offering a depth of soul that made him feel like an actual, living person. I rolled my eyes when the first chapter of the book was Fantasy Barbarian Character from the North fighting Generic Fantasy Enemy, but my hesitation vanished in no time at all. The part at the end where Logen goes berserk mode should have felt predictable, but for some reason it did not. Excellent.

I loved Jezal, even though/(especially because?) he's such a little shit. His introductory scene should be considered a masterclass in characterization. You begin with him looking at all of his "friends" playing cards in a circle, with him describing why each of his friends secretly thinks he's better than the others. I thought it was a really clever way to communicate that, in fact, Jezal was the only one there who thinks he's better than everyone else while also describing the side characters and setting the scene. Jezal's romance is the first time I've felt excited about a romantic subplot in ages.

Finally, Glotka has got to be one of the most compelling and original fantasy characters I've ever read. We like Glotka, despite the fact that he is a self-pitying, loathsome sadist. And moreover, most of his scenes are genuinely funny. The book has multiple torture scenes that had me chuckling out loud. Absurd!

Abercrombie's prose has bonafide charisma. Each POV character sounds entirely different and authentic, despite the fact it's written in 3rd person limited. Maybe I've just been reading too much Sanderson, but I found it refreshing to read a fantasy book with prose that's more than merely serviceable.

His plot was probably the weakest point. Pacing was weird. It felt like the book hit a climax about 3/4 of the way through, then had a lull right up until the end, where there was a second action climax for the next set of characters. It felt like certain fight scenes were inserted simply to be there, instead of serving the plot in any way. Still, though, there were some intense climactic moments between characters that literally made my jaw drop. Abercrombie certainly doesn't pull his punches and I'm excited to read more.

Characters: 5/5
Prose: 4/5
World: 3/5
Plot: 3/5
Action: 5/5

Also, big fan of the new cover art. Traditional pulp fantasy art can lick my balls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:48:16 2022 No.20134042 >>20134016 What about pozzedness? How bad is it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:53:18 2022 No.20134058 >>20134016 The plot will become 5/5 once you finish the trilogy, trust me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 13:54:25 2022 No.20134064 >>20134042 Only the new trilogy, age of madness, is somewhat pozzed. The original trilogy, first law, is fine in that sense.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:00:16 2022 No.20134098

>>20134016
I wasn't especially impressed when I read the first book, but it really builds on itself over time, over the course of the many books now. What the series is shifts over time. The first trilogy, especially the 2nd book, was too much of a traditional fantasy for me, but my appreciation for it all has grown over time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:01:19 2022 No.20134102 >>20134042 There's an important woman character. That immediately disqualifies it for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:23:36 2022 No.20134192 >>20127307 Circe. Song of Achilles is close enough to a 10/10 and this started promising enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:28:31 2022 No.20134206 is The Lotus Wars series worth reading? I have the first two books but they have remained untouched for a year

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:35:55 2022 No.20134231

>>20134206
If you have to ask other people to help provide motivation, then either you don't want to read it, you have a deeper problem that needs addressing, or both. If you don't feel the need to commit to finishing anything you start, read a chapter or two of it and see how you feel. Apparently it's YA dystopia. You should also consider what you've thought about the author's previous works, assuming you've read anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:47:28 2022 No.20134269 >>20134102 That sounds pretty pozzed. I don't understand why even introduce women characters in science fiction or fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:54:55 2022 No.20134294 >>20134192 What's the appeal of Song of Achilles`? I started it, but lost interest when they were called back from Chiron. I've read the Illiad and the Odyssee, but somehow I just couldn't bring myself to care.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:55:11 2022 No.20134296 >>20134269 Not only that, you don't understand why women are allowed to exist!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 14:59:50 2022 No.20134307 >>20133897 Any cool shit you noticed upon rereads? I finished the series right before Christmas and plan on rereading it this year, probably all books except TTT

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:00:49 2022 No.20134313 >>20134269 I put a shit ton of female characters in my sci fi, how else are you going to have fucking in a book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:02:39 2022 No.20134317 >>20134313 Sex has no place in science fiction or fantasy.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:06:39 2022 No.20134335

>>20134317
Maybe if ur an autist that's never had any real human relationships. sex sells, gets people invested in characters, gives some pay back emotional range and i need something to break up my own autistic rants about future economics and military ops.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:07:31 2022 No.20134337 >>20134335 How very commercial of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:08:10 2022 No.20134340 >>20134335 Ignore him, he's the resident troglodyte of /sffg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:12:32 2022 No.20134354 >>20134340 You're the resident righteous moral crusader.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:13:31 2022 No.20134360

>>20134337
well its more of an observation on my own tastes that I enjoy the romance subplots in a lot of otherwise very action/autism sci fi plots. Like Peter F Hamilton, he is a huge hack and writes sooooo much bloated sf with details in technology and economy and culture but he stuffs so much smut in the opening half of his books I kept slogging through. Same with Tom clancy shit.

I have little expectation of commercial success but hope the smut in my shit will at least keep some readers engaged.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:14:40 2022 No.20134365

>>20130939
Entry-level, inoffensive, uninspired, competent. I can't think of a single character I liked or I thought was well written and I didn't make it to the second book, but according to Goodreads they're better than anything Gene Wolfe, Poul Anderson, Jack Vance, Mervyn Peake, or Phillip K. Dick have ever written.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:15:14 2022 No.20134368 >>20134313 >how else are you going to have fucking in a book Why? it's not required

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:17:51 2022 No.20134383 >>20133980 I would have checked it out by now if it were not forced down my throat in every thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:18:24 2022 No.20134387 >>20134354 He's the resident pozzed of /sffg

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:19:49 2022 No.20134392 >>20134058 >>20134098 Awesome. Looking forward to it.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:22:36 2022 No.20134406

>>20134368
beyond sex in books there are other reasons to include female characters. They are usually good foils if you have male mc, they can give different perspectives on a society if it is like a fantasy place, you probably want at least one character that chick readers can project on to as they are a much larger reading group these days, you can push all your incel rage at them if you want. All sorts of options beyond fucking. It is not necessarily pozzed to have chicks in your books.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:25:16 2022 No.20134418

>>20134360
To be fair I could tolerate earlier PFH work, even though there was a lot of leftist ideas and tons of sex in them, but most of it was not that serious and could be skipped and ignored but that book with planet full of trannys was simply too pozzed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:26:11 2022 No.20134420 >>20134406 apozzlogist, an apologist for pozzed

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:31:42 2022 No.20134434

>>20134418
The Nightsdawn trilogy was pretty based in terms of politics. Typical neoliberal celebration of capitalism and free enterprise mixed with weird boot licking of monarchism, which I expect from british writers to some extent. Then a lot of sweaty descriptions of nubile teenage sex. I really enjoyed them lol. I haven't read his later stuff, what book was the tranny world one? Ill avoid it.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:45:58 2022 No.20134493

>>20134406
>beyond sex in books there are other reasons to include female characters.
Hardly

>They are usually good foils if you have male mc
unnecessary

>they can give different perspectives on a society
Same could be achieved with male characters, in fact males can do it better than females. Any kind of logical narrative based on reason will always sound better coming from a man. If it is a talk about feelings, romance or just talk about nothing in particular then females are well suited for this. But why would any author want this in their books is beyond me.

>if it is like a fantasy place, you probably want at least one character that chick readers can project on to as they are a much larger reading group these days,
Makes sense from commercial point of view, but regarding pure quality it does not.

>you can push all your incel rage at them if you want. All sorts of options beyond fucking. It is not necessarily pozzed to have chicks in your books
That is actually true, however 99% of the time it is pozzed because sadly most authors are liberal to some degree and almost always coombrained.

That is the issue, modern and not so modern sff authors have been conditioned, almost brainwashed to always include females in their work.
There is simply no objectively good reason to do so if one is trying write quality literature. There is absolutely no need to include women in literature.
Take any sff book, remove all sex and romance, remove or replace female characters with men and it becomes 100 times better than it was before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:50:15 2022 No.20134505 >>20134365 Haha, shit

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 15:54:00 2022 No.20134516

>>20134434
Salvation trilogy, it is 100% pozzed.
Basically everything after commonwealth saga took a huge hit in quality, void trilogy was the beginning of pozzed with strong focus on stong women characters, everything after that got progressively worse.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:02:41 2022 No.20134559

>>20134493
This just your opinion bro, you can't be going around making absolutist statements about art. Saying stuff like there is no need for females in books or that if you remove all the chicks, sex and romance they would get better is crazy. I already gave one example, the PFH books, they would be a huge snore fest especially in the start where it was like 500 pages of world building before the main action starts. And the interpersonal drama fuels a lot of character development of an otherwise shallow mc. And if it was replaced with just homo butt fucking it would be disgusting. A lot of plots rely on you know, human relationships to actually work. So many books would just not work at all plot wise without females. If you want to be full blackpilled woman hating and avoid all books with them that's fine, but don't go declaring shit like it is an immutable law.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:04:28 2022 No.20134569 File: 1.97 MB, 380x285, giphy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20134420 >apozzlogist

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:05:45 2022 No.20134576

>>20134516
void trilogy was such a fucking waste of time that guy cannot write endings, the moment the two dream brothers meet and realize they are real was the only good moment in like whole fucking shlock. I bought the hardcover of the first salvation book but could barely start it, then forgot about it, so ill just let it gather dust I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:06:06 2022 No.20134578 >>20134559 Why are you talking with that autist? He's literally obsessed with women and all he does is shitpost in these threads. You're trying to have a conversation with a chatbot, basically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:07:50 2022 No.20134583 >>20130939 Tried to read book 1 and was too bored to make it even halfway through it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:08:05 2022 No.20134584 >>20134578 first time in the thread in a long time, i can't keep track of the personalities, but i bet after my post he will see the error in his ways and get a gf.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:09:38 2022 No.20134587

>>20131067
>It's better than some of the generic "The X of Y" titles
Maybe take a closer look at those titles, anon

>THE [shadow] OF [what was lost]
>AN [echo] OF [things to come] (bonus points for using the indefinite article here I guess)
>THE [light] OF [all that falls]

It's the same shtick they just used phrases instead of single words in some places.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:10:48 2022 No.20134593 >>20134584 He's been active for a pretty long time, and is far too autistic to ever have a conversation with another person in real life if he's even half as autistic as he seems in these threads.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:11:16 2022 No.20134601

>>20134016
Abercrombie's like the only fantasy author who is actually good at writing action scenes. Most other fantasy writers make these stupidly long and dry, overly described snorefests that go on forever about the mechanics of movements, pushes and pulls etc. Abercrombie is like one of the few who actually gets that writing a fight scene really isn't supposed to be any different from normal writing. You set a mood, create impressions, focus on thoughts and emotions like fear and rage, and above all have chaos reign supreme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:12:06 2022 No.20134603 >>20131571 Maybe be honest about being influenced by historical fiction? Why lie to your agent?

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:18:17 2022 No.20134630

>>20134559
You are brainwashed, your entire brain goes into denial whenever you hear this mentioned, you simply refuse to objectively consider possibility that science fiction and fantasy is better without women. The night dawn trilogy was in infact a book and a half, everything of interest that happened actually happened to men or because of actions of men, pretty much all women, sex and so called interpesonal relationships was just padding. Joshua was a shit character and Hamilton spend like a thousand pages to prop him up with sex. It was a waste and a main reason that affected the quality of otherwise epic story.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:23:11 2022 No.20134655

>>20134601
>above all have chaos reign supreme
Agree, but it's good chaos. Like, I could still clearly picture where all the moving pieces were at any time, unless the confusion was deliberate. That's actually really hard in writing while keeping the pace appropriately fast.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:28:44 2022 No.20134687

>>20134630
lol well its cool that you also read them, but there was so much plot in that chick characters helped with, like the Louise girl that got knocked up, how would that whole plot line work? Pretty integral to the story. Same with the lord of ruin girl getting knocked up and also the african scientist lady trying to get her husband back, that was important. Or the slutty chick nailing everyone on Lalonde. I dunno there just so much you would lose from those books if there were no chicks. The jezzebel - Al story line, which i did not really like is maybe one that the romance and female character was not really necessary, although in the end he was able to go into the void peacefully because he died with her...
I agree the bigger issue was the josh was a shit character. And the ending was a shit show deus ex. Again this is a taste thing. You should get a gf though and see the other side.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:29:01 2022 No.20134691

>>20130306
>Never heard of it, is it any good?
Real, non-shitpost answer: Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn is considered a landmark series by Tad Williams that had a lot of influence on other authors. It was originally published in the late 1980s to early 1990s, and GRRM sites it as a major influence on his A Song of Ice and Fire (the actual series name for Game of Thrones, btw). I'm not sure what your frame of reference is for fantasy, and how much you've been exposed to other than GRRM. Tad Williams writes more in an older style of fantasy than GRRM dioes, though they both spring from what I would consider the Tolkienist branch of epic fantasy.

As for how good it is, that depends on your tolerance for very slow paced stories and very "traditional" epic fantasy tropes: callow youth is a destined hero, finds magic sword, rescues wayward princess, dragons, elves (good and bad flavors both), huge battles, uniting the land, ancient prophecy, fantasy europe by another name, etc etc. What Tad Williams does well is setting, mythology, atmosphere. How much you like his characters depends on if you can stay invested despite the very slow, gradual buildup that is the general pattern for how all his plots unfold. I very much like Tad Williams, but I also recognize he can be daunting for many people more accustomed to snappier, faster paced modern fantasy writing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:29:07 2022 No.20134692 >>20130417 Paranoid mage #1 >TFW you will never be a rogue spacial mage operator. The rest are lazy time loop shite or xinxia trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:38:49 2022 No.20134746 >>20133367 Well a lot of stuff happens in it that ups the stakes (again). But unfortunately it confirms Sanderson has no idea how to write Kaladin and made him a good character on accident.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:40:24 2022 No.20134761 File: 894 KB, 1696x2560, The Heart of What Was Lost.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20131067 >>20131045 The worst part is the first one's pretty much the exact same title as a pre-existing Tad Williams novel

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 16:49:39 2022 No.20134801

>>20134687
The women parts just read like some drama or romance fiction and those themes clashed with science fiction themes. This is the issue, science fiction and fantasy should not have the same themes from romance novels. I am not against sex, romance in romance or even normal fiction, but it should not exist in sff, because sff is above it, and if you add romance and sex then it becomes just another mundane genre fiction with no higher quality only fit for low iq people, women, coomers and idiots.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:00:33 2022 No.20134857

>>20134801
Nah the Louise subplot was a total fish out of water sci fi trope fest, it wouldn't have worked if she was a dude. Or the climax in the first book with the war reporter, that was mil sci fi at its finest with the reporter as a contrasting pov, again more effective with a woman, and both those cases the romance was really not important. Those plots need woman to really work but are not a drama or romance. Not sure i see the logic in saying woman make sff into genre fiction. sff is genre fiction even it it was only dudes. Really what you want is non-fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:01:52 2022 No.20134865 >>20134857 Why are you replying to the faggot who keeps saying pozzed. He does this every thread. You’re wasting your time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:04:12 2022 No.20134875 File: 422 KB, 716x1120, 1612372340273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20134865 I want to talk about the night dawn trilogy cause I really like the books, even if its only an autist talking about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:08:08 2022 No.20134887 >>20134875 You can always join the good reads group, and talk about it with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:11:42 2022 No.20134899 Is it ok to post a very short 4 line story I made up here?

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:12:37 2022 No.20134904

>>20134887
I hate making accounts and having my statements recorded permanently. like isn't this the best place to discuss sci fi on 4chan? i fully expect not to change anyones mind about interpretations of books, likewise this guy isnt gonna make me hate woman all of a sudden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:16:43 2022 No.20134926 >>20134899 no

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:17:04 2022 No.20134927 >>20134926 ok

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:18:01 2022 No.20134930

>>20134857
women who are not interested in love, romance, relationships and sex are just unnatural, such women don't work in sff literature (or in any literature), and to display women with their natural abilities and tendencies is even worse.
Those subplots could be all removed and the story will not suffer, it will improve instead.

>>20134865
Why are you so touchy? You want to discuss books but the moment you hear a different or opposing view you start seething? Yes pozzed, P O Z Z E D, word of the year 2022, deal with it you pozzed bugman.

>>20134875
I infact don't remember much about women parts, except where the wife possesed her husbands body, that was not a bad subplot (but still not sff), apart from that I was a teen when I read it and the whole evolution thing (and choices made by different races) was interesting, the concept of killing the souls in the beyond and the alien singularity were also very interesting to the younger me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:18:56 2022 No.20134934 >>20134927 jk anon post it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:19:39 2022 No.20134937 >>20134887 How do I post on goodreads? It's asking me to log in? Do you know username/pass that I could use?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:23:30 2022 No.20134954 >>20134875 The trilogy sounds interesting, but the first book is huge at over 1000 pages. Damn.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:24:42 2022 No.20134960

>>20134934
ok feel free to laugh at me, it's a sci fi horror story:

"First Steps"
>The year is 1969 AD, and humanity sets foot on the moon for the very first time.
>The year is 51,241 AD, and humanity sets foot on the moon for the very first time.
>The year is 24,917,823 AD, and humanity sets foot on the moon for the very first time.
>The year is 1,000,000,000 AD. We never made it to the moon.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:25:58 2022 No.20134962

>>20134954
people call it hard sci fi but it is pretty light honestly, you gotta push through the first 300 hundred or so pages of world building but then the big reveal happens and then you will be hooked for the whole trilogy. Actually now with everything that happened with covid it is even more relevant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:30:44 2022 No.20134977 >>20134962 I have no problem reading hard sci-fi, but it's been a long time since I've read anything over 300 pages. Seems a bit daunting atm. I've put in on my list, anyway. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:32:21 2022 No.20134987 >>20134962 Have you read Commonwealth saga, it is much more fun than Nightdawn trilogy.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:32:45 2022 No.20134988

>>20134904
>like isn't this the best place to discuss sci fi on 4chan?
It's the best place to find reliable discussion of SF on 4chan. There's other places it can spring up, but if you specifically want to talk about SF novels this is the place to find people who also read SF novels. However there's a big problem that make it unlikely for you to encounter people who've read any particular, less-popular book here. Namely: this general's population is pretty small. I've got a lot of pet theories for why that is, but suffice to say it's just the reality we live in. Small population means less probability of overlap in taste and reading lists, especially when the thread topic is this broad. SF alone has a dizzying array of sub-genres and styles with decades of history to it, but SF combined with Fantasy? It's immensely diverse. There's a reason it's the same authors over and over again. That's just about the only commonality you'll reliably get with the field of possibilities as spread out as this. You're very lucky if you can find more than one person who's read the same books not featuring in a top 50 list here.

That said we do have a very small collection of extremely wide-read posters here. I can't say for sure how many such posters there are, but it's not a lot, probably less than a dozen, if that. But they are voracious readers of their favorite genres and are probably the only reason non-mainstream books ever get any kind of discussion that isn't shitposting. Unfortunately, and probably because they spend so much time reading, they don't post as much as other people here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:38:09 2022 No.20135028 >>20134987 I've read the void trilogy which i did not really like. I know i fucked up by reading those first, what is so great about the first ones? Do they have the same mil sci fi + world building as nights dawn?

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:51:28 2022 No.20135084

>>20135028
It is very expansive, there are more planets, more technology, it also based on modern theories and concepts. It feels comfy. Basically the period described is a golden age of future human civilisation. Hamilton really outdone himseld with world builsing in Commonwealth saga. Also there is a ton of action on the ground, there is cool space battles. It is nothing like void trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 17:55:01 2022 No.20135098 >>20135084 ah excellent, the best part of the void trilogy was the weird medieval part with the water walker, everything else was shit. i think i have judias unchained on a shelve somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:02:28 2022 No.20135123 >>20135098 Do read Pandora Star first.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:13:08 2022 No.20135159

>>20133659
I thought it was pretty good. I mean, if you're going to get filtered by a Korean dual katana wielder and everything that goes with it, you shouldn't even start. But the premise allowed it to showcase a nice variety of settings with a nice variety of parties. I liked that he was the only one replaying and I liked the hidden boss. There's even a tiny bit if intrigue with the shop owner. It wasn't a masterpiece, but honestly what were you expecting from it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:14:45 2022 No.20135163 >>20134960 Reads like a bad creepypasta

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:30:05 2022 No.20135214 File: 61 KB, 300x400, 300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:34:51 2022 No.20135248 >>20130793 You're in for a long and wild ride. Shadow sucks but it gets better. By the time you reach Sword your mind will be blown away

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:36:14 2022 No.20135253 >>20131726 Bakkers good but his brand of edgy darkness attracts the worst fans. He's the Joker, the FF7, of sffg

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:39:13 2022 No.20135266 >>20135214 Congrats on having posted this 60 times over the last 90 days!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:39:51 2022 No.20135269 >>20132179 That's actually really good advice. Thanks, Anon! Have you had any luck querying?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:47:06 2022 No.20135296 >>20133718 Rogue Dungeon, if you want to try dungeon core with more backstory. Series does get weaker as it goes on, though. If building up a shambolic goblin tribe into a dark god's war machine sounds interesting, Life Reset.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:51:20 2022 No.20135313 >>20135266 Did you read it, tho?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 18:56:20 2022 No.20135331 >>20131404 Stop being a pleb, but do get around to watching the movies, they are very good in their own right but movies and books don't replace each other.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:10:08 2022 No.20135405 File: 282 KB, 655x527, EWJ2FbdXgAM0Ql9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20135331 >lotr movies >good

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:32:21 2022 No.20135493 >>20133426 Don't come back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:34:54 2022 No.20135505 >>20133394 based take

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:36:31 2022 No.20135518 >>20135493 anon, why are you still seething about that post 9 hours later? seek help.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:37:01 2022 No.20135522 >>20135313 No, I did not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:38:59 2022 No.20135533 >>20131404 No don't bother, the films are vastly inferior and it'll ruin your visualisation of the book The books pick up once you get to Bree just continue reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:41:54 2022 No.20135545 >>20135405 Being mindlessly contrarian makes you look just as stupid as the people who are mindlessly conforming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:43:25 2022 No.20135551 >>20135518 It's normal to seethe over old posts on /sffg/. Happens all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:52:19 2022 No.20135586 >>20132041 Journey to the West

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 19:55:07 2022 No.20135602

>>20131404
>>20135405
>>20135533
Threadly reminder that Tolkien was a mediocre author on par with Joe Abercrombie or Garth Nix, and impressions otherwise are a result of globohomo brain washing + nostalgia for being 11~15. His chief contributions to the genre, which existed before he was born, are gay fake languages and Tom Bombadil. Lord of the Rings is the weakest of his 3 major works. It's self-indulgent and ridiculously long winded. The movies do a better job telling the story and make no remarkable omissions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:03:46 2022 No.20135648 >>20135602 >Tolkien was a mediocre Stopped reading. Stop being such a contrarian fag for attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:09:45 2022 No.20135677 Will the Sandersoi secret project books continue to print or is it only for his only fans?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:21:53 2022 No.20135719 >>20135677 What does it matter to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:26:01 2022 No.20135731 >>20135602 Lol you’re having a meltdown

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:26:34 2022 No.20135734 >>20135719 I could read one if it's got good reviews

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:29:00 2022 No.20135740 I’m not going to read any fantasy after LOTR, it’s the only good series in this garbage dump of a genre

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:42:20 2022 No.20135782 File: 238 KB, 859x1200, vincent_segrelles_003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't read epic fantasy anymore; even epic fantasy I'm interested in reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:43:33 2022 No.20135788 >>20135740 Must be boring to only have 3 generic fantasy books and 1 manlet YA to read. They are good, I too enjoyed them when I was 13. But damn the story just gets old. How many people that love Star Wars actually pop in A New Hope over and over?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:47:28 2022 No.20135800 >>20135782 That's life. Deal with it or don't. It doesn't matter either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:48:01 2022 No.20135804 >>20135788 Gonna cry about it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:48:25 2022 No.20135805 >>20135522 I got memed into reading Library at Mount Char by that one guy who insisted it was the answer to everything and never regretted it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:48:25 2022 No.20135806 >>20135800 Shut up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 20:55:11 2022 No.20135830 >>20135740 If you revere Tolkien, you ought to read the American Tolkien too. Nothing wrong with skipping all the rest though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:03:10 2022 No.20135869 >>20135805 No one else is you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:10:28 2022 No.20135899 >>20134960 >>20135163 Might actually make a decent creepypasta if it was expanded some.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:14:19 2022 No.20135911 >>20135788 >How many people that love Star Wars actually pop in A New Hope over and over? I like to pretend this is the only Star Wars movie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:17:14 2022 No.20135920 >>20135804 No, but I pity you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:18:57 2022 No.20135930 >>20135677 Yes. He does not not know when or who will doing the post kickstarter physical editions, but he plans to make the ebooks and audiobooks available about a week after the backers get them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:25:00 2022 No.20135951 >>20127312 A Call To Arms by Alan Dean Foster

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:27:22 2022 No.20135961 >>20135930 Thanks. Yeah I don't really trust them being any good. Seems like he hasn't really written a hit in a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:27:52 2022 No.20135964 >>20135804 Do you think having an inner monologue is the same as hearing voices?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:33:35 2022 No.20135991 >>20135920 >>20135964 I accept your defeat

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:40:49 2022 No.20136009 >>20135991 I surrender. My boipvcci is yours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:49:52 2022 No.20136037 Is Glen Cook's Black Company series good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:51:04 2022 No.20136040 >>20136037 No, only the first book is good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:56:33 2022 No.20136061 >>20136037 No. 2 No and 0 Yes. There's now a 100% chance of you not liking it. That's how asking whether something is good or not in this thread works for you, right? Why would you ask otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:58:58 2022 No.20136066 I’m illiterate

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 21:59:23 2022 No.20136069 >>20136037 You kinda have to read it and find outs anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:03:43 2022 No.20136090 >>20136066 You'll fit right in here

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:03:56 2022 No.20136091 >>20136037 Give it 100 pages. Cook is one of those authors you'll have strong feelings about pretty much immediately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:04:19 2022 No.20136096 >>20135951 Ok, sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:04:31 2022 No.20136098 >>20135869 It became a book of the month. Lots of anons liked it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:07:15 2022 No.20136115 >>20136098 It was actually twice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:11:08 2022 No.20136134 >>20131636 URSULA K LE GUIN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:12:36 2022 No.20136136 >>20136134 >URSULA stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:13:49 2022 No.20136144 >>20133367 sanderfag a hack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:14:54 2022 No.20136145 >>20136136 She's one of the best writers. Why do you hate her?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:16:21 2022 No.20136148 >>20136145 she is a **man

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:17:41 2022 No.20136152 >>20136136 nigger grade opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:18:20 2022 No.20136156 >>20136148 Ah, you don't read and only shit up /sffg/, because you got no life. Got it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:18:50 2022 No.20136159 >>20136152 rude

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:19:12 2022 No.20136160 >>20136156 you are such a fag holy shit dude kys kys

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:20:38 2022 No.20136166 >>20131636 I need a couple more Anons to guinnea pig Tamryn Tamer for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:24:51 2022 No.20136172 >>20131636 Tanith Lee

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:27:06 2022 No.20136181 new thread >>20136179

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:28:22 2022 No.20136188 >>20127292 >https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg I join this group, but I haven't been accepted yet, did I do something wrong?

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:28:50 2022 No.20136191

>>20136134
While Le Guin is a great writer, I've already read the the vast majority of what she's written and the rest I'm probably not going to read. At least not anytime soon. Maybe I'll feel a need someday.

>>20136166
How about never. Also, it's a pen name and may not even be women.

>>20136172
Probably not, I haven't liked what I've read from here before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:29:46 2022 No.20136198 New thread >>20136190 >>20136190

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:30:01 2022 No.20136200 >>20136198 Fuck off already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:30:33 2022 No.20136203 >>20136198 Why do you keep changing the goodreads link.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:31:34 2022 No.20136212 >>20136181 This is the one.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:32:18 2022 No.20136217

>>20136188
It's only been 1.5 hours since you applied.
I don't get any sort of notification when someone does.
Also, yes, you have done something wrong.
You didn't follow the join requirement of having a single book read.

JOIN REQUIREMENT: A /sffg/ book shelved as read.
Profiles without any books are immediately rejected.
If you are rejected, you may apply again immediately.

Fortunately for you, your profile has a single book listed as reading.
When you fix your problem of not having read any books, I will approve your joining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:32:43 2022 No.20136220 >>20136191 >can't handle tanith Yeah, nah, don't care what you think any more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:34:10 2022 No.20136225 >>20136220 You shouldn't have in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:35:43 2022 No.20136232 >>20127309 Surprised we didn’t get any new reviews.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:36:53 2022 No.20136241 >>20136232 If you mean in the thread just created I just haven't got around to it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:37:21 2022 No.20136244 >>20136217 sounds like reddit group membership

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:38:27 2022 No.20136250 >>20136198 This is the one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:38:35 2022 No.20136251 >>20136188 Ok, added. >>20136244 How so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 22:44:30 2022 No.20136277 >>20136251 Ignore him, he’s just shitting up.

Anonymous Mon Mar 28 23:13:53 2022 No.20136392

>>20136152
Her axe-grinding chimpouts pushed the right buttons in the seventies, but in the current year we've heard it all before. If she's made her bed then let her go lie in it unmolested. But her topics are dreary in this modern world so if she wants to discuss the future she can promenade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 23:49:16 2022 No.20136499 >>20127292 That picture lowkey reminds me of roadside picnic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 23:49:37 2022 No.20136501 22 deleted posts in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 28 23:54:16 2022 No.20136515 >>20136501 You do know you’re giving them a reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:02:36 2022 No.20136543 >>20136501 >>20136515 Janny is probably the tripfag promoting goodreads. The new thread has like two active posters and 30 replies already. Any mention of Bakker/tranny/po**ed results in deletion. Not sure anymore if I am on 4chan or reddit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:14:05 2022 No.20136576 >>20136543 I assure you if that I were the janny, there would be many more times the deletions and I'd be removed as a janny very quickly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:19:42 2022 No.20136589 >>20136576 I bumbed the other sffg thread, you better samefag now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:32:20 2022 No.20136639 >>20136576 I bumped it again (and you deleted your reply to yourself). I see now there are 3 new replies but same amount of active posters, kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:35:38 2022 No.20136646 >>20136589 >>20136639 Whatever you want to believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:40:04 2022 No.20136660 >>20136646 You are behind on page 2 my reddit friend, better do something about it...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:42:03 2022 No.20136667 >>20136660 You assume that matters to me. I couldn't care less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:44:26 2022 No.20136680 >>20136667 It is obvious from your posts you care very much about shilling goodreads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:46:06 2022 No.20136688 >>20136680 No, I don't care the site. It could be any site. All I care about is what utility and benefit it brings those using it. I am amused by your ghost bumping though: >>/lit/thread/S20130302

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:54:10 2022 No.20136714 >>20136688 there is no need to pretend, just use reddit I am ghostbumping simply to make you change your ip more often. Having 30 replies without increasing the poster count is unsightly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:56:55 2022 No.20136721 >>20136714 I haven't changed my IP a single time. I'm also amused that you're so concerned about aesthetics like that for whatever reason. Either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 00:59:31 2022 No.20136730 >>20136721 You really have to stop giving schizos the time of day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:00:11 2022 No.20136731 >>20136721 >t. reddit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:02:57 2022 No.20136738 >>20136730 That's about as likely as you stop posting about how I and others shouldn't be doing whatever and being morally indigent about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:06:36 2022 No.20136744 >>20136730 >>20136738 back to >>>/reddit/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:12:34 2022 No.20136750 >>20130726 You're in for a dangerously comfy time, fren

Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:16:47 2022 No.20136764

>>20131045
It could only work if they actually mean something to the book and central to the story
>the shadow of the torturer
>the claw of the conciliator
>the fellowship of the ring
I guess
>a song of ice and fire
Etc.
If you read it and then you think the title is perfect and can only fit that book, then it's fine. Otherwise it's pretentious and unispired

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:18:24 2022 No.20136769 >>20136764 Are you sure that isn't just an emotional reaction on your part for liking those books? Halo effect and all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:24:04 2022 No.20136781 >>20136769 Yeah, probably. What's your point? I'm saying that the titles are good if they fit thematically or literally with the story being told. How I feel about them doesn't matter

Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:29:44 2022 No.20136791

>>20136781
Ok, so you're saying these would be good titles since they fit thematically or literally with the story being told.
A Sword of Power
The Dragon's Demise
An Unwavering Justice
Poisoned Apple Festival

I meant that it's something more than just that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:33:19 2022 No.20136798 >>20131630 >another thread full of newfags who don't read books Sasuga

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:35:03 2022 No.20136803 >>20136798 No, it's mostly becuase of the xianxia and unpopular/unliked books so anons don't know what to rec you.

Anonymous Tue Mar 29 01:46:54 2022 No.20136830

>>20136803
>unliked
The Evelyn book has been mentioned maybe 3 timea total here in the past while nobody else has read the other books.
One big problem comes from me being, as autistanon previously described, a monster who voraciously consumes within my subgenres but 1) I know of no other monstera and 2) under 10 active reading posters is the absolute most I can believe browse here. We are like /v/ in that we are surrounded and even mostly populated by people who don't read recreationally or at all.

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