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Why yes my favourite part of Lolita is when Humberts wife finds his writings and then gets ran over whats yours?

also, Nabokov general

>> No.20125614

The muscle tearing.

>> No.20125670

>>20125614
i dont remember that bit, can u remind me what happens?

>> No.20125704

>>20125670
First fuck

>> No.20125707

>>20125704
based

>> No.20125709

>>20125506
apple scene

>> No.20126294

>>20125506
The part about Lo's sobs in the night made me emotional.

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>Dolores is a Spanish name meaning pains or sorrows (in reference to Virgin Mary's suffering during the Passion of Jesus Christ)

>> No.20126326

>>20126294
kino

>> No.20126519

>>20125506
When he meets Lolita again and she is pregnant and older, shits so weird and the weirdest part is that I could see that exact scenario happening in real life, Lolita even accepting what happened. Idk, it’s just what I remember most, aside from the scene where she sits on the couch next to him and I think he was secretly masturbating or something, but I only remember that part because of how I felt while reading it

>> No.20127433

>>20125506
Any confrontation between Humbert and Quilty, specially because my retarded brain assumed Quilty was not a real person but a manifestation of his own psyche rejecting his pedophiliac nature, and showing it in a much more "raw" image than Humbert's own multiple copes.

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>>20125506
I read Lolita when i was in love, the last time i was in love 10 years ago. I bought all of Nabokov books after that FEEL.

>> No.20128067

>>20125709
a cupped polished plop?

>> No.20129068

>>20126294
Same, caught me off guard and woke me up. Reminded me that what i'm reading isn't actually the truth, but rather the story re-told by an old pedophile with metal issues in prison.
A rare moment of clarity in his delusional retelling.

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The scene of Lolita playing tennis is certainly the highlight for me. In the imagery he paints there, Humbert succeeds, more so than anywhere else in the novel, in capturing once and for all the "perilous magic of nymphets." Nabokov even saw it fit to anoint this scene with a butterfly flying by her and the tennis net.

The Ramsdale class list is also a deeply disturbing but interesting scene, and includes my favorite line of the book "...the rest of that colorful classroom around my Dolorous and Hazy darling..."
Also, a scene stands out to me in which Humbert takes Lolita to a play directed by Quilty with 6 other school-children in it, each dressed as one of the colors of the rainbow. It is particularly evocative as well, especially since it makes use of the same symbolism when Humbert explains he hurried Lolita out of the theatre before she could make contact with anyone else there, and contrasts her to the colorful kids onstage by calling her "my own ultraviolet darling."

These kinds of subtle nods that Lolita's childhood is being taken from her have such a sad punch to them.

>> No.20129178

when he's going on about charlotte's fish lips

>> No.20129212

>>20127985
I first read it when I was 17 after seeing it memed so much. Odd to think I was actually only Lolita's age at the end of the book when I first read it. I couldn't get it at all. Most of the references and puns were totally lost on me, and I was so immature in my belief on the world and women in general as to believe Humbert at face value when he tells us that Dolores Haze is actually the one trying to seduce him. I missed so much in it.

5 years later I read it again, this time with the annotations and a much more open mind and I realize now what a masterpiece it is. One of the few books that has made me cry.

What Nabokov book is your second favorite?

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>>20126519
>When he meets Lolita again and she is pregnant and older, shits so weird and the weirdest part is that I could see that exact scenario happening in real life, Lolita even accepting what happened.
"She had never called me honey before"

>> No.20129224

>>20125506
yeah it was hilarious
Lolita is one of few books that made me laugh out loud.

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>>20126519
>When he meets Lolita again and she is pregnant and older, shits so weird and the weirdest part is that I could see that exact scenario happening in real life, Lolita even accepting what happened.
"She had never called me honey before"

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>>20125506
Anons the local Thomas Mann society here is celebrating its 10 year anniversary, I have a half-baked idea to write a short, spicy commentary and criticism based on Nabokov's opinion on the guy and/or the Germans. Specifically I'm vaguely remembering a quote on Thomas Mann with off-hand mention of Theodor Dreiser/Sister Carrie (I think), pretty sure the legend called Mann a giant cliché, possibly with reference to Joseph and His Brothers.
Does anyone know the quote or am I crazy? Having shit luck finding it. In fact I'd be grateful for any spicy quotes you might know from Nabokov on Mann (with a source I can quote, thanks).

>> No.20129540

>>20129212
not op. i enjoyed pale fire as much as lolita.

>> No.20129555

>>20129334
Mann, Thomas. Dislike him. Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up.
Death in Venice. Asinine. To consider it a masterpiece is an absurd delusion. Poshlost. Mediocre, but anyway plausible.
probably not what you're thinking of but may still be of use

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>>20129555
thanks my checked anon, you helped me find this https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/5538/did-vladimir-nabokov-know-thomas-manns-works which also has a source:
"Ever since the days when such formidable mediocrities as Galsworthy, Dreiser, Tagore, Maxim Gorky, Romain Rolland and Thomas Mann were being accepted as geniuses, I have been perplexed and amused by fabricated notions about so-called "great books." That, for instance, Mann's asinine "Death in Venice," or Pasternak's melodramatic, vilely written "Dr. Zhivago," or Faulkner's corn-cobby chronicles can be considered "masterpieces" or at least what journalists term "great books," is to me the sort of absurd delusion as when a hypnotized person makes love to a chair. My greatest masterpieces of twentieth century prose are, in this order: Joyce's "Ulysses"; Kafka's "Transformation"; Bely's "St. Petersburg," and the first half of Proust's fairy tale, "In Search of Lost Time.”
I mixed up mediocrities and clichés and this quote: "Nothing but cliches (a more ambitious sentence often turning out to be an accumulation of several cliches), and his humor remindful of that of Max & Moritz. Moreover, he finds Mann's psychology artificial and his characters made to develop so as to fit the author's teleological purpose" — apparently not actually a quote by Nabokov, but his wife reporting his opinion (in a letter to a 'Prof. Paul Kurt Ackermann).

>> No.20129889

>>20129854
>Bely's "St. Petersburg
Anyone read this? I'm curious about the book, but I don't know whether it's worth reading in translation.