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Can someone explain to me why do commies, or leftists in general come to 4chan? I never understood this. Don't they know that this site is extremely racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic, anti-feminist and basically hates most stuff that leftists/commies stand for? (For example, private ownership or the age of consent). Are they trying to subvert people here? Books about this?

>> No.20117294

>>20117281
You do know how theists created baptism? Well atheists are normal too and they need a baptism too.
In atheism there are 2 baptisms
-the real one is to go protesting and virtue signaling in the streets and face the local cops, once you receive your first tear gas, you are baptized
-the second one is going online and doing what you said

This despair for baptism, even tho they are atheists, stem from the deep lack of boredom of the atheist. Atheists have removed all their enemies, ie kings and priests , from direct political power and this makes the atheist feel alone.
Atheists need a constant enemy in order to feel united against a common cause and to feel on the right side of history.

>> No.20117296

>>20117281
>Books about this?
wow i was just about to dismiss your idiot thread as being off topic b8 but you saved it just at the last moment

>> No.20117299

>>20117281
There's people that have been on 4chan since like, 2003, before the CIA launched some faggot ass program to turn a bunch of gullible 12 year olds BASED AND REDPILLED NAZISSS to feed the other side of a destabilizing dialectic so as to usher in the NWO. 4chan once was a coalition of, simply put, people who were smart and knew better. We started uncovering real shit we weren't supposed to. So they turned into LOL HITLER WAS BASED D00D and then they turned normie internet into LOL CUTTING YOUR DICK OFF IS SO COOL DUDE AND LENIN WAS THE MAN and made them fight with each other. By the end they're gonna step in, that Klaus faggot will be like HUMANZ CANNOT BE TWUSTED NOT TO FIGHT ZEY NEED ZEIR GOVUHMENTS HALP TO GET ALONG FOR GLOBOW STABILITEE.

If they're true leftists from back in the day then they're just people who never left 4chan and you're forgetting how new you are. If they're "new leftists," aka reddit trannies, they're probably either here to troll, post on some less political blue boards, or, in a vain, retarded, misguided hope of "converting the ebil Nazis to the light"

>> No.20117307

>>20117281
>Are they trying to subvert people here?
In the last few years they've been trying to shill stalin as LE BASED MAN in /his/ and creating thinly-veiled threads where they shill communist literature on /lit/. They've been doing the same thing on /sci/ too with race and IQ. So yes, that part is pretty true from my experience.

>> No.20117309

>>20117281
>Are they trying to subvert people
Yes, always, 24/7. It's simply what they do.

>> No.20117315

>>20117309
Lmao you dumb faggots always keep an eye out for the leftist Boogeyman coming to subvert you while cheering on images of Adolf fuckin Hitler. Blissfully unaware that you were subverted many years ago, by the motherfuckin Intelligence Agencies.

>> No.20117319
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It's good that they come here, as my free time consists of BTFOing Marxoids here and some other boards.

>> No.20117325

>>20117299
Retard newfag detected. 4chan community was always nihilistic, racist, homophobic, etc, if not for any other reason then just because it was fun and edgy

>> No.20117329

>>20117319
Wow dude that's really accomplishing something. You're rebelling for real and the entire quasi movement you're a part of wasn't cooked up on a storyboard back in Langley. The world's only gotten better, you're nearly there! I bet we will have the fourth Reich, and not become global techno slaves.
Keep fighting with your fellow slaves over ideologies that haven't been relevant since fuckin 1947, its a huge victory and not a diversionary waste of energy that will also provide ammo for putting you in fuckin Peace Jail

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>>20117315
Yes, but at least they were paid for it, the trannies do it for free.

>> No.20117334

>>20117325
Lmao bitch nigger you have no idea who you're even talking to right now. Yeah that was always a part of it but that's just what it is, exactly that. Nihilistic edgy humor. Lmao go over to /pol/ you think they're still joking? You think fuckin modern day /pol/ is what /b/ was like? Settle down junior you're out of your element

>> No.20117337

>>20117281
Because I'm a leftist for some aspects (mainly economics and ecology, I'm against privatization and for universal income), and not for others (I still hate trannies and niggers, and my country is more important than globohomo), that's all. Tending towards a political side does not mean that we accept absolutely all the arguments of this side.

>> No.20117338

>>20117299
Everything that OP mentioned was always here, anon. Especially racism, and homophobia. But I do agree that Hitler and Marx/Lenin/Stain worshipping is fucking stupid.
Also, most "true" leftists here ARE discord, reddit and /leftypol/ trannies.

>> No.20117339

>>20117281
Legit kill yourself

>> No.20117342

>>20117334
>Lmao bitch nigger you have no idea who you're even talking to right now.
lol you forgot the bit about being the best sniper in your class or whatever

>> No.20117343

>>20117338
The various degeneracy that was here in the old days was basically countercultural irreverence. Now it's unironic Hitler worship and people thinking there are literally Jews hiding in the rafters of their ceiling, waiting to strike. It's not the same and it's a PSYOP.

>> No.20117348

>>20117334
/pol/ replaced /b/ in its extremism and edginess and /b/ nowadays is just reddit-lite filled with niggers, trannies and porn.

>> No.20117350

>>20117342
I was the best sniper on /b/ I have over 6 million confirmed kills
I wiped out whole bloodlines on /b/. You done goofed son imma rape your whole family

>> No.20117361

>>20117343
Nowadays, religiousness is counter-culture, anti-degeneracy, inceldom, hating niggers/faggots/trannies, they're all counter-culture. So, not many things have changed.
>Now it's unironic Hitler worship
You could say the same thing about leftists here worshipping Stalin/Marx too.
>there are literally Jews hiding in the rafters of their ceiling, waiting to strike
/pol/ and /int/ has tons of israeli flags posting everyday.

>> No.20117362

>>20117348
/pol/ didn't replace shit, they're just not the same. /b/ had it's problems and paved the way, through it's nihilism, to a lot of the cancer we deal with online currently. But it was almost always ironic.
/pol/ is not ironic, and any irony displayed is a mask for sincerity. There is a small selection of people who post there, myself included, who understand the real score and how Full Spectrum Domination (look it up) actually works, what the real plans are. Then there's a sea of halfwit retards who have decided that venerating the third Reich is the way to get things done. They're all going to wind up in jail or breaking rank after the first set of Purges. They will be used, along with the clown tier left, to force a new center controlled by the global elite. Follow with me:
>The internet is producing scary Nazis we cant just leave it as it is
>The internet is producing insane trannies we cant just leave it as it is
>Introducing Corpo-Net brought to you by the WEF and the United Nations, it's edited for your safety and to reflect the principles on which we all agree...or else!

>> No.20117365

>>20117361
>You could say the same thing about leftists here worshipping Stalin/Marx too.
I do say the same thing about them.
>/pol/ and /int/ has tons of israeli flags posting everyday.
Listen, if you want to have a real conversation about this, I will. If you want to use edge cases to pretend the blatant reality, isn't real, then I'm all set.

>> No.20117369

>>20117362
>There is a small selection of people who post there, myself included, who understand the real score
the illusion of asymmetric insight, writ large

>> No.20117370

>>20117329
You already live in technocracy anon, wake up.

>> No.20117374

>>20117369
It's just true. In times of mass hysteria, who's got the insight? The majority?

>> No.20117376

>>20117370
I know that, but technocracy isn't what /pol/ thinks it is. Psychological warfare is more complex than they realize. Also a lot simpler too.

>> No.20117377

>>20117281
>post gaymergatefag presumes to tell me what the fitting politics are of a website whose only defining characteristic is autism
Nigger is a state of mind, and you are a giganigger.

>> No.20117379

>>20117377
Well put

>> No.20117383

>>20117362
Old /pol/ and new /pol/ is not the same thing. The dudes who worship hitler there are not even the majority.

>> No.20117392

>>20117365
>edge cases
Come on now.

>> No.20117400

>>20117281
This whole "LE BASED" internet matrix is tired and boring. There is nothing more cringe than a fag who just discovered it screaming the "good news"
Zealot of a new convert. We know the religion faggot, we heard it 10 billion times for the previous 10 billion drones that came before you

>> No.20117401

>>20117383
I've thought before that there's gotta be a shitload of bot flooring there these days, no way most anons are that sheepish and retarded. But even the redpill stuff that doesn't go full Nazi is pure mind poison. Some people reject Hitler but they spend their time fearing the opposite sex and lashing out at them through stereotypes of whores with other lonely guys. The main point is they have crafted an enemy out of the other half of the population who /pol/ has declared the essence of evil and has no ability to see as human anymore. They've done the same thing in vice versa. And so the games proceed and everybody plays but nobody wins

>> No.20117403

after the american socialists realized in 2012 with occupy wall street that
-since socialism was supposed to be a bridge to communism, and since communism failed, socialism was meaningless
-socialists being braindead, they did not have anything to offer to their audience (ie the 'proletariat)
-young yuppies are atheists, they love humanism, and they are desperate to show how good they are at virtue signaling using their freedom of speech
-it is the best opportunity for the socialists to create a socialism independent of whatever the fuck remains of communism, and to cater to a new market: the city-dwellers who just want to fill up their lives with righthink and to hear how good they are for liking humanism all day long.

>> No.20117408

>>20117392
Totally is man I'm on /pol/ a fair amount. It's not "swarming with Israelis." At least half those posts are people VPNing and even then they don't pop up that often. There is more diversity there than the "Nazi" trope would have anyone believe, but it also isn't like that shit is a lie or whatever. It's genuinely a big part of the main culture, or it's little cousin, "muh redpilled" culture.

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Election tourist checkin' in.
YWNBAW.
Sneed.
Praise Kek.

>> No.20117413

>>20117403
You're an imbecile throwing around words you don't understand to describe concepts too complex for you to comprehend

>> No.20117417

>>20117403
Every single fucking person today short of taliban zealots and inner amazon jungle tribes is a "humanist"
Your post is embarrassing

>> No.20117419
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I wish I wasn't a zoomer so I could have seen for myself what 4chan was like in 2003.

>> No.20117428

The final stance of all this bullshit is that 4chan is largely a disgusting shithole full of literal retards, and once you self actualize and self educate beyond the level of a monkey you find nothing of value here
At this point I only click the links out if habit. Every post gives me a visual gesture of disgust. Pure stupidity

>> No.20117433

>>20117401
No, no. /pol/ is DEFINITELY filled with bots and shills. And also, huge loads of redditards. But some generals are fine and isn't filled with them. Russia situation made /pol/ even more retarded.

>> No.20117435

>>20117419
It was funnier, freer, and 1000x more horrifying. There's a lot of people who didn't make it. Consider that Chris Chan was an oldfag and by the end he cut his dick off and raped his own dementia afflicted mother then defended it as "love."

It was funnier. I miss it often. But bear in mind we were exposed to non stop visual stimulation that included hardcore gore and torture videos from the third world, every type of degenerate porn you can imagine including CP, and sheer insanity in the form of textual screeds. There are times I look back and considering what it's become, I believe it was a psychological experiment conducted by military intelligence. It was very similar to mkultra minus the physical torture, but it was able to induce psychotic breaks the same way, through trauma repetition, and new identities can be molded out of that. A lot of the people who became Tumblr trannies and other forms of insane, started on /b/, looking at shit porn and dead bodies and shit. Over and over.
>>20117428
I get what you're saying, but be real with yourself. That's not why you're still here. I still come here because despite all it's issues, there are still people here with knowledge that most people don't have, and I can barely relate to anyone else due to it. I come here for those once in a blue interactions where I can talk with someone and truly feel at home.

>> No.20117438

>>20117403
>attacks "humanists"
>anlayzes and concludes the progression of reality as a result of the actions of humans as individual actors, bottom up dynamic of societies
Kek
Dumbass. Read Candide

>> No.20117440

>>20117433
Agreed on most fronts except I'd argue that the retards outweigh the non retards

>> No.20117443

>>20117440
Unfortunately, tourists are the majority in most fast boards. /b/ is completely unrecognizable because of facebook boomers shitting up the board even more with american politics.

>> No.20117450

>>20117443
I hear you but I assume you meant /pol/, because modern /b/ is literally just pornography

>> No.20117451

>>20117281

I honestly cannot even fathom the stupidity of people who believe in human equality. Like do you actually believe that every society in human history beyond the caveman/nigger level was a hierarchy purely because of the moral failings of the powerful?

>> No.20117452

/leftypol/trannies have no life, they're here all day.

>> No.20117458

>>20117450
>I hear you but I assume you meant /pol/
Biden vs Trump threads.

>> No.20117460

>>20117451
Every human being is equal under our Creator, God. That doesn't mean we all have equivalent aptitude, ability or levels of awareness. However, yes, every faggot that's ever sat in a throne of any kind, is indeed just a morally inept faggot and they always ruin everything, because they think they are God. That's the only reason why. But it's just as much a moral failing on everyone else's part that they agree with them about that every time.

>> No.20117465

>>20117451
Your ancestors were probably slaves or peasants

>> No.20117467

>>20117465
Ok? So what? How does that prove him wrong?

>> No.20117473

>>20117451
>people who believe
I can. Belief is a powerful motivator and is fundamentally belief in something which is not evidently real, if it were not then it would not be belief. Communists and the like don't believe in equality as a fact, they believe in it as an idea. Nature is necessarily opposed to idea. Things that exist in an infinitely conditioned world will continue to be infinitely unequal for eternity, so long as they are conditioned. Wisdom is discovering the identity of nature and idea or ideality, the conditioned and the unconditioned.

>> No.20117476

>>20117465

How does that prove that human equality is possible or desirable? If anything it proves my point. My ancestors weren't equal with the lords of yesteryear, in the same way that you and I aren't equal to the lords of today. And if you or I did take over and slaughter the rich, then we would simply have proven ourselves worthy to become the new lords.

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>>20117281
I guess you'll just have to deal

>> No.20117478

>>20117473
Nature inherently is opposed to such an idea?
In one view, nature is a hotbed of inequality and oppression, of strong dominating the weak. No animal is equal and it is proven through rape and murder.
In another view, everything in nature depends on the ecology of everything else in nature to survive, and they all share the same essential spark of Life that allows them to exist as beings; they are perfectly equal. Which view is correct?

Maybe whichever one one sees, no more no less. Why do we see what we see, outside? Depends on what we don't see within.

>> No.20117484

>>20117281
>Don't they know that this site is extremely racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic, anti-feminist
Reminder that the people who think this have been here since 2016 at the earliest. Prior to the influx of migatards after the collapse of r/The_Donald, this place was edgy because we thought it was funny to say things like nigger and kike and hitler did nothing wrong, not because people genuinely believed the shit they were saying. Actual opinions and beliefs were left at the door, but that’s not the case anymore.

It wouldn’t be so bad if /pol/tards would just stay in their containment board, but all they do is shit up the other boards with off-topic spam or derail perfectly good threads with autistic screeching. And not only that, since they are incapable of maintaining any kind of ironic distance, they have been psyopped into believing the most utterly retarded and schizophrenic bullshit, and think if you don’t believe it then you must be a zogged NPC sheeple leftist troon (plus whatever other glowing buzzwords you can think of). I almost pity them desu

>> No.20117488

>>20117452
>hey guise I've been here since 2016!

>> No.20117491

>>20117484
Its a cult like any other. Designed to be one.
But I'd argue it began happening prior to the Donald, stormfags showed up on /pol/ on day one and never left

>> No.20117492

>>20117484
>it was all for da LULZ bro!!
>my plebbit boogeyman is the only one who took it seriously

>> No.20117496

>>20117478
>In one view, nature is a hotbed of inequality and oppression, of strong dominating the weak
Which is not actually what I said, but it's understandable enough and at least partially correct.
>In another view, everything in nature depends on the ecology of everything else in nature to survive,
This is just confirming what I said. Nature is the innately conditioned, and so far as it is conditioned nothing can be equal. Everything is unequal. They do not share anything except conditionings, and none of their conditionings are alike.
>and they all share the same essential spark of Life
Only this does not follow from what you just stated. Redefine "spark of life" to "temporal-material conditionings" and you would be correct. "Spark of life" is sentimental gibberish which doesn't actually mean anything from a sober perspective.

In any case these two statements you've given do not contradict each other. They are both correct and confirm what I just said.

>> No.20117497

>>20117419
Ever had to deal with a 56k modem? Slow to connect, slow to load pages, and if anyone in the house picked up the phone, it would disconnect.

>> No.20117498

>>20117488
>no no no /leftypol/trannies don't raid it's a heckin' lie.

>> No.20117503

I come here because I enjoy it. It's like a day out at the zoo.

>> No.20117504

>>20117492
Sure we had the odd retard, but they've been flooding the place en masse since 2016

>> No.20117507

>>20117484
>/pol/
>containment board
lol

>> No.20117509

>>20117281
>Don't they know that this site is extremely racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic, anti-feminist and basically hates most stuff that leftists/commies stand for?
Everything you just cited has nothing to do with communism. You got psy-oped, kid-cell.

>> No.20117510

>>20117484
I'd disagree with parts of this (it wasn't ironic distance for everyone back then) but the site is definitely different post-2016 compared with how it was before.

>> No.20117511

>>20117478

Everyone keeps casting human inequality in moral terms, when it is simply a fact. It's only the idiocy of liberalism and capitalism which creates the idea that everyone can be anything that they want to be, regardless of their inherited background and personal attributes.

It even ends up creating situations that hurt those lower in the hierarchy, such as when factories close down and the workers are urged to become programmers or businessmen.

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>>20117498
leftypol is just a chud dogwhistle, it wasn't a thing until 2016fags started crying about anything left of Hitler

>> No.20117515

>>20117504
How do you know that they were all ironic? It seems like a headcanon for me.

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>>20117511
Yes but this hierarchy is from nature, groups like the nazis and chuds think man himself can control the hierarchy and thus are doomed to fail

>> No.20117519

>>20117496
I don't think they contradict one another either, but they are different emphases upon the same thing. The wisest view is to hold them both in mind when analyzing reality. Your doom and gloom NOTHING IS EQUAL WAHH HUMANS ARE SO STUPID WAHH THEY SHOULD ALL BE SLAVES TO THEIR BETTERS, isn't giving equal weight to both perspectives, and is "sentimental gibberish" of the highest order. Don't menstruate all over the thread and then have the audacity to call it wisdom, it's embarrassing

>> No.20117521

>>20117514
Oh, so you ARE a /leftypol/tranny. How do you subhumans even function in life? Crying about bourgeoisie all day in your over-protected shithole? Embarrassing.

>> No.20117523

>>20117515
I never said that, bucko

>> No.20117527

Because I came here back in 2012 because I saw people discussing memes from it and decided to check it out
Not really sure what your problem is

>> No.20117528

>>20117281
None of those things have to do with leftism; that’s liberalism.
(inb4) yeah most selfdescribed leftists might still care about those things, but fuckem

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>>20117521
No, just been here longer than 2016 and it tears you up inside, I know. Just because we tolerate your type doesn't mean we accept you

>> No.20117531

>>20117509
He did say the private ownership and the age of consent, dumbass.

>> No.20117537

>>20117492
>>20117510
Whether or not people believed it was irrelevant - the point was that anons did it because they thought it was funny. Doesn’t matter what you actually unironically thought in real life, because this isn’t real life and it never has been. The people who formed actual ideological frameworks from internet subcultures and treated these communities as though they were real are clinically mentally insane, there’s no going back once you start to let this place influence how you think.

>> No.20117541

>>20117531
>age of consent
Another liberal-moralist spook…

>> No.20117542

>>20117523
Your post implies it, retard.
>>20117530
>posts kym memes
>"I-I've been here longer than you, b-be glad that I tolerate your e-existence"
Pathetic subhuman. Kill yourself.

>> No.20117545

>>20117511
Everyone can become what they want, but who has a fucking clue what they want? Lol. Nobody. They are told from the day they're born by some faggot who hates life and despises Creation what it is that they want. There's big powerful faggots doing that to them in the upper echelons and little miniature Faggots doing it in their own ranks. Slaves wandering around going OH LORDY LORD WE DESERVE IT WE ARE THE INFERIORS BUT NOT ME I SHOULD BE WITH THE KING BUT THE REST OF YOU LOL YOU ARE NOTHING!

Then there are those of us with smirks who know it's all bullshit: everyone has unequal traits and equal value. Everyone and everything can be loved, and in love, awestruck with wonder at life. But they are not because they get told they are nothing and that life is just a little bit of seasoning, spices and Chemical X boiled up in a test tube that came out of nothing instead of a giant divine mystery we are all a part of.

>> No.20117550

>>20117484
Ah, yes, of course, it was just a joke, no one was truly racist back then, they were all lefties who would've supported blm and trans rights nowadays, of course.

>> No.20117551

>>20117541
>>20117528
Cope. All leftists want them to happen.

>> No.20117552

>>20117467
Lmfao
>>20117476
You are so fucking stupid its astounding. Your conception of societal dynamics and things like the "lords" is below that of even a child because they themselves intuitively figure out such "power" and diffusion of equality is dependent on momentum and circumstances much larger than any single "superior" individual.
Your ancestors would spit on you, at least the ones who struggled to pump out the long chain of events that led to your birth and current retarded "theories"

>> No.20117556

>>20117552
>Lmfao
Not an argument. Again, how does that prove him wrong?

>> No.20117558

>>20117552
That's actually a very good point: even for the faggots that rule over us today, the occult is of extreme importance to them precisely BECAUSE they recognize that their power relies upon forces of collective consciousness that are hard to grasp and even harder to steer.

>> No.20117560

>>20117476
>>20117451
>any hierarchy is always a hierarchy of ability
Please tell me you don't actually believe this

>> No.20117562

>>20117503
So you have your highly-intellectual discussion on lreddit?

>> No.20117565

>>20117550
You’re a retard with poor reading comprehension. I’m saying it didn’t matter what people believed one way or another because on 4chan it was all for laughs. Of course there were unironic nazis, just as there were hardcore liberals, lefties, etc.. but my point is that what was “real” has no bearing on what we found funny. I know you want to project your beliefs into a community of like-minded people, but go outside and join a club instead.

>> No.20117573

>>20117556
>not an argument
I wasn't responding to one

>> No.20117579

When someone these days says they're a commie or Corbyn / Sanders / AOC leftist, what they mean is that they fully support mainstream progressive Blair / Clinton / establishment values but they want to seem fashionable or edgy while they do it. So they position themselves slightly ahead of where things are progressing to seem cutting edge and they ask for things that are slightly unrealistic at the current moment.

These people likely come to 4chan for the same reason we do, for the lolz and truth, but, just as 99.9% of redpilled 4channers don't live by 4chan values, these "commies" also don't transfer truths to their political views, which are the typical oversocialised ones but with some edgy window dressing.

>> No.20117582

>>20117334
do you think trannies and leftists are fine with racial and homophobic slurs so long as they're used for edgy humor? The answer is no, you don't know what you're talking about

>> No.20117591

>>20117542
>yeah, but it's easier for me to argue against your point if I make up what you said no I'm not seething....

Yeah you better stop whining and be glad we let you post your bullshit here cuz it's the last mainstream place that let's you do that, for now ;)

>> No.20117592

>>20117573
But you did. You did it with passive-agressive "LOOOOOOOL".

>> No.20117593

>>20117582
Nigga leftists and trannies don't exist in the way you think they do. Those are what we used to call "other people." Well some of us still call them that but you, you went right down the bottomless pit and it's so dark down there it's hard to really see anything so I won't fault you for your blindness. Makes sense that all you can see now are phantoms

>> No.20117594

>>20117591
What a massive projection. Your gaslighting doesn't work here, niggerfaggot. Go do it in some other hobby boards or something.

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>>20117594

>> No.20117597

>>20117579
You do realise that America is not the only country to exist, right? Your political culture is far more extreme and antagonistic than the actual overton window of political opinion in America would suggest, even your so called “leftists” are predominately just liberals with a few extra progressive bells and whistles. Don’t let the specifics of American politics define how you see the left/right divide, because the actual difference is negligible apart from a few key issues.

>> No.20117598

>>20117497
this. I don't know why other oldfags romanticize the stone age of the internet.

>> No.20117599

>>20117593
didn't even finish reading your retarded post

>> No.20117603

Turn off the cuckcomputer and read books
Only use this shit device for production of something

>> No.20117606

>>20117565
The internet in general became more serious after 2015, it wasn't just 4chan and it didn't happen because of electionfaggots. We're still anti-establishment.

>> No.20117608

>>20117599
Oh what's the matter tough guy did I bring out the boo boo feelings? Why you cry like little bitch? I bet I could beat you in a fight just by talking, little bitch would cry

>> No.20117610

>>20117595
He's free btw.

>> No.20117613

>>20117608
I'm pretty sure it's the leftists who hate masculinity and call gymbros nazis.

>> No.20117622

>>20117613
Nigga you all hate masculinity all you do is cry, project things you hate about yourself on to others and then "hate" them for it. And post online about it all day lol MACHO MACHOOO MANNNNN
Face yourself internally and stop being a god damn fucking sobbing wreck of a pussy. If you still see other human beings as "-isms" you've still got THE HEART OF A BITCH

>> No.20117630

>>20117622
>you all hate masculinity
Simply wrong. Only leftists hate it.

>> No.20117639

>>20117630
Lmao. You're too cute. Retarded and an unrelenting coward, but very funny and cute

>> No.20117644

>>20117281
Leftism and communism as it's colloquially understood are the aftershocks of christianity, and therefore retained many of its qualities, such as the aggressive evangelization that they believe will bring about Utopia, and the abrahamic inability to get along with any other ideology besides themselves, though this is probably a general quality of politics and the political sphere than a specific quality of lefty ideology.

>>20117337
Non-economical aspects of lefty politics is what usually spooks people around here (such as the universalism and the ceaseless striving towards globalization and everything being melted down into one indistinct grey mass that it inherited from christianity), not the parts where people go "fuck being exploited by Mr. Shekelberg".

>> No.20117648

>>20117593
>says the nigga word to compensate for insecurities on a Thai sword fighting forum
This man was diddled as a child

>> No.20117655

>>20117639
Leftoids aren't human, buddy.

>> No.20117661
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>Lmao. You're too cute. Retarded and an unrelenting coward, but very funny and cute

>> No.20117663

>>20117655
Keep on proving my point Nancy boy

>> No.20117666

>>20117648
I say nigga because I like hiphop and because it makes me laugh. Thank you for letting me know you've got insecurities though and that if you said nigga that would be why you were saying it

>> No.20117669

>>20117562

No, I have it with actual humans face-to-face

>> No.20117672

>>20117644
Nice. I've made similar points myself before, ironically, atheistic, anti-Christian imperialist leftism is deeply internalized Christian ethic

>> No.20117678

>>20117669
What're you like gay or somethin?

>> No.20117682

>>20117281
good question. I personally thnik that /lit/ is a ok place to get unfiltered oppinions about litriture and get reccomendations. I pearsonally would not think of myself as a fasciest, incel, racist, or waht not. When dumb people, like in this thread, spread their extrem right wing propaganda, then i simply try to ignore it / overread it. But yeah, if anyone has a rec, for a board or forum less right wing and more focused on actuall litriture and not stupid ideoligies, i would appreciate that.

>> No.20117684

I'm a libtard who's been coming here since before trump and before gamergate. I like the format and freedom of discussion. The edgy shock humor got stale after a few months on /b/ and is just mostly annoying now, as are the dominant racist and sexist views. But I still love anonymous discussion without post histories and upvotes, so I'll likely be here forever.

>> No.20117689

>>20117672
Many argue that christianity itself was born (among other things) of the globohomo universalism of imperial rome. Like father, like son, huh.

>> No.20117708

>>20117519
>Your doom and gloom NOTHING IS EQUAL WAHH HUMANS ARE SO STUPID WAHH THEY SHOULD ALL BE SLAVES TO THEIR BETTERS
That's not doom and gloom. That is the pinnacle of optimism. Inequality is not only ideal but beautiful. "All is the same, all is equal" is a pessimistic outlook.

>> No.20117737

>>20117708
The synthesis of them both is the pinnacle of optimism

>> No.20117743

No one cares about your politics. Just don't be a fag and beg the jannies for help when you're getting BTFO'd with facts and logic.

>> No.20117744

>waaah i want my racist safespace
why are /pol/ skitzos so fragile?

>> No.20117751

>>20117744
No one said this though, NIGGER.

>> No.20117755

>>20117751
You don't have to say it

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>>20117751
>the most heinous slur in all history
How could you...!?

>> No.20117766

>>20117281
>Don't they know that this site is extremely racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic, anti-feminist and basically hates most stuff that leftists/commies stand for?
Of course. But 4chan also hates all the opposite things as well. That is the dialectical nature of this site.

>For example, private ownership or the age of consent
See? Exactly the same things that leftists hate!

>> No.20117769

>>20117682

Me too brother. Would love a good lit forum.

>> No.20117771

>>20117737
There is no equality in this world, so the only possible synthesis, as I've already shown, is equality in inequality (as I already said, equality in conditionings), which is a lopsided equivalence. This is a simple convergence of ideality and fact and does not admit of questioning. The logical positivists and atomists are long since refuted, who are the only people on the planet who ever seriously attempted to find equality in nature. My previous posts still apply: Nature is the ideal, there is no disjunction between idea and nature, and therefore there is no possible "synthesis" which implies disjunction, there is only identity (unity) in a sense which is completely removed from the phenomenal perspective, which is the only perspective most people care about, and which you are speaking of right now. That "unity" is actually unity in difference, and is very different to the types of equality considered by atomists, pantheists, and other idiots. It admits of absolute differentiation and gradations of parts according to a principle which is the same as yet transcending the whole.

>> No.20117772

>>20117644
>>20117672
If you’re interested to read about how seemingly atheistic/materialistic ideologies are still trapped within a Christian paradigm, read Straw Dogs by John Gray. One of the chapters provides a really interesting analysis as to why simply running in the opposite direction to Christianity still plays into the eschatological narrative of the saved and the damned. That’s essentially what Marx does with Hegel- rather than moving beyond dialectics he simply approaches the subject bottom-up rather than top-down. That’s why any stubbornly atheistic framework is destined to failure, it doesn’t fully grapple with the reasons why humans inevitably fall into quasi-religious delusions like “the end of history is communism” even without any faith in god whatsoever.

>> No.20117773

>>20117769
>>20117682
How about r/books, or literally any other site about literature on the internet? Cowardly faggots.

>> No.20117775

>>20117771
It was never about equality. If anything, it was about the degenerate piggies making the rest of makind quite too equal - in poverty and enslavement, that is.

>> No.20117777

>>20117766
Anons love private ownership though. And we also used to dox pedos all the time in the past.

>> No.20117781

>>20117751
oh nyo not the heckin bad word...

>> No.20117783

>>20117772
>That’s essentially what Marx does with Hegel- rather than moving beyond dialectics
Why would he?

>That’s why any stubbornly atheistic framework
Which one? The dialectics?

>quasi-religious delusions like “the end of history is communism”
Marx never stated that Communism is the end of history - only the end of economy. Why do you have opinions about authors you never read?

>> No.20117784

>>20117751
lmao but you faggots cry about everything

>> No.20117785

>>20117771
Dude what are you even talking about lol everything is equal because it was all created by something that is bigger than all of it and also encapsulates all of it as a wider whole. Everything is equal in love, but love does not equate to coddling.

>> No.20117786

>>20117743
Aren't marxoids the ones who make threads about marx and other commies and always get BTFO by /lit/chads? The same thing happens in /his/ too.

>> No.20117787

>>20117773
>saying nigger on the internet

brave

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>>20117786
And trumpsters make threads crying about politics like this one

>> No.20117796

>>20117791
>b-b-but what about DRUMPFFF
No one likes that zionist retard. Try harder.

>> No.20117797

>>20117777
>Anons love private ownership though.
Incorrect. Anons hate private ownership, and they hate the lack of private ownership as well. Same with pedos.

This principle is what makes chans really stand out.

>>20117786
>Aren't marxoids the ones who make threads about marx and other commies
Dunno. I'm a marxoid and I never make Marx threads on /lit/ - typically because I can always find a thread going "Read X if you want to see the fat lazy kike prven wrong once and for all!", but those could be created y other marxoids doing the reverse-psychology thing, for all I know - after all, if you want to make 4chan despise a thing, keep posting about how cool it is. You wanna make 4chan embrace a thing, you just gotta keep posting about how much it sucks.

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20117800

I'm a libertarian and I come here because all right wing spaces are either Nazis or Trad Cath/Orthodox hug boxes but leftists hate us as well. I don't usually voice my opinion on politics here though cuz it just devolves into who can double down on the most extreme rhetoric

>> No.20117804

>>20117797
>You wanna make 4chan embrace a thing, you just gotta keep posting about how much it sucks.
This is what marxoids do here. They always suck marx's dick and say that how basedcialism and gommunizm is great and all.

>> No.20117805

>>20117772
Thank you for the recommendation.

Now, this may be a bit spicy (and hard to follow), but I was just recently wondering if national socialism will be seen as some sort of arian heresy 2.0 in the distant future, as in, the archetypical Great Heresy of globohomo which is nevertheless undeniably related to globohomo as its heretical interpretation (somehow turning it on itself and becoming an ultra-protestant interpretation of secularized, post-enlightenment christianity, turning it into secularized judaism for the germans - and what is judaism about if not the sacralized cult of the chosen race and the belief in divine providence and a Utopia reached through proper adherence to laws - just like the great reformers of old sought to return christianity to its early, more judaic forms)

>> No.20117807

>>20117804
>søycialism
Fuck these faggots.

>> No.20117813

>>20117797
>Anons hate private ownership
How come?
>Same with pedos.
I already said that. But commies and leftists love to abolish the age of consent, and we're against it. They want to legalize pedophilia. We don't.

>> No.20117817

>>20117784
Like what? I would certainly get angry if the stuff I love would get degenerated and subverted by the people I hate.

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fucks sake
this fucking thread
if only you shitheads put the same amount of effort into talking about literature this would be a better board

>> No.20117827

>>20117822
Literature is gay

>> No.20117854

>>20117785
>Everything is equal in love
Where does this come from? I have given reasons for my answer, you have none for yours. "Love" comes out of nowhere and is somehow akin to equality. Meanwhile, in my personal experience, "love of the equal" is something foreign. "Love of the unequal" doesn't make much sense to me either. Love is related to beauty and beauty is related to proportion, measure, and distinction. But none of this goes beyond aesthetic experience.
>>20117775
>If anything, it was about the degenerate piggies making the rest of makind quite too equal - in poverty and enslavement, that is.
Birth, growth, prime, decay, death, putrefaction. Which stage are we in or between? All is as it ought to be.

>> No.20117864

>>20117281
marxshitters think that they belong here.

>> No.20117876

>>20117294
Holy based batman - great take

>> No.20117880

>>20117817
literally zero self awareness

>> No.20117887

>>20117813
>How come?
Yes anon, we know that you and the rest of anons totally do pay for your e-books books and LOVE Amazon. You even totally paid for that Piketty that you totally read in order to explain how much of a retard he is. Only genuine leatherbound copies of Evola too.

>and we're against it
...and you totally don't fap to loli either. That is UTTERLY against the 4chan spirit, after a~
>>20117331
Well fuck.

>> No.20117891

>>20117797
You should really stop calling yourself a Marxist, it was a complete dead end from the beginning since Marx was an unsystematic thinker. He didn't become the Darwin of a new science of history. This becomes apparent in late marx. This ambiguity is why there are a hundred different competing systematizations beginning with Engels and proceeding generally from Plekhankov, Liebknecht, the popularization of Lenin, ossification under Stalin, perversion by late socialism & now the final blow: nationalist appropriation in China. The academic side is hardly worth mentioning because it is indistinguishable from philology. The only theoretical developments have been fragmentary. To be a serious communist today (which, ipso facto, is incoherent since there isn't a workers movement, but nonetheless I'll say it) you can't call yourself a Marxist. Instead you should follow Hesiod's advice
>That man is altogether best who considers all things himself and marks what will be better afterwards and at the end; and he, again, is good who listens to a good adviser; but whoever neither thinks for himself nor keeps in mind what another tells him, he is an unprofitable man.

>> No.20117896

>>20117813
Found the liberal feminist

>> No.20117914

>>20117887
I actually do own my books anon, but nice try.
>...and you totally don't fap to loli either. That is UTTERLY against the 4chan spirit, after a~
Lolis=/=real children. We had this distinction in /b/ too. We still have it.
>>20117896
Nope.

>> No.20117926

>>20117891
>He didn't become the Darwin of a new science of history.
He kinda did. Not because Marx is oh so great, but because Darwin had his own truckload of ambiguities . Darwinian theory was not systemIC either at first - trait inheritance was literally an abstraction at the time. That's inevitable for the foundation of any theory growing all the way out of the XIX century.

>This ambiguity is why there are a hundred different competing systematizations
That's discourse bruh. You don't get a thousand schools calling each other retards only if there is nothing left to say on the subject, i.e. when it's a dead field. Which is something you keep trying to label Marxian fields as, probably right before you move on to how they have infiltrated and corrupted EVERYTHING and how you wish they could leave this board and the rest of your precious Western civilization alone.

>To be a serious communist today (which, ipso facto, is incoherent since there isn't a workers movement, but nonetheless I'll say it)
I do feel quite sorry for you burgers.

>That man is altogether best who considers all things himself and marks what will be better afterwards and at the end; and he, again, is good who listens to a good adviser; but whoever neither thinks for himself nor keeps in mind what another tells him, he is an unprofitable man.
No contradictions observed, so..?

>> No.20117937

>>20117914
>Lolis=/=real children
Not for your lawmakers they are not. Now bin that loli pack, citizen.

>> No.20117941

>>20117419
I was 23 in 2003 but not yet using 4chan

>> No.20117959

If you don't think like this >>20117851, you're not a true /lit/izen.

>> No.20117980

>>20117337
>socially right and economically left
Literally the most braindead combination humanly possible, congratulations.

>> No.20118030

>>20117959
holy smokes he needs booze