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>> No.20116909

>>20116903
Read lots of poetry by the greats, and then try to write a poem in the classic forms (like sonnets) until you are adept. DO NOT start with free verse, that's a rookie mistake.

>> No.20116913

>>20116903
This >>20116909

Read as much as you can first. There's no good writing without reading. But obviously think about what you read and internalise it.

>> No.20117073

Hey let me teach you how to write a poem
Stick right there and you might learn soem
Thing about poems... and how to write 'em
Write in English cause you're not a Chinam
an.
Pound didn't know this!
He was from Idaho but he didn't even notice
He did a bunch of language hocus pocus
So now literally no-one can critique him
And everyone thinks they're really deepened
But he named his poem after a pokemon region
And he didn't even finish
And he isn't even Finnish

>> No.20117078

Poetry seems like such a dead-end endeavor in the modern world. It takes a ridiculous amount of precision, is firmly locked into the one language it's composed in, has almost zero platforms for publication, and the few platforms it does have are almost-certainly gatekept by catty wine aunts who will reject you solely for not being pet minority of the week.

I feel like you would be better-off honing yourself in literally any other artistic medium than poetry.

>> No.20117087

>>20117078
This is also a good advice if OP wants to go pro. Write fiction for money and poetry on the side. It's what people like Bolaño did.

>> No.20117088

concrete imagery ( 5 senses, touch, smell, sight, hearing, taste) and figurative language (metaphors, similes, allegories, etc.)


use what ts elliott called the objegitive corllleative

>Objective correlative is a technique where the character never tells the reader what she is feeling. Instead she evokes that feeling through sensory experiences and description of her environment.

>> No.20117104

>>20117088
she?

>> No.20117108

>>20117088
Not OP but thanks for this.

>> No.20117113

>>20116903
Bad poetry tends to be direct and facile. "I love her" "I miss him". Good poetry is like >>20117088

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20117120

>>20117113
I NEED EXAMPLES

>> No.20117142

>>20117120
look instead of saying "im sad" you say

slept all day
didnt shower
slept all night
have no power

>> No.20117987

>>20117120
Why don't you read Pounds "ABC of reading" which has exactly what you're looking for. Then read Zukofsky's "Test of Poetry"

Also you can write "good" poetry that's highly descriptive like "I sleep" contrary to what the other anons said, the problem is the more you want to rely on techniques like this the better your verse has to be. You can't just rhyme, or use meter, or inversions unless you're actually adept at them, otherwise it'll come across as extremely stilted and shallow. But you can employ those things if you're just flat out good at poetry, and know where a poem could benefit from it.

The best piece of advice I could give is to pick a poem, or collection from a poet you like and read it endlessly, study it and come to your own conclusions. Then go read some literary criticisms about it, and see what people point out. I did this with Pounds Cathay (critical edition) and The Pound Era (invention of China). Pdfs of those available free onlne.