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I think there's actual fundamental value in religion/belief systems, but I think all Abrahamic variants are filled with contradictory backwards garbage. As a white person it seems like my only options are Abrahamic, though, as all these other belief systems I've looked at are filled with people unlike me (and thus are incapable of holding my values.)

What religious texts and belief systems should I look at?

>> No.20099532

Okay, but nazism is very Abrahamic. The idea that there should only be one kind of skin color is basically racial monotheism

>> No.20099533

you have no options
this is by design

>> No.20099555

>>20099533
>muh replacement

No, I'm sorry, you're just a cringy incel

>> No.20099561

>>20099522
Truth is the most important and Christ is truth

>> No.20099577

>>20099555
see? nothing else provokes hostility so efficiently
the human race has been domesticated by their jew handlers to reject even the mere notion of questioning their conditions

>> No.20099582

>>20099561
Based. OP is too attached to identity to surrender. He'll be thinking "is this the white god, or some other god?" too late, doubter

>> No.20099592

>>20099522
>OH NO… IS THAT A MELINATED INDIVIDUAL? AHHHH I’M GOING INSANE!1!! I CAN’T CHANGE MY LARP VALUES FOR GOD’S!!! NOOO
/pol/ was a mistake

>> No.20099595

>>20099522
>as all these other belief systems I've looked at are filled with people unlike me (and thus are incapable of holding my values.)

What if you are not a white person, but a spiritual being temporarily residing within the body of a white human as its vessel?

>> No.20099601

>>20099561
>>20099582
Stop acting like Christianity is based in some Truth rather than just living off sociocultural inertia

>> No.20099606

>>20099595
literally impossible
visit india, afghanistan, china or anywhere in africa
race is as fundamental as your soul, and there is no homogeneity among either
this is why your ancestors (those who traveled the world and saw each race in their natural environment) became racists

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>>20099595
>Don't care about race goyim, you could be reincarnated as a fat black woman

>> No.20099651

>>20099625
>believing that I could be born black somehow makes me unable to reach the conclusion that miscegenation and multi-culturalism is not good
Stop being retarded.

>> No.20099666

>>20099625
This but unironically

>> No.20099687

>>20099577
its probably a tranny. no creature is more life-hating and despicable as someone who feels alien to everyone else by their own volition.

>> No.20099739

>>20099606
>visit india, afghanistan, china or anywhere in africa
>race is as fundamental as your soul, and there is no homogeneity among either
What basis is there to conclude that the differences between races are not entirely attributable to differences in their physical bodies+brains and instead involve differences of the non-physical soul or spirit? Serious question

>> No.20099763

>>20099582
>i am cattle of a subdivision of a cult that worships the north pole of the planet saturn so it is my place to judge your soul

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>>20099522
Have you tried Apolloism?

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>>20099739
If the details of your current existence (race, IQ, disposition, whatever) are totally irrelevant to the state of your soul, then it may be argued that nothing in life is related to your soul, as those countless qualities I just mentioned all influence the things you are capable of doing in life in numerous, impossible-to-quantify ways, including any actions you take that may pertain to your belief system. Therefore unless we accept that souls are just some sort of homogeneous goo that does not reflect the circumstances of your birth (nor anything you do after your birth & prior to your death any way), then it must be agreed that race plays some facet in your soul as well, as race affects those things, and there's simply no denying that races between humans are fundamentally different.

>> No.20099847

>>20099532
Skullshape tho

>> No.20099860

>>20099823
>Therefore unless we accept that souls are just some sort of homogeneous goo that does not reflect the circumstances of your birth (nor anything you do after your birth & prior to your death any way),
Which is entirely possible isn't it? What sort of body you are destined to be born in, and what sort of race and IQ it has could just be based on what your previous physical body and physical brain did in a previous life, while the soul or spirit present in both lives and all lives remains immaculate and unrelated to these changes.

>> No.20099876

>>20099522
Let's look at the oldest indo european religious text there is.
Hymn 11 Book 8 Rig Veda
[08-011] HYMN XI. Agni.
1. THOU Agni, God mid mortal men, art guard of sacred rites, thou art
To be adored at sacrifice.
2 O Mighty Agni, thou must be glorified at our festivals,
Bearing our offerings to the Gods.
3 O Jatavedas Agni, fight and drive our foes afar from us,
Themand their godless enmities.
4 Thou, Jatavedas, seekest not the worship of a hostile man,
However nigh itbe to thee.
5 We sages, mortals as we are, adore the mighty name oof thee,
Immortal Jatavedas' name.
6 Sages, we call the Sage to help, mortals, we call the God to aid:
We call on Agni with our songs.
7 May Vatsa draw- thy mind away even from thy loftiest dwelling-place,
Agni, with song that yearns for thee.
8 Thou art the same in many a place: mid all the people thou art Lord.
In fray and fightt we call on thee.
9 When we are seeking strength we call Agni to help us in the strife,
The giver of rich gifts in war.
10 Ancient, adorablie at sacrifices, Priest from of old, meet for our praise, thou sittest.
Fill full and satisfy thy body, Agni, and win us happiness by offering worship

>> No.20099883

>>20099860
That pretty readily invalidates pretty much every belief system other than nihilism.

>> No.20099911

>>20099625
Makes sense to me

>> No.20099914

>>20099522
The problem with Christianity and most modern religions is the monotheism of one supreme god (or dualism with some seeing the devil being as the great adversary). This goes against the natural concept of struggle and selection and just places all moral authority on some unseen le hecking nice and valid deity. This is also what Nietzsche went against with the book thus spoke Zarathustra. Zarathustra making a dualistic religion which went away from the natural endless struggle aka the will to power and in the book Nietzsche basically makes him admit he was wrong in doing that. This eternal struggle is also the most important of the four life laws (lebensgesetz) in the national socialist world view not just going back to a pre-enlightenment philosophy but going back to even a pre-Plato philosophy. So religion is not really the important thing. It doesn't matter which gods you believe in as long as the law of struggle (kampfgesetz) is adhered to. A biology textbook explaining natural selection is basically all that is needed (which is also why it was called the natural worldview)

>> No.20099924

>>20099876
Point is this is basically the Lord's prayer. Agni is the son of Dyaus (Heaven) and is a priest who prays to the heavenly father. Gee I wonder where the Oriental Jews got this Aryan idea from on its way to Europe.

>> No.20100000

>>20099788
The light of reason is why we are in this fucking mess right now. All daylight religions including Apolloism are transgressive against mother nature. They had their time in the sun, but the way forward is to kill all the day gods and restore the night. Reason itself has become riddled with disease to the point of being an imposture of the night. The amount of commonplace cognitive dissonance and unwarranted fear is proof enough of this eternal night charade. We need to retreat away from "superheros" and go back into our primitive roots to reground our consciousness and rebalance the attention gap between conscious and unconscious planes. When we achieve that contraction of reason and expansion of acceptance we will set the stage for goddess worship to rematerialize. We haven't done goddess worship in ages and we have forgotten how good it is to worship simplicity and sincerity rather than a deranged monkey with a whip and a torch like daylight religious icons.

>> No.20100015

>>20099883
I don't think so, why would you say that?

>> No.20100023

>belief systems
Mu.

>> No.20100036

>>20100000
Wasted

>> No.20100037

>>20100000
Wasted

>goddess worship
Kill yourself you pathetic coombrain

>> No.20100039

>>20100000
Based
>>20100036
>>20100037
Filtered reasoncucks

>> No.20100050

>>20099561
Based and whitepilled, on all accounts.

>> No.20100062

>>20100050
Blackpilled is where its at

>> No.20100064

>>20100037
It's got nothing to do with cooming, idiot. A man is always a slave to nature because he has an animal body. Religious icons inspire man to rise above nature using the light of reason. The icon inspires great change in man. No one would dare designate the desire of ascension as anything other than admirable. But inevitably the degradation of the image over time creates rot. We aren't Athenians nor Israelites nor even colonists. Now man finds himself with two shitty masters: nature and the rotten inertia of a dead religious icon. One is unkillable and the other is merely mortal. When all the mortal refuse is cleansed then you can actually hear the voice of nature once more. Goddess worship will never happen in my lifetime, but I intend to set the stage for it to reflourish once more. Down with Horus, up with Ma'at, eyes forward on Isis.

>> No.20100078

>>20099522
start looking at eastern literature, religion and history. it's true that china is just a civilization and a society posing as a "nation." same with india and vietnam and africa. india is one of the most conquered "states" in history but none of their conquerors have been able to implement their ideology. the persians, the muslims, the british have all had to change their political structures to conform to india's religion because the idea of a unified india is just nonsensical to them. this is why india and china are sprawling shit holes and simultaneously the most insanely rich "countries" on the planet right now. their civilizations are built on rewarding individuals entirely based on their intellect and ability to produce rather than favoring social status. this is also why china, the biggest global influencer today, has completely given up on even trying to conquer india even after the natural barrier of the mountains and the ocean became a non-issue--the idea of a state is so backwards that china instead just imports their ideas with these third world countries rather than throwing money or weapons at them

>> No.20100100

>>20100064
>No one would dare designate the desire of ascension as anything other than admirable
True, but what does that have to do with religion? It should be quite clear to all by now that religion and "worshipping" is organised mass delusion. Instead of pursuing logic and reason you instead want to delude yourself. Ascension is impossible for those who damage their brain on purpose.

>> No.20100112

>>20099522
Nazis and Jews are spiritual deadweight in the world

>> No.20100119

>>20100112
Nazi ideology has nothing to do with spirituality (or religion).

>> No.20100125

>>20099522
You already have a religion. It's your race-obsessed narrow-minded worldview. Until you renounce that you can't move onto other faiths.

>> No.20100162

>>20100078
>their civilizations are built on rewarding individuals entirely based on their intellect and ability to produce rather than favoring social status
wow i knew there would be some terminal brainrot in this thread but "China and India are utopian meritocracies" takes the cake, not only for being an unexpected response, but for being the most wrong

>> No.20100184

>>20099883
It doesn't, some eastern metaphysics (which rejects nihilism) teaches things roughly equivalent to that

>> No.20100352

>>20100119
Depends on if you view mythology as religious.

>> No.20100390

>>20100100
>It should be quite clear to all by now that religion and "worshipping" is organised mass delusion
How so

>> No.20100428

>>20099522
Just accept that all options are cringe in one way or another and deal with it

>> No.20100470

>>20099823
I think races are different but less so in terms of "intelligence", which can easily be improved through experience-dependent plasticity and diet (note, I don't see the point anymore). I think races are different more in dispositions, and I think the disposition of Westerners is fundamentally Faustian and the most destructive of all, hence why they introduced industrialization unto this world and pretty much destroyed human freedom and dignity.

>> No.20100486

>>20099522
What we call "Jews" are the tribe of Judas, they arent the direct descendants of Abraham

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>>20100000

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>>20100000
correct!

>> No.20100695

>>20099532
>racial monotheism
what

>> No.20100793

>>20100486
And the kikes in Ancient Egypt who binded Issac, and scammed the Egyptians ala Joseph. And the kikes who sold Joseph into slavery.

>> No.20100820

>>20100000
holy based

>> No.20100829

>>20099522
Buddhism has it all figured out in my opinion. It's galaxy brained compared to "Be good boy and listen to sky daddy like and go to happy place when die or sky daddy get mad and you go to bad place when die!"

>> No.20100973

>>20099601
t. jew kike

>> No.20101155

>>20100973
>4chan Christian antisemite
Ok larper lmao