/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.20091787]

Glaurung and the Dwarves of Belegost Edition

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[Anonymous No.20091803]

>>20091787
Gene Wolfe sucks

[Anonymous No.20091817]

Books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.20091838]

With Halo h soon having a t.v series, what do you guys expect from it? So far the trailers are alright.
https://youtu.be/5KZ3MKraNKY
https://youtu.be/b4doITNi2RE

>>20091817
Wouldn’t the standard fantasy novels where the hero gets his rewards in the end fit in this scenario? Or is there something else am I missing from the pic?

[Anonymous No.20091845]

>>20091838
>Wouldn’t the standard fantasy novels where the hero gets his rewards in the end fit in this scenario?

Such as? Do novels like that even exist?

[Anonymous No.20091855]

>>20091845
They were bog standard 40 years go.

[Anonymous No.20091864]

>>20091855
I'm not 40 so could you help a guy out and name a few?

[Anonymous No.20091870]

>>20091864
What do you like, you need to stop giving vague questions.

[Anonymous No.20091898]

>>20091870
>you need to stop giving vague questions.

I am just asking for what you alluded to, you said that there were a bunch of books like that picture 40 years ago.

[Anonymous No.20091916]

>>20091898
Not him, but they’re referring to Tolkien and his copy cats. How is this even a question is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.20091943]

>>20091838
Trailers look nice, can't wait and see how they fuck this up badly.

>>20091817
Seconding Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.20091947]

>>20091817
Bakker if she isn't consenting

[Anonymous No.20092054]

What are you guys reading?

>>20091817
Tolkien

[Anonymous No.20092174]

Should I read the Silmarillion if I haven't read LotR or the Hobbit?

[Anonymous No.20092200]

>>20092054
>What are you guys reading?
I've started reading video game novels, going to have to thank the Diablo anon for that. Though I'm not reading Diablo yet, I will after I finish reading the Resident Evil novels. So far, they're okay, average even. Wondering why they stop making them. Feel like they could have kept on making them.

>>20092174
I wouldn't recommend it..

[Anonymous No.20092219]

>>20092200
>Resident Evil novels
They were comfy. Still wondering why, they made Albert Wesker a rapist.

[Anonymous No.20092245]

I need book recommendations for the following topics:
Cradle substitutes
Wizard as a profession
Non-cajun non-modern tribal voodoo fantasy
Tasty literary junkfood

[Anonymous No.20092257]

Also fuck that guy in the last thread who said Mother of Learning is harem trash, he btfos every female in the book and remains a turbovirgin for 20 years

[Anonymous No.20092277]

>>20092174
You can, but it's not really a novel. Generally people turn the Silmarillion to get more of the world they enjoyed reading Tolkien's published works.

[Anonymous No.20092325]

what was that pkd book about the culture that worshipped its own feces as the sauce of its technology? sum fractal thing, they lived in houses built of their own shit.

[Anonymous No.20092375]

>>20092245
>Wizard as a profession
The Powder Mage, if you want something set in Napoleonic era
>Non-cajun non-modern tribal voodoo fantasy
Going to be honest with you, I have no idea what you mean by this.
>Tasty literary junkfood
The Riyria Revelations

[Anonymous No.20092436]

>>20092219
>Albee Wesker a rapist
A lot of the early lore of Resident evil was fucking dark. Something that gets ignored by fandom and the company itself. Like how Umbrella Corporation would capture hookers or runaways and force them to get pregnant with their abomination or zombies. Shit was legit horror on all fronts. Something they drop later on and even on the remakes. What I would give for them to go back to their roots in evil corporations.

[Anonymous No.20092455]

>>20092375
Think Trolls from World of Warcraft

[Anonymous No.20092582]

>>20092455
Powder Mage is honestly a good recommendation for that too. Ka Poel's magic is all about hocus pocus voodoo shit, blood and hair and sacrifices and all. It's not really a focal point in the first trilogy, but it's much more important in the sequel.

[Anonymous No.20092723]

>>20092582
I really hope the author of that series focuses on other parts of the world. That shit has such high potential. And it could also bring in more flintlock fantasy.

[Anonymous No.20092730]

>>20092436
From the RE wiki:
>With methods of ex-utero gestation not yet developed, the Arklay Lab was supplied regularly by a large number of abducted homeless people who could be used in testing.
>The Chimera Project for example required several women be impregnated with a variety of human-arthropod hybrid embryos, with the DNA of the most satisfying animal preserved for future cloning.

[Anonymous No.20092750]

Does it get better than the second apocalypse? The Mongolian dude gives me life.

[Anonymous No.20092777]

>>20092325
sounds more like arthur c clarke

[Anonymous No.20092789]

>>20092730
Yeah, this is the type of shit that’s missing in horror sci-fi. Humans playing god. A shame they remove that lore from the remake.

[Anonymous No.20092867]

>>20092730
>>20092789
Can this shit be written today without raising a fuss? I feel like horror of this type is severely lacking and has some basis of human history. So, it's not like its completely fictional.

[Anonymous No.20092872]

>>20092174
Hobbit first, then LOTR, then the Silmarillion. From there you can eithe read the Unfinished Tales then the History of Middle-Earth books if you care about the lore

[Anonymous No.20092876]

Been wanting to get into Sci-Fi, but never got around to it. But now i have some money to spend, so recommend your favorite books, thanks

[Anonymous No.20092877]

>>20091916
>How is this even a question is beyond me.
Because no one, like he said, actually writes this shit anymore, and because they haven't for nearly half a century. It has just become received wisdom that fantasy is just Tolkien copycats, an unquestioned generic statement. But if you actually look at the books that are being published now, and for a good long while now. The only one actually writing heroic characters is Sanderson, but in oddball uncomfy settings, and the people who still use "generic" fantasy settings all write grimderp, and everything else is just "what if an elf was Trans?" books.

[Anonymous No.20092893]

>>20091817
Heinlein Glory Road

[Anonymous No.20092897]

>>20091803
I agree, kept seeing it posted about, read the first two books in the big series, it was shit.

[Anonymous No.20092904]

>>20092867
Yes, there is plenty that's worse. Just don't expect to get on the times best sellers list unless your protagonist is a gender fluid Arab superhero.

[Anonymous No.20092906]

>>20092876
Start with some of the classics and move on from there.

> Dune, Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Hyperion, Foundation, I Robot, Neuromancer, Childhood's End, Rendezvous with Rama, Flowers for Algernon, Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress

[Anonymous No.20092983]

>>20092906
Not him, but does it matter what order I start first? Or can I just read it however I like?

[Anonymous No.20092996]

What has been the most immersive books you've ever read?
What are some books that didn't feel very believable and you weren't all that immersed in the world but you still enjoyed it? For me it'd be Riftwar Saga

[Anonymous No.20093074]

>>20092983
However you want except for Speakers which is the sequel to Ender's Game but very different.

[Anonymous No.20093124]

>>20093074
I see, thanks. This might occupy me for the next month or so.

[Anonymous No.20093131]

Bakker does this thing where he discovers a new word he likes and overuses it for half a book before dropping it. Currently, as of the latter half of TGO and the start of TUC he loves the word 'mien'.

[Anonymous No.20093178]

>>20093131
I ran the word filter, and "mien" shows up 3 times in TWLW, 12 in TGO, and 8 in TUC. Maybe he just likes the word mien, you know? The section of TGO where the word is most concentrated is Isterebinth chapters in which Sorweel is wearing Amiolas, a magical hemlet that bears the soul of a nonman warrior and allowed Sorweel to distinguish otherwise samey nonman sranc faces, so 'mien' seems like an appropriate word. Isn't it a good thing that a writer picks a stylistic choice he likes and sticks with it? Bakker could've gone to thesaurus and dumped 50 synonyms for 'expression' on you.

[Anonymous No.20093222]

>read 100-200 pages of AGOT to ASOS daily
>have only read 80 pages of AFFC in 2 days
Feels bad

[Anonymous No.20093522]

>>20092257
Does Mother of Learning go as existential as Groundhog Day with its timeloop stuff or does the fact that he's got an extended loop compared to just a day help him get through it?

[Anonymous No.20093532]

>>20093522
It goes even more existential.

[Anonymous No.20093536]

>>20093131
This happens with a lot of authors, I've noticed. There's one word they just keep using a lot (Sanderson uses "cringed" a lot in early Stormlight for example, instead of just "winced" or something) and it sort of just becomes a thing you start a vague headcount for. I read Iron Prince and the amount of times I saw "[Name], it transpired," was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.20093539]

>>20093532
Neat. I keep meaning to look into it, but I sort of wound up sucked into He Who Fights With Monsters which... I like so far, but that's mostly because it has a solid protagonist. I like how you can explain the reason Jason is so easily acclimated to a dangerous new world is because... Australian.

[Anonymous No.20093555]

>>20093539
>He Who Fights With Monsters
The MC in that is a douche and I hate the authors attempts at crass humour. MoL is better in every way.

[Anonymous No.20093586]

any good books about cavemen?

[Anonymous No.20093604]

>>20093586
The Clan of the Cave Bear and its sequels.

[Anonymous No.20093613]

>>20093604
He said good.

[Anonymous No.20093628]

>>20093613
It's not exactly a genre with a lot of content. Only other I can think of is The Inheritors.

[Anonymous No.20093651]

I just finished The Thousandfold Thought and I gotta say that I am a bit disappointed. I thought the final book in the trilogy would give a bit more closure and a lot of it felt like the content of maybe 200 pages stretched out over the entire book. Not really thrilled to think about reading 4+ books just to reach the conclusion.

[Anonymous No.20093655]

>accidentally posted in the wrong thread
Whoops I'll have to start checking the OP most carefully I guess. Reposting anyway:

>We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
>We ran to the sounds of Thunder.
>We danced among the lightning bolts,
>And tore the world asunder.

The Asha'man were way too based to deserve Sanderson's shitty ending to their plotline.

[Anonymous No.20093663]

>>20092200
I’m the Diablo recommender. I finished Legacy of Blood a few days ago, it was great. Moving on to The Order and then The Sin War trilogy.

[Anonymous No.20093669]

>>20092996
Hyperion was the most immersive for me, fuck I love that book so much.

[Anonymous No.20093680]

>>20092054
>What are you guys reading?
Started Gideon the Ninth this week due to a friend recommending it and the premise being too weird to ignore. Not going to lie, I expected cringe at first but Gideon's attitude and narration is charming and grew on me quickly. I'm enjoying it so far.

[Anonymous No.20093689]

>>20093663
Just wanted to add the book had great pace and all the storylines tied in to a very satisfying ending.

>>20092200
I should check out some resident evil stuff after I finish these.

[Anonymous No.20093714]

I take back what I said about Camouflage by Joe Haldeman. The beginning was very fun, but the middle is mostly dreary, and aside from a few moments it only picks up for a quick conclusion.

[Anonymous No.20093723]

>>20091817
Anything by David Gemmell

[Anonymous No.20093737]

>>20093651
What kind of closure you expected? The march is over, every character landed their arc, there's a few cute twists like Moeghus being unable to do magic, Akka rejects being a cuck

[Anonymous No.20093761]

>>20091838
I haven't seen the trailers but I remember reading somewhere that they changed some characters to be black, made Miranda a scientist instead of a solider and one of the main antagonists will be a human raised by covenant which sounds retarded because the covenant literally kill almost all humans. it's going to be a disaster

[Anonymous No.20093825]

>>20093737
Don't know, maybe it was the execution, but even though all of what you mentioned happened it felt pretty anticlimactic to me. Also, during reading of all three books, I felt like the consult stuff was the most interesting and also the hook for the reader, but at the end of the trilogy, you don't know that much more about all of that, other than what Moenghus and Kellhus talk about at the end. And some of the character arcs weren't really that interesting to be honest. Xinemus was pretty good as a kickstart for Achamian's doubt about Kellhus, Achamian himself was also great and pretty varied, but Proyas turned into a pretty boring character in the end, it would have been more interesting to keep more of the tension between him and Achamian, and Conphas just went full retard. Xerius end felt pretty meaningless, and Conphas just turns into a version of Xerius after becoming emperor.
I don't know, after the first two books this just felt like a letdown.

[Anonymous No.20093861]

>>20091803
Filtered

[Anonymous No.20093872]

>>20092325
SIRS DO NOT REDEEM THE ANSWER SIRS

[Anonymous No.20093989]

>>20091817
2 trillion hours MS paint

[Anonymous No.20094049]

>>20091787
Where should I start with Abercrombie?

[Anonymous No.20094074]

>>20094049
You have two choices:
First Law World #1
Shattered Sea #1 (Young Adult)

[Anonymous No.20094076]

>>20091817
Conan
Cugel the Clever

[Anonymous No.20094098]

>>20092876
The End of Eternity, The Stars My Destination, Dune, Lord of Light, Enders Game, Neuromancer, The Diamond Age, The Time Ships


>>20092906
Don't listen to these Heinlein recs Heinlein is garbage. Otherwise good list.

[Anonymous No.20094109]

>>20094098
What little I know of Stranger in a Strange Land is it's about 50% of a mildly interesting book and then 50% Heinlein basically lecturing you while a sex cult goes on.

[Anonymous No.20094120]

>>20093689
The re2 novelization was aight.
I remember StarCraft had some fun books, Speed of Darkness I remember particularly enjoying.
But Eric Nylund's Halo books are the video game goats.

Suddenly remembering the Baldurs Gate novelization I read that for reasons I will never understood had a random sequence about Ettercaps kidnapping women and impregnating them with spiders and then spiders erupt from them and one of the woman asks the group of heroes to kill her and they do it but and then move and what the fuck was that that shit scarred me for life.

[Anonymous No.20094137]

>>20094109
Sure except the interesting shit is meandering midwit bullshit and the sex cult is so boring. And also homophobic which is pretty funny.
Heinlein is just a bad writer. He sucks.

[Anonymous No.20094141]

>>20094137
Apparently even Heinlein is embarrassed by it, but still.

[Anonymous No.20094180]

>>20094141
If he hadn't written Starship Troopers I wouldn't particularly care about him as an author.

[Anonymous No.20094267]

>>20094074
Are his standalone novels any good? I'm not quite ready to commit to another Epic Series yet

[Anonymous No.20094294]

>>20093989
Hot

[Anonymous No.20094298]

>>20091817
Wizard Knight

[Anonymous No.20094311]

>>20093989
>flesh colored nipples
Is that an elf thing?

[Anonymous No.20094394]

>>20093989
You forgot some white space under the treeline.

[Anonymous No.20094476]

Is Prince of Thorns any good?

[Anonymous No.20094491]

>>20094267
He doesn't have any standalone novels.

[Anonymous No.20094494]

>>20094491
I always find that a little odd for anybody who's traditionally published, because don't most publishers not really want to take on a series from a new author?

[Anonymous No.20094506]

>>20094494
I don't know what you mean. True standalones are the exception by far.

[Anonymous No.20094509]

>>20094506
I meant that I thought it was easier for a publisher to take on a standalone from a new author, because there's less risk. A series sort of locks them in, which is a bigger risk if it fails.

[Anonymous No.20094512]

>>20094506
>>20094494
In summary how basically anything published related works: A few major works subsidize everything else and the publishers hopes they eventually have another hit. This goes for anything. Books, musics, movies, whatever.

[Anonymous No.20094527]

>>20094509
>>20094512
It's a calculated risk and the vast majority of authors fail to "earn out", that is to say, earn more than their advance.
Example:
https://www.blakeatwood.com/the-brutal-truth-about-earning-out/

[Anonymous No.20094532]

>>20094527
Ah, I see. I sort of remember somewhere that it's generally a better idea to try to push a standalone novel as your first one if you're going for traditional publishing. Self-publishing do whatever the fuck you want, but yeah.

[Anonymous No.20094548]

>>20094532
For something literary, sure. Genre is all about series and franchises.

[Anonymous No.20094564]

>>20091787
Any books with a cunning power hungry protagonist that'll do anything to get more powerful. Preferably a protagonist that starts at the bottom and isn't respected, but uses magic to gain power. Also, preferably not cultivation because chinese society is nauseating.

[Anonymous No.20094572]

>>20094564
Cradle is like that. It IS cultivation, but the world is more vaguely Chinese-inspired fantasy.

[Anonymous No.20094609]

>>20094120
I think I’ve read a StarCraft book in the past but I can’t remember. A lot of the older Warcraft books are pretty fucking good. Warcraft has such a fleshed out world. War of the Ancients series is great

[Anonymous No.20094613]

>>20094120
The Fall of Reach was so bad ass, I should re read that

[Anonymous No.20094627]

Bi de

[Anonymous No.20094651]

>>20093989
I wonder why the orc is brown.....

And an elf is the same colour as a human...

[Anonymous No.20094655]

>>20094651
orcs are the blacks of fantasy

[Anonymous No.20094660]

>>20094655
I knew you would say that, polely.

[Anonymous No.20094661]

>>20094655
No they are the barbaric germans, check your facts.

[Anonymous No.20094664]

>>20094564
Warlock in the Magus World. It IS a cultivation story, but in an at least obstendible western fantasy setting.

[Anonymous No.20094681]

>>20094664
Also part of the reason I didn't ask for cultivation is because of the enlightened murdermonster mcs. They're so boring because they literally do not have any emotions so they invalidate any story line that includes other people. God its so fucking boring reading about these retards, no soul.

[Anonymous No.20094694]

>>20094681
In that case I can't think of anything.

I do think you might enjoy Warlock in the Magus World, anyway, though. So if you're really starved for reading material you should check it out.

[Anonymous No.20094703]

>>20094694
Oh well I guess ill try, it can't hurt can it?

[Anonymous No.20094706]

>>20094703
You can find it on wuxiaworld

[Anonymous No.20094721]

>>20094681
>>20094564
The Rage of Dragons

[Anonymous No.20094733]

Earwa...home

[Anonymous No.20094765]

>>20094733
>mountains form a convenient barrier around the Bad Guys' fortress
it's even perfectly circular lmfao

[Anonymous No.20094796]

>>20094733
It's wannabe-T*lkien to the point of parody.

[Anonymous No.20094832]

>>20092245
>Cradle substitutes
Like Changelings? Try The Broken Sword, Poul Anderson

[Anonymous No.20094834]

>>20094832
I think he meant substitutes for the series Cradle.

[Anonymous No.20094837]

Guy Gavriel Kay is the best living fantasy writer

[Anonymous No.20094841]

>>20094834
Oh haha.

[Anonymous No.20094849]

>>20094841
Not a terrible topic to look into, though, on a broader level. Somebody raised in a different group than they were born into because they were stolen from their actual parents can be a decent protagonist.

[Anonymous No.20094893]

>>20094849
I think as a rule people like protags who are not only 'different' but have those differences shown to be a positive thing, as part of the fantasy that what makes you unique is inherent and special. Often seen in 'fish out of water' scenarios - which can be the protags whole life if raised by another race or culture.

[Anonymous No.20094906]

>>20094765
>it's even perfectly circular lmfao
As it tends to be the case with impact craters?

[Anonymous No.20094907]

>>20094893
True enough. Unless it's a specific point of the story that the protagonist is a boring nobody, stories are usually about the exceptional. Even if they're only exceptional in some minor, key way.

[Anonymous No.20094943]

>>20094733
Is it just me, or is this Europe?

[Anonymous No.20094947]

>>20094120
>>20094613
The Eric Nylund Halo books, Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx, are really good as well as that short story he wrote about Admiral Cole. Shadow of Intent and Contact: Harvest by Joe Staten, who was the lead writer on the Halo games, are also pretty good. The rest of the books are mediocre and the quality really declines in the 343 era of Halo which is a shame because there is a lot of potential that got wasted.

[Anonymous No.20094950]

>>20094943
It is clearly a map of Scandinavia and Finland that Bakker used the Warp Tool on

[Anonymous No.20094977]

>>20091817
A Princess of Mars

[Anonymous No.20095202]

>>20091787
Give me ONE reason why I should read Malazan

[Anonymous No.20095207]

>>20091803
agreed. read books one and two of botns, didn't see what the fuss is about. truly nothing special. Probably won't read 3 and 4

[Anonymous No.20095211]

>>20094977
based recommendation.

[Anonymous No.20095252]

>>20095202
The second book where you follow the desperate journey of an army being pursued across the desert was kino and almost worth reading it for that alone, however I think I can say that the whole 10 books are kind of over rated overall

[Anonymous No.20095274]

>>20095252
How does it compare to LOTR and ASOIAF?

[Anonymous No.20095288]

>>20095274
its a bit too convoluted desu, also lots of characters overall, you basically get a new cast every book for the first few books

[Anonymous No.20095319]

>>20095202
>>20095274
Malazan is bad. The only good book is the first one. It is a giant waste of time and some of the worst stuff you’ll ever read, especially later in the series. The first one is great, the two after that are good and book four is good too simply because of Karsa Orlong being introduced. It shouldn’t be compared to LOTR. You also wouldn’t compare a pile of dogshit on the ground to a nice car or something. ASOIF is far superior.

[Anonymous No.20095326]

>>20091817
Raymond E. Feist, the Riftwar saga. (your pic related would be Tomas, and that would be the elf queen)

[Anonymous No.20095331]

Which fantasy series would make the most kino video game adaptation? I’m thinking BotNS or a really nice take on the Silmarillion.

[Anonymous No.20095334]

>>20095288
>>20095319
I see, maybe I’ll read it when I’ve read everything else on my list

[Anonymous No.20095336]

Why do I feel like 80% of fantasy is female protagonists?

[Anonymous No.20095338]

>>20095326
so what's the reading order for Riftwar Cycle? Do you just follow the publication order or do you read them in the order of the respective series?

[Anonymous No.20095339]

>>20095336
You're not reading that much, then.

[Anonymous No.20095345]

>>20095331
It entirely depends on who develops them and how well they did based on prior examples. Clearly The Witcher games have done much better than the Game of Thrones games.

[Anonymous No.20095350]

>>20095336
Because you're only reading current year fantasy.

[Anonymous No.20095386]

Here's a Gene Wolf Interview.

https://www.depauw.edu/sfs/interviews/wolfe46interview.htm

[Anonymous No.20095390]

Thoughts on Discworld? Is Pratchett /lit/-approved? I never see him mentioned here so I'm guessing not. I was gifted Mort by a friend and I've been enjoying it a fair bit.

[Anonymous No.20095399]

>>20095390
Why do anons, such as yourself, who only look at threads once every few months at most and never read then say "I never see.."

[Anonymous No.20095401]

>>20095331
Powder Mage series would be interesting

[Anonymous No.20095417]

>>20095399
Sorry for being such a worthless faggot fuck. I give you permission to kill me.

[Anonymous No.20095427]

>>20095390
>I never see him mentioned here so I'm guessing not.
He's got the same problem as Hellboy does over on /co/.
It's fantastic, and everyone should read it, and everyone that does agrees, so there's not much discussion that can be had that isn't a circlejerk.

[Anonymous No.20095441]

>>20095390
It's been over 20 years that I read Mort, but I liked it a lot. The books dealing with Death are great. One of these days I have to read them in English.

[Anonymous No.20095448]

>>20095390
Pratchett is so ubiquitously liked that nobody really discusses him. The only people who dislike him are the deranged people who hate that he has women in his books or stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.20095454]

>>20092174
Hobbit, LOTR, Silmarillion, LOTR again now that you have all the backstory.

[Anonymous No.20095490]

I'm almost through Wheel of Time, and right now I'm impressed with just how fucking THIRSTY Berelain is after she meets Galad.
I mean goddamn I thought Faile was horny, drooling herself watching Perrin work a forge, but Berelain describing Galad as "like something out of the Age of Legends left behind for us to worship" blows Faile out of the water.

[Anonymous No.20095495]

>>20095490
Honestly I love when a character just gets openly fucking thirsty for another. Sanderson surprisingly did it with Mistborn era 2, Steris gets REALLY into Wax flexing with his powers.

[Anonymous No.20095500]

Is there anyone who DIDNT charge through the breach on Pyke?

[Anonymous No.20095502]

>>20095331
Cosmere (scadriel or roshar) would be great vidya, even other planets would be nice but none have the same transferability as those two

[Anonymous No.20095509]

>>20095490
I really liked that Galad was the same way. Not only because it was fun to see him finally tripped out of his stoicism but also because you could practically smell the musk off the pages when the two of them were interacting. Their mutual attraction was really well done.

[Anonymous No.20095519]

>>20095502
Mistborn feels like you could do an immersive sim pretty easily, and Stormlight's alright very "game-y" in its system.

[Anonymous No.20095530]

>>20095448
which of Pratchett's books are worth reading and in what order?

[Anonymous No.20095552]

>>20095530
Personally I'd say all of Discworld is at least worth reading, even if the quality isn't ALWAYS fantastic. The first two books in particular are very different from the rest, reading more like a straight parody of fantasy as opposed to a fantastical satire on reality with some genuine storytelling, but they're still good. Mort is generally considered the point at which the series finds its legs, though.
Non-Discworld stuff is generally solid, too, Good Omens is fun. I remember reading the Nome Trilogy when I was younger, though that is probably a little too YA/children's literature for most. Dunno much of his sci-fi stuff, admittedly.

[Anonymous No.20095554]

>>20095530
All of them, in publishing order as far as Discworld goes, and don't forget the Nome Trilogy and Good Omens.
You can find the publishing order in the front of any Discworld book, usually in reverse order.
Start from The Color Of Magic, go to The Light Fantastic, and continue in that direction.

[Anonymous No.20095557]

>>20095552
>>20095554
thanks, will definitely add it to my reading list

[Anonymous No.20095562]

>>20095554
Some people do recommend just reading a single series of Discworld, but I do find that sort of leaves the series feeling a bit disjointed, especially as the series start to twist together. Stuff that happened in the last Moist book might affect the next Watch book, etc, and if you just read the Watch it feels off.

[Anonymous No.20095569]

>>20095562
>Some people do recommend just reading a single series of Discworld
And some people recommend urethral sounding, that still doesn't make their opinions valid.

[Anonymous No.20095611]

>>20095569
Where do you stand on people skipping the first two? I'm not really for it, but I can see why people suggest it.

[Anonymous No.20095617]

>>20095502
>>20095519
Too bad Mistborn: Birthright was vaporware and the Stormlight stuff will be forever in development hell.

[Anonymous No.20095629]

>>20095617
He is writing FOR a video game, but it's not an adaptation. Be interesting to see how his writing works for a game, because his writing is already pretty video game-y in a sense.

[Anonymous No.20095656]

>>20095611
It's a stupid call, even if they're not as good as the rest and some details like the Patrician are retconned.

[Anonymous No.20095662]

>>20095656
It's a little jarring seeing Death in Colour of Magic and going "...Oh yeah, he was just kind of an evil shit here for some reason".

[Anonymous No.20095664]

On the note of Mistborn, I just finished the first trilogy. With the first book I wasn't really into any of the characters aside from Kelsier and the second book felt like a slog. I have no idea why but I really did enjoy the third book and liked how it ended off and for some reason beyond my comprehension, I became attached to some of the characters despite how lacklustre most were in the previous books. I really liked the ending, particularly Elend and Vin's death - I found some odd beauty in it.
Overall, I enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.20095676]

>>20095664
I sort of felt the opposite, I cared less and less about so many characters that the books focused on by book 3. Only Vin, Kelsier, Ten-Soon and sort of Sazed really had me invested. I just... I just don't like Elend. He's so nothing. I like the death scene well enough.
Era 2 feels much stronger on the character front for me. Every one of the main cast is pretty solid, especially Wayne.

[Anonymous No.20095678]

What's a sci-fi book for that 'damn, the universe is so fucking huge' feel?

[Anonymous No.20095688]

What are your thoughts on Xanth?

[Anonymous No.20095711]

>>20095678
How would that work? If you have something with realistic space travel times it can't be big in scope. If you have something where you can travel billions of light years instantly then it won't feel big.

[Anonymous No.20095712]

>>20095678
three body

[Anonymous No.20095713]

>>20095676
>Era 2 feels much stronger on the character front for me
Looking forward to it, I have a feeling I'll like the setting more than Era 1. I know Sanderson gets better at writing characters, at this point I've read WoK and WoR before realising I should probably read his other stuff before continuing and for the most part, I liked a lot of the characters in Stormlight.

[Anonymous No.20095715]

>>20095711
Could have semi-realistic space travel with cryosleep during travel or some such.

[Anonymous No.20095718]

>>20095713
It was rough for me reading Cosmere in the order I did (WoK > WoR > Elantris > Warbreaker > All of Mistborn > Short Stories > Rest of the Stormlight) because I started with some of his better stuff and then went back to Elantris which is, like... There's one good character and it's Hrathen.

[Anonymous No.20095730]

>>20095688
>using florida as a fantasy setting
very based

[Anonymous No.20095740]

Someone said this was an Elric reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orAadddYqwo&ab_channel=PulseGoGamer
I just thought of the swedish summer festival but I know Elric goes on adventures all around the world in the later books. Is something like this in the series somewhere?

[Anonymous No.20095745]

>>20095740
On thinking more about it was that person maybe thinking of the whole city of dreams thing? It's been a quite a while since I read it.

[Anonymous No.20095748]

>>20095688
Is Xanth meant to be Florida in the past or the future?

[Anonymous No.20095889]

>>20094947
Is The Flood any good?

[Anonymous No.20095899]

>>20095889
I guess it's pretty average for a video game adaptation but you are unironically better off just playing Halo CE

[Anonymous No.20095905]

>>20095688
I've only read Yon Ill Wind but laughed a lot. Couldn't find any more books after that. Maybe now with everything being digital I should have another look.

[Anonymous No.20095914]

>>20095740
It just hit me that Elden Ring released before The Winds of Winter did. There really is no hope, is there?

[Anonymous No.20095926]

>>20095899
Thanks I’m going to check out some of the others mentioned before

[Anonymous No.20095935]

>>20094947
>>20095926
I forgot another one of Nylund's Halo books which is First Strike which details how they get home after Halo CE, also pretty well written and takes place before Ghosts of Onyx

[Anonymous No.20095966]

>>20091803
Then who is the best scifi/fantasy author?

[Anonymous No.20095987]

>>20095966
best is subjective. there are good authors in every genre but very few write both sci-fi and fantasy.

[Anonymous No.20095999]

>>20094564
>Any books with a cunning power hungry protagonist that'll do anything to get more powerful. Preferably a protagonist that starts at the bottom and isn't respected, but uses magic to gain power. Also, preferably not cultivation because chinese society is nauseating.
Priest of Bones is this but I don't love it
The 2nd set of Imager books (starting with Scholar) might be a good shout. The protag starts on friendly terms with the ruler but without station and rises up throughout the books before becoming the primary reason for a continent unifying conquest in the latter part of the series.
He has powerful magic but it's all pretty slight within eyesight only stuff and although they're never shown as evil or conniving they are utterly ruthless about removing obstacles to their goals.
(Also I know you don't want cultivation but Divine Throne of Primordial Blood is a fantastic example of it being done there, the first volume is the best thing I've read in the genre but unfortunately the "cheat" scaling got a bit too much for me after that)

[Anonymous No.20096010]

>>20095987
>there are good authors in every genre
No. All good authors avoid genre fiction.

[Anonymous No.20096027]

>>20096010
t. pseud

[Anonymous No.20096051]

>>20096010
>comes into a general dedicated to a thing he dislikes
>"I dislike thing"
>refuses to elaborate, or dilate
>gobbles a bag of black dicks

[Anonymous No.20096091]

>>20095530
Read in publication order, not in that goddamn chart order.

[Anonymous No.20096106]

>>20095748
Present

[Anonymous No.20096133]

Watchers from Night Land are the most terrifying lovecraftian niggas in fiction

[Anonymous No.20096137]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRM will never finish the series, he’s a nihilistic atheist and nothing would bring him greater joy than giving a huge middle finger to every fan of his books when he dies

[Anonymous No.20096219]

>>20095390
Pratchett's good fun it's cringe when people take him seriously or call him a good writer.
The death books are easily the best.
Personally I like the first two the best when it was still just dumb fun. Dude got way too serious about the setting.

[Anonymous No.20096221]

>>20096010
>All good authors avoid genre fiction.
Explain Tolkein.

[Anonymous No.20096223]

>>20095688
First one was wild, second one was great (Source of Magic), after that they start getting dumber and duller with each instalment.

[Anonymous No.20096225]

>>20096133
Hodgson?

[Anonymous No.20096293]

>>20096137
Be honest, anon. You wouldn't finish the series either if you were as old and as rich as Gurm. Who would want to waste his final years with an awful chore just out of a misplaced sense of obligation? Better to die on a sunny beach than behind a stuffy desk.

[Anonymous No.20096323]

>>20095740
Kinda
>Next night and for seven nights in all the Wild Dance of Melnibone would fill the streets. Potions and petty spells would ensure that no one slept, for sleep was forbidden to any Melnibonean, old or young, while a dead emperor was mourned. Naked, the Dragon Princes would prowl the city, taking any young woman they found and filling her with their seed for it was traditional that if an emperor died then the nobles of Melnibone must create as many children of aristocratic blood as was possible. Music-slaves would howl from the top of every tower. Other slaves would be slain and some eaten. It was a dreadful dance, the Dance of Misery, and it took as many lives as it created.

[Anonymous No.20096334]

>>20096293
Ideally, the writers would enjoy the writing of their own stories.

Gurm the worm's problem is he's become aware that his own world is boring and played out. It turns out if your only narrative trick is to kill off or inflict nihilistic misery on your protagonists, your epic fantasy series might not have legs. ASOIAF is a profoundly soulless text and I hate it.

[Anonymous No.20096396]

>>20094049
Don't waste your time.

[Anonymous No.20096421]

>>20094267

I started with Best Served Cold and went back to the trilogy.

The Heroes is fantastic

[Anonymous No.20096476]

>>20096137
>>20096293
I'm sure whatever writer block he had waa amplified whenever the show caught up and he witnessed everyone shitting on plot points which may or may not have come from him
not that it excuses him but it's not like i don't understand him if that were the case

[Anonymous No.20096489]

>>20095390
Pratchett is reddit-core garbage

[Anonymous No.20096505]

Now over $31,000,000, you pathetic losers

[Anonymous No.20096521]

>>20096505

[Anonymous No.20096595]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.20096596]

>>20096595
About what?

[Anonymous No.20096603]

>>20096596
Your mother

[Anonymous No.20096606]

How do I give devices/gadgets names that don't sound corny or contrived?
What would a post earth people call their smart phones?
Is it too cliche to have it be a small gadget you wear that goes in front of your eye?

[Anonymous No.20096611]

Recommendations for good audiobooks? I'm doing a roadtrip soon and would like some entertaining fantasy to listen to.

[Anonymous No.20096614]

Rereading vorkosigan
30 pages into the first miles book he gets horny for a bare foot.
Bujold is the best ever

[Anonymous No.20096617]

>>20092876
Read Iain M. Banks' Culture novels. Start with The Player of Games.

[Anonymous No.20096620]

>>20096606
>post earth people call their smart phones?
smart phones

[Anonymous No.20096623]

>>20096620
Or just phones.

[Anonymous No.20096628]

>>20096623
>>20096620
But even in our lifetimes they've gone from cellular telephones to cell phones to flip phones to smart phones. Mix in tablets and other shit and people just say "devices". As the technology evolves it's going to keep changing and I'm trying to think of what it will be called when it does.

[Anonymous No.20096630]

>>20096623
Yeah, and they were always called phones. Why changed this up other than being autistic?

[Anonymous No.20096633]

>>20096628
Just call it a mobile. Or name it after whatever bullshit sci-fi tech you're using.

[Anonymous No.20096644]

>>20096630
>>20096633
Fine! I'm just calling it a phone.

[Anonymous No.20096647]

>>20096644
It’s like you make things harder on yourself for no reason.

[Anonymous No.20096649]

>>20095448
>everyone likes reddit humor

[Anonymous No.20096650]

>>20096644
you could call it a terminal? that's what a phone-like device is called in the player of games

[Anonymous No.20096653]

>>20096649
How is he reddit humor when he wrote that before reddit?

[Anonymous No.20096664]

>>20096653
Ignore him. He doesn’t read at all.

[Anonymous No.20096665]

>>20096653
His humor is the same sort redditors enjoy. I'm not saying he got it from reddit. Retard.

[Anonymous No.20096677]

>>20096611
senlin ascends

[Anonymous No.20096681]

>>20096505
can he finally afford to go to the gym?

[Anonymous No.20096685]

>>20096665
what's funny about when mitwits use arguments like this is that most of the people on 4ch also go to reddit. there's little to no difference between the userbases. if they want to see a retard just look in a mirror.

[Anonymous No.20096690]

>mitwits

[Anonymous No.20096692]

>>20096334
Martin doesn't consider his world boring at all. After all he does keep working on it. He's directly involved with the prequel show on HBO, he wants to write more Dunk and Egg, he's in the process of writing a continuation of his history account about the Targaryens, and so on. By all appearances Martin really likes dicking around with Westeros. But that's exactly the problem. He has fun using Westeros as his personal little sandbox where he can build yet another tower of background lore, but he recoills working on the main story. Because that one is protracted and complicated and difficult to get right and a great many people have high expectations for it. It's not fun to work on the main story anymore, so he doesn't do it.

[Anonymous No.20096702]

>>20096334
>heckin nihilism!1
Imagine being this retarded

[Anonymous No.20096729]

>>20096334
>It turns out if your only narrative trick is to kill off or inflict nihilistic misery
Never read the books have you?

[Anonymous No.20096750]

>>20096729
It’s like they just watch the show and that’s it.

[Anonymous No.20096793]

>>20096665
>His humor is the same sort redditors enjoy
Christ, how much more retarded things can you say?

[Anonymous No.20096819]

>>20096221
He can’t. He’s a seething pseud who will never write anything of worth.

[Anonymous No.20096862]

>>20095688
Piers Anythony is literal and figurative Florida man

[Anonymous No.20096864]

>>20096221
Tolkien didn't write genre fiction. He just accidentally created the template for all the hacks who came after him and turned it into a genre.

[Anonymous No.20096884]

>>20096864
>Tolkien didn't write genre fiction.
Nice cope. Tolkien is a genre fiction author.

[Anonymous No.20096885]

>>20096864
What the fuck are you on about? Lord of the Rings and it’s subsequent works are genre fiction. Christ, I know /lit/ is retarded, but I didn’t expect to this degree.

[Anonymous No.20096903]

>>20096864
Wow. You are quite literally retarded.

[Anonymous No.20096905]

>>20096334
Incredinly brainless take. GRRMs novels are not nihilistic, he himself has stressed this. They're about the struggle to upbold virtues in a world where might is, well, mighty. Just like ours. And just like ours the virtues prevail by being held by smart people and their ability to bind people together. The Bolton's will fail because they don't command the love of the North. Tywin died just as he thought he'd gained absolute power because everyone, even his own children, hated him. And on and on.
The whole books is about morals colliding with reality.
God those books are good and I'm so sad we'll never get an ending to conclusively rub in the face of morons like you.

[Anonymous No.20096906]

>>20095678
Baxter's Xeelee Sequence

[Anonymous No.20096911]

>>20096644
Call it a device. Everyone has their device. The word isn't much used outside of this context because everything is so wired up in the future devices are so ubiquitous that no one really calls them such. But the words stick around to refer to everyone's do-everyrhing-compjter they keep on them.

You could shorten it to vice. "Can I see your vice for a second." That's interesting but maybe too cheeky.

[Anonymous No.20096916]

>>20096864
Type 'pre-tolkien fantasy' into Google, read a couple of those, and see how much Tolkien actually invented. Gay fake languages.That's it.

[Anonymous No.20096918]

>>20096864
Honestly, it would have been easier to just admit you were wrong, instead, you decide to prove everyone how much of an idiot you are.

[Anonymous No.20096926]

>>20096916
>Gay fake languages
Tolkien was a legitimate Linguist, the languages he uses in his stories aren't fake.

[Anonymous No.20096933]

>>20096911
Why? Just call it a phone. Stop trying to re-invent the wheel.

[Anonymous No.20096963]

>>20096864
>Tolkien didn't write genre fiction.
I actually stop reading. Actually stop being a pseud on /lit/. Not only is it sad, but it’s genuinely pathetic.

[Anonymous No.20096970]

So I used my telecom* to talk to him.

*telepathic communication

[Anonymous No.20096971]

>>20096926
No they're fake. They're incomplete, by his own admission.

[Anonymous No.20096974]

>>20096971
>They're incomplete, by his own admission.
Incomplete is not the same as fake. Anon, please stop, this is getting sad.

[Anonymous No.20096976]

Pick up the quantang*, you've got an intergalactic call!

*quantum entanglement phone

[Anonymous No.20096981]

>mfw podrick shows up again
Based

[Anonymous No.20096985]

>>20096981
Glad, you’re enjoying game of thrones, anon.

[Anonymous No.20096990]

>>20096974
Yes they're fake. They're not languages that can actually be used for real world day to day speaking.

[Anonymous No.20096996]

>>20096595
I judge books by their covers. It looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.20096997]

>>20096990
>They're not languages that can actually be used for real world day to day speaking.
Ah, like the Latin language. Or the Aramaic. Or the several extinct native American languages. They're all fake.

[Anonymous No.20097004]

>>20096997
Now you're just being purposely obtuse anon. Those languages were actually USED once upon a time.

[Anonymous No.20097006]

>>20096981
Who’s your favorite character by far?

[Anonymous No.20097007]

>>20097004
Not by your definition, they aren't used for real world day to day speaking

[Anonymous No.20097016]

>>20097007
Well I change my "definition".

[Anonymous No.20097017]

>>20096505
I mean, I'm never going to read sandersnoyshit, but it's damn impressive that writers can still pull this much today. All hail the 20-something prime color hair colored lesbians I suppose, or whoever reads Sanderson, and their disposable income.

[Anonymous No.20097024]

>>20096990
>>20097016
You might be the most retarded user on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.20097033]

>>20097024
Please continue seething over your fantasy "languages". Even Tolkien would think you're a weird cultist for being so adamant on them being "real".

[Anonymous No.20097049]

This kills the Tolkienkek

>uhh how do I name my dorfs? Herp, Derp, Burp, Sneed, Feed, Seed etc
brilliant

[Anonymous No.20097051]

>>20097033
This coming from the guy who doesn’t believe Tolkien is a genre fiction writer.

[Anonymous No.20097054]

>>20097049
Yeah, keep seething, anon. How adult of you.

[Anonymous No.20097071]

>>20097049
How about you do something better?

[Anonymous No.20097083]

>>20096981
Brienne's chapters were always my favorite.

[Anonymous No.20097102]

>>20096970
>>20096976
Just saying phone is enough. What you’re doing is pretentious as fuck.

[Anonymous No.20097130]

>>20092730
The last time they mention this, was around around 2012, with some manga. That’s it. I don’t think I’m the remake games they even mention this. I will never understand why creators butcher their own lore whenever they can.

[Anonymous No.20097133]

>>20097130
Outside of lore and to show how evil Umbrella is, did it add anything to the game? Because I can understand why they would quietly drop it, first chance they got.

[Anonymous No.20097146]

>>20097133
Yes, it expanded the world and the depths they were willing to go to achieve their goals. I know /sffg/ shits on worldbuilding but having it makes a story/series better.

[Anonymous No.20097156]

>>20097102
Phone
Poisson-Hilbert Onetime Natural Encryption

[Anonymous No.20097158]

>>20097146
I think them making a zombie virus is more than enough. No need to flood the people with more pointless shit. Because at that point it’s just an exposition dump about useless shit nobody cares about but the author or writers.

[Anonymous No.20097162]

>>20097156
That one was kinda funny, so that one gets a pass.

[Anonymous No.20097188]

Whatever happened to the Hound? I know he ain’t dead, but I really don’t he became the grave digger. That’s to obvious for Martin and he doesn’t give an obvious answer to mysteries.

[Anonymous No.20097209]

>>20097188
he's lady stoneheart

[Anonymous No.20097212]

>>20097188
>but I really don’t he became the grave digger.
I thought a lot of fans believe that the Septon's champion will be Sandor Clegane? Where did you come up with the grave digger?

[Anonymous No.20097223]

>>20097209
No, that’s Catelyn.

>>20097212
I think it involves a chapter with a church with a septon telling that the hound is dead but in the distance a grave digger with the same limp as him appears.

[Anonymous No.20097238]

>>20097223
>I think it involves a chapter with a church with a septon telling that the hound is dead but in the distance a grave digger with the same limp as him appears.
That's literally the hound. With the Septon covering for him. Sometimes the obvious answer is the correct answer.

[Anonymous No.20097274]

>>20097238
With how GRRM does mystery, I honestly think the grave digger is a red herring to mislead readers and theorist alike.

[Anonymous No.20097289]

>>20097274
>With how GRRM does mystery
His mysteries have always been obvious. Like Jon Snow's parents, they identity of Robert Strong, or how Whoresbane Umber is actually an (illiterate) Umber cousin, pretending to be Whoresbane.

[Anonymous No.20097296]

>>20097289
Obvious compared to what, Sherlock Holmes? (I don't read mysteries at all.) It shits on other fantasy.

[Anonymous No.20097308]

>>20097296
>It shits on other fantasy.
It really doesn't. Martin gives obvious answers.

[Anonymous No.20097328]

>>20097289
>how Whoresbane Umber is actually an (illiterate) Umber cousin, pretending to be Whoresbane.
This is literally the first time I ever heard of this. How do people come up with this shit?

[Anonymous No.20097336]

>>20097328
>How do people come up with this shit?
People have lots of time on their hands to try and figure shit out. I'm pretty sure most of them are better than anything GRRM has plan. My most favorite being Cantuse theory and the battle of ice.

[Anonymous No.20097344]

>>20097336
>My most favorite being Cantuse theory and the battle of ice.
Anon, thank you. I’m just finding this out and this is my type of things I like to see. I never search the fandom due to various of reasons. But if it’s anything like this. I’m willing to take the plunge.

[Anonymous No.20097350]

>>20097344
As far as I can tell, only Cantuse and BryndenBFish have anything to say. But BryndenBFish went dark and deleted everything.

[Anonymous No.20097355]

>>20097350
>have anything to say.
Have anything interesting to say.

[Anonymous No.20097358]

>>20097350
>Cantuse and BryndenBFish
I’ll be looking into them. Also, shame about Brynden. Did he delete all of his theories???

[Anonymous No.20097360]

>>20097358
His Reddit and substack are gone. But his Wordpress is still up. You can look it up.

[Anonymous No.20097363]

>>20097360
Ah, that’s good. Sad that he deleted his social accounts. Wanted to see how views winds of winter and other things.

[Anonymous No.20097369]

>>20097363
Join a forum of ice and fire if that's your thing. It's not all bad and people have serious in-depth discussions about the books.

[Anonymous No.20097395]

>>20097369
I think I will, thanks again. Still surprise that /sffg/ is good for something

[Anonymous No.20097409]

>>20097395
>/sffg/ is good for something
It's currently in a rough patch, but I still have hope. Enjoy your reading, anon.

[Anonymous No.20097426]

>>20097409
>Enjoy your reading, anon.
I will.

[Anonymous No.20097436]

>>20092257
Your first mistake was assuming shitposters ever read to begin with. It’s definitely better to just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.20097449]

>>20095914
You can wait for a few years, anon. Great books take times to publish.

[Anonymous No.20097456]

Fuck you fantasyshitters

[Anonymous No.20097465]

>>20097456
You can always leave. Don’t know why you even come to this general.

[Anonymous No.20097469]

>>20097456
Fuck you too, pseud.

[Anonymous No.20097492]

>>20095889
It’s halo combat evolved but in novel form. With the exception of the Grunt chapters, it’s recommended to just ignore it.

[Anonymous No.20097539]

>>20097492
Honestly, just ignore anything by William C. Dietz.

[Anonymous No.20097553]

>>20097539
Didn’t he also write some sort of mass effect novel that was extremely horrid?

[Anonymous No.20097561]

>>20097553
Mass Effect: Deception. It was such an atrocious book that not even fans could defend it.

[Anonymous No.20097570]

>>20097561
I thought I remember that name. I still remember that cereal killer joke or whatever. How that shit made it pass the editors is beyond my comprehension.

[Anonymous No.20097576]

>>20097570
Bioware does not give to shits about its games. Honestly, the worst video game novels I've read recently.

[Anonymous No.20097586]

Recently read Eden by Stanisław Lem. Really liked the atmosphere and strangess to it all. What does /lit/ think about it? Haven't read anything else by him yet.

[Anonymous No.20097592]

>>20097586
Never heard of him not the book. Care to give more info?

[Anonymous No.20097604]

>>20097586
Read The Man from Mars next.

[Anonymous No.20097611]

>>20097586
With the exception of Russians, most people here don’t read Eastern European authors.

[Anonymous No.20097614]

>>20097592
He was a polish scifi writer best known for Solaris I think. Tarkovskij made a film about Solaris which is a cinematic masterpiece. Eden is about a group of scientist crashing on the planet Eden. The crew sets out to explore the planet and tries to make contact with the local inhabitents. Favourite thing for me was all the theories the crew comes up with to explain all the alien things they see

[Anonymous No.20097616]

>>20096981
Podrick is such a nice character. A nice change of pace with all the backstabbers.

[Anonymous No.20097619]

New thread
>>20097617

[Anonymous No.20097622]

>>20097619
Why?

[Anonymous No.20097647]

>>20097586
It's alright, but not really among his best works - Lem himself stated that he made the social commentary too obtuse.

The crew's naming conventions are a good insight into how Lem uses characters.

>>20097592
Read "The Invincible".

>>20097611
>/sffg/
>not reading Lem
Pathetic desu.

[Anonymous No.20097659]

>Gene Wolfe sucks

[Anonymous No.20097699]

>>20097659
>Gene Wolfe fucks

[Anonymous No.20097709]

So I bought the Mars trilogy and I'm about to start with red mars
Where do I go after I finish it?
I'm completely new to sci-fi

[Anonymous No.20097725]

>>20097709
You'll give up half way through book 2.

[Anonymous No.20097730]

>>20097725
Not very good?

[Anonymous No.20097898]

>>20096981
I prefered his character in the books before the TV show turned him into a dumb bearded hunk

[Anonymous No.20097906]

>>20097709
Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the most boring sci fi authors I’ve ever read. There was one series he did where it was basically just a girl coming of age in a space colony

Super mundane bullshit

[Anonymous No.20097907]

>>20097906
That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, do you remember the name?

[Anonymous No.20097995]

>>20097449
Anon, the fat man publicly doesn't even consider Winds his top priority anymore, which he previously had feigned for years. That was the gist of his latest blogpost. His words:
>The world of Westeros, the world of A SONG OF ICE & FIRE, is my number one priority, and will remain so until the story is told. But Westeros has become bigger than THE WINDS OF WINTER, or even A SONG OF ICE & FIRE.
See the little rhethoric sleight of hand he did there? At this point he's more invested in the "lavish coffee table book" he advertises a few sentences later than in finishing his magnum opus, or even just the sixth volume thereof.

[Anonymous No.20098024]

>>20097907
Just watch some SOL anime if you’re that starved for female attention

[Anonymous No.20098035]

>>20097995
I’m not really sure why people are still so invested in grrm finishing the books after the tv show. It’s not going to be much better than that.

[Anonymous No.20098166]

>>20098035
I wish he would just die already so people could get the fuck over it, the show killed the story when it overtook it and prewrote the shittiest ending, next please.

[Anonymous No.20098174]

>>20098024
Name. Of. Book.

[Anonymous No.20098210]

>>20098035
What's hard to get? Some people liked the story and they believe Martin would wrap it up much more competently if he actually tried. Some people started reading the story in the expectation that Martin would complete it in due time and feel that Martin owes them.

And interestingly enough, from what I hear there are quite a few authors and publishers who are angry with Martin behind close doors, because Martin has eroded the trust between readers and authors, being such a high profile case of an author fucking over his audience. For most authors who aren't fantastically rich, it's important that readers extend them their goodwill and buy the first volume of a multipart series even while the rest hasn't been written yet. Their livelihood depends on that arrangement. Thus for some people it's almost a matter of principle moreso than still being interested in what Martin has up his sleeve.

[Anonymous No.20098469]

>>20097296
Sherlock Holmes are just fun short stories that have the trappings of mysteries, but Sherlock is a macguffin who always solves the case using details never given to the reader. A proper mystery has to tip the ending in such a way that it shouldn't be obvious except in retrospect. A lot of the Garrett PI books like Old Tin Sorrows are proper mysteries if you're looking for a fantasy example. Gurm doesn't have mysteries so much as things most people think are probably true but can't prove. Like how the Jews killed Kennedy.

[Anonymous No.20098523]

>>20098469
Ah I get you, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.20098728]

>>20096864
This fucking retard...

[Anonymous No.20098796]

>>20098035
You clearly haven't read the books.