Cthulhu should no longer be considered Lovecraftian.

[Anonymous No.20067945]

The top three images are in essence, the horror lovecraftian horror gives. (usually) Fish-like/slug-like alien beings from beyond anything understandable that taps into that fear of the unknown.

Despite the fact that Cthulhu taps into all of that, look at the three bottom images. None of these evoke lovecraft, they evoke shit that has nothing to do with lovecraft (aka badass art, muscles, angry eyes). And guess what, a massive chunk of art based on Cthulhu is like this. I think because of Cthulhu’s sheer power in the mythos, people elevate that to the highest echelon.

Even though Lovecraft himself drew a picture of him, I never thought that was what Cthulhu looked like, I always thought that Crhulhu would be beyond the understanding of form for any human to see. Dagon is lovecraftian horror. Cthulhu has been morphed by people into something else entirely, missing the whole purpose of Cthulhu’s placement in the mythos in the first place.

[Anonymous No.20067966]

>>20067945
>cthulhu, created by lovecraft, should no longer be considered lovecraftian
>because some retards drew him a way I don't like
anon, I...

[Anonymous No.20067994]

>>20067945
lovecraft describes the carved effigy of cthulhu as having an octopus head, a human body and draconic extremities/wings. if you aren't paying attention to the story, you take this as the literal, gospel truth. however, elsewhere lovecraft makes it very clear that this is an interpretive representation, not a photographic recreation. in essence, think of how abstract ancient carvings of animals were, and then amplify that level of abstraction about a thousand times since something like cthulhu is beyond any frame of reference humans have ever had. the real cthulhu doesn't have two arms and two legs and a human torso. it doesn't have giant bat wings. it probably doesn't even have tentacles as we'd understand them (suction cups, etc). the most lucid description of its face is as a "mass of feelers", which means it's less of a literal octopus and more like a bundle of polyps and arms that could perhaps be interpreted as tentacles. humans can't grasp how this form could move and speak and kill, so they project familiar attributes onto it

[Anonymous No.20067996]

>>20067945
>1984 should no longer be considered Orwellian

[Anonymous No.20068004]

>>20067945
I don’t understand why Cthulhu has so totally eclipsed everything else Lovecraft did. I thought At the Mountains of Madness was far superior. Actually I can think of half a dozen of his stories I found more interesting.

[Anonymous No.20068016]

>>20067945
Top left looks söy

[Anonymous No.20068017]

>>20067966
I’m OP.

You missed the entire point of what I said. I was pointing out that Cthulhu has eclipsed everything lovecraft ever wrote to the point where Cthulhu isn’t even lovecraftian anymore. I used art as an example. But you can find examples in video games (i.e. Cthulhu saves the World) or books (Sweet Dreams Cthulhu).

Thanks for missing the message. Use your brain next time.

[Anonymous No.20068021]

>>20067994
100% thank you. So many fucking idiots forgot this that they now apply stereotypical Cthulhu as fucking canon it drives me insane

[Anonymous No.20068040]

>>20067996
Any of your further opinions related to this topic are now irrelevant because of the sheer cringe of how hard you missed the simple point of this post. AKA I’ll spell it out for you:

>1984 was a horrible example comparatively to Cthulhu. 1984 is a story that doesn’t belong in a mythos. Call of Cthulhu does. 1984 is a story. Cthulhu is a character.

[Anonymous No.20068049]

>>20068017
>I’m OP.
Doubtful, op would never post something this stupid.
>You missed the entire point of what I said.
Wrong.
>has eclipsed everything lovecraft ever wrote to the point where Cthulhu isn’t even lovecraftian anymore
I don't think so. I'd ask for some citations supporting your claim but thankfully you have provided two.
>Cthulhu saves the World) or books (Sweet Dreams Cthulhu
These media artifacts clearly owe their entire existence to the premise of Cthulhu being in them. Specifically, they derive ironic humour from placing Cthulhu in a context incongruous with his character. Did you hear me? Yes, in order for Cthulhu's role in these works to be meaningful the audience must have the Lovecraftian iteration as their preconception.
So am I retarded or did you just disprove your own point? M'thinks so. M'thinks so.

[Anonymous No.20068058]

>lovecraft police

[Anonymous No.20068065]

>>20067966
That’s not . . .

That’s not what OP was saying tho? They were implying across the board I think.

[Anonymous No.20068070]

>>20068058
Yup. Here they are again with this redundant shit.

[Anonymous No.20068076]

>>20068058
Why is this sub so obsessed with a mythos. Just read it and either enjoy or don’t. Have an opinion and then just fucking calm down. So many autists lose their mind over this shit.

[Anonymous No.20068082]

Lovecraft created him and this is the picture he drew of him. It looks more like the bottom 3 pictures to be honest.

[Anonymous No.20068085]

>>20068082

actually I take that back, it doesnt look like any of them at all, I am not suprised I have never seen this real picture before desu.

[Anonymous No.20068086]

>>20068065
That is what OP was saying. He seems to object to Cthulhu not being depicted in a strictly Lovecraftian spirit but that is tantamount to complaining that a *particular* depiction of Mahomet is not in a strictly Muslim spirit. Beyond this puerile complaint he doesn't substantiate his angst.

[Anonymous No.20068092]

>>20068082
He looks like an average 4chan poster eating spaghetti, those bottom 3 images actually made it scarier in comparison.

[Anonymous No.20068097]

Crafted in material beyond the imagination of man.

[Anonymous No.20068113]

>The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind.

[Anonymous No.20068114]

>>20067945
The three bottom images make him look like Godzilla.

[Anonymous No.20068116]

>>20068049
Still OP.

The fact they joke about it in a meta sense still confirms the overall narrative that Cthulhu is more popular than anything else in the mythos, hence why he would be part of the joke, and in the title. Yes you would be aware of him being the mythos. Still proves the point. Thanks for doing it for me. People call it the “Cthulhu Mythos” to differentiate it from other lovecraftian lores for a reason. It’s not called the “Azathoth Mythos”. List off for me how many novel editions, and how many tabletop rpg versions of the three word phrase “Call of Cthulhu” exist?

[Anonymous No.20068119]

>>20068097
Kino

[Anonymous No.20068123]

>>20068082
He looks so at peace

Is that fucker sitting at a park or something

[Anonymous No.20068131]

>>20068086
If something is not portrayed in spirit, shouldn’t it be considered something else entirely?

[Anonymous No.20068136]

>>20068131
No. Not really. Slightly different yes but not entirely different

[Anonymous No.20068139]

>>20067945
No one cares. Except for me since I replied. I just wanted to let you know.

[Anonymous No.20068143]

>>20068086
It’s the mass depiction. It’s Cthulhu’s popularity OP is referring to. I still think it doesn’t matter desu, Cthulhu is in the lovecraft mythos whether he’s popular or not.

[Anonymous No.20068146]

>>20068116
>The fact they joke about it in a meta sense still confirms the overall narrative that Cthulhu is more popular than anything else in the mythos,
Cthulhu being the most popular of Lovecraft's monsters is only incidental to your point in the OP; though you have previously claimed to know it much better than I, so I'm not sure why I should now have to explain it to you.

[Anonymous No.20068148]

>>20068076
Cause Lovecraft is popular

[Anonymous No.20068157]

>"What if Cthulu wasn't just a story?"
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP
>Cthulhu emerges from water
>Tom cruise is looking up with a shocked expression while he's taking off his sunglasses
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>Music by Hans Zimmer starts playing
>"We've known about its existence for years"
>shot of Tom Cruise running
>Vin diesel is talking with Dwayne
>"Looks like we've got one mother of a fish on our hands"
>Vin Diesel smirks
>Music gets even more intense
>shot of Tom Cruise running with Ana De Armas dressed scantly
>Army men and tanks shooting at Cthulhu
>"HE'S TOO STRONG, WE AREN'T EVEN SCRATCHING HIM!"
>buildings collapsing everywhere
>shot of Tom Cruise holding onto a missile as it flies through the air
>"Benji could you please open the missile DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!"
>shot of Vin Diesel driving his dodge charger r/t 1970 into Cthulhu's face in slow motion
>music intensity at its peak
>black screen as soon he's about to hit him, music goes quiet
BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>title fades in
>C T H U L H U
>cut to Kevin Hart signing a cheque for his last payment on the house
>cheerily walks out front door and puts cheque in mailbox
>giant tentacle slams into the block behind him, demolishing his house
>horrified look on his face as he hears the destruction
>turns around
>"AW HELL NAW I KNEW I SHOULDNA HAD SUSHI FOR BREAKFAST!"
this is what lovecraft envisioned

[Anonymous No.20068159]

>>20068143
If this is actually what OP meant then he's dumb. Why would he make a thread stating something that everyone already knows?
>because he's retarded
That would be an adequate explanation, but no... no, I refuse to believe it.
And why the quibbling over drawings?

[Anonymous No.20068164]

>>20068157
BRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[Anonymous No.20068166]

>>20068159
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP

[Anonymous No.20068171]

>>20068159
We are all retards because

>4chan

OP is indeed retarded. Conclusion reached

[Anonymous No.20068176]

>>20068157
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[Anonymous No.20068196]

>>20068114
That's because he is. The pop image of Cthulhu is a winged Godzilla with tentacles and has about as much depth.

[Anonymous No.20068271]

>>20068157
>open on a quiet oceanic vista
>little boy (speaking mandarin) excitedly runs up to middle-aged man as he steps off boat
>HO CHI EN AHH LAA! GOW GEE SHURR
>man smiles and messes his hair
>close up on eyes, they widen (as much as they can)
>oceanic vista from before but there's a giant lump of water rising
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
>jump cut to close up of father's face
>he appears to be chewing
>cut to wide shot of family sitting at the table
>giant slimy tentacle covers it
>little boy smiles as mother cuts him a piece
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
>jump cut to family
>they appear to be getting on a plane
>they are departing for the US
>even grandmother and grandfather are with them
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
>Title card: H.P. Lovecraft's "The Immigration to Innsmouth"