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What are your thoughts on this poem, /lit/?

Love Lies Bleeding by Algernon Charles Swinburne

Yesterday's poem >>20057973

>> No.20063257
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>Algernon Charles Swinburne (5 April 1837 – 10 April 1909) was an English poet, playwright, novelist, and critic. He wrote several novels and collections of poetry such as Poems and Ballads, and contributed to the famous Eleventh Edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica.
>Swinburne wrote about many taboo topics, such as lesbianism, cannibalism, sado-masochism, and anti-theism. His poems have many common motifs, such as the ocean, time, and death. Several historical people are featured in his poems, such as Sappho ("Sapphics"), Anactoria ("Anactoria"), and Catullus ("To Catullus").
>Swinburne is considered a poet of the decadent school, although he perhaps professed to more vice than he actually indulged in to advertise his deviance – he spread a rumour that he had had sex with, then eaten, a monkey; Oscar Wilde stated that Swinburne was "a braggart in matters of vice, who had done everything he could to convince his fellow citizens of his homosexuality and bestiality without being in the slightest degree a homosexual or a bestialiser." Common gossip of the time reported that he had a deep crush on the explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton despite the fact that Swinburne hated travel.
>Many critics consider his mastery of vocabulary, rhyme and metre impressive, although he has also been criticised for his florid style and word choices that only fit the rhyme scheme rather than contributing to the meaning of the piece. He is the virtual star of the third volume of George Saintsbury's famous History of English Prosody, and A. E. Housman, a more measured and somewhat hostile critic, had great praise for his rhyming ability.

>> No.20063293

>>20063255
I wasn't a huge fan of these threads in the beginning, but they've grown on me. Thanks OP.
I like how there are really only two rhymes in an alternating pattern (ABA BAB ABA) interrupted by the half-length (well, ⅖ length) lines that are really emphasised.
Despite his being a decadent, this poem seems closer to something the romantics would write.

>> No.20063301

Swinburne may be seen as gaudy or kitsch but his words have power, one of my favourite english poets

>> No.20063308

Verdict: BASED
Reason: It sounds good

>> No.20063384

>>20063293
Still can't believe the decadent movement gave such a good writer. I guess it's proof that degeneracy is not all bad.

>> No.20063428

Sounds nice but the same theme has been done better by everyone from Shakespeare to Keats to Yeats. Derivative and boring.

>> No.20063442

>>20063428
Share the superior ones.

>> No.20063480

>>20063442
If you want the whole 'allegorical figure in a state of death is surrounded by a variety of other symbolic and allegorical personages with intimations of resurrection and immortality' type of poetry, there's the entirety of Shelley's Adonais. Sure the subject is Keats, but he also has all the ideals of Love, Beauty, Poesy embedded into his depiction anyway so the poem is a hundredfold times more complex than this little lyrical ditty.

>> No.20063489

>>20063480
>the poem is a hundredfold times more complex
I like Shelley, but complexity doesn't necessarily mean better or more beautiful.

>> No.20063506

>>20063489
In this case it does. Adonais can be beautiful, forceful, sensual, melancholic, when it needs to be, and its images are far more innovative and precise. Also if you want Symbolism in English taken to its furthest ends, might as well read Yeats who is cleaner and clearer.

>> No.20063515

>>20063506
>might as well read Yeats who is cleaner and clearer
again, examples would be helpful

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Chud lies sneeding

>> No.20064497

>>20063255
I'm too much of a nitwit to understand the poem.

>> No.20064525

>>20063480
>Sure the subject is Keats, but he also has all the ideals of Love
>Sure X but Y
I don't trust the opinions of those who write and think in common reddit structures.

>> No.20064581

Why is this guy not published by penguin? There's no way to buy his collected poems

>> No.20064613

>>20063489
except shelley shits on swinburne in every other aspect

>> No.20064621

>>20063515
literally any of his poems are better than OP

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>>20064621

>> No.20065663

>>20063506
>>20063428
Lol fuck off with your Yeets meme

>> No.20066353

Bump