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2006190 No.2006190 [Reply] [Original]

Hey guys, i just escaped from /b/ cause that place is a fucking cesspool, then i went to /mu/ but i felt my aquired musical taste was too advanced even for them, and so i'm taking refuge here if you don't mind me staying.

Now let's get some De Sade up in this bitch!

>> No.2006199

go back to /b/ if you think De Sade is good literature.

>> No.2006202
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>>2006199
okay.jpg

Milan Kundera then

>> No.2006207

i wonder if your acquired musical taste is as good as your taste in literature

>> No.2006215

>>2006207
Probably not but feel free to reccomend a book, im very open to suggestions.

>> No.2006218

What authors do you like, OP? also if you hated /mu/'s pretentiousness you're gonna have a hell of a time here.

>> No.2006229

>>2006218
obviously i was being sarcastic. I do not consider my musical taste to be somehow superior. I am a noob when it comes to books, but i would like to get more acquainted with the art of literature. That's why im here.

>> No.2006236

I dread making the association, but Venus in Furs is a really good book and I doubt anyone who read it has view relationships the same afterwards.

>> No.2006239

>>2006202

Kundera is an overrated hack, imho. To gauge your suitability for /lit/, state your feelings on the following authors:

- Ernest Hemingway
- F. Scott Fitzgerald
- James Joyce
- Hunter S. Thompson
- Vladimir Nabokov
- John Steinbeck

That'll do for a start, if you love the above, or have strongly-articulated controversial views on them, you'll fit right in.

>> No.2006251

>>2006229
It is pretty easy to have a better music taste than 95% of /mu/, you just have to stop listening to shitty indie rock, metal and hipster hop.

But some recs for a beginner:
The Trial - Franz Kafka
The Outsider - Albert Camus
The Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes
Brave New World - Huxley (Also 1984 by Orwell)
Siddhartha - Hermann Hesse

>> No.2006254

>>2006239

You total fuckwit. Everyone is suitable for lit if they read anything. polyphany of voices.

Also, read Orwell, anything by him, but Homage to Catalonia and Down and Out in London and Pari are his best works.

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>>2006251
>mfw considering the concept of "better music taste"

>> No.2006261

>>2006251
I have read Steppenwolf by Hesse and i must say i wasn't impressed. Must be the style of his writng that put me off. I'll give the others a try though.

>> No.2006265

>>2006239

What a disgusting cheer for groupthought your post is.

If you read books and you want to talk about them you belong on /lit/, end of fucking story.

>> No.2006287

isn't that how we all wound up on other boards
got tired of wading through shit in search for a good thread on /b/ so i went to /r9k/ where there was a little less shit until it turned into the lonely virgin circle jerk it was.

>> No.2006292

>>2006239

here

People seem to have taken my post as some sort of elitist manifesto for what /lit/ should be; it isn't, it's more of a litmus test. /lit/ is not a polyphany of voices, and no, people who 'read books and.. want to talk about them' don't fit in on /lit/. /lit/ is more or less a circlejerk around the Western canon, with an American bias, so if OP isn't familiar (or doesn't want to become familiar) with that canon, he probably won't fit in/enjoy the board. That's all.

>> No.2006314

>>2006292

I've only read half those books.
I'm better read than you.

Fuck your "belonging" mentality.

>> No.2006322

>>2006292
>/lit/ is more or less a circlejerk around the Western canon, with an American bias

On a predominantly American imageboard. Imagine that.

>> No.2006387

Why do people take offense when I simply describe what /lit/'s predominant interests are? There's no value judgement here, I'm not claiming to be 'better read' (whatever the fuck that means) than anyone just because I'm familiar with the authors in my post, and I'm not putting down American authors when I note that /lit/ has a preference for them. Nor am I implying that anyone should be surprised that the predominantly American userbase of 4chan predominantly read American authors. It's just an observation. Are you guys done picking fights now, or what?

If this was /mu/, and I posted 'if you like NMH and Radiohead, you'll love it here', nobody would have taken issue with that. Maybe /lit/ are bigger assholes than /mu/ after all...

>> No.2006400

If you like good literature, Deep&Edgy, scottish people, and a bunch of stupid fags who have nothing better to do than talk about ridiculous shit like Sci-Fi and Fantasy, you'll love it here!

>> No.2006561

>>2006400
What have scottish people got to do with this?

>> No.2006563

De Sade could be argued to have been an early proponent of existentialism...

But most people think he's a twat with a hard-on for really unhealthy sex.

>> No.2006658

>>2006563

Sade was a pure nihilist. Nothing is true, everything is lawful, therefore I should give in to my sexual and violent instincts no matter how many people suffer from it.

>> No.2006663

>>2006561
Some tripfag thing from last year.

>> No.2006665

>>2006400
WHERE DO I FALL IN THIS

>> No.2006671

>What have scottish people got to do with this?

Because Donatien Alphonse Francois, the Marquis de Sade was, in fact, born Donald "Auld Frenchie" McSod in a small crofters' cottage in John o' Groats---the son of Morag McTavish, an itinerant sporran-weaver, and a French nobleman---and was a boyhood friend of Rabbie Burns. Sade worked as a shepherd tending cheviot in the highlands as he (in his own words) "harked to th' haunting skirl o' th' bagpipes" before involving himself in the composition of pornographic fictional representation of Diderot's critique of Helvetius.

Sade's essential "Scottishness" is crucial to Roland Barthes' discussion of Sade's prose style in "Sade, Fourier, Loyola": Barthes notes the frequency with with the libertines in the "120 Journées de Sodome" pepper their dialogue with regional exoticisms like "och aye", "hoots, mon", and "Ye dinna ken you're roamin' in the gloamin'." In the "120 Journées," Sade also invented a necrophiliac perversion which he referred to as "l'haggis des asticot", which roughly corresponds to the modern (presumably apocryphal) act of "munging".

All of this leads Barthes to conclude that Sade really saw his work totally in line with the critique of Enlightenment that had already been begun by his fellow Scotsmen and slightly older contemporaries, David Hume and Adam Smith. But Sade was obviously closest to James Boswell, and frequently wrote him ten-page screeds inquiring as to the availability of flagellant brothels in Glasgow and Auchinleck.