Start with the Pajeets

[Anonymous No.20057170]

Where do I start with Hindu Philosophy?
Please do the needful sirs

[Anonymous No.20057173]

[Anonymous No.20057184]

>>20057170
Dasgupta's A History of Indian Philosophy is the best survey.
For primary sources, the Gita and Upanishads are where you start.

[Anonymous No.20057208]

>>20057184
The primary sources are the first 3 vedas.

[Anonymous No.20057216]

>>20057170
Start with Gita.
But it would be great if you get a little bit of backstory of Mahabharata, which is pretty great fantasy story in itself.

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[Anonymous No.20057225]

>>20057184
The Upanishads are religious ritual performance instructions with a few remarks on monism and pantheism mixed in.
The Bhagavad Gita is a caste system-based ethical behavior guide. Although they may serve as sources of inspiration for metaphysicians, they are not philosophy works per se.
India has a rich philosophy tradition, which is completely separate from religious writings and oral traditions.

[Anonymous No.20057258]

This thread sounds like a bait. But https://archive.org/details/EncyclopediaOfIndianPhilosophiesBibiographyVol.IIKarlH.Potter/page/n7/mode/2up

[Anonymous No.20057279]

Don't start with primary sources

[Anonymous No.20057292]

>>20057225
>India has a rich philosophy tradition, which is completely separate from religious writings and oral traditions.
Interesting, can you elaborate and perhaps recommend me some essential books to read in order to understand the different branches of Hindu philosophy? Also, is it safe to say that Advaita Vedanta is the main Hindu school of thought both in India and in the west or is this incorrect? Obviously apart from Shankara what lead to Advaita proponents like Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda becoming so popular in the west, perhaps the similarities with Christian thought?

[Anonymous No.20057297]

>>20057173
I can't tell if this is supposed to be a pro or anti Christian post.

[Anonymous No.20057313]

>>20057279
This, start with Guenon.

[Anonymous No.20057314]

>>20057208
Is there actually a complete translation of any of the Vedas? Because it seems mostly to be Rg Vedic hymns or The Upanishads. With the bulk of the Vedas missing.

[Anonymous No.20057332]

Where do you start for learning hinduism or non-dualism from the perspective of somebody who wants to put it into practice? I like the gita but I feel like a basic rundown of the world/self view would be a better start. I don’t want an 800 page manual.

[Anonymous No.20057353]

>>20057292
>Also, is it safe to say that Advaita Vedanta is the main Hindu school of thought both in India and in the west or is this incorrect?

Incorrect. Advaita is actually a pretty minor view now and tends to find its home among the highly educated wealthy and westernized. Sankara is seen as national hero for his contribution to Hinduism by articulating strong counter arguments against the then dominate Buddhism, but the vast majority of Hindus practice some form of Bhakti, or devotional practice. They just worship their deity like any other.

[Anonymous No.20057355]

>>20057292
Advaita is just one school of philosophy from India. It is not the "main" school of philosophy any more than Stoicism or Platonism ever was in the Western world. There's Nyaya, Vaisesika, Samkhya, Yoga, Purva Mimamsa, and Vedanta, all of which are distinct and have their own fields of study. The Nyaya, for example, was very concerned with the form of logic as demonstrated through speech, and regarded grammar as the means to analysing how individual words can be combined for the sake of transmitting thoughts. The Yoga school of philosophy is, in contrast, much more idealistic and less logic-based, seeing the mind, rather than physical substances, as the ultimate source of order.
Because these schools of philosophy all explore a few similar ideas but drive them to radically different conclusions, it is necessary to regard each one of them as a completely different form of interpreting and interacting with reality. One must not make the foolish assumption that it's all just funny sounding word-games made up by Indian people, or that they are the equivalents of the ancient Greek and modern Western schools of philosophy.
Although it may be good to read secondary sources so as to get a good overview on them, it is better to read the original sources, while keeping in mind the definitions and examples of main concepts given by each author, so as to see how they play around with each idea and deal with it either the same way or differently from other philosophers.

[Anonymous No.20058285]

>>20057332
this nigga

[Anonymous No.20058489]

>>20057355
Could you recommend something to that gives a broad outlook of Indian philosophy ?

[Anonymous No.20058510]

>>20057170
Damn, why is Hindu imagery so scary? Like imagine worshipping this

[Anonymous No.20058533]

>>20057170
Supreme is Indra over all. The Rig Veda cured ny erectile dysfunction. Especially the last hymns about fucking your daughter and publicly cumming on her back and mocking indirectly ascetics for having useless swinging micropenis.
SUPREME IS INDRA OVER ALL!
source and citation incoming. Flipping pages rn

[Anonymous No.20058538]

>>20058510
LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE, NERD BOY!

[Anonymous No.20058552]

>>20058533
take your jadibuti, schizo

[Anonymous No.20058556]

>>20058552
Im joking but I seriously want an explanation.

[Anonymous No.20058576]

>>20058510
Well not really, this specific image is an ugra (terrific) rupa of the Goddess Kali, the Goddess of death and destruction. There's plenty of saumya rupa imagery, that confirms to ideals of sattvic depiction. (What a Christian may consider "divine, i.e - look at theotokos!)

[Anonymous No.20058596]

>>20058576
Would worshipping Kali be the equivalent of worshipping Satan?

[Anonymous No.20058599]

>>20058596
(((No)))

[Anonymous No.20058667]

>>20057225
>The Upanishads are religious ritual performance instructions with a few remarks on monism and pantheism mixed in.
Incorrect, the Upanishads are not focused on rituals, they are primarily concerned with imparting knowledge of Brahman. All the ritual instructions are contained in the earlier non-Upanishad portion of the Vedic text.

>>20057332
Where do you start for learning hinduism or non-dualism from the perspective of somebody who wants to put it into practice?
This text below

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

>>20058489
Essentials of Indian Philosophy - Hiriyanna is a good overview of Indian philosophy that is only about 200 pages

[Anonymous No.20058986]

>>20057170
Nisargadatta Maharaj's I Am That is a good introduction to Advaita.

[Anonymous No.20059187]

>>20058556
Im having a tough time finding the exact daughter money shot verse. Still lookin

[Anonymous No.20059199]

>>20057170
Bhagavad Gita
easy and short

then Guénon of course

[Anonymous No.20059371]

>>20059199
this

[Anonymous No.20059820]

>>20059187
I gave up my search but I had a point about primordial incest being linked to the hero and sexual vigor. One must induce great energy yet conserve it. This feeling of heroism is linked with romanticism and veneration for the metaphysically primordial reified Gods.

[Anonymous No.20059829]

>>20059820
Dynamism within ones own being results in a calm ecstasy contained within an ascetic. As microcosms of the galactic message it does not map to us being incestuous. That was the joke however saying that it does.

[Anonymous No.20060045]

It's good to talk about translation when discussing this stuff too.

[Anonymous No.20060094]

>>20058596
You have to understand the symbolism. The head she holds in her hand is the head of a demon she killed, but also symbolizes the detachment from rational mind and transcending it.

[Anonymous No.20060103]

>>20057355
Is pic related a good introduction? Any other recommendations?

[Anonymous No.20061532]

>>20057353
>by articulating strong counter arguments against the then dominate Buddhism
wrong, only an advaita practicioner would think his arguments against buddhism are strong, since all he does is create an obvious strawman that not adress any of the main point of buddhist philosophy, his critique of pratikiasamutpada is probably the worst ever articulated and his understanding of sunyata is just incorrect , and buddhism was already decaying by that time, muslims did a lot more to end buddhism in india than shankara, in fact thanks to shankara a lot of buddhist concepts stay in india in the shape of advaita notions, that's why so many people called shankara a crypto buddhist

[Anonymous No.20061876]

>>20061532
Listen, I have no horse in this race as I am neither an Advaitin or a Buddhist, but I had a suspicion someone would take umbrage with that term so let me explain my meaning.
I consider it strong in that it provides a systematic critique that doesn't just rely on recourse to scripture, that offered effective (if not justified) pushback against Buddhism (that, importantly, persists to this day), and was universal and generalist enough to provide a tangentially united front for the various, and often disparate, Vedic strands against nastika of different kinds (and again, importantly, continues to do so).

This to me is strong in the historical sense. You can debate the truth value of its specific claims with someone invested in that debate.

[Anonymous No.20062101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2faZUJRfcE

[Anonymous No.20062179]

>>20060094
I don't know, man. Maybe it's my western sensibilities but worshiping a four handed three eyed monster wearing a necklace of human heads and a belt of arms would be weird regardless of the symbolism. Are you saying Hindus are supposed to read a positive message from this?

[Anonymous No.20062749]

>>20057292
>Christian
>thought

[Anonymous No.20062770]

>>20057170
>>20058285
>>20058576
Indian "art" looks demonic. Anyone who says otherwise is a kike. How you can take literature of a people seriously that use six million vowels in one name, half of which are 'a' is beyond me. You want to read literature from a mongrel and servile slave race that comes in by the millions to the West to drive wages and antagonism to bad work conditions down. Yes, I know Brahman cast doesn't necessarily mean pajeet, it still doesn't refute what I am saying. Anything that comes from mongrels cannot be good.

[Anonymous No.20062982]

>>20062770
>comes in by the millions to the West
If Indians are comming to Your country and ruining Your lives, then who truly is the slave race?

[Anonymous No.20063727]

>>20062770
It looks fucking cool, I'd rather worship something imposing and capable of holy violence instead of some Jew who got killed by other Jews. Christianity and Judaism are servile religions, turn the other cheek and all that.

[Anonymous No.20063772]

>>20062179
It's the deeper symbolism, when contemplated it communicates with certain subconscious and unconscious structures, leading to inner change and higher consciousness.

In my opinion, it's not needed, you can take the direct path trough silent meditation. It will take longer, but it's safer.

[Anonymous No.20063796]

>>20057170
im currently reading the rig veda
shit's boring as hell