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The reason 4chan harbors such a deep resentment for Reddit and sites based off its mechanics is precisely due to narcissism. Because there is an inherent bias that 4chan 'dictates' Internet culture (not true, BTW) it follows that this tribalism will extend not to gatekeeping 4chan, but stereotyping other websites' users. It does not matter to most anons that the 9gag zoomer, IRC boomer and sociopathic Discord tranny all seem to congregate on /vpol/ despite their differences.... Because at the end of the day they unite in hating Reddit. So if a thread derails into spam and endless flame wars, then most will just see that as "4chan being 4chan" and reply based to give someone another (you) EVEN IF THEY DISAGREE.

Let's avoid discussing Reddit for a moment to instead look backwards at that paranthetical. 4chan likes to believe that 4chan has the ability to twist and confound the Internet on a psychological level, and in part this is true. Nobody remembers the keen curation which allowed eBaumsWorld to keep such a foothold as purveyor of early Internet culture; and while SomethingAwful was admittedly way funnier and clever than 4chan, its devout march against anonymity was from the get-go was a death spiral into irrelevance. So, then, 4chan sought to combine these two sites' disjoint features into a comfortable middle ground: If 4chan props up the illusion of anonymity and chaos, while knowing FULL WELL that the mission statement is still to curate a set of ideas for a very particular, yet very broad zeitgeist... Well, (you) can see where I'm going with this.

>"Reddit is still cringe, though."
And you are still based, for certain. But there is a part of your unconscious which is now attuned to always think of Reddit as the disembodied 'nerd' while 4chan is the hard-edged, boneheaded 'jock.' You go to 4chan to laugh and shitpost, you go on Reddit to get mad or, in -certain- cases, begrudgingly find a solution to a problem you know all too well 4chan won't assist with.
>"There are many use cases for both sites."
For which you could no doubt find more efficiently on a variety of other places. And yet you have to exist in this binary sphere, where Reddit is the bad thing and 4chan is the not-bad-not-good-actually-very-deep-and-mysterious thing. Because you can't say it's good / bad, and you instead feel righteous knowing that based / cringe is both a manifestation of and a refutation of the same kind of updoot-edit-gold hauntology which keeps Reddit alive in a state of cryostatic communal right-think. You ironically install yourself into a collective by unironically championing supposedly superior systems. Or perhaps instill? Distill? There are many use cases.
>"You're here forever."
And you wear that as a badge of honor, while claiming it to be a curse. You're like someone who gets poisoned in a JRPG but never heals with an antidote. even though you've x99 of them just sitting in your inventory.
>"Don't care, didn't read."
Good, I'm glad. You never do.

>> No.20043981

Reddit is what happens when you let w*men invade your space.

>> No.20043993

>>20043981
Lit was better when more women posted

>> No.20043994

ywnbaw

>> No.20043997

>>20043971
This doesn't seem all that groundbreaking, to me. Very much stating the obvious and coming to no new interesting conclusions. Reddit is fine, the format kinda sucks, but it's fine. Any decay in reddit quality can be reflected anywhere else on the internet; just as they're overrun by loser snoyboys, 4chan is overrun by teenage phoneposters. The internet is worse

>> No.20043999

>>20043971
i don't really agree with the entirety of your analysis, but i do agree that post-gaymergate 4chan is as bad of a hivemind as reddit

>> No.20044015

>>20043971
lmao go back

>> No.20044023

>>20043997
nah, reddit is shit and tryhard

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>>20043971
This is not true I am 4chan and I disagree

>> No.20044056

>>20044023
nuchanners are even worse tryhards. always trying to outdo each other and show that they're the most tradcath, anti-technology, /fit/, based and redpilled manly men

>> No.20044062

>>20044056
That’s just /pol/, the designated tourist board. Tradlarpers aren’t majority on any other board, except /his/ maybe (blue/pol/).

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>>20043971

>> No.20044077

/lit/ is a subreddit, as is /mu/ and /x/

>> No.20044082

>>20044062
They can show up anywhere and all it takes is 1 to shit all over a whole thread.

>> No.20044085

>>20044062
even if not a majority, they're definitely a very vocal minority on every board on this site, at least in my opinion

>> No.20044100

>>20044085
Yes, >>20044082 phenomenon genuinely temps me to make the reddit leap from time to time as much as I detest the idea of user identity persistence, Internet points, and the associated ramifications.

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The Bell Curve
Donald Trump
Jews
Trannies

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>>20044056
yeah where do you think they all came from?

>> No.20044118

>>20044056
>>20044062
Counter-point: If 4chan was able to come to a consensus about its roots as an anime site, then this constant one-upmanship would disappear overnight. Anime is central to anonymity both literally and figuratively, but all the things described in these two posts are an attempt to skirt around what it means to be anonymous and instead contort it to fit some "underground" narrative.

The cruel irony of 4chan's life is that the people using it in, like 2006, were probably bigger normalfags than the people who are on it now. The only difference is that they weren't scrambling to find a way to call themselves edgy without calling themselves edgy.