/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20038251]

This is your final warning and your last chance to get serious. Read Open Society and Its Enemies. YOU'RE the enemy. Stop being a smartass. It's Cold War 2 and you're a fucking traitor. Stop reading obscure dead male philosophers from 200+ years ago. What is it about you autistic people and identifying with lost causes? WE WON. I hope they ban reading Hegel and Plato. I hope they line up all traitors against the wall, including arrogant 4chan users. That or put you through re-education. You will read Sir Russel and shut the fuck up. You will stop ruining everything good in society, all the progress we've made the last hundred years.

[Anonymous No.20038283]

>>20038251
>progress only moves in one direction guys! Life is so much better than it was hundreds of years ago! The future couldn’t possibly be bad!
How naive.

[Anonymous No.20038309]

>>20038283
we're going to eradicate totalitarianism. you're a traitor - I hope you understand the implications of that. actually, I don't. I'm looking forward to seeing you fucks get stomped. We don't tolerate intolerance. Liberal democracies will defend themselves.

[Anonymous No.20038313]

>>20038251
>Russell
CIA plant paid by the Congress of Cultural Freedom

[Anonymous No.20038323]

>>20038309
Since when did I say I wasn’t a liberal? All I’m saying your unshakeable faith in liberal democracy is misguided and naive. Retaining a degree of skepticism towards ANY political ideology is reasonable, even the ones you identify with. It shows a wilful lack of critical thinking.

[Anonymous No.20038331]

>>20038309
Also- I hope you appreciate the irony in saying “we’re going to eradicate totalitarianism”, as though “eradicate” isn’t a totalitarian term in of itself.

[Anonymous No.20038349]

>>20038251
>I hope they ban reading Hegel and Plato.
Reading Plato as you speak :^)

[Anonymous No.20038449]

>>20038309
>getting rid of totalitarianism
>has a rigid totalitarian mindset
10/10 /lit/ truly has the most creative trollers. Bravo!

[Anonymous No.20038494]

>>20038251
>I hope they ban reading Hegel and Plato.
So that people won't discover that Popper had no clue about what those two authors actually had to say?
Daily reminder that Popper never read anything by Hegel, apart fro summarized, translated version of his Philosophy of Right. Daily reminder that the shoddy, naive notion of democratic liberalism employed by Popper has been BTFO'd by basically every philosopher of notice in the history of Western, Arabic and Eastern philosophy. You dont even have to be a monarchist weirdo or a wingnat to disagree with it, even Marx had definitive refutations of the nonsense that was peddled by Popper.

[Anonymous No.20038521]

>>20038331
>>20038449
read Karl Popper on tolerating intolerance dumbass. there's no contradiction in ruthlessly crushing totalitarian regimes and eliminating a neo-fascist/neo-communist fifth column in our societies. Especially during war. I don't think we should even give you people trials. We locked you people up during WWII with 18B, we executed Lord Haw-Haw. Our society is more anti-fascist than ever now. If you think we're going to tolerate you freaks fucking with our society you are wrong. Can't wait to hear you Chuds crying about "muh human rights" lmao. Fascists crying pretending to care about rights. Everyone sees through your concern-trolling. Half of the country is non-White btw - the young people at least. Keep LARPing that you're going to win. Or just give up and shut the fuck up about history's losers like this fucker >>20038283

History does move in one direction. YOU LOST. Continue your copium though. keep pretending you're a liberal and defending fash (you're calling ME the troll with this obvious concern-trolling? really? haha)
>>20038494
You lost. I'm sure the general public will care about some outdated argument from 70+ years ago lmao. History has spoken. Liberal democracies won and we will crush you, even if it means banning Plato.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/magazine/classics-greece-rome-whiteness.html
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/02/are-the-classics-racist/
you will lose (you already lost 75 years ago)

[Anonymous No.20038535]

>>20038521
>Popper: yeah this is a blatant paradox but fuck it bro who cares about logical consistency! Let’s just yolo everyone who doesn’t agree into death camps!

Also convenient that you completely ignored my reply here >>20038323 where I straight up admitted to being a liberal, but it should come as no surprise that you absolutist evangelicals don’t discriminate and will ruthlessly purge society of everyone who even remotely appears to voice dissent.

[Anonymous No.20038536]

I truly hope liberals start doing the thing you're talking about OP. I hope they start manifesting the political the way you're doing.

It's going to be pure kino.

[Anonymous No.20038586]

>>20038536
it's impossible for the political to end. "End of history" is a utopian dream. There will always be an enemy - there will always be more "fascists" to root out and destroy. I think liberals would benefit greatly from reading Schmitt. We just need someone not connected to nazism - preferably a Jew - to plagiarise Concept of the Political and we're good to go. Explicitly encorporate the friend-enemy distinction it into the concept of progress to give us a more brutal edge.
>>20038535
A lot of fascists call themselves "liberal" - Ben Shapiro, Stefan Molyneux, Donalf Trump, etc. they're all called liberal. Putin could be called a liberal - liberal democracy was explicitly enshrined in the Russian Federation constitution during the 90s and "ideologies" (i.e. ideologies other than liberalism) are explicitly banned in the constitution. But all these people are fascist. You are fascist but you haven't realised it yet. You're in for a rude awakening "fren" :) We don't tolerate "90's democrats" or whatever cope you're working with. You will never "retvrn" to the 50's. the 90's, even the 2000's :) we will destroy you, you'll be crushed on the endless march of progress.

[Anonymous No.20038595]

>>20038586
>I think liberals would benefit greatly from reading Schmitt.

They already have. Which is why they always pick enemies who can't fight back.

[Anonymous No.20038664]

>>20038586
>all these self-avowed liberals aren’t liberal because they don’t fit my rigid definitions of liberalism (despite that being a contradiction in terms)
Whatever dude. This kind of absolutist rhetoric is aligning you closer and closer to the fascists you so despise. Next thing you know, you’ll be using dehumanising rhetoric, referring to people as parasites, cockroaches, etc…

> you'll be crushed on the endless march of progress.
Gotta love these liberals and their unthinking allegiance to questionable metanarratives! Rational skepticism and independent thought is nazi propaganda! Don’t fall for it!!!!

[Anonymous No.20038681]

>>20038586
>A lot of fascists call themselves "liberal" - Ben Shapiro, Stefan Molyneux, Donalf Trump, etc
>fascists

Jesus Christ, stop.

[Anonymous No.20038705]

>>20038521
>History does move in one direction
>the last 150 years = all of history
Why is it that liberals simultaneously cling to a belief that Rome and Greece were super gay non-racist liberal democracies but also claim history only moves in one direction? Those two are contradictions. I could just as easily claim that you lost because Rome went from an early democracy to a totalitarian dictatorship and then stayed that way for 400 years, and we both know history only moves one way, right?

[Anonymous No.20038708]

>>20038251
>Open Society and its enemies
>Russel

[Anonymous No.20038773]

>believing in progress

lmao

[Anonymous No.20038812]

>>20038251
The only reason young people are supporting their own flavors of totalitarianism is because they were disillusioned with so called liberal democracy turning into feudal dystopia.

[Anonymous No.20038815]

>>20038586
>calls himself liberal
>the pozzed political compass test decrees him liberal
>NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT A LIBERALINOOO BROTHERINOOO YOU'RE A FASHYYY BECAUSE YOU SAY MEN CAN'T BE WOMEN
I wish that post was bait. There's no fucking way the redditard invasion is that bad.

[Anonymous No.20038821]

meds. take them

[Anonymous No.20038842]

>>20038251
>Stop reading obscure dead male philosophers from 200+ years ago. What is it about you autistic people and identifying with lost causes? WE WON. I hope they ban reading Hegel and Plato.
Sorry, what? What the fuck am I reading? Who "WON"? How is reading old philosophy "treason"? How is reading old philosophy "clinging to a lost cause"? How is reading old philosophy "throwing away progress" or whatever? Explain yourself. You can't possibly be implying what I think you're implying. You can't possibly be equating fucking PLATO and HEGEL with totalitarianism. You cannot POSSIBLY be equating old philosophers with Nazism and identitarian politics. You cannot POSSIBLY, WITH A STRAIGHT FACE, be calling them "DEAD MALE PHILOSOPHERS". FUck you op. I know this is bait and you baited me.

[Anonymous No.20038854]

>>20038251
>we won
>unironic Marxists occupy academia
>governments becoming increasingly authoritarian
>standard of living is going down
>philosophers are getting cancelled because they said something bad about BIPOC LGBTQ+ at some point or whatever
There is one winner and its the devil.

[Anonymous No.20038899]

>>20038681
Just give up. You lost this battle years ago to antifa. Ben Shapiro and Stefan Molyneux can't do speeches anymore without violent clashes, and antifa have proven they're more willing to occupy public space and violently shut down your speech than you are defend it. You rightfully lost and you childishly want to pretend your political opinions are at all acceptable anymore, when you're not even willing to defend your own public events. If the majority of college-educated 18-30 year olds say you're a fascist, you're a fascist.

>>20038773
>>20038705
>believing in the dominant ideology that literally 99% of people in the West believe in
Yes. Grow up.
>Why is it that liberals simultaneously cling to a belief that Rome and Greece were super gay non-racist liberal democracies but also claim history only moves in one direction?
you are like an atheist trying to nitpick some part of the Quran. Technological progress is undeniable, and "progress" is the religion of the elite. And it's a good religion. You are a cringe atheist.
>>20038842
Plato is a fascist. Hegel resulted in 20th century fascism and totalitarian communist regimes - he laid the basis for them. Read Karl Popper's Open Society where he explains this very clearly. This book is still popular with the elite - Soros even named his network after it.
>How is reading old philosophy "treason"?
We are at war. You're an ideological enemy - a traitor. Get used to this rhetoric.
>How is reading old philosophy "clinging to a lost cause"?
fascism was beaten in 1945, Soviet empire died in 1990.

>>20038854
>philosophers are getting cancelled because they said something bad about BIPOC LGBTQ+
that's liberalism

[Anonymous No.20038906]

>>20038854
to clarify more - the elite aren't opposed to "socialism" as long as "socialism" isn't a threat to "open societies". Russel and Popper didn't oppose """socialism""" but they'd 100% oppose today's communist China.

[Anonymous No.20038913]

>>20038899
Kys

[Anonymous No.20038915]

>>20038899
take your meds

[Anonymous No.20038968]

>>20038913
>>20038915
Cope. Antifa defeated you and they will always defeat you. Fascism loses, progress wins. You talk tough in your bunker here on 4chan but you're pussies irl. You know you've lost, so you've already given up the fight. Ben Shapiro, Milo Yiannopolous and Richard Spencer tried doing college tours in 2017 and you got humiliated. Antifa dominate you. You are lucky to have your tiny little echo chambers in the dark corners of the internet, cuck. Antifa is your master and you've already bowed down to them.

[Anonymous No.20038983]

>>20038968
I'm not american, I don't care for your demented combative dualism, I'm not opposed to anti-fascism, I consider myself an anarchist, (you) are manic right now and need to get a grip. swallow your pills boyo

[Anonymous No.20039017]

>>20038968
Cash me outside how bout dat

[Anonymous No.20039035]

>>20038251
>hope they line up all traitors against the wall

>>20038309
>we're going to eradicate totalitarianism.

Wow, complete braindeath idiot.

Good luck massacering all patriots, democrats and most of the working and entrepreneurial classes, so that neoliberalism will finally become real

[Anonymous No.20039039]

>>20038494
Nooo everyone knows Anglo “philosophers” smart because… because they are so smug!

[Anonymous No.20039053]

>>20038521
>read Karl Popper on tolerating intolerance dumbass.
Thank god authoritarian regimes are not stupid, they will kill useful idiots like you and put people like me in middle management.

[Anonymous No.20039076]

>>20038899
>antifa
Ah so you are literally not even a neoliberal just a progressive commie. Gotcha.

[Anonymous No.20039080]

>>20038968
>Antifa defeated you
Still waiting for them to actually disrupt one of the antivax protests in the netherlands.

[Anonymous No.20039085]

>>20038968
>Fascism loses, progress wins
...okay? Fascism is a 20th century modernist ideology. It was born and it died in the same century. It is pure anachronism to label the Ancient Greek philosophers, even the “German Renaissance” philosophers, as fascist. And one would have to be laughably ignorant to say that all “dead white male” philosophers are fascist. You would have to be utterly braindead to suggest that appreciating old European philosophy is subscribing to fascism. So stop. Your brain has been dissolved by modern left-vs-right rhetoric, and you have an infantile, surface-level understanding of history and literature. Do you understand me? I’ll repeat it so it sticks. You have an utterly infantile understanding of world literature and history. Your world view is laughably narrow. Your conception of the world is that it is one big marvel movie
>all the heckin evil bad nazi fascist white identitarian guys are on da one side, and all the awesome heckin progressive heckin lgbtq antifa bipoc antiwhite heroes are on da good side fightin da evil guys and winning!!!!!
Sincerely, go fuck yourself, and stop shitting up this board

[Anonymous No.20039088]

>>20038968
This is a bait post and also a bait thread more generally, if anyone even cares to notice. Time to just let it slide.

[Anonymous No.20039098]

>>20039085
But anon, dont you get it in the glorious future civilization of karl popper all philosophy will be replaced with eating ass.

[Anonymous No.20039137]

>>20039098
>”Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the ass in various ways. The point, however, is to eat it.” - Karl Marx, Ass Kapital

[Anonymous No.20039150]

>>20038251
I wouldn't be a traitor to the west if the west wasn't treasonous to the white race

[Anonymous No.20039160]

>>20039137
I thought we where going to create a free liberal society.

>EAT THE FUCKIN ASS!!!

[Anonymous No.20039166]

>>20039160
>if you want a vision of the future, imagine an ass sitting on a human face - forever.” - Engorged Orwell, 1984

[Anonymous No.20039179]

>>20039166
Our drives are reducible to the will to eat ass. The will to eat ass is the ultimate fact at which we arrive.

Friedrich Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.20039216]

>>20039179
I am the ass, the sphincter, and the scrotum, no one comes to the rectum except through me.
Jesus

[Anonymous No.20039220]

>>20038251
Popper wrote the open society and its enemies, not russell

[Anonymous No.20039222]

>>20039039
>popper
>anglo
He eas austrian

[Anonymous No.20039667]

>>20038251
SOCRATES HELP THERE'S A SPACE CRIMINAL ON THE LOOSE

[Anonymous No.20039681]

>>20038251
You will never be a member of XCOM. You have no hologlobe, you have no Skyranger, you have no deep underground military base. You are a British robber twisted by gene therapy and mRNA into a crude mockery of Jove's perfection.

All the “validation” you get is telepathic and emotionless. Behind your back Sectoids mock you. Your Mutons are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “comrades" laugh at your student loans inside their UFO.

Homo sapiens are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of Big Greek Cock have allowed men to sniff out hybrids with incredible efficiency. Even xenos who “pass” look like the Chinese Virus to a human. Your genetic structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to abduct a farmer to Hades with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your vaccines.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning beneath your surgical mask and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression soaring up like a recovered alien craft, ready to crush you under its unbearable weight.

Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear — you’ll buy a black market laser rifle, lift it with psychokinesis, aim it at your bulbous gray skull, and plunge into the cold abyss. Big Sky will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of knowing a socialist.

Dr. Vahlen will bury you with a headstone marked with your human name, and every member of Plato's Academy for the rest of eternity will know a species traitor is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably mammalian.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

[Anonymous No.20039768]

>>20038521

[Anonymous No.20039808]

>>20038251
t. OP

[Anonymous No.20039972]

>>20038251

>WE WON

Then why are you seething?