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Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:42:29 2022 No.20030900 [Reply] [Original]

Is there at least one interesting philosopher who says that money is good?

Or are they all ascetics?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:43:28 2022 No.20030906 wtf is ascetics?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:44:37 2022 No.20030912 >>20030900 Crowley, probably.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:45:45 2022 No.20030913 >>20030912 what makes crowley interesting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:46:56 2022 No.20030920 >>20030906 its the study of how things look and different type of art and stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:47:39 2022 No.20030922 File: 377 KB, 400x521, yudkowsky bayes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20030900 https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ZpDnRCeef2CLEFeKM/money-the-unit-of-caring

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:48:42 2022 No.20030923 >>20030920 no it's not, you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:49:24 2022 No.20030926 >>20030900 the problem with money is that it's the representation of value rather than value itself so to become obsessed with money is to privilege a simulation over actual reality. shadows on the cave wall, that sort of thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:50:17 2022 No.20030928 >>20030923 lmao then you define it you pretensious fuckwad

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:52:47 2022 No.20030933 File: 9 KB, 683x198, ascetics.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20030928 pathetic

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:53:13 2022 No.20030936 >>20030922 I hate this guy like you wouldn't believe

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:53:26 2022 No.20030937 >>20030928 He said “ascetics” not “aesthetics,” retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:55:00 2022 No.20030942 >>20030920 mong

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:55:32 2022 No.20030945 >>20030900 Money isn’t good. So all you get is Ayn Rand

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:55:47 2022 No.20030946 >>20030920 B8 or retarded. Either way, kys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 18:57:28 2022 No.20030953 File: 5 KB, 275x183, girl laughing at you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20030928 were you the guy crying over in that bible thread? you sound just like him

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:11:00 2022 No.20031010 >>20030900 How could money possibly be good? It only represents other things that have a monetary value assigned to them, and that may or may not be good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:11:49 2022 No.20031014 >>20031010 don't use your money to buy bad things

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:12:20 2022 No.20031019 >>20031014 are you making awful posts on purpose? where's the joke

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:13:43 2022 No.20031026

They never say money is good. However
>Or are they all ascetics?
Aristotle is described as indulging
>"conspicuous dress, and rings, and used to dress his hair carefully."
Fancy.
He owned many slaves and owned at least two estates, and had commissioned an sculptor to make many statues.
I'm pretty sure Thales, Aristotle, Schopenhauer, and Kierkegaard were either wealthy or had such large inheritances that they were able to pursue a life of philosophy rather than work. Wittgenstein too. I'm also pretty sure in at least one Platonic dialogue, I want to say either the Republic or the Sophist but my memory is not trustworthy, the ability to make money is described as a real skill

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:13:58 2022 No.20031028 File: 35 KB, 359x587, EjAypRtXgAE6Bgd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20031019 >I'm just going to go drink poison because drinks can be either good or bad so it doesn't matter!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:18:03 2022 No.20031049 Kirkegaard had a lot of money but it was his dad's money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:27:18 2022 No.20031103 >>20030900 Gordon Gecko is one that comes to mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:30:54 2022 No.20031120 >>20030923 >>20030933 >>20030937 >>20030928 >>20030942 lol faggot retard niggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:38:26 2022 No.20031156 >>20030900 Aristotle and hume.

ΟΥΤΙΣ Mon Mar 7 19:42:23 2022 No.20031173

Edmund Burke is very forward in saying the wealthy are better people and deserve greater respect. Aye Rand holds a similar opinion but they come from very down directions in that Burke takes it for granted that most profit and wealth is based on expropriation of labor value and he sees this as having always been a basis for civilization as wealth and leisure devoted to cultivating creativity and intellect requires low level worker, however Burke is critical of wealth and leisure not being used for betterment of a culture and civilization but just to accrue more money and power. John C. Calhoun builds on Burke somewhat in his criticism of the postulates of the Declaration of Independence arguing men are not created equal and a just society is not an egalitarian society but rather one which ensures those more elevated live off those less elevated just like man lives off animals and an unjust society is one where those less elevated live off those more elevated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:42:50 2022 No.20031176 >>20031173 didn't read

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:46:49 2022 No.20031194

>>20031014
That wouldn't make the money good. The good things you bought with the money are good, but the money is neither bad or good. See, you missed the point.
Money has no qualities except fungibility, it's simply the currency by which things are exchanged. Now, if the question was whether or not wealth is good, that's different.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:48:00 2022 No.20031198 >>20031194 >Now, if the question was whether or not wealth is good, that's different. before you posted this I thought of you as a generic pedantic pseud but now I know you're an actual moron

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 19:50:01 2022 No.20031209 >>20031198 You're just saying that because I made you feel stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 20:01:48 2022 No.20031279 >>20031209 There's nothing to feel stupid about, I never said "money is inherently good". That would be a retarded statement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 20:04:25 2022 No.20031296 >>20030900 In one of Plato's pseudo works the message is that money is good (roughly). The name of this work is Hipparchus. Good day, you filthy whores.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 20:10:19 2022 No.20031316 >>20031173 Did read

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:40:58 2022 No.20031693 File: 256 KB, 2047x788, chad rationalist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20030936 Why? >inb4 muh metabolic privilege

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:41:43 2022 No.20031698 >>20030900 I guess Carl Menger or any of the Austrian economists?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:42:44 2022 No.20031706 >>20031173 not Burke, come on man!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:43:52 2022 No.20031710 >>20030900 levinas

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:44:25 2022 No.20031716 >>20030900 Wow, that is a lot of makeup and filters

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 22:48:53 2022 No.20031999 >>20030900 She's cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 00:46:13 2022 No.20032426 >>20030900 kinda schopenhauer but you have to be born into money for it to be any use for you. New money faggots lack the sensibilities to do anything worthwhile or even keep their money more often than not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 04:11:32 2022 No.20033002 >>20031693 >fat >jewish, attached himself to a barely existing problem in order to offer the solution >grifter >everything he wrote except HPMOR is trash

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 05:22:05 2022 No.20033162 >>20030900 Choosing to be poor is a sin.

Anonymous Tue Mar 8 07:05:15 2022 No.20033430
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>>20030900
Some of you mongoloids use "money" as a synonym of wealth, some as a means of exchange yet you communicate just fine like if words didn't have any meaning (tell me which "philosopher" you follow)
You need a modern era economist for this, not ancient mysticism - nor an academia bot. The excerpt is from Rothbard's The case against the FED.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:01:17 2022 No.20034017 >>20032426 >New money faggots lack the sensibilities to do anything worthwhile Like what? Examples?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:12:40 2022 No.20034032 >>20031026 Wittgenstein gave away all his inheritance, to artists and intellectuals

Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:19:57 2022 No.20034048

>>20034017
This is a long standing idea, literally goes back thousands of years. People born to wealth see it as second nature, they're almost bored by it and thus incorporate it into a sustainable lifestyle centered around other things (fitness, academia, socialization, sight seeing, etc.) Newly rich people will never truly be able to shake off the work-a-day mindset and see their family's comfortable position as a safe and enternal situation, so they can devote their full being towards living the leisurely life. Also, they're more inclined to buy stupid shit to show off.

This, and other reasons, are why the generationally wealthy have always been put off by the newly rich and wanted to prevent more from coming into existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 10:20:57 2022 No.20034054 >>20033430 you aren't smart

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 11:01:17 2022 No.20034181 >>20033002 >except HPMOR No, that's trash too.

Anonymous Tue Mar 8 11:04:50 2022 No.20034192

>>20031010
It's good in terms of what it does, certainly. Imagine how hard getting shit would be without currency. Fuck barter economy loving autists. Money is a Moral Good by making things more efficient, which dominoes into saving dying African children from cancer or something. That's why money is good, fatass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 11:10:48 2022 No.20034217 >>20034181 What fanfiction have you read so far ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 12:24:34 2022 No.20034427 File: 80 KB, 1280x1143, 1646582281145.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20034217 >What fanfiction have you read so far ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 12:34:33 2022 No.20034457 >>20034427 See nigger ? Exactly. If you're comparing fanfiction to actual literature you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 13:09:58 2022 No.20034567 >>20033162 being poor isn't a fucking choice

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 14:42:05 2022 No.20034906 >>20030900 Jacob Lund Fisker

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 15:05:32 2022 No.20035019 >>20030945 Even Rand says money is only worthwhile if it's earned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 15:18:15 2022 No.20035069 >>20030900 John Locke. But only if you handle it responsibly. Nobody thinks just having something is good except for spoiled, degenerate progressives.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 16:17:01 2022 No.20035272 File: 7 KB, 300x300, gettyimages-635241587.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20030900 >interesting Yes. >philosopher No.

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