Dubliners

[Anonymous No.20029404]

>A book about nothing but meaningless anecdotes about people from Dublin
>Anglos want to pass this crap as one of the best pieces of literature of all time
Why don't we hold the criteria of Anglo academics to any standard?
(To be fair the dead was alright)

[Anonymous No.20029415]

>>20029404
This was never meant to be anything more. It's slice of life. Not sure what grotesque expectations you had.

[Anonymous No.20029420]

>>20029404
>shallow criticism
>ad hominem attacks on Anglo critics instead of saying anything about the content of the book itself
Yep, this is a pseud thread. Slide and ignore. Post below me and your mother dies in her sleep tonight.

[Anonymous No.20029449]

>>20029415
>>20029420
Seeing how this book was supposed to set a breaking point in short fiction and is consistently regarded as a masterpiece (it also appears in every lit top 100 edition lmao) I was expecting a little more substance than stories whose only point was "pedophile talks to boys on the street" or "kid goes to buy something for his crush in a bazaar".

[Anonymous No.20029459]

>>20029449
Dude you just killed your own mother

[Anonymous No.20029529]

>>20029449
It is impossible to explain to an idiot that admires complexity why simplicity is what is actually admirable. The book is called Dubliners and he’s giving you a cross-section of Dublin, I don’t know what you expected. Yes, it’s great. The writing is excellent, plain and effective and cohesive, the choice to leave the narrator outside the mind yet we still get to know the characters, the choice for the stories to deal with progressively older people, to showcase failures, the amazingly wide varieties of failures, but most of all again the writing. Go read McCarthy on a public bus and spend the entire time imagining what you look like if that’s what you enjoy doing

[Anonymous No.20029558]

>>20029449
you probably just got filtered by literature in general

[Anonymous No.20029569]

>>20029404
As compared to what, OP? ANYTHING from the East? Don't make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.20029579]

>>20029569
>Anglos are the entire West
??

[Anonymous No.20029584]

>>20029579
pretty much

[Anonymous No.20029598]

>Angloooooooooooooos

[Anonymous No.20029611]

>>20029449

>caring about plots
Not gonna make it. Reddit is down the hall and to the left. Marvel movies are more your speed.
In the grand scheme of things of the classic canon, Dubliners is one of the easier books to enjoy and get into. Please leave now. Literature is not for you.

[Anonymous No.20029615]

>>20029584
Wrong

[Anonymous No.20029618]

>>20029598
That looks like a negro, which is the Anglos' favorite pet.

[Anonymous No.20029620]

>>20029598
>implying

[Anonymous No.20029656]

>>20029615
Right.

[Anonymous No.20029658]

>>20029618
Third World East confirmed

[Anonymous No.20029663]

>>20029529
>muh heckin simplicity is so BASED

[Anonymous No.20029670]

>>20029656
Angloids are not the entire West.
>>20029658
Negrolover confirmed

[Anonymous No.20029684]

>>20029670
Yes we are lmao

[Anonymous No.20029702]

>>20029684
No, you're not.

[Anonymous No.20029967]

>>20029702
Yes we are

[Anonymous No.20029972]

This was officially when I gave up forcing myself to pose as an "intellectual."

This was the most boring pointless shit and I'm 100% positive it is held in high regard because nobody wants to be "found out" for not praising what other idiots have praised.

[Anonymous No.20029988]

>>20029404
>>20029972
Joyce himself didn't seem to care much for a lot of the stories. The two that he thought were most important were The Dead and Two Gallants, both of which are excellent. So I don't know what you guys are on about. The short story isn't a medium for gigabrained maneuvers. It merely implies.

[Anonymous No.20029997]

I liked "After the Race"

[Anonymous No.20030002]

>>20029404
>Strong man bullied by weakling boss
>Strong man sad
>Strong man drink
>Strong man beat wife and kids
>"Ohh, so deep and true!"
Cringe

[Anonymous No.20030016]

retard thread filled with retard posters

[Anonymous No.20030021]

>>20029404
It’s a collection where usually a couple of the stories really speak to a reader. Most acknowledge there are duds in Dubliners. It’s my favorite Joyce along with Portrait

[Anonymous No.20030026]

>>20029404
What books do you like, OP?

[Anonymous No.20030084]

>>20029404
I'am halfway through and my favourite story so far has been "Two gallants", the scene where Lenehan has his repast in the bar waiting for Corley and reflecting on his life made me tear up. Story has a very memorable opening too, makes you wish you could write like that.

[Anonymous No.20030106]

>>20029404
How does this compare to Winesburg, Ohio? I've been meaning to read Dubliners for a while now

[Anonymous No.20030249]

>>20029404
It's vibes

[Anonymous No.20030282]

>600 pages
>nothing happens
Are we the real idiots?

[Anonymous No.20030319]

>>20030282
Yes :'(((

[Anonymous No.20030574]

>>20029404
what do you think makes up everybody's lives? why are you even on a literature board? everything in life is represented and contained in these stories. think before posting. I really hope this is bait

[Anonymous No.20030581]

>>20030574
Its not real its shit Joyce made up

[Anonymous No.20030682]

>>20029404
Call me basic but when I first read about how there are multiple “keys” to reading Dubliners, like how the first stories deal with childhood, then adolescence, then adulthood onto obviously death with the last story, my mind was fucking blown. I knew in theory that you could write a book of short stories in this way, but then when I realized Dubliners in itself formed a whole book and was not in any way just a collection of short stories, I was probably more impressed than I ever was in reading literature. Joyce didn’t even really flaunt it here like he does in Ulysses or Portrait, or as postmodern authors do. I didn’t really think you could pull stuff like this off while still being a stately and essentially Edwardian book. Call me easy to impress, but I’ve never hopped off the Joyce train since.

[Anonymous No.20030685]

>>20030581
it's more real than you

[Anonymous No.20030687]

>>20029449
way to entirely miss the obvious point of the book.

[Anonymous No.20030899]

>>20029663
simplicity is mastery, as every wise man and genius in history has ever noted.

[Anonymous No.20030959]

>>20029618
Lmao

[Anonymous No.20031003]

Most Joycefags are retards attempting to be educated men, like RC Waldun with less social development. The second largest group is racefags who are desperately defending the only 'obscure' white author they know. You can tell because most of the criticism around OP's viewpoint always seems to boil down to:

>muh simplicity is true art
>it's literachure, you will never be le artistic like me
>muh anglos are based


>>20029404
It's meaningless anecdotes about people from Dublin, but it's very well done. The book is less about the content of individual stories, and more about the writing and the overall picture: a snapshot of the Joyce's Dublin.

[Anonymous No.20031921]

>>20029404
the thing about dubliners that's frequently forgotten is that it's actually decayporn. dublin was a fucking shithole in the early 1900's, having gone from being the second city in the empire in 1800. everyone was poor and scraping by in the decaying ruins of formerly glorious homes. it's like if you wrote a book of short stories set in detroit now, or rome in 500

[Anonymous No.20032611]

>>20030026
If we are talking about short stories I like Chekhov, Gogol, Borges and Maupassant. Cheever is an anglo and I like his stories, so there is that.

[Anonymous No.20032614]

>>20029967
Nah

[Anonymous No.20032790]

>>20031003
>>20029404
they're not meaningless anecdotes. we may endlessly discuss what Dubliners is as a piece of art and what happens during these stories. they're only random slice of life snap shots at first glance. consider yourself filtered.
>>20031921
completely true

[Anonymous No.20032912]

Do I start with Portraits then Dubliners?

[Anonymous No.20032930]

>>20029404
>Anglos
>Celtics
Pick one

[Anonymous No.20033922]

>>20032912
You start with Dubliners and skip portrait.

[Anonymous No.20033934]

>>20032930
It's called Dubliners, not Baile Átha Cliathers