/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20027069]

>the single best anthology of ancient literature of all time
>the most studied book of all time
>much easier to read than most ancient literature
>contains the most beautiful ancient poetry
>all in all the single most influential book to ever exist
>not read in schools because it's "some people don't believe in it"
why are people like this? EVERYONE should read this book, idgaf if you believe in it or not but it is on of the best books ever made, even from an atheist view it is utterly beautiful. Worse yet if it was read in schools people would say "wElll wHY nOT tHe quR'an?? Qur'an was written by one pedophile, the bible is a colection of beautiful ancient literature. Honestly the more I think about it the more it pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.20027076]

>>20027069
Hold your horses

[Anonymous No.20027078]

>>20027069
I only read fiction

[Anonymous No.20027082]

>>20027078
Based

[Anonymous No.20027570]

>>20027069
Nobody wrote the Qur'an

[Anonymous No.20028918]

>>20027076
Why should i

[Anonymous No.20028929]

>>20027570
A demon did through the medium of a schizophrenic pedophile

[Anonymous No.20028940]

The bible is very badly written, seriously. You wouldn't be able to say this sincerely if you'd ever tried to read it.

[Anonymous No.20028952]

>>20028940
I bet you got filtered by the law books kek

[Anonymous No.20028962]

>>20028952
the literal first page of the bible is shit

[Anonymous No.20028963]

>>20028940
This, the books starts with two different creation stories. Some books look Ecclesiastes and all are OK. If not for the barbarism of its followers forcing people to, no one would read it.

[Anonymous No.20028968]

>>20028962
Again, you’ve been filtered. Some of the Bible is boring, some is entertaining, some is the peak of literature, such as the Gospel of John

[Anonymous No.20028971]

>>20027069
>why are people like this?
It's not "people," it's non-Christians and communists/critical theorists. The best way to destroy a nation is to subvert its system of education, which is not merely memorization of facts but also formation of good character and ethics. School days USED TO start with a prayer, and americans USED TO not be drug addicted catatonics in front of a screen. Simple fact is the US is a declining empire and destroying its prosperity is part of jumping ship. A certain (((people))) have been at this for many decades.

[Anonymous No.20028975]

I thought it was enjoyable and surprisingly easy to read. I was impressed how from Adam and Eve all the way to Joseph of Egypt it was only a few pages and the story flows nicely. Then I reached Exodus.Yes the part about the plagues and the parting of the sea was quite enjoyable but after that it goes into some very painful details about the construction of the temple and its architectural features and the rituals and how the priest should dress. I thought it would get better but moving on to Leviticus it actually got worse. I completely lost interest when I was several chapters into it and reading the 12th variation of how to sacrifice a goat for forgiveness and it suddenly started describing scab wounds and leprosy and the corresponding sacrificial ritual to deal with that.
It's such a snoozefest and it makes no sense either because not even Orthodox Jews practice those rituals with discipline any more so I don't even know who those are aimed yet.

I haven't picked it up again ever since but I might. I hope Leviticus is the last chapter where this happens because I wouldn't be able to stand another diatribe on what clothes to wear if a priest finds mildew in your house.

Also whenever a lay person claims they read the Bible from start to finish I have a suspicion they either went straight to the New Testament or just read an abridged, "modern English" version of the old one.

[Anonymous No.20028979]

>>20028963
>This, the books starts with two different creation stories
Yep, but that's nothing compared to the four different accounts of Jesus that actually tell the same event with completely different details. But, a broken clock is still right twice a day. There is good literary content hidden away in an otherwise shit book.

[Anonymous No.20028986]

>>20027069
>Honestly the more I think about it the more it pisses me off.
Probably because you're too stupid to understand.

[Anonymous No.20028987]

>>20028968
It's pretty clear that you don't feel free to look at the bible with critical eyes. You all but admitted that you know it's shit but you have to hide behind the fact that some specific parts of it are still okay.

[Anonymous No.20028994]

>>20028963
>>20028979
What are the two different creation stories you talk about? Are you counting Noah as a second creation story or am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.20028997]

>>20027069
It's not atheists that prevent the Bible from being taught in school as literature it's Bible thumpers. Schools already cover Greek mythology with no problem Christian mythology would be easy to do but Christcucks don't want it taught as a myth or literature they want to pretend it's real.

[Anonymous No.20028999]

It's a book of jewish autism. Hindu texts have far more clarity and wisdom.

[Anonymous No.20029011]

>>20028929
Why would a "demon" tell people to worship God and only God? Why would a "demon" tell people that the greatest sin they could possibly commit, would be to worship something other than God, the creator of the universe, or to ascribe equals or partners to the one true God? Why would a "demon" tell people to pray to God five times a day, and to constantly remember him? Why would a "demon" so assiduously remind people to keep up their prayers to God and to pay alms to the poor? Why would a "demon" so assiduously remind people that they will be judged for the actions of their life, and that they had better act with a clear conscience and moral scruples or they will be cast into Hell? Why would an evil demon tell people to be good, to pay charity, to remember the one true God, to honour their mother and father, to treat all people with equal respect, etc? Why would a "demon" so assiduously tell people not to do mind altering substances, lest they fall under the influence of demons? Hmmmmm interesting..... Why would a "demon" tell people to avoid black magic like the plague, or they will literally be punished in Hell by a benevolent deity? Hmmm that doesn't sound like something a 'demon' would say. Why would a "demon" tell everyone to esteem spiritual matters above earthly matters, to be an upstanding citizen, to abstain from sexual immorality, to avoid magic, etc etc? Why would a "demon" make billions of people pray daily to God to ask him to guard them from the influence of demons? You have read the Quran, right? You know what it actually contains, right? You really didn't think this through, moron.
>inb4 uhhh by sending prayers to God they are actually sending their worship and energy to someone who is not God, because they call him Allah
I'm not even a Muslim I just think it's absurdly retarded for anyone to think that Islam, one of the most puritan religions on the planet, was the invention of a demon.

[Anonymous No.20029017]

>>20028994
It's a bit of a pedantic point, the two stories largely are about different topics and the second one just happens to start from the beginning again and tells it a bit differently, but it is still true. Even my Bible College-educated religion teacher in high school told us so.

[Anonymous No.20029030]

>>20028994
It's genesis chapter 1 and 2, respectively. If you don't feel like reading it (and I would understand if that was the case, it sucks), just skim this
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_narrative#First_narrative:_Genesis_1:1%E2%80%932:3

[Anonymous No.20029145]

>>20029011
>Why would a "demon" tell people to worship God and only God? Why would a "demon" tell people that the greatest sin they could possibly commit, would be to worship something other than God, the creator of the universe, or to ascribe equals or partners to the one true God?
In order to make you trust what it says and to make you reject Jesus Christ and His atoning death

[Anonymous No.20029156]

>>20028997
this. well said. have som karma

[Anonymous No.20029637]

>>20027069
We read the first five books of the Old Testament in literature class at my secular high school

[Anonymous No.20029650]

Anyone who praises the Bible has never actually read it, front to back, without skipping anything. There is literally no exception to this rule.

[Anonymous No.20030325]

>>20029650
I think that if you cant at least praise the bible for its longevity and mobility across cultures you are blinded by some axe to grind with christianity. you dont have to like it but you gotta admit that shit has legs.

[Anonymous No.20030337]

>>20030325
It's really not accurate 'the bible' that been the cause of that, no one reads it (many Catholics here will actually get mad if you talk about reading it). It's just this otherwise blank trademark of 'Christianity' that people project their own bullshit on.

[Anonymous No.20030346]

>>20030337
*that 'the bible'

[Anonymous No.20030360]

>>20030325
You realize that what you're doing is the equivalent of automatically responding with "like it or not, Marvel's the Avengers is the best selling franchise of all time, and you'd have to really have to be an incel not to accept that" in response to someone criticizing its plot, right?

[Anonymous No.20030361]

I really don't see the appeal. All the stories and characters seem flat and unrealistic to me.

>most beautiful ancient poetry
Really? Line after line of 'god this, god that' is the best? Doesn't even rhyme.

[Anonymous No.20030388]

>>20030360
no im not. he said than anyone that praises it read it all the way through. i suggested that there are other reasons to praise it even if one has or hasnt read it. I would also like to point out that the marvel movies are largely loved by people who genuinely think they are fun movies. and there is nothing wrong with that. just like there is nothing wrong with people like the bible because some of their favorite written works are in it. have you considered that you not liking the bible is "just like your opinion man" and has nothing to do with the quality of a work widely regarded as the greatest work of all time.

[Anonymous No.20030397]

>>20030337
people moved it around, but where it landed has largely positive things to say about it in our current day, which has to mean something for it. even if it is just a fun bunch of stories surrounded by boring bs.

[Anonymous No.20030408]

>>20027069
>>20028929
>American education
Muhammad didn't write the Quran down.

[Anonymous No.20030411]

>>20030388
this is bait

[Anonymous No.20030413]

>>20028997
>Schools already cover Greek mythology
What school did you go to?

[Anonymous No.20030421]

>>20030397
> but where it landed has largely positive things to say about it in our current day
Yeah, because they haven't actually read it and can think whatever they want about it. I know a super cringey church girl who is literally writing a book about the bible despite not having read the bible.

[Anonymous No.20030426]

>>20029650
So much butthurt ITT lol. What a retarded statement. You think bible scholars at Oxford "skipped the boring parts" or something? I don't understand what it is about hatred of Christianity that turns people into such smugly moronic r*dditcucks. Just move on and read/discuss whatever garbage appeals to you.

[Anonymous No.20030428]

>>20030413
You must have gone to a pretty shit school if they didn't make you read The Odyssey at some point.

[Anonymous No.20030436]

>>20030428
Are you a Euro or did you go to a private school?

[Anonymous No.20030439]

>>20030428
You must have gone to a pretty shit school if you never studied the bible in a literature or comparative mythology class.

[Anonymous No.20030442]

>>20030426
>if I call them redditors, they might not notice that I'm a redditor!
reasonable plan but poor execution

[Anonymous No.20030452]

>>20030436
I went to a fucking ghetto middle school in the south

[Anonymous No.20030469]

>>20030452
I went to a shitty public school in the North and we only read anti-racist crap, a few American classics and Shakespeare in English class.

[Anonymous No.20030471]

>>20030469
same but we also read The Odyssey

[Anonymous No.20030472]

>>20030442
right, because reddit is widely known for its defense of christianity and cringey anti-atheism.
but seriously what kind of fucking retarded no-u shit is this?

[Anonymous No.20030485]

>>20027069
It's not that beautiful. The beginning of the golden bough is more or less as beautiful as anything in the bible, let alone legitimate sacred texts.

[Anonymous No.20030499]

>>20030472
Reddit is known for it's cringey defense of everything, the basis structure of it allows anyone to make their own tightly moderated community that sometimes pertains to things as petty as a specific meme and censors anything that clashes with their vision. There are plenty of Christian subreddits that will give you the safe space that all of you faggots cry about now having on 4chan. You'd have a way better time if you went back there instead of seething here.

[Anonymous No.20030513]

>>20030426
Interesting how this guy has to cite someone else as his example of a person who has read the bible and still praises it, it's almost seems as if he has not read the bible himself.

[Anonymous No.20030524]

>>20030472
Nobody tell him r/Christianity has 313,000 subscribers, r/OrthodoxChristianity has 33,000, r/Catholicism 139,000, etc

[Anonymous No.20030543]

>>20030421
to say that a book has a foothold in a place where no one has read it is insane. You could make the argument that people have cherry picked it, disregarding the rest of the shit in the interest of identifying as a christian people. but you can not rationally claim that no one there has read it.

[Anonymous No.20030553]

>>20030543
>but you can not rationally claim that no one there has read it.
It's pathetic how you have to play this "um actually not all of them are as retarded as you said, a few of them still aren't!" angle (especially because I never even said "all"). If had a real defense for this you wouldn't have to play this reddit-tier rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.20030577]

>>20030439
most Americans go to public school where it is, in many states, illegal to teach widely practiced religious materials as a separation of church and state which is a foundational staple of american legislation to protect people from religious persecution (also american public school system is a joke).

[Anonymous No.20030580]

>>the single best anthology of ancient literature of all time
>>contains the most beautiful ancient poetry
>at this very moment, as I type this, amerifucks believe this to be the case, without the slightest hint of irony

Does the American education system really?

[Anonymous No.20030585]

>>20030513
kek

[Anonymous No.20030595]

>>20030580
>Does the American education system really fail to make sure that kids actually read the books they will hear referenced for all of their lives?
yes, yes it does

[Anonymous No.20030597]

>>20030553
you didnt say all, you said none of them. meaning that all of them failed to read it. dont be dumb at me.

[Anonymous No.20030605]

>>20030597
>dont be dumb at me.

[Anonymous No.20030656]

>>20030605
kek

[Anonymous No.20030785]

>>20030513
lol I've read the whole bible, maybe try nooticing how retarded his statement was in the first place
>>20030524
>>20030499
ok. imagine being this assblasted about christianity.
>>20030577
i.e. "pretty shit schools"

[Anonymous No.20030794]

>>20030785
bait, no one is this retarded

[Anonymous No.20030804]

>>20030794
you're the faggots arguing that "nobody who praises the bible has read the whole thing" lmao

[Anonymous No.20030806]

>>20027069
I want to read it but can't ever split the difference on what variety: KJV seems to have the most literary value, but is slightly too antiquated for my tastes, while most of the other versions feel dumbed down, american, and not literary enough.

[Anonymous No.20030825]

>>20030804
It's called hyperbole, you seething retard.

Lying is a sin, by the way, especially on holy matters. Jesus will be very angry with you for claiming to have read the whole bible when you clearly haven't read a single chapter.

[Anonymous No.20030841]

>>20030825
LMAO at the irony of your life

[Anonymous No.20030844]

>>20030841
you don't even know what that is, mate

[Anonymous No.20031185]

>>20029650
>>20030325
>>20030337
I think this is untrue. My grandma must have read it through like at least half a dozen times and she isn't even educated beyond like 8th grade or something.

it's the only thing some people read
i imagine for others a copy of the bible is probably the only thing they have to read

[Anonymous No.20031223]

>>20030325
You could say the same thing about the Hindu texts but most people on here just throw a shit fit (yes, this was intentional) when you mention them.

[Anonymous No.20031244]

>>20031185
>my grandma must have read it through like at least half a dozen times and she isn't even educated beyond like 8th grade or something.
This brings up a touch of nuance we need to address, the few people who actually do read the bible usually are literal NPCs who are just running their eyes over the words and not thinking. They have a very low standard of reading and they are not internalizing it.

The only non-professor I have met who claimed to have read the bible was this random guy I talked to while having a cigarette and he said it was the only book he ever read (weird statement given that this was a college student) and that he had read it 5 times. I was curious so I asked him to give me a brief analysis of it and he just stared right through me like it was a foreign concept to him.

This principle is the same reason many people here will tell you they read way faster as kids, they simply had a lower standard for what constituted 'reading' and were just going through the motions without thinking until something jumped out at them.

[Anonymous No.20031273]

>>20031223
i would definitely say that about the hindu texts. I also really like the bagavad gita as an epic, outside of its longevity.

[Anonymous No.20031294]

>>20031244
>everyone who has an opinion different from mine either dosnt know what they are talking about or are literally not human.
you are giving me some "everyone is crazy but me" vibes my man.

[Anonymous No.20031300]

>>20031294
I'd be coping this hard too if I had to defend people who have literally only read one book in their entire lives

[Anonymous No.20031309]

>>20031273
I like the Bible too. It's a unique approach to religion compared to the other texts that came about before it was written, at least according to what I've seen. And I agree with your post, including the part about having an axe to grind against Christianity.

I think a lot of the Bible hate comes from the politics surrounding it and not the actual contents of the book. Zealots that quote the Bible to justify their own views scare other people away from the text ("If I read this book I'll end up just like them, etc...")

[Anonymous No.20031317]

>>20028994
Muh lilith

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.20031319]

The Quran objectives more influential because people memorize long passages of it and actually follow it. 99% of the Bible no one ever reads or follows let alone memorizes. SOME parts of the Bible are still relevant, most are not

[Anonymous No.20031322]

>>20031300
I thought those people either didnt read it or werent actually people? are you a real human being?

[Anonymous No.20031344]

>>20031309
I like a lot of the bible. but i was never tempted to skip parts of the gita when I read it. I think I just dont mich care account style story telling because there is occasionally parts that would be interesting on their own that are glossed over quickly where as other parts that are less interesting but more important to the accounty so they get more coverage. I definitly stand by my statement that most people that cant find anything positive about the bible are those with an axe to grind against christianity. it is a fine book.

[Anonymous No.20031347]

>>20031322
I never said that, you mongoloid. Go back to whatever subreddit you came from or at least lurk more until you understand basic terminology like "NPC".

[Anonymous No.20031363]

>>20031319
>99% of the bible no one ever reads or follows
just obviously untrue and the fact that you would make that claim makes me want to discard your entire statement accept that i agree that the quran is more influential than the bible, largely due to the obvious influence it had on the bible. I dont want to be associated with such dumb ass arguments as green text however so this is all i will say about it.

[Anonymous No.20031371]

>>20031347
npc, none player character, in reference to a person without agency. ie only the shell of a human. you did say that and you are the one who needs to brush up on terms friend.

[Anonymous No.20031379]

>>20031363
I'm really trying to figure out what percentage of posts like this are master level trolls and what percenrage are actually from sensitive redditors who will get bullied out soon. It's one of the higher mysteries of 4chan, if we could truly understand it then we could understand everything.

[Anonymous No.20031388]

>>20031371
Yes it stands for non-player character but it is almost universally used here to mean "someone who lacks an internal monologue". And I never said "all of them", you're just a pathetic redditor who thinks the height of rhetoric is "um excuse me sweetie but there are exceptions!" so you're desperately trying to work that in here.

[Anonymous No.20031398]

>>20031379
Does reddit have a guide for new 4chan users that involves going to /lit/? They had one for /ptg/ on /pol/ back during election tourist season and it would make sense that our literature board is seen as a softer environment. That could give us some sense of the numbers.

[ΟΥΤΙΣ No.20031404]

>>20031363
I’d be surprised if Christians follow 1/10 of the injunctions in the Gospels (only communities I’ve seen evidence of doing that are like the ladder of divine ascent) and epistles, let alone the rest or emulate or in anyway resemble anyone in the Bible

[Anonymous No.20031408]

>>20031404
It's hard to measure how well they do it, the bible is just all over the fucking place and genocidal wars have been fought over its interpretation.

[Anonymous No.20031416]

>>20031398
>fucking christian redditors raiding our board
unironically take your meds lmao

[Anonymous No.20031419]

>>20031294
Mate, have you heard the things fundamentalist Christians say about non-believers? "Literally not human" would be polite by comparison.

[Anonymous No.20031421]

>>20027069
I bet you niggers never read the part in the OT about the dimensions of the tabernacle of the congregation. Read that and come back to me about this being the best piece of ancient literature and not just an ancient IKEA manual for jews.

[Anonymous No.20031429]

>>20027069
It is a wee bit more honorable to be a savage pedophile than a narcissistic self-victimizing Jew. Both are bad ofc.

[Anonymous No.20031434]

>>20031388
>if I can downplay everyones opinion that differs from mine as that of a (insert favorite 4chan buzzword here) then everyone will agree that I am right
you win friend. i can do nothing against such rhetorical virtuosity. I relent. enjoy your victory.

[Anonymous No.20031437]

>>20031416
That guy isn't a christian spammer (those are from discord, this has been show with clear evidence), he's just a soft faggot who is trying to generically 'stick it to all the 4chan meanies' whenever he hears anything he considers arrogant. He's been doing this all over the board for about two hours now.

If he's sincere, that is. If it's a troll, I applaud.

[Anonymous No.20031446]

>>20031437
Perfect example here: >>20031434

Almost *too* perfect

[Anonymous No.20031450]

>>20031419
yes and i agree. Not sure what it has to do with anything being discussed but you are right. some of the things christians say about non christians is detestable.

[Anonymous No.20031467]

>>20031450
Mate I don't think you get it, I fucking hate christians, you might be reasonable but did you know many christians are not? I have no interests or passions of my own but I fucking HATE christians, it is so nice to feel anything but the void inside me. Also, the bible is stupid. I am very smart.

[Anonymous No.20031468]

>>20031434
>if I can call you out for bad manners I won't have to listen to your arguments!

[Anonymous No.20031477]

>>20031467
well you strike me as a very level headed person. also im not christian. the quran is dope.

[Anonymous No.20031480]

>>20031467
>this is the guy screaming at people for being rude by using the term "NPC"
you suck at these deceptive games, btw

[Anonymous No.20031483]

>>20031468
kek

[Anonymous No.20031498]

>>20031480
>>20031468
yall mother fuckers really think that statement was about "npc is rude word." Shit man I thought this was a literature board but it seems a bunch of yall cant even read.

[Anonymous No.20031505]

This retard is sperging out about the claim that very few christians read the bible as if it isn't common knowledge. Ive had raised religious people giggle at me for asking if they've read the bible, as if it was a ridiculous thought. Check the stats for yourself if you want, most people don't even have the nerve to lie about it.

[Anonymous No.20031509]

>>20031498
Now this is just sad. You're really not having a good time here, are you?

[Anonymous No.20031512]

>>20031505
>Christians even lie about reading the bible

And that is why we're in end times, frens.

[Anonymous No.20031525]

>>20031512
Most Christians were never meant to actually read the bible. The reason why they are lying about it now is because they fear looking uneducated., even though they shouldn't have to for their religion. Martin Lucifer caused irreparable damage to the faith

[Anonymous No.20031526]

>>20031505
I read The Lotus Sutra in one day and read analyses multiple times. I can barely get through the Bible or Koran without feeling genocidal thoughts.
I hate Christ, Muhammad, Moses, and so forth more than all "heretics" combined throughout the entirety of history. I'd slaughter all of their children and women without a shred of remorse. There is no such thing as a good Christian, Muslim, or Jew. All of you will eat shit and suffer for thousands upon thousands of kalpas, icchantika filth. My compassion is the sword to your neck when you least expect it.

[Anonymous No.20031529]

>>20031526
based

[Anonymous No.20031531]

>>20031498
I noticed the confession that you aren't from here

[Anonymous No.20031532]

>>20027069
it's not literature, if you aren't a believer there's nothing much for you there you can't find somewhere else

[Anonymous No.20031538]

>>20031525
I'm saying most don't even bother to lie, they're open about it. Mostly I just hear ridiculous excuses, my favorite was "each verse has 1000 meanings!", as in, it takes 1000x time to read it as a normal book of the same length because you have to sit there going through the 1000 meanings of
>“You shall have a place outside the camp, and you shall go out to it. And you shall have a trowel with your tools, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it and turn back and cover up your excrement. Because the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, so that he may not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you"

[Anonymous No.20031541]

Somebody remind me, how many cubits long and wide must the tabernacle be?

[Anonymous No.20031550]

>>20031509
yeah ur right. I need to chill. what have i got to prove. you have taught me a valuable lesson. thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.20031554]

>>20031532
elaborate?

[Anonymous No.20031556]

>>20031550
glad I could save you from a tragic suicide that would hurt your parents deeply

[Anonymous No.20031566]

>>20031505
you know what, thats fair.

[Anonymous No.20031571]

>>20031526
>my compassion is the sword to your neck when you least expect it.
too kinky for my taste. can we try missionary first.

[Anonymous No.20031577]

>>20031556
my dads thank you for your service. maybe there is a way I could repay you?

[Anonymous No.20031588]

>>20031554
It's scripture, it doesn't even have to make sense or be interesting

[Anonymous No.20031592]

>>20031577
post your credit card numbers with their expiration date and security codes

[Anonymous No.20031606]

>>20029011
>Why would a demon mislead you into worshiping a false god?
Retard

[Anonymous No.20031609]

>>20031592
I can send you crypto. I closed my bank account when the russia shit started. but I only have raven coin.

[Anonymous No.20031616]

>>20031606
>cant even make up a reason plausible reason
intellectual giant over here!

[Anonymous No.20031618]

>>20031609
Just post your account info, I'll take care of it

[Anonymous No.20031622]

>>20031616
for teh lulz!

[Anonymous No.20031632]

>>20031618
ok hold on. I gotta get my recovery code.

[Anonymous No.20031656]

>>20031616
>I'm not refuted
>Sarcastic reply
Cry

[Anonymous No.20031660]

>>20031656
based

[Anonymous No.20031780]

>>20030361
Do you buy your lunch at the cafeteria, or does your mommy make you something to bring to school anon?

[Anonymous No.20031883]

>>20031505
nigga that says that 32% of people have read anywhere between almost all and more than once
32% is not an insignificant amount, nor "very few", nor is it "none of them" as was stated earlier.
Did you really think this was helping your case?

[Anonymous No.20032045]

>>20031505
>Anyone who praises the Bible has never actually read it, front to back, without skipping anything. There is literally no exception to this rule.
>Akshually when I said literally no exception it was figuratively and not literally, it was hyperbole ok, why are you being mean to me? You're a sperg, I actually just meant most christians don't really read it that much

[Anonymous No.20032053]

>>20030361
I dunno anon
15 Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the Lord, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.

4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.

5 The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone.

6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble.

8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

9 The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.

10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.

11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?

12 Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them.

13 Thou in thy mercy hast led forth the people which thou hast redeemed: thou hast guided them in thy strength unto thy holy habitation.

14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

15 Then the dukes of Edom shall be amazed; the mighty men of Moab, trembling shall take hold upon them; all the inhabitants of Canaan shall melt away.

16 Fear and dread shall fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm they shall be as still as a stone; till thy people pass over, O Lord, till the people pass over, which thou hast purchased.

17 Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O Lord, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established.

18 The Lord shall reign for ever and ever.

19 For the horse of Pharaoh went in with his chariots and with his horsemen into the sea, and the Lord brought again the waters of the sea upon them; but the children of Israel went on dry land in the midst of the sea.

20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.

21 And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

[Anonymous No.20032057]

>>20030361
This also appeals to me:

1 The song of songs, which is Solomon's.

2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.

3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.

4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

7 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents.

9 I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses in Pharaoh's chariots.

10 Thy cheeks are comely with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains of gold.

11 We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver.

12 While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.

13 A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.

14 My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards of Engedi.

15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

17 The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.

[Anonymous No.20032062]

>>20032057
I mean come on this is great:

2 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.

2 As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters.

3 As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner over me was love.

5 Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick of love.

6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.

7 I charge you, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please.

8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.

16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies.

17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether.

[Anonymous No.20032155]

>>20031526
>You will never be a bodhisattva

[Anonymous No.20032160]

>>20031526
You would make a great jihadist

[Anonymous No.20033874]

>>20031883
Those are just the ones who answered that way to a Christian survey. Safely you should cut that at least in half and/or remove one level from each of them ("uh yeah I read about half", sure you did).
>>20032045
I wasn't the guy who said that but obviously that was hyperbole, that's why I threw in with him. You actually are a sperg if you don't understand that but truth is you're just seething and want to pull at threads.

No is even trying to deny the claim that most non-scholars who read the bible several times are barely absorbing any of it. That anecdote I gave was horrifyingly true, he was a legit NPC and had no thoughts about it to share despite having read it 5 times (of which he was bragging).

Let me lay out my model, you have very few people left over who have read the bible cover-to-cover if you exclude
>People just reading it in a perfunctory way to 'get it over with' without thinking
>People whose job it is part of (professors, priests)
>non-christians who read it out of literary curiosity (I'm planning to join this category)
>former christians who read it and then began to think for themselves and left
What's left is mostly black people, by the way. Black churches actually make a big deal about the bible and you will meet otherwise poorly read black people who have read it and can tell you about it.

[Anonymous No.20033916]

>>20031606
>Islam talks about a singular indivisible unbegotten, doesn't beget non-anthropomorphic creator of everything and everyone and only ONE worthy of worship since the the beginning of time till the end of time across every single civilisation
>Christianity talks about worshipping 3 Gods, one of which is literally a man that was bore by a women. No mention or rational conceptualisation of this theory is every found before except in pagan polytheists religions.
>islam is the religion with a "false god"
You're retarded beyond belief

[Anonymous No.20033941]

>>20029145
In the Christian conception you have God the father, God the son (Jesus) and God the spirit. Why would a demon tell people to worship one of the "Godheads"? Why wouldnt they demon just tell people to worship something(s) completely else entirely? And from a Christian perspective why would it matter if you just worship one of the trinity? Moses only ever makes mention of worshipping one God as an example. He also died before Christ was even born so couldnt accept him, is he damned? So, so so moronic beyond belief

[Anonymous No.20033943]

>1500 years after Christ, some guy suggests that we actually read the bible instead of just going with the ad hoc wisdom of the catholic church
>Europe instantly erupts into centuries of genocidal war that are worse than any in history until at least WW1

[Anonymous No.20033964]

>>20033941
The trinity is dumb meme the early Catholic church made up, it is not biblical. Goes to show you've never read the bible.

[Anonymous No.20035053]

>>20033874
lmao at accusing anybody who replies to your shit bait "seething"
imagine being this butthurt about... something? Mainstream/casual christians? Who cares anon. You're acting retarded. Maybe you are retarded. I'll pray for you desu

[Anonymous No.20035057]

>>20035053
*of "seething"

[Anonymous No.20035759]

>>20028962
so is the first page of portrait of an artist as a young man, so?

[Anonymous No.20035781]

>>20027069
A-hem

[Anonymous No.20035784]

>>20027069
The Book of Job seems to me the only one that seems really well written to me. Probably because it predates the Jewish nationalism. There are some interesting stories and myths here and there too.

[Anonymous No.20035814]

>>20035053
case in point

[Anonymous No.20035854]

>>20035814
irony

[Anonymous No.20035935]

>>20033964
Cope or provide better argumentation for this claim. These are your options.

[Anonymous No.20036158]

>>20027069
Why King James though?

[Anonymous No.20036976]

>>20027078
wow

[Anonymous No.20037010]

Truth does not lie within this thread.

[Anonymous No.20037020]

>>20037010
but then you'd be lying right now

[Anonymous No.20037060]

>>20028971
hmmm, wasn't this how Christianity did its work in the Roman empire? stupid 'anti-semite'

[Anonymous No.20037071]

>>20027069
If you could make all secular schools teach one book of the bible, which one would it be?
>Hard Mode: Cant pick the book of John
>Dante Must Die Mode: Nothing from the NT

[Anonymous No.20037104]

>>20037071
Genesis, easy.

[Anonymous No.20037105]

>>20037071
Exodus, with commentary from the Assmann.

[Anonymous No.20037138]

>>20037104
>incest
>rape
>sodomy
>murder
>genocide
>fighting God
Not knocking Genesis. I like it very much. But this is how you lose the permission to teach any book in school.

[Anonymous No.20037148]

>>20037071
One of the Wisdom books probably.
>Ecclesiastes > Job > Proverbs > Psalms > Song of Solomon

[Anonymous No.20037388]

Numbers should be in the Bible’s appendix