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20015467 No.20015467 [Reply] [Original]

Why do Genre fiction authors use Fantasy and Science Fiction as a way to peddle their philosophical bullshit? Why can’t they just write non-fiction literature to do it? Or do what philosophers did in the past and just write about them? Pic related is an author who wrote a mediocre fantasy series just to sell his philosophy since he failed to get his PhD in philosophy.

>> No.20015478

>>20015467
i kinda feel that way about kurt vonnegut. like just write a philosophy book dude. read slaughter house five and thought it was some preachy bs at the end of it

>> No.20015545

>>20015478
I agree with this, but Star Trek is great.
Star Trek doing philosophy isn’t preachy, it’s just weird metaphysics and value theory shit mostly. Deep space nine first episode had a good philosophy idea about perception of time I thought and how memory changes perception of time.
Or at least that’s wot I thought about it, sad episode too.

I’m only counting tos, tng, and ds9 in this. Don’t know much about voyager or enterprise, but discovery is dogshit.

>> No.20015578

>>20015545
i haven't read any of bakker's books. just checked his wiki and it seems his works are heavily influenced by his life philosophy. i dont really know much about this particular topic but i see what you mean. this show and other things like it are not that preachy, this bakker guy is

>> No.20015602

>>20015578
>this bakker guy is
>i haven't read any of bakker's books
Sure buddy.

>> No.20015611

>>20015602
oppp you got me. i read all of his books twice.

>> No.20015804

>>20015467
>Why can’t they just write non-fiction literature to do it? Or do what philosophers did in the past and just write about them?
You answered your own question in the following sentence.
>an author who wrote a mediocre fantasy series just to sell his philosophy since he failed to get his PhD

Authors who use genre fiction to write their philosophical thesis are already failures in their field. It's why they write them in genre fiction to begin with.

>> No.20016709

>>20015804
>Authors who use genre fiction to write their philosophical thesis are already failures in their field.
And that's why /lit/ is full of his fans. 4chan in general is a bastion of losers cheering for other losers and claiming that they are "visionaries"
/pol/ thinks Dugin is important
/lit/ thinks Moldbug has any thoughts
/sffg/ thinks Bakker is any good
/tg/ plays AoS and sees nothing wrong with it
/mu/ thinking that one album is very good
etc.

>> No.20016719

>>20016709
you gotta admit though Moldbug is carried by the le funny name and the ridiculous nerd in leather jacket photo
Bakker has nothing so interesting behind him

>> No.20017306

>>20016709
>/sffg/ thinks Bakker is any good
It's literally only like three people who come from reddit.

>> No.20017467

>>20016709
I genuinely don’t know any of them. I’m even surprised you know about them.

>> No.20017476

>>20016709
patrician take

>> No.20018926

>>20017467
It’s for the better.