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If it is about the conquest of France, the Eastern Front or the Pacific War between the USA against Japan it would be great

>> No.20008911

Kaputt

>> No.20009449

>>20008900
Eagle against the Sun is one about the Pacific theater that comes to mind from listening to Dan Carlin

>> No.20009457

Stalin's War by Sean McMeekin

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20009464

Anything about Japanese freakish experiments?
Kinda like this movie?

>> No.20009577

a bridge too far and no greater ally untold story of Polands forces

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>>20009457
I read "Stalin's SECRET War" by Nikolai Tolstoy, and ate a bald eagle for thanksgiving, because McMeekin and turkey are too mainstream.

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He fought in all the major fronts then spent 5 years as a russian POW.

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>>20009659
Nice, how does that one compare to these two? (I've only read part of Tigers in the Mud and none of Panzer Battles)

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Unironically a great read

>> No.20009724

>>20009702
Sorry, haven't read those.

>> No.20009732

>>20009724
Oh well. I'll have to grab "Panzer Commander for the collective, and so my dad can read it. He says Panzer Battles is the best of the two I posted.

>> No.20009736

>>20009732
collection*

>> No.20009793

>>20008911
The Skin is better

>> No.20009812

Depends on what you want really. Gritty biographies or more objective takes on the war?

Death of the Wehrmacht by Robert Citino is very good if it's the latter you want. 1941: Year of infamy by Eri Hotta describes the mentality of the Japanese leadership going into the war. Neptune's inferno is nice if you want blow-by-blow action about the battle of Guadalcanal. Shattered sword is much the same but about Midway. Japanese destroyer captain is really good as well.

>> No.20009816

>>20008900
Any good compilations for beginners?

>> No.20009818

>>20009793
Faggot.

>> No.20009875

>>20009812
Anything is fine as long as it doesn't have excessive propaganda or academic review.

>> No.20009882

>>20009464
It wasn't what I was looking for but I guess I can read about those experiments

>> No.20009890

>>20009816
It's the first time I want to read something about WWII, so yes please

>> No.20009899

>>20009816

Human Smoke

>> No.20009905

>>20008900
someone already mentioned Unit 731, but if you want some more somewhat related reading you might be interested in The Rape of Nanking

>> No.20009952

>>20009457
I kind of want that just so I have Hitler's war, Mussolini's war and Stalin's war all lined up but I read in the reviews that he god some basic facts wrong like names of people. Is it still worth reading though?

>> No.20009961

Unironically catch 22 if you want to see what a farce the whole thing really was

>> No.20009973
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>>20008900
OP, these are the ones I have. I have more that aren't exclusively WW2 focused (some of these, like "Goebbels" aren't either, but the bulk is very relevant to WW2), but I thought I'd keep it narrow. Obviously I have a very dissident perspective, but, aside from the Holocaust denial books, this is all widely read material full of valuable historiography no matter your politics.

>"The Eastern Front" by Leon Degrelle
I haven't cracked this yet, but I read his "Hitler for 1000 Years", which was great. He has a lot to say about WW2 and I look forward to going in depth about his experiences on the front lines.
>"Stalin's Secret War" by Nikolai Tolstoy
Yes, this is by a member of the same Tolstoy family that made "War and Peace". I've read a good portion of it with a finger propping the notes and sources section open so I could quickly check the quality of the research. It's mostly secondary sources, unfortunately, and he even sources his own previous book at one point, which is a big no-no. But a lot of what the book says can be verified elsewhere. It came out prior to the opening of Soviet archives in the 90's so he makes lots of educated guesses that were later backed up by primary sources. Probably, if you want a good book on Stalin's role, go with earlier mentioned McMeekin book by a similar name, as that, I hear, is very well sourced and up to date.
>"Into the Darkness" by Lothrop Stoddard
Very cool book. Gives unique insight in what life inside Germany was like upon the outbreak of WW2. Stoddard gets interviews with top Nazis, including Hitler (unfortunately he had to promise not to disclose what was discussed, and he kept his promise) and Goebbels. What's described is very different than I ever imagined.
>Dissecting the Holocaust" by Various Authors
>"The Hoax of the 20th Century" by Aurthur R. Butz
If you're interested in "revisionism", either of these are great standalone counters to the mainstream Holocaust narrative.
>"Crimes and Mercies" by James Bacque
This is an important work, being the most up to date history of Allied atrocities committed during and for the next 5 years after WW2. Horrific stuff. Has about 40 pages of notes and sources.
>"My Commando Operations" by Otto Skorzeny
>"Hitler's Commando" by Otto Skorzeny
The first of these is definitely something you should look into if you want Eastern Front action. Otto Skorzeny was no joke. The second one is the one you want to avoid as it is the abridged version. I accidentally ordered "Hitler's Commando" and was fuckin pissed when I realized what I'd done. It's about half as long.
>"Tigers in the Mud" by Otto Carius
>"Panzer Battles" by Maj. Gen. F.W. von Mellenthin
My old man says "PB" is the best, but I've enjoyed what I've read of "TitM". Carius is unapologetic about having fought for Germany, and gives his experiences in detail.

1/2

>> No.20009979

>>20009973
>"Five Years Four Fronts" by Georg Grossjohann
This wasn't that good. He skips over most of his battle experiences. There's almost no detail in that regard. He's an interesting guy, though, and you get a perspective departed from the other memoirs here. He is also unapologetic, and expresses some lament for the sufferings of his pagan ancestry at the beginning.
>"In Deadly Combat" by Gottlob Herbert Bidermann
I haven't cracked this one. The one tidbit I found intriguing was that it supposedly debunks the "...myth of a highly mechanized Germany that rolled over weaker opponents with impunity". People forget what a large portion of the German army was using horses. The 3 empires Attacking Germany were FAR more mechanized.
>"Hitler's War" by David Irving
An absolute classic, but despite what you might have heard about Irving, he doesn't really appeal to dissidents like myself. I disagree with a lot of stuff he says in here, and have been able to discount some small portions of the book by investigating sources. Still, it is the ultimate wartime biography of Hitler.
>"Churchill's War: The Struggle for Power" by David Irving
>"Churchill's War: Trimuph in Adversity" by David Irving
I've read the first one. The historiography is first class here, and Churchill is simultaneously a disgusting monstrous worm, and an endearing comedian. I actually want to get his WW2 history having learned a thing or two about him. He was a great writer, mas murderer or not. There might be 3rd one on the way, but Irving is pretty old...
>"Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich" by David Irving
This book is full of cringe because Irving goes into detail, being the first person to crack into the real Goebbels diaries (and being one of, like, 3 people that can read his handwriting), on Goebbels' sappy love letters to his girlfriends. Honestly, this shit is just embarrassing up until the end when Goebbels becomes a kind of hero to the German people. Seriously, if he had had more power at a certain critical point in the war things could have turned out very different.
>"The Six Million: Fact or Fiction" by Peter Winters
It's a coffee table book that very few people are likely to put on their coffee table. It's very lackadaisical with sources, so it's not much more than something to get the noggin joggin on this particular topic.Also, some of the material is barely relevant to the Holocaust, like calling Anne Franks diary fake. That diary doesn't say anything about a Holocaust, it depicts something completely unimportant. Meh on this. Just a novelty.

>> No.20009984

>>20009979
>"Gruesome Harvest" by Ralph Franklin Keeling
This goes with "Crimes and Mercies", covering the same Allied atrocities, except it came out in the late 40's when all this stuff was fresh. Some of its figures are likely not as accurate, but it's an important book, because it's written by an American who was appalled at what he had learned. This isn't just a propaganda piece by an edgy skinhead (of course that doesn't apply to James Bacque either).

I hope this helps, OP

3/2

>> No.20010088

>>20009973
>>20009979
>>20009984
wow anon you really shined with all this compilation, it will take me months to read all this
thank you very much

>> No.20010116

>>20009979
>There might be 3rd one on the way, but Irving is pretty old...
He's also working on the second part on his Himmler book. He's been writing the Churchill one for a while but I wouldn't hold to much hope. He also promised to the daughter of Himmler he'd write a book one day showing her fathers real story so I'd guess he's working more on that. Kind of sweet really.

>Crimes and Mercies
Isn't this one really bad with the stats on how many people died? From what I could find he basically used a really bad method of counting the dead. with a lot of sources said there were like 1500 or something deaths although a lot of hunger and illness. Ironically the exact same thing is the case with the 6 million which is also counted in the worst way you could have done it.

>Stoddard gets interviews with top Nazis, including Hitler (unfortunately he had to promise not to disclose what was discussed, and he kept his promise)
Surely he must have written it down eventually somewhere since he died after the war? Would be a shame since Hitler's ideas were mostly presented in speeches with only a few books in his own words.

>> No.20010134

>>20010088
No problem.

>>20010116
>Crimes and Mercies
I hadn't heard that. I haven't had time to scrutinize it, so maybe it sucks, I dunno.

>written it down
He describes the tone of the conversation, and I don't think anything that important was said, but it would be cool to find it if it exists.

>> No.20010168

>>20008900
Recently read "Stuka Pilot" by Hans Ulrich Ruddel (sp?). He was the highest decorated soldier in the entire German military. I enjoyed it quite a bit

>> No.20010661

>>20009952
He messed up a couple names but the exhaustive information he gathered on Lend-Lease more than makes up for it.

>> No.20010712

>>20009704
Is there a difference between the eastern front and campaign in russia?

>> No.20010744

>>20010712
It's the same book

>> No.20010956

>>20010744
nice

>> No.20011294

>The Hundred days of Lt. MacHorton
Memories of officer with the task of destroy an enemy railway behind enemy lines in japanese occupied Burma. Dunno if its historically accurate

>> No.20011309

Blitzkrieg legend

>> No.20011397

>>20008900
Novels that I know

In the Eastern front:

Vasily Grossman's: Stalingrad, Life and Faith.

Though not on France but on Italy still its really worth it.

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. Screw the sequel of this just read this alone.

>>20009973
This list is good too Anon try checking out one of the books listed.

>> No.20011970

>>20011294
>>20011309
>>20011397
Thanks

>> No.20011993

Death of the Wehrmacht by Robert Citino

>> No.20012049

Any good books about the Siege of Budapest?

>> No.20012309

Vasily Glassman's Life and Fate

>> No.20013114

>>20008900
Naval Destroyer captain is a good one

>> No.20013158

>>20009973
>>20009979
>>20009984
Thanks for the effortposts, anon. I haven't heard of most of these books so I will add them to my reading list

>> No.20013510

>>20008900
"Strange Defeat" by Marc Bloch

>> No.20014086

>>20013158
Which ones did you already know?

>> No.20014356

>>20014086
>Which ones did you already know?
Irving's books and the Holocaust ones

>> No.20015692

Blood and Ruins: The Great Imperial War, 1931-1945

>> No.20015758

Gravity's Rainbow

>> No.20015882

>>20008900
all of steven ambrose's are fun to read, also i had to read the mighty 8th about the air war for a college class which was pretty good.

>> No.20017330

bump

>> No.20017436

https://agrippapublius.substack.com/p/introduction-of-european-civil-war?s=r
This is a translation of Ernst Nolte’s Der europäische Bürgerkrieg, 1917–1945
Nolte is the only right Heglian in G*rmany post war.

A lot of good reccomendation itt
Sometimes I want to make a chart but I suck at editing. I can help if someones wants to