Introducing to philosophy

[Anonymous No.19996924]

Hi,

Can someone please recommend me some good philosophical books for beginners?

Iam 19 and recently I started to take interest in philosophy so i wanna get started reading some books but no idea where to start

Note: i would like to focus more on modern philosophies (past 1600 a.c.) I know lot of people start with ancient greece but i took some philosophical lessons at high school about ancient philosophers and it bored me to death

Thank you for help

[Anonymous No.19996944]

>>19996924
You have to start with the Greeks if you wish to understand any philosopher. I promise you the philosophical reading you do on your own time will be better than the "lessons" you took in high school.

[Anonymous No.19996949]

Ok so what are some greek books ro read?

[Anonymous No.19996952]

>>19996924
You should start by finding whatever philosopher can bend time and give you those four (4) years back
Plan B: If you began to "take interest" in philosophy, you should probably study that thing, which gave you the interest, and expand your reading list from that point.

[Anonymous No.19996984]

>>19996924
The Great Conversation : A historical introduction to philosophy
Pierre Hadot What is ancient philosophy

[Anonymous No.19997028]

They're not philosophers, but mots of them are and this chart was what made me a fan both of literature and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.19997039]

Not all of it is about philosophy, but will help you for sure.

[Anonymous No.19997132]

>>19996924
Plato's works are indispensable because you'll always see his name pop up later and the republic is inmortal.

If such books are too heavy for you right now, you can have secondary introductions to philosophy, such as movies like Fight Club, Trainzspotting or Donnie Darko.
Lighter reading such as Aesop's fables also work greatly.

Don't be scared of using secondary lit such as articles or explanations, as long as you remember they're interpretations and not necessarily the absolute truth about a work.

And lastly, don't make philosophy about the study of books, but about the study of life.

[Anonymous No.19997274]

>>19996924
Meditations on First Philosophy by Descartes: very profound and beautifully written thought experiments that are incredibly influential in philosophy. they are easy to read but warrant close reading as well.

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius / Letters from a stoic by Seneca: two core works of stoicism, the first one short notes, the other longer letters. They are philosophical reflections on how to be a good man, control your emotions, and face difficult times.

Any of the dialogues by Plato: similar to Descartes, these are some of the profoundest works of philosophy that are simultaneously also some of the easiest to read. They discuss a range of important topics in a conversational form, and lay the bedrock for most of philosophy. The British philosopher Whitehead called the history of philosophy 'footnotes to Plato' and not completely without reason.

Discipline and Punish by Foucault: unlike the others Foucault is a much more recent name, but his discussions of structures of power have become incredibly influential, in philosophy but also in other fields like history, sociology, and political science. He has longer and more technical works but this one is pretty short, a careful analysis of the history of disciplinary techniques throughout modernity, peppered with good insights and funny historical anecdotes

[Anonymous No.19997281]

>>19996924
Not sure about 1600 ac but 14000 btu should be enough to cool your apartment

[Anonymous No.19997590]

>>19996924

Take an authority dictionnary around 1870-1920 of philosophy.
Take a good book of history of philosophy that has been approved and praised at that time.
I think its good enough for now.

[Anonymous No.19997618]

>>19996924
Descartes' The Discourse of the Method was pretty easy and short.

[Anonymous No.19997691]

>>19996924
You should probably at least read some Plato and Aristotle. For Plato, I'm pretty sure most high schools don't make you read the fun parts of The Republic. Read the whole thing and don't listen to any book summaries on it because they all skip the edgy/fun stuff. Also most of his dialogs are relatively short but can be interesting. Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics and The Politics are both good. Nicomachean Ethics can be a bit boring at times but overall I thought it was worth it. The Politics reads like a direct 1 to 1 explanation of the American Constitution so its worth reading whether you want to argue for or against the American political system. The History of the Peloponessian War obviously isn't a philosophy book but it was mandatory reading in 16th century English schools and Hobbes liked it enough to translate it so its probably worth reading as well. Its also one of the best books I've read. The 2nd half of that book was really wild. Also the Iliad is possibly worth reading if you want to understand Platos pro censorship views and the general mindset of Aristotle because he tended to start his arguments at common opinion and thr common opinion of his day was largely informed by the Iliad. Obviously these are probably a bunch of books you probably had no intention of reading but it's probably worth it if you are serious.

[Anonymous No.19998101]

>>19997039
nigger pass the part 2

[Anonymous No.19998696]

>>19996949

[Anonymous No.19998747]

I've studied philosophy for six years now. Unhelpful, masturbatory, sort of evil.

Its seriously all about stacking paper and getting bitches. i knew that before I cracked a book. Philosophy will take you nowhere. Its not even an enjoyable trip.

[Anonymous No.19999051]

>>19996924
Hesiod, all of it, pretty short stuff. Amazing for beginners

[Anonymous No.19999087]

Just letting you know now that the end point of philosophy is that philosophizing is a waste of time and your base understanding of things is actually a lot more meaningful than you think for a lot of reasons that provide you know practical benefit to know. There have been philosophers with IQs of 175+ and they've all said in some form or another that thinking is overrated and all of those questions people think they're smart for asking are bullshit that have more to do with grammar than reality.

[Anonymous No.19999112]

>>19998747
I've studied for seven, and just last year, I was on the same page as this anon, but I kept pushing through, and I finally realized the holy, cosmic, and iron truths of the universe; bitches aint shit, and paper is soaked with blood. It's love of life, God, humanity, wisdom, friends, family, nature, and being able to work the land and feed yourself, that is truly worth the most.

[Anonymous No.19999125]

>>19998747
>6 years
ngmi

[Anonymous No.20000411]

>>19999112
There is no God, you and everyone you love is gonna die very soon, and then it's eternal oblivion

[Anonymous No.20000419]

F. Copleston's A History of Philosophy, Vol. 1 Greece and Rome

[Anonymous No.20000431]

>>19998747
Reading philosophy saved me from a well of infernal depressions that stayed with me for most of my life. I don't think it's useless.

[Anonymous No.20000432]

Read Kenny's History of Western Philosophy (4 volumes) if you crave structure, then start with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.20000433]

>>20000411
If you think there is no god then you have not read philosophy for the last 6 years.

[Anonymous No.20000454]

>>20000433
What writings in philosophy managed to convince you? Not trying to be a dick, genuinely interested.

[Anonymous No.20000636]

>>19996924
max stirner - the ego and its own, alternatively if you're really stuck on religion and don't want to stop just go with soren kierkegaard - fear and trembling

[Anonymous No.20000642]

>>19996924

[Anonymous No.20001057]

>>19998101
Not him, but I found the second part, sorry for low quality.

[Anonymous No.20001352]

>>20001057
>>19997039
I have nothing against traditionalism or fascism but the average /pol/ user is a complete retard edgy redditor with the same mindset as a discord tranny just on the opposite spectrum due to the need of being on the opposite side of the spectrum

[Anonymous No.20001551]

>>19999112
Wrong, what is best in life is to crush your enemies, see them fleeing before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

[Anonymous No.20002379]

I hope this helps fren:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[Anonymous No.20002477]

>>19996924
Anon, it really all depends on what and who you want to read. Do not listen to the fags telling you to start with the ancient Greeks, you do not have to do that.
Find a philosopher or a school of philosophy that you're interested in, then simply google "best introductory work for /philosopher's name/" and start reading.

[Anonymous No.20002482]

Start with Plato. The early Socratic dialogues are really not that hard to understand, those books also easily fit 50 pages or so.

[Anonymous No.20002484]

>>20002477
>listen to the fags telling you to start with the ancient Greeks, you have to do that.
fyp

[Anonymous No.20002507]

Berkeley is seriously underrated as an introduction to philosophy

>wrote in English; Anglo monoglotcels can still enjoy the original works, unfiltered and unadulterated by translation
>his ideas are unfamiliar to the philosophical neophyte, yet both simple to grasp and profound in their ramifications