/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19995908]

>try to read the KJV Bible
>comes across as a load of jewish autism, very alien and foreign
>read the Bhagavad Gita
>captivated by its wisdom, clarity, and useful advice

Which Hindoo work should I read next?

Pic related. Himmler believed he was the reincarnation of Arjuna and believed Hindooism was superior to Christianity. He kept a copy of the Bhagavad Gita on his bedside table and recommended it to all his SS men as a balm for their souls when comitting heinous acts. His solution later in the war was to create foreign SS units to spare German soldiers from being tarnished by atrocities, fearing that such acts would make men too beastly to properly serve a victorious, peacetime Reich.

[Anonymous No.19995914]

poopity scoop

[Anonymous No.19995982]

>>19995908
“War is a sacred sacrifice. Enmity fans its flames. Elephant trunks are the ritual posts, and arrows the ceremonial grass. Men perish there as sacrificial beasts. Their cries are the sacred chants.”

Urubhanga
by Bhāsa

[Anonymous No.19995986]

>>19995908
I respect your chosen spelling of Hindoo.
Next you might read 'Ganesha's Sweet Tooth' by Sanjay Patel.

[Anonymous No.19996042]

>>19995908
Just jump straight to savitri devi bro, save you the lead up

[Anonymous No.19996090]

>>19996042
This and Serrano

[Anonymous No.19996128]

>>19995908
The Upanishads.

[Anonymous No.19996147]

>>19995908
Read the Upanishads, with commentary by Adi Shankaracharya. Then read Ramanuja's refutation on Advaita Vedanta.
Also read the yoga sutras by Patanjali.

[Anonymous No.19996166]

Read the Daraputakamparan with commentary by Jujubee Adisababa

[Anonymous No.19996224]

>>19995908
>Which Hindoo work should I read next?

Ramanuja's commentary on the Gita.

[Anonymous No.19996387]

>>19995908
>Which Hindoo work should I read next?
The Upanishads
Srimad Bhagavata
Markandeya Purana
Yoga Vasistha
Tripura Rahasya
Ashtavakra Gita
Avadhuta Gita
Ribhu Gita
Shiva Sutras

>>19996147
> Then read Ramanuja's refutation on Advaita Vedanta.
“The conceptions of Ramanuja are contained in those of Shankara and are transcended by them. When Shankara sees in the localization and duration of sensory objects a direct and tangible manifestation of their unreality, he does not say, as Ramanuja seems to have believed, that they do not exist as objects, but he says that as existing objects they are unreal. Ramanuja affirms against Shankaracharya truths which the latter never denied on their own level.”
- Frithjof Schuon

[Anonymous No.19996394]

>>19996166
Lol. Idk if this is is real. Love the Bhagavad Gita though

[Anonymous No.19996452]

>>19996387
>frithjof schuon quote
Ok? There's still value in studying other systems aside from Advaita Vedanta.

[Anonymous No.19996457]

>>19995908
Himmler lost. Not the best inspiration.

[Anonymous No.19996475]

>>19995908
>Which Hindoo work should I read next?
Devi Gita

[Anonymous No.19996479]

>>19995908
That’s all you got as proof of superiority? A loser? Pic related preferred the bible and he wasn’t a loser, so better example to follow.

[Anonymous No.19996512]

>>19996387
>“The conceptions of Ramanuja are contained in those of Shankara and are transcended by them. When Shankara sees in the localization and duration of sensory objects a direct and tangible manifestation of their unreality, he does not say, as Ramanuja seems to have believed, that they do not exist as objects, but he says that as existing objects they are unreal. Ramanuja affirms against Shankaracharya truths which the latter never denied on their own level.”

I don't think Advaitins understand how weak this is as an argument. Saying "Yeah but our position subsumes it because it says so" isn't a genius refutation, it's deliberately avoiding to answer the criticisms in question.

[Anonymous No.19996519]

>>19996452
> There's still value in studying other systems aside from Advaita Vedanta.
I agree, in sharing Schuon’s quote about Ramanuja’s argument I was just letting it speak for itself, I wasn’t trying to denigrate or make value judgements about the system of Vishishtadvaita as a whole

[Anonymous No.19996524]

>>19995908
upanishads. better than gita, more fun, less mahabarata drama.

[Anonymous No.19996525]

>>19995908
Start with the bagans. No need to larp as a 20th century ideologue

[Anonymous No.19996534]

>>19995908
Shut up zorolarper persian living in America. No one cares and you will never be an Aryan.

[Anonymous No.19996535]

>>19996147
i got absolutely nothing from yoga sutras. ymmv

>>19995908
you might be best off reading another gita translation. or dhammapada. or tao. or upanishads.

[Anonymous No.19996538]

>>19996525
>Ian Assmann
Not the book I would have expected to author, but a pleasant surprise nonetheless

[Anonymous No.19996543]

[Anonymous No.19996559]

>>19996512
> I don't think Advaitins understand how weak this is as an argument.
It’s not Advaitins making that as an argument, it’s an observation by the syncretic perennialist/traditionalist Schuon
>Saying "Yeah but our position subsumes it because it says so" isn't a genius refutation, it's deliberately avoiding to answer the criticisms in question.
Advaitins specifically answered Ramanuja’s arguments in detail already. Schuon, without delving into the details of that exchange, is just making an observation about how Ramanuja’s arguments involve certain assumptions about Advaita and Shankara’s positions which aren’t true. This topic isn’t the subject of this thread, but if you want me to I can explain more in detail why Ramanuja’s arguments against Advaita are wrong or why they fail.

[Anonymous No.19996569]

[Anonymous No.19996574]

>ALL these texts, and read orders
Just read the Mandukya Upanishad over and over. You don't need anything else.

[Anonymous No.19996583]

[Anonymous No.19996587]

>>19995908
Will reading it lead me to be as successful as Himmler with its words of wisdom, clarity and useful advice?

[Anonymous No.19996623]

>>19995908
> read a book that led to Jews and euros to control and rule the world or
> read a book that has led poos to shit in the street and Nazis to lose

Now I’m not a Christian but I base my opinion on practical results

[Anonymous No.19996745]

>>19996623
>>19996587
>>19996583
>>19996569
>>19996543


t. seething kiketian

Nice cope using indians at their lowest civilizational point and comparing it to your highest. Entirety of the christian west today is an atheistic, degenerate, globohomo, tranny worshipping dystopia because of jews and european christians. Your practical result is utter garbage.

[Anonymous No.19996762]

>>19996569
>meanwhile in the west

[Anonymous No.19996764]

>>19996745
This is like blaming the fall of the Roman Empire on pagans. The west hasn’t been Christian since the Nazis took power. It’s been mostly pagan and atheist.

[Anonymous No.19996780]

>>19996745
I would agree, but India never had a high civilisational point except when they once invented the numerals and it ends there.

[Anonymous No.19996785]

>>19996764
The latest date I would give for the de-christening of the west is the Balfour Declaration but obviously you can date it earlier to the French Revolution or to Westphalia, or even Luther, any of which are superior starting points to WW2.

[Anonymous No.19996789]

>>19996780
Cope. India pretty much influenced all of Asia either through direct colonist settling (SEA, Central Asia) or elite transfer (Buddhist Brahmins, Kshatriyas like Kumarajiva or Bodhigupta).

[Anonymous No.19996800]

>>19996780
>India never had a high civilisational point
/lit/ is illiterate on every subject as usual. India was able to field thousands of war elephants when Alexander invaded. If defeating the Macedonians isn't a high point nothing is. India also converted the rest of Asia to Buddhism, something it could not do if it were uncivilized.

[Anonymous No.19996801]

>>19996764
progressive liberalism is the natural conclusion of kiketianity, read a book. you can literally trace the evolution of puritan families in north america to modern SJWs today. Every single abolitionist, feminist movement was sponsored and pioneered by christians.

[Anonymous No.19996808]

>>19996762
>>19996745

India was actually ahead of the west when it comes to that

[Anonymous No.19996841]

>>19996801
Actually progressive liberalism begins with John Locke, who was a Christian but preached religious toleration. I’m not sure what progressive shit puritans did. I’ve read a lot about them and they were far from liberal.

[Anonymous No.19996858]

>>19996841
He's probably thinking how their grandchildren abolished the monarchy to save on taxes.

[Anonymous No.19996873]

>>19996745
So you’re judging western civilisation on 20th and 21st century when it became atheist? Not gonna judge it for the Middle Ages (the low point that you talk about it), but even the Middle Ages were glorious: castles, knights, chivalry, cathedrals and pure SOVL.

[Anonymous No.19996894]

>>19995908
>hindooism
holy shit they made spelling a larp

[Anonymous No.19996900]

>>19996745
> how dare you judge India at their lowest civilisational point and when they still devoutly practise it
> now let me judge Christianity based on when everyone stopped practicing it

[Anonymous No.19996908]

>>19996801
This is true. Cope, christcucks.

[Anonymous No.19996943]

>>19996801
Funny cause there was literally an article written by Joseph Goebbels complaining about the Puritan mistreatment of women by religious Christians and how women should be treated equally and allowed to do what they like

[Anonymous No.19996946]

>>19996587
I fantasize a lot about dying in ww2 recently it seems almost a gift compared to suffering in clown world maybe i just think too much about the small details of it all

[Anonymous No.19996948]

>>19996943
>women being free to operate in a merit based system is bad
No, retard, women being taught to hate men because your country is run by jews is what's bad.

[Anonymous No.19996973]

>>19996948
The west has been run by Jews for 1700 years so what’s new?

You’re hoping Hinduism will put an end to Jewish control?

[Anonymous No.19996987]

>>19996946

Understable that you’re a nazi and you want to kill yourself. Nazism is a death cult.

[Anonymous No.19996996]

>>19996946
Why die for your ideals when you can live to see them bear fruit and make the world seethe?

[Anonymous No.19997001]

>>19995908
>He kept a copy of the Bhagavad Gita on his bedside table and recommended it to all his SS men

That might be one of the explanations for why

> 90% of the SS were less effective than the regular wehrmacht

[Anonymous No.19997012]

>>19996996
Cause Nazis don’t want to win. They want to end the world and for everyone to die. Never read the Turner diaries?

[Anonymous No.19997019]

>>19996973
Knowing the truth solves everything. Understanding that (((feminism))) is not the same as what Goebbels described is important. Women follow authority, hence women in Natsoc Germany were good.

[Anonymous No.19997024]

>>19997012
Nope, I've only bothered to read original fascist/national socialist literature and don't have time to include neonazi fanfic on the list

[Anonymous No.19997037]

>>19997024
every time you post about your dead political system on /lit/ it's fanfiction

[Anonymous No.19997041]

>>19996800
When did the indians defeat Alexander? I'm pretty sure it was a decisive victory for Alexander at hydaspes before he had to return because of the threat of mutiny and the stretching of his supply lines.

[Anonymous No.19997042]

>>19997037
But I don't post about communism on /lit/ anon

[Anonymous No.19997043]

>>19997019
That’s nice but the Nazis were the major reason that led to this mess in the west by being blatant suicidal losers with no thought for the future and the consequences of their actions. Of course losers like you will admire losers. It’s only natural. You will try to imitate them and then end up losing and then end up wondering why you lost.

[Anonymous No.19997083]

>>19996900
Im not >>19996745 but from my observation, christians and jews are pretty much identical, it took me a long time to understand the reasons why the christians hated jews, but once I knew, I realised that these are the same reasons for which I hate the christians.

[Anonymous No.19997088]

>>19997041
I said they were able to field them. After Alexander defeats Porus, his army refuses to cross, on intelligence that the next Indian ruler across the Ganges has thousands of elephants and many more men. And this information was likely accurate because when the Mauryan dynasty rules India a generation later they are able to defeat the Macedonian Seleucids in India and as part of the treaty take those provinces Alexander had subdued, and also provide a gift of 500 war elephants, which are later brought with Seleucus to the Battle of Ipsus to fight the other diadochi in Asia Minor. There is an excellent book on Classical era sources of Indian history and society, India and the Hellenistic World, by Klaus Karttunen.

[Anonymous No.19997107]

>>19997043
>I root for whichever team wins. I have no allegiance to virtue, my life belongs to the victors

[Anonymous No.19997114]

>>19996987
>people committing suicide to escape soviet brutality means that fascism is the death cult
you're that /his/tranny that won't shut the fuck up about his death cult "thesis"

[Anonymous No.19997124]

>>19997083
>christians and jews are pretty much identical

Says the nazi sympathiser, believer of the master race

> "If there is one outstanding quality in Hitlerism it is its Hebraism" and "the new Nordic Man has all the worst faults of the worst Jews: jealousy, greed, the mania of conspiracy, and above all, the belief in a Chosen Race."

[Anonymous No.19997136]

>>19997107
Nazis don’t have any virtue unless being good at killing women and children is virtuous

[Anonymous No.19997139]

>>19997043
amazing how many elaborate ways people have of coping with defeat - "I can't possibly root for them, they lost! In fact, its THEIR FAULT!"
Utterly spineless

[Anonymous No.19997144]

>>19997136
>Nazis don’t have any virtue unless being good at killing women and children is virtuous

[Anonymous No.19997146]

>>19997136
>i view the world as a comic-book narrative: the post

[Anonymous No.19997151]

>>19997083
Christians have hated Jews for purely religious reasons just as they hated heretics, pagans and Muslims for religious reasons. So you hate Christians for purely religious reasons then?

[Anonymous No.19997159]

>>19997151
Not him but yes, I would like my holy trees back please

[Anonymous No.19997182]

>it's a "seething christrannies shit up a thread that has nothing to do with them" episode
so when do the zoomers move on to their next larp? this one's getting really boring

[Anonymous No.19997191]

>>19997139
> NO WHY AREN’T YOU STUCK IN THE PAST LIKE ME, FANTASISING ABOUT LOSERS NOT BEING LOSERS????

Reminds me of what Orwell said

> Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should

[Anonymous No.19997203]

>>19997182
I’m actually atheist but I still like to piss off LARPers.

[Anonymous No.19997204]

>>19997191
>orwell
fag, your quote screams /his/fag
>i am completely unwilling to challenge any of the fundamental mythos that our disaster of a society is built on

[Anonymous No.19997221]

>>19997204
>our disaster of a society
It's never been good. Grow up

[Anonymous No.19997227]

>>19997221
kys tranny

[Anonymous No.19997235]

>>19997139
Name one loser in history that many people still genuinely and eagerly root for today. Carthage? Napoleon? Achaemenid Persia? Gauls?

[Anonymous No.19997245]

>>19997151
I dont know enough of their religious practices to comment on, but I do know that I must distance myself from them purely from past experiences.

[Anonymous No.19997249]

>>19997235
most people don't know who any of those are

[Anonymous No.19997254]

>>19997204
> unwilling to challenge any of the fundamental mythos that our disaster of a society is built on

What mythos is that? If you allow racists demagogues to take power then they will immediately start killing minorities?

[Anonymous No.19997259]

>>19997254
just stay on /his/ i think it is more up to your speed

[Anonymous No.19997261]

>>19997227
You will never be a brahmin

[Anonymous No.19997263]

>>19995908
>Bhagavad Gita
I can't take the religion of street shitters seriously

[Anonymous No.19997337]

>>19997259
So why weren’t nazi content with what they had? They got back the Saarland, Austria and Czechoslovakia. No one declared war on them despite breaking treaties and promises. They had their 99.9% pure Aryan homeland with the Jews expelled.

Why not settle down? What’s there to fear? Especially now that we know that Soviets being communists were economically destined to perish or become nationalist capitalists like modern China. If the allies misjudged the future of our disaster society by fighting the Nazis then the Nazis equally miscalculated by not being content with what they had.

[Anonymous No.19997352]

>>19997337
i'd say mein kampf would answer your question but i don't think you have the critical thinking skills to actually gleam anything from it

[Anonymous No.19997355]

>>19997337
Schmitt's Nomos of the Earth is about this. You are thinking too much within the framework of nation states and not within the meta-framework of geopolitics which uses whole political conceptions themselves as pawns to create geopolitical outcomes. The British Empire for example knew how to play around with giving people "national status" while keeping them de facto dependent on much realer, more "actual" geopolitical factors (mainly economic dependence).

The Anglo-American establishment that grew out of the British Empire, and parasitized and coopted both the British and American "nations" by regarding them as convenient (and always provisional) metropoles for a world empire predicated on liquid capital and an invisible cabal of financial elites, understood this principle even better.

Germany came to understand it so Germany had to be destroyed. Russia for example in the current system is allowed, even encouraged to accept life as a "nation," which de facto means a nation within the global economic system dominated by London and New York bankers who still treat England and America as convenient bases for educating their elite children, but otherwise as latifundia for disposable and merely tolerated hordes of serfs.

This elite actively promotes the reduction and destruction of the citizenry of the countries they INHABIT (outside of curated zones where they still reside, usually around elite universities). Imagine what they do to countries they don't inhabit, and which they have every interest in reducing to the lowest level of obedient deracinated serfdom.

Then imagine what they'd do to a country who even dimly senses this process is being applied to them too, that it's worming its way into their body politic and eroding the health of their citizenry, under the auspices of "what? it's just normal liberal economics, like you do too!" Once the Germans began noticing that these "normal" economics were only one way of doing economics, a way that always led, de facto, to British-American financial elite tyranny and the parasitization of the target nation, they tried to find a different system. In their case it was an agrarian system, a Fortress Europa that could survive the constant threat of economic and maritime encirclement by a much richer world empire (wearing several "national" empires as boxing mitts).

[Anonymous No.19997362]

>>19997355
>could survive the constant threat of economic and maritime encirclement by a much richer world empire
kek, all that effortpost and they still lost... "could" indeed

[Anonymous No.19997370]

>>19997362
are you polish?

[Anonymous No.19997372]

>>19997370
No

[Anonymous No.19997384]

>>19997355
saved

[Anonymous No.19997392]

>>19997355
Blah blah motherfucker. All this bullshit and excuses. Isn’t Japan 99% Japanese? What economic system is it apart of?

[Anonymous No.19997401]

>>19997144
>>19997146
t. subversive antinomian luciferian trannies

[Anonymous No.19997424]

>>19995908
start practicing hatha yoga

[Anonymous No.19997425]

>>19997355
I see so their whole policy was a “preventive war” but like Bismarck said preventive war is like committing suicide out of fear of death.

Also they knew the Anglo-American establishment and the Soviets were firmly against them yet they still risked it all? They truly were idiots.

[Anonymous No.19997426]

>>19997182
Every single time someone posts this reaction image, and without fail, whines and moans like a 15 year old girl.

[Anonymous No.19997441]

>>19995908
>Alien autism comes across as alien autism instead of the best thing since sliced bread and better than any wife or love
Why are Christcucks like this? Seriously believe to be a divergent species I've only been putting up with bullshit my whole life pretending to fit in with them.
Fucking Celsus quote man of the big fag dumb retard effeminate club hits the note but still I'm left astonished how can they say shit tastes like chocolate?

[Anonymous No.19997446]

>>19997182
>>it's a "seething christrannies shit up a thread that has nothing to do with them" episode
>he says in a thread that opens up with a provocative and inflammatory diatribe against Christians for no real reason
Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.19997452]

>>19997426
Stop being a faggot and I'll stop complaining.

[Anonymous No.19997457]

>>19997144
>Women and children
>Flea mothers and flea eggs

[Anonymous No.19997467]

>>19996808
That's hot

[Anonymous No.19997472]

>>19996873
Those are Roman Temples in emo Drag circumcised with gothic ugliness. ProtoBrutalism.

[Anonymous No.19997475]

>>19997043
Notice how neither of these two people
>>19997107
>>19997139
attempted to refute or even deny the claim that Nazis led to the decay of the West, only taking offense to the notion of being failures.

[Anonymous No.19997485]

>>19997425
Actually they were even more unimaginably stupid than that.

This is what happens when you try to suddenly and completely uproot Christian morality like the Nazis did in a civilisation that had held to Christian morality for over a thousand years and had only in the previous century abolished slavery. They could have been gradual and not so extreme at once, but they messed up. Christians were ideologically smarter. They didn’t suddenly say to pagans ‘now you must become a pacifist like Jesus.’ They didn’t try to uproot pagan morality at once so as to not create a reaction against them, but the Nazis instantly resorted to the most extreme options.

Didn’t Nazis know the basic laws of our world? For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The action of Nazis were extreme so the opposite reaction was extreme.

[Anonymous No.19997499]

>>19997472
Roman temples didn’t even have glass windows or pointed arches, so no, they are nothing like Roman temples at all.

[Anonymous No.19997500]

>>19997485
>>19997475
you are not arguing in good faith, you admitted yourself don't even believe the west is decaying. You are not willing to actually partake in a mature discussion.
/his/fag christcucks like yourself are so repulsive - "might makes right" throws you into a smug tirade of "yeah but you lost so i guess that makes you wrong", and yet you don't see how this is a contradiction at all.

[Anonymous No.19997522]

>>19997499
>Pointy arch
>Inconceivable from an arch
Yeah you're a faggot with no buttress
Stained glass is a cool alchemy find though.

[Anonymous No.19997523]

>>19997500
I don’t subscribe to nazi morality, but since you do, I will judge you by your own standards.

[Anonymous No.19997533]

>>19997523
He just did the same right back at you and he could win another day but you could not reclaim eternal truth after yourself proving it false in the expedient might is right tangent. If anything it just makes you a mighty sophisticated liar with eternally backstabbing insurrection being cooled down with more lies.

[Anonymous No.19997547]

>>19997485
>They didn’t try to uproot pagan morality at once so as to not create a reaction against them
Ah but they did—What do you think "martyrdom" was? It was suicide by Roman cop.

[Anonymous No.19997555]

>>19997500
>>19997533

Devil’s advocate?

[Anonymous No.19997570]

>>19997500
>>19997533
There is no one encouraging a "might makes right" ethos, we're pointing out your blatant neuroses and exposing it for what it truly is. Notice how you continue to peruse the criticism of failure, in spite of having every opportunity to turn it on its head or debunk it.

[Anonymous No.19997580]

>>19997107
Why shouldn't we point out the failures of Nazis, exactly? They promised a revitalized Europe, a new Europe with a goal, a new Europe that can tackle all the issues of modernity, and yet instead they brought only chaos and disarray to the World.

[Anonymous No.19997610]

>>19997570
except you have done nothing but yell "you lost you lost you lost!" over and over in this thread. Germany lost because it was in an untenable geopolitical situation, no amount of ideology can change that. There's a reason hitler wrote so much about living space - unfortunately a concept that 99% of people only gleam as "evidence he wanted to start ww2 and kill people", remaining ignorant of its actual significance. Because people like yourself are only looking for witty retorts you will think endlessly on the topic and learn almost nothing.

>>19997580
because nazi germany existed in a vaccuum and Britain, America and the Soviet Union bear no responsibility in retarding their efforts at achieving any of that?

[Anonymous No.19997636]

>>19997610
>because nazi germany existed in a vaccuum and Britain, America and the Soviet Union bear no responsibility in retarding their efforts at achieving any of that?
Is it not Hitler himself who attempted to make direct appeals to the British? Not that Churchill would ever consider deferring hegemony to the savage German people mind you, but Hitler's myopia couldn't see that. I'll say it again - who promised a revitalized Europe?

[Anonymous No.19997645]

>>19997636
am i meant to answer that? what? i think you need to take your meds

[Anonymous No.19997661]

>>19997645
Passive-aggressive effeminate loser.

[Anonymous No.19997705]

>>19997661
you are blabbling nonsensically

[Anonymous No.19997718]

>>19997705
>it's nonsense because it destroys my fantasy of nazi germany being a utopia until those anglo and russian bastards ruined it
You're coping so hard.

[Anonymous No.19997757]

>>19997718
ok sweetie, you won the internet argument, here's your (you)!

[Anonymous No.19997875]

>>19995908
hello sirs yes I love israel more than most christians yes sirs bob pls

[Anonymous No.19997884]

>>19995914
Um excuse me sweaty but India was ruled by white Aryans when the Bhagavad Gita was written.

[Anonymous No.19997894]

The Aryans looked like the average Kavkaz resident does nowaday, not a blue haired blonde eyed Swede.

[Anonymous No.19997916]

>>19997894
They look reasonably hwhite to me.