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Have you read this before? How did you find it?

>> No.1999189
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Started reading, I can't stand the pretentious know-it-all tone in it. I much prefer Fredy Perlman or Wolfi Landstreicher when it comes to wanting to burn this world.
Came across it cause I'm an anarchist, and it's for some reason (probably Glen Beck) big in anarchist circles.

>> No.1999211

>>1999189

>I can't stand the pretentious know-it-all tone in it.

Really? I felt the opposite, that it was written really childishly. I remember there being a lot of bitching about school, stuff like that.

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>> No.1999240

My dad gave me a copy because he watched Glenn Beck and wants me to "know thy enemy." He's read The Communist Manifesto, Rules for Radicals and every other entry-level kiddie-revolutionary text that conservafags know about.

I haven't read it and I have too many likely better books on my shelf to ever get around to it.

>> No.1999255

>>1999237

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>>1999240
>The Communist Manifesto
>entry-level kiddie-revolutionary text

>> No.1999310

>>1999237

This comic is very amusing. It implies that anarchism and communism have always been opposed and that's not true. Hilarious.

>> No.1999321

>>1999240
Get dat nigga to read some Gramsci. His mind = blown.

>captcha
>political eandsolo
IT KNOWS

>> No.1999325

Read fiction.

>> No.1999333

>>1999310
Well, it implies that anarchists and Marxists have their differences, including a history of killing each other, like in the Spanish Civil War. I've definitely heard each speaking very derisively about the other. Of course they're compatible in many ways, but they definitely have their issues with each other.

>> No.1999341

>>1999310
Just because two factions are on the same end of the political spectrum or are a part of a wider group (anarchists and communists, for example) doesn't mean they are always going to agree with each other. You have collectivist anarchists, egoist anarchists, anarcho-capitalists, authoritarian communists, libertarian socialists, etc.

>> No.1999366

>>1999341

Anarcho-capitalists aren't even really anarchists, though.

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>>1999366

>> No.1999417

>>1999368

Even by their own logic it's true. To an ancap, anything less than pure capitalism is socialism. "anarcho"-capitalism is pure capitalism. So it's at least redundant to prefix it with anarcho- if you don't recognize anything less as capitalism.

>> No.2000937

>>1999368

lol it'll be interesting to see what a shitstorm looks like on /lit/

>> No.2000941

>>2000937
people posting ad-hominem every few hours

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>>2000941

>> No.2000985

>>2000941
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

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>>2000941

I just meant because the board is so slow.

>> No.2001203

>>1999366
Anarchist capitalism would be the ultimately liberalized capitalism though. No general incorporation, no hierarchy of power. Just producer and consumer.

>> No.2001220

>>2001203

right, because it's possible to ascribe those societal roles to people without a state. You just have to have an unquestioned class dictatorship and not acknowledge it's the same thing.

>> No.2001251

>>2001220
you're right

i guess i was imagining a non-hierarchical capitalism enforced by the state

>> No.2001261

>>2001251

Don't worry kid, you were just imagining a utopia, but, even as far as the impractical notion of utopia goes, rather ineptly.

capitalism is undemocratic

and evil

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>2011
>still believe in myths such as "social roles" and use primitive savage things such as "hierarchy"

oh humans, when will you ever learn?

>> No.2001322

no, what is it about

>>1999240
LOL

>> No.2001328

testing

>> No.2001331

it's actually really good

i like it a lot as it's clearly carrying on the tradition started by guy debord and the situationists

and you know the people who wrote it actually practised what they preached, which is what we need at the moment

>> No.2001347

>>2001309

Are you saying there's no hierarchy?

>> No.2001354

>>2001347
I think he/she's saying there's no NEED for it, and it's 2011, and we're still using it. In every aspect of our lives no doubt.

>> No.2001358

>>2001354

I don't know if I'd want an anarchist commune running a nuclear power plant.