/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.19979425]

Books to help me understand what is going on with Russia?

[Anonymous No.19979447]

Darkness at Dawn: The Rise of the Russian Criminal State
Russia without Putin: Power, Politics and the Making of Post-Soviet Society

Modern Russia is a result of the west promoting "shock therapy" capitalism and rejecting Russia gestures of friendship. In the early 90s Russians wanted to be part of the liberal internationalist US-led bloc of developed states. The downfall of that idea was caused by the west’s rejection of Russia’s repeated proposals to join Nato, followed by Washington’s promotion of “colour revolutions” in Georgia and Ukraine in 2003 and 2004.

[Anonymous No.19979453]

>>19979447
>The idea of Russia becoming a NATO member has at different times been floated by both Western and Russian leaders, as well as some experts. No serious discussions were ever held.

[Anonymous No.19979458]

Lord of the Flies

[Anonymous No.19979468]

>>19979425
Insane old megalomaniac making one last grasp at world historical status... Ubu Roi

[Anonymous No.19979479]

>>19979425
The history of literally any empire

>buckle due to internal stress
>fragment
>desperately try to claw back what it lost
>sharts itself and implodes

[Anonymous No.19979480]

>>19979479
not america

[Anonymous No.19979484]

>>19979480
burgerville probably has at least another 100 years before it becomes too fat

[Anonymous No.19979491]

The Piratization of Russia: Russian Reform Goes Awry

>>19979453
>quoting wikipedia

[Anonymous No.19979493]

>>19979447
Modern Russian is the result of the communists and oligarchs not being shot before they could retain power again under Putin. The "West" is only blamed because Putin and Russian nationalists need a scapegoat for their collapsing shit hole of a country. You retards really think people like Russia when its always been an empire that has cannibalized its neighbors. Russia's current actions is just more proof we need to start killing even more communists and Russian nationalist. Just straight up lynch them.

[Anonymous No.19979516]

any books that will describe and help me understand what was going on in russia and the former sowjetcountries in the first couple of years after the udssr was killed?

[Anonymous No.19979520]

>>19979493
Based

[Anonymous No.19979524]

For those who don't have the time to read a whole book on the question:
https://jaccusepaper.substack.com/p/everything-you-wanted-to-know-about

[Anonymous No.19979526]

>>19979524
>ends with two lines from Yeats
holy fucking based. while looking at everything that's been going down all i've been thinking is
>The best lack all conviction, and the worst
>Are full of passionate intensity

[Anonymous No.19979537]

Putin's own University Thesis is the logical place to start since it'll give you a insight into what his economic priorities are >>19979316
I can't find the book, but there was a former Russian Strategist who 'looked like Mr. Bean' who wrote a few books on 'Non-Linear War'... I can't for the life of me remember the guy's name but he was unusual in Putin's circles for being very publicity-hungry. Non-linear war represents a paradigm shift in how wars are fraught and explains the Russian strategy of backing separatist republics like South Ossetia, Transnistria or the Ukranian territories in the news.
If you really want to understand it, just look at North Korea.
Why the fuck does China put up with an unhinged hermit kingdom with nuclear aspirations right on it's doorstep...
...because the alternative of having a united Korea with tens of thousands of American troops right on it's doorstep is much worse. Kenny would agree, he almost nuked the Soviets when they put missles in Cuba.
>>19979468
He's asking about Russia, not Joe Biden

[Anonymous No.19979547]

>>19979537
*Kennedy obviously, "soviets" and "Cuba" should make that obvious.

[Anonymous No.19979640]

>>19979537
>Why the fuck does China put up with an unhinged hermit kingdom with nuclear aspirations right on it's doorstep...because the alternative of having a united Korea with tens of thousands of American troops right on it's doorstep is much worse.

Good point my dude. I have a professor at my uni who's famous for developing a new theory of geopolitics (at least the Wiki for the theory lists his name first) and writing a best-selling book that went against the "American hegemony is good and here to last" grain after the Cold War. He got a lot of shit in the 90's for being one of the only saying Ukraine shouldn't give up its nukes. So now people have been giving him more attention. I'm saying as much as I can without giving away his name. He teaches one course at my college so I want to be somewhat discrete but he's not too hard to find.
He was on a podcast recently (this is where I finally get to my point lol) saying NK has a lot of leverage over China, and can get away with whatever it wants because China needs a strong NK since (as you said) an American-backed united Korea would essentially give us a permanent upper hand over China. Think of a parallel with Mexico or Canada except that would be impossible. The fall of NK be a dream scenario for any Cold War-like situation. And the fall of NK can best be avoided by getting nukes - which my prof also said on the podcast is a reasonable imperative for any country wishing to fight regime change. And trust me, a regime overthrow in NK would be amazing for the US, South Korea, Japan, and broadly the rest of the world. (Only disagreement with you is that NK is unhinged. They put up that image but they're very calculated. They have the support of China to protect them and the leverage of nukes to keep other countries scared. Unfortunately they haven't learned how to feed their own people yet despite all the money they get from China.)

[Anonymous No.19979652]

>>19979425
You don't really need a book just look at the people leading the country and it's pretty easy to figure things out

[Anonymous No.19979660]

>>19979425

[Anonymous No.19979665]

>>19979537
>Russian Strategist who 'looked like Mr. Bean'
kek. vladislav surkov?

[Anonymous No.19979759]

>>19979425
my immortal

[Anonymous No.19979858]

>>19979665
YES! thank you! He's the one. Although googling him it sounds like he's been resoundingly dumped by the Kremlin.
>>19979640
>He got a lot of shit in the 90's for being one of the only saying Ukraine shouldn't give up its nukes.
Funny how the chickens come home to roost
>Only disagreement with you is that NK is unhinged.
Nah you're right and that's fair, I was trying to convey more how they aren't obedient vassals of China, not alluding to the "hehe that Kim Jong is so cwazy" because as you say they are very calculated. They know how to play international media.

[Anonymous No.19979879]

>>19979425
Also ellul

[Anonymous No.19979891]

>>19979425

[Anonymous No.19979902]

>>19979891
>mrw its real

[Anonymous No.19979903]

Russia's conducting peacekeeping missions in regions on its border that houses a significant Russian minority and which Ukrainian ethnonationalist battalions desperate for eradicating the untermensch prowl around. People only dismiss Putin's peacekeeping claims because the West only cares to see Russia either balkanized into irrelevancy or entirely shut out and ignored from global systems. Just like how they treat China, westoids fear and wish to eradicate that which is different to them. Liberalism's facade-prioritization of diversity is just meant to invoke warm fuzzy feelings in these impulse-driven people - in reality, if it doesnt walk and talk like a westerner, it shouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.19979915]

>>19979903
Hahaha, fucking Russian nationalists using Hitler's arguments now. Putin literally just gave a speech saying Ukraine has no right to exist because it was created by Lenin and Stalin stupidity. The bullshit you're spewing isn't going to work. Every one knows Russians are just criminals and liars.

[Anonymous No.19979925]

>>19979903
I don’t get posts like these. Obviously the west does not like centralised powers which is why NATO exists to prevent its members from getting annexed by Russia, it’s the weak point of liberal democracy, you are extremely vulnerable to countries that aren’t bogged down by voting, like seriously no shit

[Anonymous No.19979946]

>>19979516
Please help

[Anonymous No.19979956]

>>19979915
Rich to hear you accuse Russians of Nazi-like dreams when the Black fucking Sun is in the insignia of officially incorporated battalions of Ukraine like Azov here.

[Anonymous No.19979981]

>>19979493
>The "West" is only blamed because Putin and Russian nationalists need a scapegoat
https://youtu.be/93eyhO8VTdg
Americans don't even bat an eye as John McCain and the head of the CIA are hanging out in Kiev lmao
we spend hundreds of millions on propaganda there, all of this instigation is by the US

how bad at pattern recognition do you need to be to not see what America does from Vietnam to Afghanistan

[Anonymous No.19979998]

>>19979447
The globalists tried to rape and rob Russia in the 90s, that's what the Yeltsin years were about. They are fucking furious that Putin put a stop to it and is restoring Russian national dignity and political interests.

It so amusing to see all of the mass media propaganda about the matter. Everyone from Stacey to Stephen King is explaining how the Russians are evil and god is on our side on twitter and CNN. Exactly the same way they explained the War on Terror, look how that ended. The average human being has no self awareness. In effect, they are not human. The time is coming, and so am I.

[Anonymous No.19980003]

>>19979946
learn to read the thread, zoomzoom

[Anonymous No.19980038]

>>19979493
fuck off back to hell John McCain

[Anonymous No.19980046]

On the Road by Anton Chekhov.

[Anonymous No.19980077]

>>19980003
I asked for books about a different time/event asswhore

[Anonymous No.19980120]

>>19979493
>communists
Karl Marx was German and communism is a German idea. Idiot.
Furthermore, China also has communists and oligarchs, and it is a dictatorship too just like Russia is.

>Kill Russian/Chinese nationalist
Can't argue with that.

[Anonymous No.19980132]

>ctrl+f
>shock therapy
>1 result
I am incredibly surprised. Most people don't have the first clue when they talk about this subject.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early#_ednref8

Is recommended reading for anyone who cares. There's dozens of declassified documents that prove the Soviets were given constant verbal agreements that NATO wouldn't expand beyond the Elbe river. Only a Russian is dumb enough to trust a Jew, kek.

[Anonymous No.19980141]

>>19979447
How is Klebnikov's Godfather of the Kremlin? Saw it shilled other places and it looked good.

[Anonymous No.19980142]

>>19979425
Dugin

[Anonymous No.19980145]

>>19979425
> what is going on with Russia?
https://youtu.be/APPjVlUA-gs
/thread

[Anonymous No.19980153]

>>19979425
He's taking back what's his.

[Anonymous No.19980174]

>>19979425
>If Russia were a place where Pride parades were allowed, its quarrels with the United States, and ours with it, would possibly diminish
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/06/28/what-does-a-pride-parade-have-to-do-with-nato-more-than-you-might-think/

[Anonymous No.19980191]

>>19979425
Ukraine was always a symbol of western kleptocratic gynocracy. It was always a joke; the leadership was literally installed by a western-backed coup; Victoria Nuland was recorded on phone bragging about installing members of parliament. This is a humiliation for the GAE. Bizarre American propaganda about mulatto child soldiers, lesbian 40 year old HR "combat training," bellicose rhetoric backed by shrill screams of female "defense ministers" all over the west. This is utterly humiliating. Its the road to delegitimizing every western regime. every single LGBT promoting, white-genocide advocating insane European leader has been put on watch here; your bullshit is effete, pathetic and completely based in a society and culture that prevents men from asserting their natural dominance

[Anonymous No.19980225]

>>19979425
>what is going on with Russia?

CHINGCHONGAIDSSNIFFGLUERIEPRIEPRIEP

[Anonymous No.19980226]

>>19979425
How based does it feel to be Orthodox rn?? The West is about to have it's Babylonian head decapitated by the Russian Orthodox Emperor and all the West can do is fecklessly hiss as its final seconds arrive. Begome!

[Anonymous No.19980234]

>>19980191
let's wait for the result of the conflict
unless Russia is going lightly on purpose, their advance so far is a joke

[Anonymous No.19980239]

>>19979493
So more like what the US did in Iraq? Ya, that would of led to much better results

[Anonymous No.19980267]

>>19980226
>>>/pol/
or the retirement home, depending on the case

[Anonymous No.19980270]

>>19980226
>killing your neighbors
Very based. Very christian

[Anonymous No.19980285]

>>19979537
>Kenny would agree,
OMG they nuked Kenny!

[Anonymous No.19980287]

>>19979425
Prisoners of Geography. Chapter 1 explains exactly why Russia is doing what it's doing. warm water

[Anonymous No.19980288]

only dugin, unironically

[Anonymous No.19980302]

>>19980226
>pic rel
Stop trying to turn Orthodoxy into some capeshit, larpoid

[Anonymous No.19980305]

Basically putin decided to invade ukraine because biden isnt going to do shit about it besides sanctions and sternly written letters.

[Anonymous No.19980319]

>>19980305
What else should he do?

[Anonymous No.19980323]

>>19979759
based

[Anonymous No.19980328]

>>19980302
Actually it’s LOTR, the Kremlin is Mordor and Putin is supposed to be Sauron.
Westoids are so brainwashed they literally think Russia is the devil and are scared shitless lmao.

[Anonymous No.19980332]

NATO left Putin no choice.
If Westoids didn’t have such retarded foreign policy they’d realize that antagonizing others is the worst way to get people on your side.

[Anonymous No.19980333]

>>19979425
Israel and Jews are a problem to the West.
Not Russia or Iran.

[Anonymous No.19980350]

>>19980333
Westoids are afraid of Russia but they have no problem with their greatest ally being a racist, sexist, theocratic apartheid settler state with nukes.

[Anonymous No.19980354]

>>19979998
War endures

[Anonymous No.19980368]

>>19980350
What's funny is many geopolitical analysts have come out and said Samson Option is a real problem. Sometimes I think Jews channeled demons into their own ethnic group. No other race of people would consider anything like Samson Option. I bet everyone would get nuked if Israel truly felt threatened (e.g., Greece cause of "muh Hanukah", Germany cause of "muh Holocaust", Iran because of "muh Purim", Egypt, etc.)

[Anonymous No.19980391]

>>19980350
Russia is just a paper tiger army sustained by a broken economy. They will never defeat NATO in a conventional war and that's what we are afraid of: to be force to unleash our uttermost power and eradicate Russia off the map because they left us no choice.

[Anonymous No.19980393]

>>19980226
>two orthoducks countries fighting over warm water ports
>le heckin based restoration of tardition
I'm curious as to what religion you 'were' last month

[Anonymous No.19980400]

>>19980391
Modern warfare will see NATO nations fucked as well if they go far enough that Russia is eradicated. Nature of the beast

[Anonymous No.19980402]

>>19979425
Hegel

[Anonymous No.19980406]

>>19980391
They don't have to defeat NATO in a conventional war, just diplomatic and cyber, and having secured the neutrality of the major non-NATO states goes a long way on that front. Also NATO is probably as geriatric as the USSR was in the 1980s. Look at what happened in Afghanistan

[Anonymous No.19980445]

>>19980191
The western system can fund operations infinitely longer than the Russian one. Twenty years in Afghanistan without achieving a single objective, not one. Imagine having that kind of power that you are able to wantonly dispose of in a pompous flourish of expenditure and entirely shrug it off as if nothing happened, and get excited for the next war. The Russians have occupied a few districts here and there in eastern Europe for the last decade or so that also border them anyway, but if the US wanted to it could build a military base with 100,000 soldiers tomorrow across its ocean in Estonia, and the Russians would have to watch. Then it could plop down another one in Poland. The US can fund at least two large scale deployments; the Russians are primarily in a defensive position and can only nibble.

[Anonymous No.19980501]

>>19980445
What an accursed share!

[Anonymous No.19980546]

>>19979493
I so wish the red army lost.

[Anonymous No.19980548]

>>19980445
>The western system can fund operations infinitely longer than the Russian one.
Destroying their air fields is one of the most important steps they just took. If Ukraine had a working airport, they would be getting hundreds of billions of dollars of military equipment flying in from several Western countries. It would essentially be a proxy war, US vs Russia and Putin said no, get the fuck out don’t try any of that bullshit. A lot of Ukrainian units are undersupplied as it is too.
>but if the US wanted to it could build a military base with 100,000 soldiers tomorrow across its ocean in Estonia.
Exactly, Russia was pretty tame until the West started offering NATO memberships in the East, that is entirely their fault for being so aggressive foreign policy wise. Now that Russia is grabbing the east of Ukraine (The population that wants to be absorbed into Russia) making diplomatic decisions is harder because this a fight on European soil since god knows how long. The United States won’t do shit military wise but hit them with dollar store sanctions, if it was Taiwan I could see direct US intervention.

[Anonymous No.19980554]

>>19979425
Rusputin.

[Anonymous No.19980557]

>>19980319
According to neocons, "spread democracy" to Ukraine and Russia

[Anonymous No.19980560]

This article for why you shouldnt care

[Anonymous No.19980568]

>>19979981
>>19980038
Get better talking points, RT. Nobody cares what you Assad, Maduro and Castro defending fucks say.

[Anonymous No.19980589]

>>19980568
What did Maduro ever do besides not be the shiteating Guaido hand-picked by Trump to be """le REAL LEADER"""? Venezuela didn't choose to have the worlds largest oil reserves, and the West can't stop their thieving kike hands from trying to mold what isn't theirs.

[Anonymous No.19980633]

For all of his complaints that he lists in pic related had America "done something about it", we'd be in WW3 for every scenario he listed. He wants to start WW3 to feel tough and big and leave the rest of us holding the shitbag of consequences while he most likely flies off to Tel Aviv.

[Anonymous No.19980638]

>>19980501
Based
>>19980548
>a fight on European soil since god knows how long
About twenty years since NATO bombed Serbia actually.

[Anonymous No.19980643]

>>19979537
>economic priorities

this is what i've been thinking about, Putin knew that sanctions were going to be implemented, yet he's going along with it anyway. What is his endgame?

[Anonymous No.19980646]

>>19980633
>but but but China PROMISED the queen of England they'd allow Hong Kong to be a democracy for a few decades
Always cracks me up that people don't read the fine print

[Anonymous No.19980648]

>>19980633
Great, so when is this Kikes 10 kids going to be shipped?

[Anonymous No.19980654]

>>19980643
It's a real estate transaction. There is a price to pay for Ukraine and Putin agrees to it. The US hasn't bought land in a hundred years so present-day Americans literally don't understand the Russians or why they are doing this

[Anonymous No.19980659]

>>19980633
Don't you see that is the problem? Nobody in the West cares enough about anything anymore to fight a war for it. You think Britain would have let off Hitler's Germany with "sanctions"?

[Anonymous No.19980665]

>>19980659
Britain gave up its entire empire to defeat Germany and had to be bailed out by the United States. Certainly a cautionary tale

[Anonymous No.19980667]

>>19980659
>zoomers don't want to fight, or even care unless it affects their fun.
>the people media has been bashing for a decade don't want to fight.
>illegals being pumped to western countries won't fight, but they'll keep sucking the welfare tit
>women suddenly don't want equal treatment to avoid fighting
>trannies only signed up for the dick chopping surgery and drugs
quite the pickle elites have put themselves into

I think it's obvious now to zoomies that if you keep pushing woke bullshit and there is a war you're fucked. Suddenly having someone strong-headed like Trump doesn't seem so bad instead of "innocent" grandpa Biden.

[Anonymous No.19980675]

>>19980659
It’s not a problem, it’s the natural reaction.
Why should Westerners care about what happens in Afghanistan, Hong Kong or Ukraine?
No one wants to stick their neck out for the interests of the technooligarchs and rightfully so.
People care about their lives, their families and their countries, not about wether bankers and companies will lose money.

[Anonymous No.19980677]

>>19979537
Biden's so far past it he's more like King Lear or the husband in Beckett's Happy Days. Putin doesn't want to die a long-term steward or place holder. He probably has terminal cancer desu (face is looking mad swollen either Beverly Hills Housewife style or Norm MacDonald cancer drug style, either way it's comical.)

[Anonymous No.19980679]

>>19980667
Trump would have sold out Ukraine WITHOUT causing a financial/energy crisis. Really the only difference.

[Anonymous No.19980681]

>>19980659
>Don't you see that is the problem? Nobody in the West cares enough about anything anymore to fight a war for it.
Of all the things that are worth fighting and possibly dying for, bureaucrats in penthouses are ranked pretty low. No matter if American or Russian.

[Anonymous No.19980685]

>>19980665
>Britain gave up its entire empire
Considering they thought they could beat Germany in a month the Anglos got fucked hard even the when they “won”, it destroyed them on the international stage because Germany international humiliated them by kicking them out of Europe once France fell. It was either take a non-aggression pack and back off or become America’s Thrall and keep fighting.

[Anonymous No.19980688]

>>19980665
Whatever the cause may be, the West is no longer willing to defend itself or its position on the world stage. Shapiro in that pic is right. Putin is doing this precisely because he knows the West will not retaliate. 2014 was just testing the waters. He must have been planning this for years. And he could not have been gifted a more golden opportunity than the senile geriatric Joe Biden getting into the White House.

[Anonymous No.19980695]

you should ask here

>>>/vg/373956545

[Anonymous No.19980701]

>>19980667
>The Youth.

[Anonymous No.19980705]

>>19980659
Good. i hope zoomies continue to do jack shit about geopolitcal banker-lord games.

[Anonymous No.19980710]

>>19980679
How? Trump would have been a little more harder, did you see what he did do Iran?

[Anonymous No.19980712]

>>19980667
I'd fight if it were against Israel and do war crimes like decapitate their children and cut off the breasts of their women. It would be pretty based, no lie.
I'm all for killing people who deserve it like the Jews.

[Anonymous No.19980714]

>>19980688
>defending the West’s interests
You outsourced our industrial base, deregulated the financial markets, flooded the country with immigrants, gutted the welfare system, privatized everything, destroyed education but now you suddenly care about the West’s interests?
Lmao, no one cares about this political puppet show, everyone knows it’s the interests of the international bankers and the global 1% you care about.

[Anonymous No.19980716]

>>19980659
not my problem

[Anonymous No.19980721]

>>19980633
Ben Shapiro actually being right about something. Surreal

[Anonymous No.19980722]

>>19980688
The Russians have a thousand year history and view an independent Ukraine as a sort of abberation, even if there were no other geopolitical concerns. If Russia is China and the US is Japan, then Ukraine is Manchuria. It shouldn't be separated as far as Russia is concerned, and that it is, is only due to an interregnum of Muscovite sovereignty. Compare this to the Western claim, that "Ukraine should be free and democratic," an entirely void assertion without any context, merely a promise to inject capital and suck away the working age population to western urban and financial centers along with some, as we are seeing, very difficult borders to guarantee the integrity of. Neither Shapiro nor Biden will ever have the Russian sense of history where it is worth the price to take back land you consider yours. Americans have never had to defend their territory in recent historical memory. Even Hawaii and Alaska, when they were attacked in WW2, were not even states but colonial territories, not heartland, not core, merely far flung acquisitions that would be embarassing to lose but not existential. There is really no price Russia won't pay and that is their answer, unless the west is willing to up the ante and go to WW3 over something it doesn't even care about but views as a distraction between netflix binges

[Anonymous No.19980724]

>>19980633
So what is his solution?

[Anonymous No.19980725]

>>19980710
Everyone hates Iran there's no element of US society with sympathy for Iran or Iranian money like there is for Russia and Russian money

[Anonymous No.19980726]

>>19980633
Ben Shapiro is a stupid kike, and I wish we could go to war again Israel and kill people like him. I would love using their corpses for artistic purposes while contemplating over philosophical topics with my soldier brethren as we nonchalantly crush the skulls and mutilate the bodies of Jewish children and women.

[Anonymous No.19980728]

>>19980679
Ukraine as it is/was was already sold out to oligarchs. There are 200k slaves there ffs. Idk what Russia will do with it but I doubt they're going to make it worse than it was

[Anonymous No.19980733]

>>19980695
They seem wise and slavish

[Anonymous No.19980740]

>>19980725
Literally because of Jews. Honestly, if Jews were eliminated, there would be a period of global peace for at least a couple of decades. It would also fix issues of growing wealth disparity in the USA.

[Anonymous No.19980741]

The New Tsar is a pretty good Outing biography.

>>19979998

This is only partially correct. Sure, Putin stopped the West from raping Russia, but only so he and a cadre of friendly elites could rape it. The oligarchs didn't invent new technologies or reform natural resource extraction in Russia, they just pillaged the corpses of the parastatals.

[Anonymous No.19980746]

>>19980741
They didnt rape it anywhere near as hard though. Country is much better off than 25 years ago

[Anonymous No.19980748]

>>19980445
>they lost terribly in Afghanistan
>therefore they'll destroy the most powerful country in the world
Stop now. Go read Harry Potter again.

[Anonymous No.19980750]

Yeah, yeah, all of this shit about Russia is just bullshit much like Trump's fiasco with Iran. At the end of the day, the biggest issue remains Jews, both the Zionist and anti-Zionist ones. They should have been ethnically cleansed a long time ago. Hadrian had the right approach.
Jews were pretty much the architects of the modern world, being responsible for both Bolshevism and neoliberal capitalism.

[Anonymous No.19980752]

>>19980740
No, there would be a Sunni-Shiite war over the Palestinian territory. NATO would side with the Sunnis and the Russians with the Shiites; China would be neutral and offer to build a port facility with a 99 year lease for the winner.

[Anonymous No.19980756]

>>19980568
>everyone who questions the narrative is a Russian
lol
protip: when you have 100% consensus in your media you're not in a real democracy, you're in North Korea

[Anonymous No.19980758]

>>19980750
Cringe

[Anonymous No.19980759]

>>19980667
>Trump
>Strong at diplomacy
All his openings were complete faliures. He pissed off existing allies to get fuck all out of dictators he dick sucked. All he cared about was cable news drama, which is why the people he personally chose for Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense would say he was "a fucking moron," and go on record in books saying he had a toddlers attention span for non-culture war shit and a middle school understanding of geography.

>>19980679
This, lol. Euros probably would have caused it anyhow though and markets would still not like the war.

[Anonymous No.19980766]

>>19980752
>Sunni-Shiite war
Would deescalate immediately without the existence of Jews or Israel. In fact, Jews promoted its growth with the Yinon Plan.
Everything you say is surface level nonsense. With Israel destroyed and Jews reduced to an irrelevant tribe akin to Gypsies, there would be worldwide peace for a couple of decades.

[Anonymous No.19980767]

>>19980750
You'd have to take the bussypill if you want to go the Hadrian route and defeat your enemies the right way but they've ensured you won't because reasons

[Anonymous No.19980769]

>>19980758
No one care what k's like you have to say.

[Anonymous No.19980771]

>>19980766
There were plenty of Ottoman-Persian wars before the Sykes-Picot agreement. And before that the Ottomans invaded Egypt on the pretext of weeding out the Shiites. Your entirely monocausal analysis is as shallow as a bowl of soup

[Anonymous No.19980775]

>>19979480
In America the presidents sharts himself. Also I'd give America less than a 100 years

[Anonymous No.19980776]

>>19980759
There were a lot fewer problems under Trump whatever you might say and he wasnt bending over for China in trade either

[Anonymous No.19980777]

>>19980767
Hatred of Jews defines all real Caucasoid men. Once you lose that hatred, you are no longer a real man and deserve to suffer. Jews are a metaphysical abomination who could not exactly be considered human beings. The wisdom of a Caucasoid can in some sense be considered proportional to their hatred of Jews. So long as Jews remain politically relevant, there will be no peace. They pretty much control the entire world now, and every conflict that they're not the center of is fake and theatrics.

[Anonymous No.19980780]

>>19979425
Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: he Surreal Heart of the New Russia by Peter Pomerantsev
A great primer on Putin's Russia and the country's post-soviet era reinvention. It's beautifully written too.

[Anonymous No.19980781]

>>19980777
Checked

[Anonymous No.19980782]

>>19980771
>Ottoman-Persian wars
Those wars didn't have a religious dimension. They were purely motivated by geostrategic interests.
Jews feed the more ideological elements for their benefits which prevents de-escalation.
All I'm is things would greatly stabilize with the elimination of Jews.

[Anonymous No.19980786]

>>19980782
Yeah but the problem with that is that most of them ar innocent civilians

[Anonymous No.19980787]

>>19980445
lmao, this is a supremely low IQ take.

[Anonymous No.19980791]

>>19980722
>muh thousand year history
But Ukraine already existed in spite of this. Thousand years of history but they still chose independence
>void assertion
What does this mean? Russia should be free and democratic also, if you subscribe to the idea of liberal democracy. It’s not a void assertion, it’s like saying I think rape is bad therefore you shouldn’t rape people. Citizens of centralised powers don’t have any actual rights because dictators have no accountability

[Anonymous No.19980792]

>>19980633
Ge's just a kike being a kike.

[Anonymous No.19980795]

>>19980786
There is no such thing as an innocent Jew. Their very ethnic identity signals war against all gentiles. The only good Jew is one who rejects his ethnic identity or eats a bullet.

[Anonymous No.19980801]

>>19980795
There are no innocent human beings

[Anonymous No.19980810]

>>19980801
Jews are a bit worse than the average human being, which is saying a lot. If you're misanthropic, then you should realize that Jews are even worse. The very nature of the Jewish ethnic identity signals continuous warfare with gentiles and the natural world. The closest people to their mentality are Gypsies who likewise harbor deeply held myths about how all non-Gypsies, who exist outside of Romanipen collective consciousness, are beasts. Gypsies are stupid, so they are unable to attain as much power as Jews.
It is a major historical anomaly that Jews ever became geopolitically relevant.

[Anonymous No.19980817]

>>19979447
>Still thinking that books about 90s Russia, that was ruled by banksters, are relevant to modern Russia that is ruled by statesmen and intelligence officers.

[Anonymous No.19980827]

>>19980787
Russia doesn't have as much money. They're Spain with nukes and an oversized military. Or do you have some brilliant explanation otherwise?
>>19980791
I know what the democratic perspective is. What I am trying to explain is why diplomacy is largely pointless in this case. Because the Russians share so few assumptions with the West about what the purpose of the state is and what is at stake in Ukraine, they are willing to suffer very high costs as well as inflict them on others to get their way on this. Americans under thirty probably didn't even know where Ukraine is on a map before this month. And those older only know because of a Seinfeld episode

[Anonymous No.19980833]

>>19979425
Well, every century, some country decides to attack Russia, so the invading force gets buried.
USA thinks they are going to avoid Second Strike by training, arming and providing C&C to others countries, that they then try to sic on Russia while playing innocent.
So, since putting the gun on the proverbial table in 2018, and even directly saying that they were onto US bs in december, didn't work, Russia decided to dissuade the would be suicidal pawns by turning one of them into an example.

[Anonymous No.19980840]

>>19980827
The Taliban had even less resources and they won.
Americans couldn’t even beat goat herders, yet they think they can take on a country with a bigger population and nukes?
Americans haven’t been living in reality since 2016.

[Anonymous No.19980845]

>>19980777
yeah but you're a fag

[Anonymous No.19980848]

>>19980845
Anything is better than being a Jew like you.

[Anonymous No.19980852]

>>19980827
>They're Spain with nukes and an oversized military.
Russian currency is the most undervalued currency in the world, meaning that their economy is the opposite of a bubble economy that boasts huge numbers that remain mostly in the speculative stock markets and debt bubbles.

[Anonymous No.19980854]

>>19980848
You post boring rhetoric and I don't think you're actually objective about it, hence why you think I'm a jew for calling you a fag

[Anonymous No.19980856]

If you bothered to read you wouldn't be in this situation

[Anonymous No.19980868]

>>19980854
I am objective about it. Jews were never meant to wield such power, especially on this global scale, as they do now. It is better they're eliminated or forced to adopt a new ethnic identity. Jews are best exacerbating tense situations and forming parasitical networks within their host nations.

[Anonymous No.19980876]

Jesus fuck is this what this board is going to look like for the near future?

[Anonymous No.19980883]

>>19980876
>oh my heavens am I seriously actually on heckin 4chan?!?!?!
Fuck off back to wherever you came from

[Anonymous No.19980884]

>>19980840
The Americans don't have to fight the Russians, just inflict costs on them and spend enough money on deployment to initimidate the Russians and divert their attention. That is considered a victory for them, to make war so expensive that Russian expansion is limited to more or less what Putin had asked for, just now he has to pay for it instead of being given it outright. To be clear, I think Putin is going to end up with the three territories he wants. If that goes smoothly enough then potentially he sets up a puppet Ukrainian government that recognizes the new borders and fights the internationally recognized Ukrainian government, because that satisfies the land grab agenda and keeps Ukraine in a conflict preventing it from joining NATO.

[Anonymous No.19980888]

>>19980883
You think this thread is about literature?

[Anonymous No.19980890]

>>19980888
Nobody cares, go back

[Anonymous No.19980891]

>>19980852
Their per capita wealth and productivity is on par with a much smaller and resource poor country. They are underdeveloped in a lot of ways. The financial measures taken are going to hurt them but as I've said, they have different values politically and are willing to eat those costs

[Anonymous No.19980893]

>>19980890
How did you find your way to a literature board?

[Anonymous No.19980896]

>>19980884
He's not going to oust Ukraine's current government, that would mean USA gets to forgo the responsibility for milking the country dry for the last thirty years.

[Anonymous No.19980898]

>>19980883
> Oh no, someone called this objectively shit thread an objectively shit thread instead of saying I was based!
We follow the rules on this board, good sir.

[Anonymous No.19980901]

>>19980893
hide the thread and go make your own or bump another one then you weird little control freak. We both know you're going to sit here for the next two hours and whine, stop being such a dishonest faggot and just go back.

[Anonymous No.19980903]

>>19980901
nah

[Anonymous No.19980905]

>>19980901
Why are you so dead set on having every board look and operate the same way?

[Anonymous No.19980906]

>>19980898

[Anonymous No.19980910]

>>19980905
>b-but we were supposed to have won.... it's heckin /lit/ for heck's sakes....
oh no discordsisters, what do we do?

[Anonymous No.19980911]

>>19980905
You would rather criticize threads you dont like than talk about literature and you know this lol

[Anonymous No.19980915]

>>19980910
Are you a real person, anon?

[Anonymous No.19980918]

>>19980891
More like they are underdeveloped in a lot of places, which given their size and population is understandable. They have regions that are world class gems in high tech, where both Visa and Mastercard are pushed out by their own payment system, and regions that still hunt deer and live in fur huts.

[Anonymous No.19980920]

>>19980915
Why aren't you off posting about literature? Isn't that why you're here?

[Anonymous No.19980922]

>>19980911
Answer the question.

[Anonymous No.19980924]

>>19980901
Nah, easier to just bump it to its limit with unrelated shit.
Here, this is a good book to understand current Russia.

[Anonymous No.19980925]

>>19979493
Based

[Anonymous No.19980928]

>>19980920
No, but seemingly neither are you

[Anonymous No.19980930]

>>19980924
>>19980928
So you're just here to whine that a thread you don't like exists? How curious

[Anonymous No.19980932]

[Anonymous No.19980935]

>>19980930
Yup, by the way, here's another great one.

[Anonymous No.19980939]

>>19980924
>>19980932
spamming is against the rules. I thought you totally epic sincerely cared about the rules anon?

[Anonymous No.19980941]

>>19980930
I'm here to whine about you excusing it instead of acknowledging it as the shit it is

[Anonymous No.19980945]

>>19980939
what

[Anonymous No.19980948]

>>19980941
So you don't actually care about discussing literature and are going to spend portions of your day whining something you don't like is allowed to exist and trying to prevent people from talking? That's pretty strange anon. Why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.19980955]

>>19980945
>HUH?
>What do you mean?
>Could you clarify?
>I don't quite understand
just say "I'm jewish"

[Anonymous No.19980958]

>>19980948
So you don't actually care about discussing literature and are going to spend portions of your day defending a thread that is obviously off-topic? That's pretty strange anon. Why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.19980959]

>>19980939
Oh no, I am being perfectly earnest here. You earnestly asked for books that would help you understand Russia, and I am quite simply obliging the spirit of your necessity.
This should really help you understand Poutine's psychology, btw.

[Anonymous No.19980962]

>>19980941
It's going to be totally ineffectual because more threads will just be made until the happening passes but you can do what you want

[Anonymous No.19980963]

>>19980955
>just say "I'm jewish"
Fucking owned. Epic! Epic for the win!

[Anonymous No.19980968]

>>19980659
hitler didn't have nukes retard

[Anonymous No.19980972]

>>19980962
Thanks

[Anonymous No.19980973]

>>19980226
0.000000000000001 BTC has been deposited into your account

[Anonymous No.19980979]

>>19980963
OY FUCKING VEY

[Anonymous No.19980982]

>>19980979
pure pwnage

[Anonymous No.19980984]

>>19980787
He's pretty much correct though. What is a country 1/7th the side with a rapidly shrinking, aging population (average 40 years) going to do to an economic bloc with 7 times as many people and an economy 15 times as large to churn out resources?

Russia committed heavily in Syria and wasn't able to get a decisive victory despite the US and Turkey pounding ISIS for them. That's with super lose rules of engagement, not the state building goals the US had.

By contrast, the US overthrew Saddam, who had one of the largest, most well equiped militaries in the world, easily despite supply lines stretching across the globe.

Russia is opaque about losses, but even low end estimates have them losing twice as many men in the much shorter conflict in Chechnya than the US did in 20 years of Iraq and Afghanistan combined, this despite fighting a vastly smaller and less well armed opponent within their own borders.

The vaunted area denial capabilities of Russian systems has yet to be fully tested, but so far the S-300 has been most important in downing a civilian airliner, while Israel can obviously still bomb with impunity in Syria without Russia getting prior warning off to targets.

[Anonymous No.19980985]

Kek

[Anonymous No.19980988]

>>19980958
Because I don't care about increasingly strict no fun interpretations of MUH rules insisted upon by interlopers who don't actually like using 4chan and are just mad there's somewhere people are allowed to dare disagree with them. Shouldn't you be off insisting marxism isn't political or something?

[Anonymous No.19980992]

>>19980226
Ride the tiger with Putin.

[Anonymous No.19980994]

>>19980935
Man I miss when cover art was actually good instead of hyperminimalist with weird fonts.

[Anonymous No.19980996]

>>19980988
>2012+10
>go on /lit/
>get callled a newfriend for saying an off-topic thread is off-topic

[Anonymous No.19980999]

>>19980996
ISHYGDDTS is from 2011 and nobody cares about you being an autistic little control freak from reddit. Maybe go try not to get banned on /a/

[Anonymous No.19981006]

>>19980996
ROASTIE ROASTIE REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.19981018]

>>19980999
>ISHYGDDTS is from 2011
>year of our lord 2030-8
>thinks the date needs to start at shiggy's "release year"
>thinks anons didn't use it after 2011
>obsessed about reddit and making excuses for off-topic thread instead of accepting it as shit and continuing to participate regardless
I cannot imagine anyone but newfags putting this much reverence into this retarded place

[Anonymous No.19981041]

>>19981018
>get btfo for saying 2012+x
>cry for 6 lines

[Anonymous No.19981043]

>>19980226
Feels fine, given that Russian military recently built their main church as a remembrance of its millenium long history of defending the nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KOCkjEjFhw

[Anonymous No.19981044]

>>19979981
Im American and don't even like McCain, used to as an Objectivist though

[Anonymous No.19981045]

>>19981041
no u

[Anonymous No.19981050]

>>19981018
>and continuing to participate regardless
You're still in here bumping the thread instead of off discussing literature, which you care so dearly about. Exactly as predicted. In fact you care so deeply about discussing literature you've hung out in this thread for nearly an hour. Genuinely, who do you think you're fooling?

[Anonymous No.19981058]

>>19981050
You don't get it. I participate in many off-topic threads, but I sure as shit don't go around acting outraged when people call the threads for what they are

[Anonymous No.19981065]

>>19981058
>OUTRAGED
>SEETHING
>LE TANTRUM
>LITERALLY CRYING
ironic considering you've been whining the thread exists for an hour. I'm listening to Charlie Parker. Do you like jazz?

[Anonymous No.19981085]

>>19979640
>Unfortunately they haven't learned how to feed their own people yet despite all the money they get from China
By your own logic, this is probably intentional.

[Anonymous No.19981095]

>>19981065
>ironic considering you've been whining the thread exists for an hour.
That's not ironic. I never claimed not to be whining. I'm not arguing that you shouldn't whine, I'm calling you an asshole for pretending like calling out an off-topic is somehow "wrong" to do. This literally is an off-topic thread. This thread is in the wrong place, and saying that isn't being a stickler for the rules

[Anonymous No.19981097]

>>19981095
nobody cares. What are your thoughts on charlie parker?

[Anonymous No.19981098]

>>19980350
Sexism isn't real. Women are supposed to serve men or shit like this happens

[Anonymous No.19981103]

>>19980984
>By contrast, the US overthrew Saddam, who had one of the largest, most well equiped militaries in the world
It’s been I don’t know how many decades and you still believe the republican guard meme?

[Anonymous No.19981108]

>>19981097
He's dead

[Anonymous No.19981114]

>>19981108
How shallow and pedantic

[Anonymous No.19981116]

>>19981114
But true

[Anonymous No.19981126]

>>19981116
I've moved on. This female bass player is pretty solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xKvHANqjk
This Japanese dude makes some sick stuff too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNig6xG36i4

[Anonymous No.19981137]

>>19980984
>Russia committed heavily in Syria and wasn't able to get a decisive victory despite the US and Turkey pounding ISIS for them.
stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.19981154]

>>19981116
Baby baby please mr chad here doesn't listen to music.

[Anonymous No.19981169]

Russia is just rejecting what the west is doing. The West practically invaded Ukraine in 2014 yet no sanctions were placed on the US. This is just Putin fighting fire with fire

[Anonymous No.19981181]

>>19981154
Not even the cocteau twins?!?!

[Anonymous No.19981186]

>>19980288
lolol good one

[Anonymous No.19981192]

>>19981181
Cocteau twins are selling big soda and gambling mr chad has renounced all music.

[Anonymous No.19981196]

I just don't get it, why does Putin care so much about a land grab and gaining a couple million more people. Just doesn't seem worth it. What does he gain from this

[Anonymous No.19981210]

>>19981192
>Cocteau twins are selling big soda and gambling
lmfao

[Anonymous No.19981236]

>>19981210
I see life as an adventure capitalist, you got to invest you might have heard your brain stops developing after 25 but its a lie you change into long term planning decision making. But carnivore diet increased my hormone production so I'm like an old man. I learnt this from quora.

[Anonymous No.19981237]

>>19979425
The Qur'an. Nothing Putin is doing to Ukraine is any different from what Mudslimes are doing to Yurop.

[Anonymous No.19981240]

>>19981196
Psychopaths have poor impulse control and low IQ that makes it difficult to do cost-benefit analyses of their actions.
More or less every politician is on the psychopath spectrum.
He is literally just retarded.

[Anonymous No.19981256]

>>19981240
Maybe poor impulse control but I kind of doubt him and all his advisors are "low IQ". Must be some kind of reason.

[Anonymous No.19981293]

>>19979480
America is very clearly in the
>buckle due to internal stress
stage of decline, with a lot of signs of fragmentation. But that could easily go on for quite some time, like it has for plenty of other empires.

[Anonymous No.19981294]

>>19979425
"Foundations of Geopolitics" by Aleksandr Dugin.

[Anonymous No.19981329]

Defending himself against the degenerate west

[Anonymous No.19981332]

>>19980722
Good post, a lot of people in the west fundamentally cannot understand putins worldview. While the western countries turned into giant nursing homes meant to make its aging population as comfortable as possible by any means (importing millions of foreigners and corrosive american culture), russia is still acting like the countries of past era, not caring so much about its short-term citizen material wellbeing but long term geo-political goals.

[Anonymous No.19981340]

>>19981332
Importing foreigners is not done to make boomers comfy lol. It's to depress worker leverage and shore up Dnc political power

[Anonymous No.19981347]

>>19980659
>just go die in some shithole for a country that actively works against your nation in the interest of making transnational elite rich
No, I dont think I will

[Anonymous No.19981349]

the moral of the story is never ever give up your nuclear weapons

[Anonymous No.19981367]

>>19981340
The American lifestyle would not be possible without importing labor. You'd actually need to take care of your parents and/or put most elderly people in some form of public housing without immigration. There would also be a severe shortage of hospital staff and assisted living care. Most population growth has been immigrants and their children since restrictions were lifted in the 1960s. Among other things, the ratio of workers to retirees depends on this, and even with it social security is still projected to be underfunded. People who will be hitting retirement age the next few years were the last people born under the immigration quotas, and ironically, their parents have spent the payroll taxes from lifting those already.

[Anonymous No.19981381]

>>19981367
>grrr I hate white people >:(
boomers should be left to die in the streets. The amount of money stolen from younger generations and transferred to insurance and pharmacuetical companies to keep the worst generation who ever lived alive until they are 110 years old needs to end, and indeed probably will due to not being sustainable.

[Anonymous No.19981392]

>>19980445
>Twenty years in Afghanistan without achieving a single objective

That does not mean they can do it again.

[Anonymous No.19981395]

>>19980876
Anon the board was antisemitic before the eternal election. On the topic of literature found the pdf of >>19980141. Since the people Klebnikov interviewed often lied, does the author point it out or does he expect you to pick it up from context.
>>19980226
Your based leader operated in a commie shithole just as much as he operated in a capitalist shithole. Do you have any central beliefs outside triggering the libs?

[Anonymous No.19981400]

>>19980984
>Russia committed heavily in Syria and wasn't able to get a decisive victory

Assad is still in power, the rebels have no chance of winning, and their is zero appetite in the West to even bother trying to do regime change anymore outside of empty show talk. That's pretty decisive. Russia won.

[Anonymous No.19981402]

>>19979480
you are sharting yourelves right now bro.

[Anonymous No.19981407]

>>19981381
Boomers are whiter than you though so now who hates who exactly?

[Anonymous No.19981415]

>>19981392
Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan... now, Ukraine is probably off the table, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think another country is destined for at least five years of US military occupation by 2040

[Anonymous No.19981417]

>>19981407
>steal all the wealth from every future generation and justify importing millions of people of shit to prop it up when they can't afford houses and families
>b-but these 75 years olds are whiter than younger generations
you're so smart dude, I bet you're completely genuine as well!

[Anonymous No.19981418]

>Impying GDP as anything to do with military capabilities

[Anonymous No.19981419]

Don't believe what the Western media tells you, Ukrainians WANT to be part of Russia but can't join because of the authoritarian globalist agenda of NATO and the US. Russia is simply defending its own people.

[Anonymous No.19981427]

>>19981347
Thats what I said retard

[Anonymous No.19981431]

>>19981294
This is the actual answer.
Though I don't believe it ever got translations.

[Anonymous No.19981449]

>>19981294
>Dugin
Not buying the mysticism that charlatan is selling

[Anonymous No.19981458]

>>19981419
many of the russian speaking ones in the east do many of the ukrainian speaking ones in the west do not simple as

[Anonymous No.19981472]

>>19981419
>God shining a beam of light onto the tanks.
Glorious. We all know whose side He is on.

[Anonymous No.19981477]

>>19981417
I am literally describing America to you. The less diverse generation imported the parents of the more diverse one. Something similar happened when slavery was a thing, and it's happened again and it is continuing to happen. Has nothing to do with my value judgments (which you are entirely assuming) what the facts are or aren't. And the fact is, boomers are less diverse than you zoomers, and the tail end of social security they are going to slurp up was funded by the payroll taxes of immigrants and their descendents who contributed the most population growth since the 1960s. You not liking this doesn't make it any less true.

[Anonymous No.19981488]

>>19981477
>grr I hate white people >:(
we know

[Anonymous No.19981495]

>>19981488
meds

[Anonymous No.19981496]

>>19981427
Not seeing the part where thats my problem

[Anonymous No.19981500]

>>19981495
>I'm also jewish
what a surprise

[Anonymous No.19981509]

>>19981488
You hate boomers so you quantitatively must hate them more than you imagine me to.

[Anonymous No.19981512]

>>19981500
Daddy Putin isn't going to like your anti-semitism bro

[Anonymous No.19981513]

>>19981509
You're just repeating what I already responded to because you're a disgusting smug jew

[Anonymous No.19981520]

>>19981512
I don't care what someone on the other side of the planet thinks or does. Take it up with him yourself

[Anonymous No.19981530]

>>19981513
Sounds like someone needs a Russian tank column shoved in his peninsula

[Anonymous No.19981542]

>>19981530
that's cool and all bro but smugposting on 4chan isn't going to institute the draft to go fight for the sanctity of ukraines borders (which would normally be racist but look it's important)

[Anonymous No.19981554]

>>19981542
That's a good point, it's quite racist to privilege the war in Ukraine over the war in Africa

[Anonymous No.19981578]

>>19981554
>the war in Ukraine
this quite literally does not exist

[Anonymous No.19981642]

>>19979425

[Anonymous No.19981714]

>>19981196
It isn't about being worth it. After the destruction of the '90s Russia was never allowed to properly integrate into the international economic order. Because of the constant pressure they simply can't allow themselves to mistreat and plunder those neighbouring nations which don't surrender themselves completely to the West. Look at how their main partner in this conflict is Lukashenko's Belarus where state ownership was mostly maintained and there are no oligarchs. Someone like Putin who was only supposed to continue the "work" of Yeltsin at first should be a natural enemy of him (one of the reasons why a union state between Belarus and Russia never came to be is because of the fear that Lukashenko would win the elections). Russia can not be imperalist because even further international isolation would destroy the country and this is true regardless of Putin's hot takes about Russian history.

Russia still lives in the shadow of the USSR. It has barely improved its economy since Soviet collapse, but it still retains a strong military. It only comes as natural that Russia can only defend itself through military means under immense Western pressure.

[Anonymous No.19981737]

>>19981714
>After the destruction of the '90s Russia was never allowed to properly integrate into the international economic order
Can you talk more on this point

[Anonymous No.19981966]

>>19979480
kek you wish fatty

[Anonymous No.19982094]

>>19980120
>Karl Marx was German and communism is a German idea
>Marx
>German
>Communism
>German idea
Post nose faggot.

[Anonymous No.19982099]

>>19980270
Killing your infidel degenerate neighbors in a holy war is a very Christian thing to do.

[Anonymous No.19982180]

>>19979447
>Russia without Putin: Power, Politics and the Making of Post-Soviet Society
Going by the title I just assumed this was random academic bullshit pumped out to meet some quota, but it sounds pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.19982193]

>>19979925
lol

[Anonymous No.19982220]

>>19980659
>Nobody in the West cares enough about anything anymore to fight a war for it.
And here's why that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.19982240]

>>19981418
Do you have the cropped NATOjak?

[Anonymous No.19982248]

>>19981477
>the payroll taxes of immigrants and their descendents who contributed the most population growth since the 1960s.
Population growth =/ taxes paid. White, middle class people still pay the most taxes, not Mexican janitors.

[Anonymous No.19982260]

>>19982099
Yes Jesus said he was coming with a sword. Not you which is why he reprimanded his apostle for drawing his sword and why there are places in the bible that basically say dont do anything for the vengeance is his

[Anonymous No.19982265]

>>19980771
This is what Wikipedia does to your brain

[Anonymous No.19982403]

>>19980968
Literally no one here knows anything about what they’re talking about, it’s fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.19982452]

>>19980643
>What is his endgame?
Well at the risk of psychoanalyzing, the consensus is Putin doesn't think in 'endgames', he's an opportunist and while obviously this current 'special military operation' as he calls the invasion has been some time in the making it's unlikely to be part of some intricate Rube Goldberg machine where he's lining up the dominoes one by one.
Putin's own rhetoric is that he's been backed into a corner and 'forced' to do it: obviously if he took the constant Eastward expansion of NATO and the EU lying down, eventually it would be at his doorstep.
I always look at things from an economic lens: the U.S. Navy exists only to allow American companies safe export channels across the world. The recent Australian submarine deal was about outsourcing some of that work to Australia, and getting them to pay for the privilege.
>>19980226
I don't think you can bureaucratically consider 'Orthodox' a single thing anymore, not that they ever were. They just had a new Schism, the Ukrainian Orthodox church is now under the authority of the Ecumenical Patriarch (I think he's pretty much the Greek Orthodox kingpin) while the Moscow/Russian Patriarch has gone rogue.

[Anonymous No.19982499]

>>19982265
I suppose you have some dumbass ideological reason for not believing religion plays a role in middle eastern wars.

[Anonymous No.19982666]

>>19979640
I don’t follow geopolitics, why is NK that important to China? It’s not that big for a buffer state. If the US wanted to invade China, I don’t think North Korea existing or not would matter much.

[Anonymous No.19982672]

>>19981737
some of the videos posted in this thread cover that

[Anonymous No.19982685]

>>19979493
>collapsing shit hole of a country.
shithole is one word

[Anonymous No.19982690]

>>19979480
>make america great again

[Anonymous No.19982700]

>>19980659
>You think Britain would have let off Hitler's Germany with "sanctions"?
Wasn't the whole start of Hitler's Germany to do with the Versailles treaty? Britain and France created Hitler through that.

[Anonymous No.19982712]

>>19980659
>You think Britain would have let off Hitler's Germany with "sanctions"?
Hey faggot, did Hitler's Germany have nuclear weapon stockpiles?

[Anonymous No.19982754]

>>19980648
>>19980633
chicken hawk ((((NEOCON)))) SCUM

[Anonymous No.19982785]

>>19979956
better than communists pretending to be a republic.

[Anonymous No.19982815]

>russia going to fail to take ukraine
>extreme sanctions across the entire western world
>russia becomes completely dependent on china
>china takes over russia and ukraine

[Anonymous No.19982848]

>>19980132
>Only a Russian is dumb enough to trust a Jew, kek

The course of history would be totally different. Oh if this were only true.

[Anonymous No.19982867]

Is this what Baudrillard was talking about?

[Anonymous No.19982871]

>>19982815
Russia isn't effected by Sanctions. They are self sufficient.

[Anonymous No.19982872]

>>19980568

[Anonymous No.19982873]

>>19979484
rent free

[Anonymous No.19982879]

>>19979660
>>19981294
Dugin is awful

[Anonymous No.19982880]

>>19981472
i think thats a helicopter

[Anonymous No.19982881]

>>19980984
Lol

Did John McCain's rotting corpse rise from the grave to type out this shit?

[Anonymous No.19982888]

>>19980827
>They're Spain

If Spain was the world's 2nd largest LNG producer and 3rd largest oil producer

And if Spain had pipelines supplying most of Western Europe with it's energy

[Anonymous No.19982896]

uuuhhhhhhhhh
bros?

[Anonymous No.19982905]

>>19982871
>Russia isn't effected by Sanctions. They are self sufficient.
so are homeless people

[Anonymous No.19982906]

>>19982905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ftkn0sDnCg

[Anonymous No.19982916]

>>19982888
Their per capita wealth and productivity are garbage for a supposed great power. Putin has basically optimized the hand he is dealt since Russia doesn't have the money and resources the west has. He has to win very quickly, and it does look like he will, since the US doesn't actually care enough to stop him. But the point is that the US has enough resources to run a pointless military occupation for twenty years on the other side of the planet, something Russia cannot match. The Russian victory depends almost exclusively on US inaction, because it costs more to eject Russia from Ukraine than it does to allow it to nibble on neighbors it controlled as recently as a few weeks ago as far as historical time is concerned.

[Anonymous No.19982925]

>>19982896
wtf I love globohomo now??

[Anonymous No.19982947]

>>19982867
Jesus Christ exterminate the rat race known as"journalists"

[Anonymous No.19982965]

>>19982906
>links 5 minute youtube video
>muh war chest, the ultimate short term solution
>ruble still at record lows against the dollar as we speak which they certainly learned from last time
well done anon. he conveniently forgot to mention that the russian economy largely depends on china (guess who's going to bail them out when it all comes crumbling down?), and that no sector of russia's economy is thriving. again, you can say the same thing about homeless people, or retired old people that have a bank account and an RV. it simply doesn't matter. All the territory Russia takes right now is Chinas

[Anonymous No.19982978]

>>19979956
YOu're either ignorant a Ruskie or a Jew if you think they are just straight Nazi's. They hate Russia for a reason, both for HOLODMR AND FOR THE TSAR

[Anonymous No.19982990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2_xW6bObE

[Anonymous No.19983255]

>>19979425
Masha Gessen anyone?

[Anonymous No.19983264]

>>19979425
Ignore retards, just download a good heavy 800something something page copy of A History of Russia, by Riasanovsky from libgen for a well rounded understanding of russia.

[Anonymous No.19983293]

so what happens if russia fails to take ukraine? is it all ogre?

[Anonymous No.19983365]

>>19979640
Mearsheimer?

[Anonymous No.19983369]

>>19979447
>Russia without Putin: Power, Politics and the Making of Post-Soviet Society

also recommend this, author has a sensible view of the real political power structures in russia and doesn't fall for any petty psychologising

[Anonymous No.19983370]

>>19983365
don't answer - I just read further down.

[Anonymous No.19983374]

>>19983293
A new Polish world order

[Anonymous No.19983422]

>>19979640
>Unfortunately they haven't learned how to feed their own people yet despite all the money they get from China

selectorate theory has an answer for this: a leader needs only enough money to pay off their essential supporters. north korean elites are fantastically rich compared to the average citizen in their country - this is because the kim family have figured out to give lavish material benefits to the people who keep them in power. the average person is unessential and can starve. blackpilled but it makes sense to me at least.

[Anonymous No.19983618]

>>19979493
I don't know. The world has seen enough killing. The last thing we need is another war.

[Anonymous No.19983622]

>>19983293
Probably not. It's not like Ukraine will launch a counter invasion and it's seem very rash and unwise for the U.S and other countries to invade it. Putin may lose some influence and I could see him getting replaced by another guy down the line.

[Anonymous No.19983713]

[Anonymous No.19983848]

>>19979453
Putin had literally stated in his 1 hour long appeal to the Russian nation that he offered Bill Clinton to join the NATO in 2000 and Clinton bluntly refused to even entertain the idea

[Anonymous No.19983855]

>>19979479
Doesn't really fit the history of any empire I can think of. Not the British one, or the Roman one, or the Spanish one.

[Anonymous No.19983858]

>>19979447
Are there any other actual BOOK RECS in this thread or is the first post the only one that actually answers the OPs question?

[Anonymous No.19983865]

>>19981196
No one can really say. You could say it's geopolitical concerns, the US and NATO said they wouldn't seek to expand into the eastern block when the USSR was falling apart and so far that's been utterly wrong. The US has continually antagonized Russia (not that Russia doesn't also antagonized the west), intervened in countries which Russia perceives to be in its sphere of influence (Georgia and Syria), and has shown clearly that it has no problems toppling governments it opposes (Iraq, Libya). It's not unreasonable that Putin would be concerned about maintaining his own power but also the future of Russia. Putin won't be around forever, so what if NATO does eventually extend into Ukraine, after he's gone? It makes sense to finish what he started in 2014. And now is literally the best opportunity possible. The US practically ignored the conflict in Armenia because of election drama, the US is low from defeat in Afghanistan, and Biden might be one of the weakest, most ineffectual presidents, at least outwardly. So if his initial plan in 2014 was annexation, this is the time to do it.

Another interpretation is that Russia is a fundamentally new state. The Russian empire only had like 55% proper ethnic Russian population, the USSR less and was even more culturally mixed. The modern Russian federation has like 90% Russian population and it has, at least outwardly, expressed concern over ethnic russian minorities in other states. The Baltics always had this issue with their Russian minorities wanting change and whatnot, though they've had less issues with Russian state intervention due to ties with EU and NATO. Ukraine has a sizeable Russian population and its borders are from the old Soviet system which had no real use for borders and drew them nearly arbitrarily. Russia may have an interest in redrawing them and war is the only way to work this out. I doubt Russia will annex all of Ukraine, I don't think there's even been a clear intent of the war from the Kremlin aside from weakening Ukraine and testing the west.

[Anonymous No.19983866]

>>19983858
how new are you

[Anonymous No.19983867]

>>19983365
it became obvious after that part about not giving up the nukes.

had no idea he does podcasts now though, lol

[Anonymous No.19983873]

>>19983866
very new, I think I only started in 2009 or 2010, and even that was on KC's int board

[Anonymous No.19984044]

YOU ARE ALL FUCKING RETARDED AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GEOPOLITICS

[Anonymous No.19984154]

>>19980659

[Anonymous No.19984200]

>>19979425
the left behind series

[Anonymous No.19984353]

>>19980856
>only good post
>gets ignored

[Anonymous No.19984355]

>>19980659
>>19980659
>You think Britain would have let off Hitler's Germany with "sanctions"?
Lol. They did you dumb fuck, until they got invaded.

[Anonymous No.19984358]

>>19980746
>Country is much better off than 25 years ago
Everywhere is better off than 25 years ago due to global US shipping hegemony and cheap manufacturing from China anon. Russian oligarchs didn't do shit to make Russia better. They even fucked up when Obama actually convinced Europe to ditch 30% of their energy purchases from russia and switch to US/Saudi oil. Or did you not notice hte uptick in Russian interference in the middle east post 2015?

[Anonymous No.19984603]

>>19979425
The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997) is one of the major works of Zbigniew Brzezinski.

[Anonymous No.19985232]

>>19982978
*were
*hated

[Anonymous No.19985947]

>>19979425
The Tragedy of Great Power Politics