Guilty Pleasure: Ancien Civilization Edition

[Anonymous No.19974234]

Post authors and books which dwell into topics like global flood myths and knowhow exchange, under water archeology, cyclic cataclysms and related topics (without naming Hancock, that is).

[Anonymous No.19974263]

>>19974234
David Childress
Zecharia Sitchin

[Anonymous No.19974345]

>Gobekli Tepe
Heh, I was just reading about that in Hito Steyerl’s book (Duty Free Art)

[Anonymous No.19974373]

>>19974345
>>19974234
ok. what does göbekli tepe actually change though? I read the entire wiki and couldn’t find it “changing” any narrative.

[Anonymous No.19974378]

>>19974234
Graham Hancock

[Anonymous No.19974388]

>>19974373
From what I know it challenges when humans became city builders and stopped being nomadic so also means all those things required to support cities were also being done earlier than believed. But given the names in this thread I am probably way off and they are referring to some /x/ thing.

[Anonymous No.19974396]

>>19974234
this book kicks ass

[Anonymous No.19974406]

>>19974373
Nomadic peoples apparently built this shit before agriculture was even established, and such a structure implies previous experience building such structures

[Anonymous No.19974438]

>>19974388
>>19974406
Yeah, but nomadic people had places of ritual they would come back to. It doesn't mean that they stopped being nomadic.

[Anonymous No.19974458]

>>19974373
Only the newest layer of GT has been opened and dated, Schmidt himself said that it wouldn't surprise him if the oldest structures would be more ike 28.000 years old. Meanwhile modern archeology claims that humans basically live in caves at this point in time, despite current findings showing that our body an brain has been modern for over 300.000 years. But officially we only started getting civilized for some 9000 years all of the sudden. Native myths and folklore tell anoher story, as do many findings like the egyptian labyrinth will as well has been pre-dated at over 26000 years, before egypt literally forbad the international researching team from a normie university to publish the findings or closed of the area. Hoping that it will gt destroyed by rising saltwater levels.

Those are all facts an nothing of it is /X/ related.

[Anonymous No.19974462]

>>19974438
The official mantra is that nomadic people ouldn't built shit like that because hat would take away too much time which nomadic people need to secure food. For such structures officially people need higher societies and specialization as to allow a certain amount of people to get autistic with stones without starving their families to death.

[Anonymous No.19974469]

>>19974396
Quick run down? I just bought Ancient egypt 39,000BCE. Very promissing without any ancient aliens nonsense.

[Anonymous No.19974483]

>>19974458
yes, I saw that only a small percentage of it has been excavated. Why wouldn’t there be greater effort to excavate the oldest elements if they do hold so much revolutionary potential though?

[Anonymous No.19974490]

>>19974462
I think that's just underestimating people. People are stubborn as hell.

[Anonymous No.19974495]

This is interesting and all, but what would Hegel make of this?

[Anonymous No.19974506]

Who excavated and described Göbekli Tepe? Oh right an archaeologist.

[Anonymous No.19974509]

>>19974373
Traditional models of civilisational development used to assume that monumental architecture implies some sort of centralised political authority to coordinate labour and resources. Gobekli Tepe was built by hunter-gatherer bands, or at best by incipient agriculturalists; and so suggests that people were organising labour for shared ritual purposes long before the development of any kind of state structure.

[Anonymous No.19974527]

>>19974483
Money and international red tape (money).

[Anonymous No.19974532]

>>19974483
Well, first of you eveer want to dig everything out at once, as science progresses our methods become less destructive and the information we can get out of it more rich in details. Once we dig it out, everything in that earth covering it will be gone.

And in this case, well, funding and the obvious and international unwillingness to rewrite history. ame stuff happens in egypt an other sites which seem to fuck up the timline.

Last but not least religion and ieology plays a role as well. Neer findings might fuck up the interpretations and the powers that be aren't interested in that.

Personally, it might be for the best before they end up like the winged bulls.

[Anonymous No.19974538]

>>19974506
Yes, and Klaus Schmidt himself said that. Sadly h passed before concluing his work, but his book on GT is very informative. Btw Hancock and Schmity were BBFs in that regard. Might surprise some professional academia-workshippers.

[Anonymous No.19974549]

>>19974532
>dat spacing
Good god, I should stop posting while between doors.

[Anonymous No.19975223]

[Anonymous No.19975304]

>>19974388
>>19974438
It’s likely that humans went back and forth, weighing the pros and cons

[Anonymous No.19975492]

>>19975304
Oh sure. I'd think that where the people lived and the climate there would heavily influence the choice to settle down too.

[Anonymous No.19975646]

>>19974234
Gobekli Tepe is peak Reddit

[Anonymous No.19975736]

>>19975646
Why?

[Anonymous No.19975744]

>>19975646
if you can’t write Göbekli you are in no position to call anything else plebbit

[Anonymous No.19975804]

>>19974458
meds

[Anonymous No.19976036]

[Anonymous No.19976082]

>>19976036
Meh, so what's it about? German cyclical genetic suicides?

[Anonymous No.19976117]

>>19974462
>because hat would take away too much time which nomadic people need to secure food
Nomads had plenty of leisure time, no? As much as we did, if not more.

[Anonymous No.19976135]

>>19976082
Maybe anon just wanted to say that this thread is golden

[Anonymous No.19976147]

>>19974495
400000 words of absolute nonsense

[Anonymous No.19976163]

>>19976147
heh

[Anonymous No.19976174]

>>19976117
>Nomads had plenty of leisure time, no?
not really
try going into the wild and find food

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism

[Anonymous No.19976180]

>Meh, so what's it about? German cyclical genetic suicides?

[Anonymous No.19976199]

Conan is real
many aren't ready for this

[Anonymous No.19976288]

>>19976180
That was a serious question, Schwuchtel.

[Anonymous No.19976529]

>>19976082
Many things relevant to the OP. Atlantis, Hyperborea, Agartha etc

[Anonymous No.19976550]

>>19976529
>Hyperborea
didn't this rabbit-hole end up in hollow earth theories? lol

[Anonymous No.19976567]

>>19976550
Agartha is hollow earth, Hyperborea is the ancient polar kingdom(sometimes though to have been warmed by Saturn when it existed directly above the north pole close to earth)

[Anonymous No.19976583]

>>19976550
Maybe read this (and >>19975223) instead, it's more objective

[Anonymous No.19976606]

>>19974469
its one of the halmark books studying mesopotamian religion, going over the subtle changes from the fourth millenium up to the first millenium BCE,
its analysing a lot of actual poetry, rites and myths from that time and explaining the evolution in its conceptions of the divine.
i really like how he doesnt just treat these documents as archeological evidence, but analyses them fully, as you would actual poetry and art.
its very beautiful, profound, and gives some good insights into the origins of religion in general.

[Anonymous No.19976632]

>>19976606
based. gonna order it. thanks for the rec.